Awfully harsh? A 100% red for me.
Anyone saying that isn’t a red is an agenda driven prat. The ball had gone at least a second before deeney is in range & he then puts the forearm in, filthycunt 👊🏻
Definite red. Surprised Sky didn't invite the mouthy gobshiete over for a interview on his thoughts.
Deeney had no business making any contact with Torreira there. The ball was already a mile away.
comment by Barefoot (U19770)
posted 8 minutes ago
Awfully harsh? A 100% red for me.
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Its the old consistency argument again though isn't it.
You often see players get a forearm/elbow in the face and its usually a yellow card at the worst.
comment by PawlBawron (U1055)
posted 3 minutes ago
Its the old consistency argument again though isn't it.
You often see players get a forearm/elbow in the face and its usually a yellow card at the worst.
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What? So a red card offence (which it blatantly was) shouldn’t be a red card as in other previous games it wasn’t given...😂
I know you lot are bitter AF about tonight but have a word with yourself 😂
comment by The Tuesday Club🍷🍻🍹🍸 (U14109)
posted 4 minutes ago
comment by PawlBawron (U1055)
posted 3 minutes ago
Its the old consistency argument again though isn't it.
You often see players get a forearm/elbow in the face and its usually a yellow card at the worst.
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What? So a red card offence (which it blatantly was) shouldn’t be a red card as in other previous games it wasn’t given...😂
I know you lot are bitter AF about tonight but have a word with yourself 😂
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Its a perfectly valid point, had the ref given Deeney a yellow there would have been little if any outrage as it happens every week and rarely results in a sending off.
comment by PawlBawron (U1055)
posted 8 minutes ago
comment by The Tuesday Club🍷🍻🍹🍸 (U14109)
posted 4 minutes ago
comment by PawlBawron (U1055)
posted 3 minutes ago
Its the old consistency argument again though isn't it.
You often see players get a forearm/elbow in the face and its usually a yellow card at the worst.
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What? So a red card offence (which it blatantly was) shouldn’t be a red card as in other previous games it wasn’t given...😂
I know you lot are bitter AF about tonight but have a word with yourself 😂
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Its a perfectly valid point, had the ref given Deeney a yellow there would have been little if any outrage as it happens every week and rarely results in a sending off.
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That doesn't mean it wasn't a red, because it clearly was. Torreira had won and cleared the ball, so why did Deeney swing his elbow at him? Clear red 100%, well done ref. Deeney and Watford will be wasting their time appealing that one. And a player who is stupid enough to boast about thuggery should not complain when his boast comes back to haunt him. Deeney is an idiot and a thug.
This red pleased me so much. Finally after all the cheating and our players getting kicked for years and years they finally got their comeuppance. Deeney knew exactly what he was doing and most refs would have let him get away with it. Fair play Pawson
Cheating disgraceful little team got what they fully deserved.
If refs keep performing like that we might get managers who stop telling their players to try to injure us. That's the main difference between home and away. Pivotal result and ref performance
Its a perfectly valid point, had the ref given Deeney a yellow there would have been little if any outrage as it happens every week and rarely results in a sending off.
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No it doesn't happen every week you may see a player get and elbow in the face when jumping with another player that can happen and isn't deserving of a red card. But in this case a player intentionally putting his elbow into another players face is a red card offence. The referee has followed the letter of the law. If it makes Deeney think in the future I've got to play within the laws of the game then it will be worth it.
We are sick and tired of these thugs, that's why we and City tried hardest to get VAR, but the usual beneficiaries of dodgy ref decisions out-lobbied us. The other year a Stoke thug boasted about kicking Arsenal players in pre-match comments, then his teammate snapped Ramsey's leg during the match.
Mustafi deserved a red card for his touch. I wanna defend Troy Deeney as I like him as a player, but you can't defend what he did. It was a silly thing to do. I hope they got the bullet out of Torreira, bloody snipers.
Deeney's a massive , pundits always praise him as being down to earth and honest when he's just a mouth pr!ck who talks nonsense. Karma for when he said he goes out to kick our players
Always struck me as a sub 80 sort of guy. If he weren't in football he'd probably have died after angrily headbutting a concrete wall or something.
Worth pointing out his prison sentence was for kicking a student in the head whilst he was on the floor.
I know people might point to some of his circumstances, but being poor doesn't make you thick and violent.
Obvious physical attack, the only reason it "may" have been Deeney's arm and not his elbow is that he was too slow in getting to Torreira!
