comment by San Miguel (U1449)
posted 4 minutes ago
Liking the sound of that
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Same. My thought is that even if it doesn't work out of Ole on the pitch, I can only see him improving the squad for the long term.
Let’s hope he shies away from superstar types and builds with young hungry and talented players, who want to play for the badge. I think ole will try and go down that route.
waste of time buying overpriced galactico superstar type players as they only seem to think that they should be playing for Real Madrid at the end of the day. A half of them aren't as good as they think they are. Look at Pogba. Get rid I say.
It’s not as easy as saying galactico types are bad and young and hungry are good
It’s about identifying which ones are the right ones and which ones are the wrong ones. Whatever category they come from. Robben for example would have been a great signing from Real had we gone for him. As would ‘overpriced’ at the time players like Van Dijk.
Even someone like Bale could be a great signing under the right circumstances. If it’s a choice between getting him or going with Lingard/Mata on the right next season then it’s Bale all day long
Even someone like Bale could be a great signing under the right circumstances. If it’s a choice between getting him or going with Lingard/Mata on the right next season then it’s Bale all day long
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Agree to a point, he would indeed be better than Lingard and Mata, however, at what cost. I wouldn't want to be spending big on Bale as there are major question marks around his fitness. I also think that here are younger prospect across Europe that may have an element of uncertainty around being successful at a massive club like United but worth the chance on the right wing.
At this point I’m not sure cost is of the hugest concern
Say for example Bale costs £100 million and with careful management we get two good seasons out of him and him being at the club gives us balance in our attack and we get back into the CL and get us back challenging and that in itself leads to some momentum for us after he leaves then it’s a good signing.
Alternatively we could save money and spend £50 million on a lesser known player and that guy doesn’t do any better than Lingard/Mata and we’re still 6th place with Wolves hot on our heels over the next few seasons.
For Ole’s sake I hope he identifies the exact 4/5 players he wants/needs and the management get him what he asks for because while I doubt Ole is the guy to get us to where we needs to be at the very least he seems to be an intelligent guy who knows what the problems are. He seems to be a fan like us who can see what needs doing. And our entire right side is a bit of a joke
comment by Robb Ferguson (U21234)
posted 1 hour, 4 minutes ago
It’s not as easy as saying galactico types are bad and young and hungry are good
It’s about identifying which ones are the right ones and which ones are the wrong ones. Whatever category they come from. Robben for example would have been a great signing from Real had we gone for him. As would ‘overpriced’ at the time players like Van Dijk.
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True, but we’ve had a poor turnout with galictico types, so let’s avoid.
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What I want to know is: where's our sodding Director of Football they promised us?
What are our academy prospects like at RB/RW. I refuse to believe there’s not better than Young in our youth set up..
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comment by Red Russian (U4715)
posted 51 seconds ago
What I want to know is: where's our sodding Director of Football they promised us?
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We’re after the guy at Leipzig.
Good post Robb, though reading up on Ole's history on the BBC I do think he has a good chance of being the man.
Personally I would not go for Bale, he's turned us down in the past, I don't want revenge by the way, but he shows we would be the next best thing after Real, not that he was buying into Ole's project.
I don't know enough about foreign players, how good they are, values etc, but it is vital at least 75% are successful, you won't get them all right, but three out of four would be good.
Read somewhere that we had cooled interest in the Palace RB and turned to Meunier (spl). Makes moe sense to allow Dalot to develop imo
comment by United we win (U19958)
posted 35 minutes ago
Bale would be a horrid signing. He’d spend half the time in the injury room
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Aye, we should be going after young, energetic players who will play for the shirt and not ageing expensive galactico types.
“Ooh, what about Gareth Bale?”
comment by Red Russian (U4715)
posted 36 minutes ago
What I want to know is: where's our sodding Director of Football they promised us?
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Assistant Bean Counter to step up to Head Bean Counter.
Current Head Bean Counter to step up to DOF role.