Another poor performance by Arsenal, but a win is a win is a win!
This priiiick gets away with some fouls but this time he got what he deserved. Well done ref.
The funny thing is he is trying to defend smashing Torreira by saying it was a forearm smash not an elbow
Deeney has massive attidute problems. He gets away with far too much over the years. Have nothing against a player who is committed and determined and want to d well. His antics and his style is far of what should be allowed and this time he was rightly punsihed.
I didn't think it was worthy of a red card, personally.
Guess that makes me an agenda driven prat
It's all down to opinion but those saying it was a red by the letter of the law are wrong.
It was one of those pathetic ones that is a red, in the same way those mincy headbutts which are about as strong as a gust of wind are reds.
He deliberately did it, it's part of that "let them know they're in a game" shiiite that basically means lets foul our opposition early on because we can (usually) get away with it.
Great to see the ref sending him off. Hopefully with VAR coming in that nonsense will be out of the game for good.
Scruttocks (U19684)
Those mincy headbutts aren't actually red cards though.
People have just convinced themselves that any show of aggression is an automatic red card, but it's not.
comment by Winston (U16525)
posted 7 minutes ago
Scruttocks (U19684)
Those mincy headbutts aren't actually red cards though.
People have just convinced themselves that any show of aggression is an automatic red card, but it's not.
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Apparently this is what they define as violent conduct in football:
“Violent conduct is when a player uses or attempts to use excessive force or brutality against an opponent when not challenging for the ball, or against a team-mate, team official, match official, spectator or any other person, regardless of whether contact is made.
“In addition, a player who, when not challenging for the ball, deliberately strikes an opponent or any other person on the head or face with the hand or arm, is guilty of violent conduct unless the force used was negligible.”
The second paragraph makes Deeney's a red by the letter of the law. Those mincy headbutts aren't though, so you're right there
comment by Scruttocks (U19684)
posted 3 minutes ago
comment by Winston (U16525)
posted 7 minutes ago
Scruttocks (U19684)
Those mincy headbutts aren't actually red cards though.
People have just convinced themselves that any show of aggression is an automatic red card, but it's not.
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Apparently this is what they define as violent conduct in football:
“Violent conduct is when a player uses or attempts to use excessive force or brutality against an opponent when not challenging for the ball, or against a team-mate, team official, match official, spectator or any other person, regardless of whether contact is made.
“In addition, a player who, when not challenging for the ball, deliberately strikes an opponent or any other person on the head or face with the hand or arm, is guilty of violent conduct unless the force used was negligible.”
The second paragraph makes Deeney's a red by the letter of the law. Those mincy headbutts aren't though, so you're right there
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*I should clarify that the force IMO wasn't negligible from Deeney.
However those headbutts that are lighter than a peck on the cheek often are.
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posted on 15/4/19
Awfully harsh? A 100% red for me.
posted on 15/4/19
Anyone saying that isn’t a red is an agenda driven prat. The ball had gone at least a second before deeney is in range & he then puts the forearm in, filthycunt 👊🏻
posted on 15/4/19
Definite red. Surprised Sky didn't invite the mouthy gobshiete over for a interview on his thoughts.
posted on 15/4/19
Deeney had no business making any contact with Torreira there. The ball was already a mile away.
posted on 15/4/19
comment by Barefoot (U19770)
posted 8 minutes ago
Awfully harsh? A 100% red for me.
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commentator is a tw at
posted on 15/4/19
Its the old consistency argument again though isn't it.
You often see players get a forearm/elbow in the face and its usually a yellow card at the worst.
posted on 15/4/19
comment by PawlBawron (U1055)
posted 3 minutes ago
Its the old consistency argument again though isn't it.
You often see players get a forearm/elbow in the face and its usually a yellow card at the worst.
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What? So a red card offence (which it blatantly was) shouldn’t be a red card as in other previous games it wasn’t given...😂
I know you lot are bitter AF about tonight but have a word with yourself 😂
posted on 15/4/19
comment by The Tuesday Club🍷🍻🍹🍸 (U14109)
posted 4 minutes ago
comment by PawlBawron (U1055)
posted 3 minutes ago
Its the old consistency argument again though isn't it.
You often see players get a forearm/elbow in the face and its usually a yellow card at the worst.