Step forward Ed Woodward, Vice Chairman, CEO and DOF.
Bale looks like a risk from several points of view:
- Does he see playing for United as a big deal (after spurning our advances 2 or 3 times)?
- How much time will he be injured?
- As a player who has relied on athleticism more than finesse, will he be past his best?
- As a player who has won trophies most players can only dream of, is he hungry, does he still have dreams to pursue?
Bale is probably a signing 2 or 3 years too late.
Have to give him a miss now.
Don't think he'll fit the profile of what OGS will want this summer anyway.
Younger, fitter, hungrier players. Maybe even domestic based.
comment by The Lambeau Leap (U21050)
posted 56 minutes ago
What are our academy prospects like at RB/RW. I refuse to believe there’s not better than Young in our youth set up..
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The two best at right back are probably those currently on loan at Palace and Villa.
Puigmal I also like at rightback, although he'll probably end up in midfield eventually. He could play anywhere on the pitch though that lad (maybe barring centreback or in goal). He's not ready yet though. Maybe a few call ups next season.
Playing up the pitch off the right, it'd be Chong or Greenwood. They're right sided forwards rather than wingers though.
We don't play with wingers at U18 or U23 (or senior) level. Chong is probably the closest we have to a winger at the club at any level. And he isn't one.
*Greenwood isn't really a right sided forward either. Although when he does play there, he's usually very good.
Speaking of changes, Barca have made 10 changes to the side United faced last week, only Ter Stegen keeps his place
Isn’t Laird supposed to be a very good full back in our under 23s?
Pacy and right footed if I’m not mistaken?
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posted on 13/4/19
Liking the sound of that
posted on 13/4/19
comment by San Miguel (U1449)
posted 4 minutes ago
Liking the sound of that
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Same. My thought is that even if it doesn't work out of Ole on the pitch, I can only see him improving the squad for the long term.
posted on 13/4/19
Let’s hope he shies away from superstar types and builds with young hungry and talented players, who want to play for the badge. I think ole will try and go down that route.
posted on 13/4/19
waste of time buying overpriced galactico superstar type players as they only seem to think that they should be playing for Real Madrid at the end of the day. A half of them aren't as good as they think they are. Look at Pogba. Get rid I say.
posted on 13/4/19
It’s not as easy as saying galactico types are bad and young and hungry are good
It’s about identifying which ones are the right ones and which ones are the wrong ones. Whatever category they come from. Robben for example would have been a great signing from Real had we gone for him. As would ‘overpriced’ at the time players like Van Dijk.
posted on 13/4/19
Even someone like Bale could be a great signing under the right circumstances. If it’s a choice between getting him or going with Lingard/Mata on the right next season then it’s Bale all day long
posted on 13/4/19
Even someone like Bale could be a great signing under the right circumstances. If it’s a choice between getting him or going with Lingard/Mata on the right next season then it’s Bale all day long
........................................................................
Agree to a point, he would indeed be better than Lingard and Mata, however, at what cost. I wouldn't want to be spending big on Bale as there are major question marks around his fitness. I also think that here are younger prospect across Europe that may have an element of uncertainty around being successful at a massive club like United but worth the chance on the right wing.
posted on 13/4/19
At this point I’m not sure cost is of the hugest concern
Say for example Bale costs £100 million and with careful management we get two good seasons out of him and him being at the club gives us balance in our attack and we get back into the CL and get us back challenging and that in itself leads to some momentum for us after he leaves then it’s a good signing.
Alternatively we could save money and spend £50 million on a lesser known player and that guy doesn’t do any better than Lingard/Mata and we’re still 6th place with Wolves hot on our heels over the next few seasons.
For Ole’s sake I hope he identifies the exact 4/5 players he wants/needs and the management get him what he asks for because while I doubt Ole is the guy to get us to where we needs to be at the very least he seems to be an intelligent guy who knows what the problems are. He seems to be a fan like us who can see what needs doing. And our entire right side is a bit of a joke
posted on 13/4/19
comment by Robb Ferguson (U21234)
posted 1 hour, 4 minutes ago
It’s not as easy as saying galactico types are bad and young and hungry are good
It’s about identifying which ones are the right ones and which ones are the wrong ones. Whatever category they come from. Robben for example would have been a great signing from Real had we gone for him. As would ‘overpriced’ at the time players like Van Dijk.
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True, but we’ve had a poor turnout with galictico types, so let’s avoid.
posted on 13/4/19
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posted on 13/4/19
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posted on 13/4/19
What I want to know is: where's our sodding Director of Football they promised us?
posted on 13/4/19
What are our academy prospects like at RB/RW. I refuse to believe there’s not better than Young in our youth set up..
posted on 13/4/19
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posted on 13/4/19
comment by Red Russian (U4715)
posted 51 seconds ago
What I want to know is: where's our sodding Director of Football they promised us?
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We’re after the guy at Leipzig.
posted on 13/4/19
Good post Robb, though reading up on Ole's history on the BBC I do think he has a good chance of being the man.
Personally I would not go for Bale, he's turned us down in the past, I don't want revenge by the way, but he shows we would be the next best thing after Real, not that he was buying into Ole's project.
I don't know enough about foreign players, how good they are, values etc, but it is vital at least 75% are successful, you won't get them all right, but three out of four would be good.
posted on 13/4/19
Read somewhere that we had cooled interest in the Palace RB and turned to Meunier (spl). Makes moe sense to allow Dalot to develop imo
posted on 13/4/19
comment by United we win (U19958)
posted 35 minutes ago
Bale would be a horrid signing. He’d spend half the time in the injury room
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Aye, we should be going after young, energetic players who will play for the shirt and not ageing expensive galactico types.
“Ooh, what about Gareth Bale?”
posted on 13/4/19
comment by Red Russian (U4715)
posted 36 minutes ago
What I want to know is: where's our sodding Director of Football they promised us?
----------------------------------------------------------------------
Assistant Bean Counter to step up to Head Bean Counter.
Current Head Bean Counter to step up to DOF role.
Step forward Ed Woodward, Vice Chairman, CEO and DOF.
posted on 13/4/19
Bale looks like a risk from several points of view:
- Does he see playing for United as a big deal (after spurning our advances 2 or 3 times)?
- How much time will he be injured?
- As a player who has relied on athleticism more than finesse, will he be past his best?
- As a player who has won trophies most players can only dream of, is he hungry, does he still have dreams to pursue?
posted on 13/4/19
Bale is probably a signing 2 or 3 years too late.
Have to give him a miss now.
Don't think he'll fit the profile of what OGS will want this summer anyway.
Younger, fitter, hungrier players. Maybe even domestic based.
posted on 13/4/19
comment by The Lambeau Leap (U21050)
posted 56 minutes ago
What are our academy prospects like at RB/RW. I refuse to believe there’s not better than Young in our youth set up..
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The two best at right back are probably those currently on loan at Palace and Villa.
Puigmal I also like at rightback, although he'll probably end up in midfield eventually. He could play anywhere on the pitch though that lad (maybe barring centreback or in goal). He's not ready yet though. Maybe a few call ups next season.
Playing up the pitch off the right, it'd be Chong or Greenwood. They're right sided forwards rather than wingers though.
We don't play with wingers at U18 or U23 (or senior) level. Chong is probably the closest we have to a winger at the club at any level. And he isn't one.
posted on 13/4/19
*Greenwood isn't really a right sided forward either. Although when he does play there, he's usually very good.
posted on 13/4/19
Speaking of changes, Barca have made 10 changes to the side United faced last week, only Ter Stegen keeps his place
posted on 13/4/19
Isn’t Laird supposed to be a very good full back in our under 23s?
Pacy and right footed if I’m not mistaken?
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