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What? So a red card offence (which it blatantly was) shouldn’t be a red card as in other previous games it wasn’t given...😂
I know you lot are bitter AF about tonight but have a word with yourself 😂
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Its a perfectly valid point, had the ref given Deeney a yellow there would have been little if any outrage as it happens every week and rarely results in a sending off.
posted on 15/4/19
comment by PawlBawron (U1055)
posted 8 minutes ago
comment by The Tuesday Club🍷🍻🍹🍸 (U14109)
posted 4 minutes ago
comment by PawlBawron (U1055)
posted 3 minutes ago
Its the old consistency argument again though isn't it.
You often see players get a forearm/elbow in the face and its usually a yellow card at the worst.
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What? So a red card offence (which it blatantly was) shouldn’t be a red card as in other previous games it wasn’t given...😂
I know you lot are bitter AF about tonight but have a word with yourself 😂
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Its a perfectly valid point, had the ref given Deeney a yellow there would have been little if any outrage as it happens every week and rarely results in a sending off.
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That doesn't mean it wasn't a red, because it clearly was. Torreira had won and cleared the ball, so why did Deeney swing his elbow at him? Clear red 100%, well done ref. Deeney and Watford will be wasting their time appealing that one. And a player who is stupid enough to boast about thuggery should not complain when his boast comes back to haunt him. Deeney is an idiot and a thug.
posted on 15/4/19
This red pleased me so much. Finally after all the cheating and our players getting kicked for years and years they finally got their comeuppance. Deeney knew exactly what he was doing and most refs would have let him get away with it. Fair play Pawson
Cheating disgraceful little team got what they fully deserved.
posted on 15/4/19
If refs keep performing like that we might get managers who stop telling their players to try to injure us. That's the main difference between home and away. Pivotal result and ref performance
posted on 16/4/19
Its a perfectly valid point, had the ref given Deeney a yellow there would have been little if any outrage as it happens every week and rarely results in a sending off.
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No it doesn't happen every week you may see a player get and elbow in the face when jumping with another player that can happen and isn't deserving of a red card. But in this case a player intentionally putting his elbow into another players face is a red card offence. The referee has followed the letter of the law. If it makes Deeney think in the future I've got to play within the laws of the game then it will be worth it.
posted on 16/4/19
We are sick and tired of these thugs, that's why we and City tried hardest to get VAR, but the usual beneficiaries of dodgy ref decisions out-lobbied us. The other year a Stoke thug boasted about kicking Arsenal players in pre-match comments, then his teammate snapped Ramsey's leg during the match.
posted on 16/4/19
Mustafi deserved a red card for his touch. I wanna defend Troy Deeney as I like him as a player, but you can't defend what he did. It was a silly thing to do. I hope they got the bullet out of Torreira, bloody snipers.
posted on 16/4/19
Deeney's a massive , pundits always praise him as being down to earth and honest when he's just a mouth pr!ck who talks nonsense. Karma for when he said he goes out to kick our players
posted on 16/4/19
Always struck me as a sub 80 sort of guy. If he weren't in football he'd probably have died after angrily headbutting a concrete wall or something.
Worth pointing out his prison sentence was for kicking a student in the head whilst he was on the floor.
I know people might point to some of his circumstances, but being poor doesn't make you thick and violent.
posted on 16/4/19
Obvious physical attack, the only reason it "may" have been Deeney's arm and not his elbow is that he was too slow in getting to Torreira!
Another poor performance by Arsenal, but a win is a win is a win!
posted on 16/4/19
This priiiick gets away with some fouls but this time he got what he deserved. Well done ref.
posted on 16/4/19
The funny thing is he is trying to defend smashing Torreira by saying it was a forearm smash not an elbow
posted on 16/4/19
Deeney has massive attidute problems. He gets away with far too much over the years. Have nothing against a player who is committed and determined and want to d well. His antics and his style is far of what should be allowed and this time he was rightly punsihed.
posted on 16/4/19
I didn't think it was worthy of a red card, personally.
Guess that makes me an agenda driven prat
It's all down to opinion but those saying it was a red by the letter of the law are wrong.
posted on 16/4/19
It was one of those pathetic ones that is a red, in the same way those mincy headbutts which are about as strong as a gust of wind are reds.
He deliberately did it, it's part of that "let them know they're in a game" shiiite that basically means lets foul our opposition early on because we can (usually) get away with it.
Great to see the ref sending him off. Hopefully with VAR coming in that nonsense will be out of the game for good.
posted on 16/4/19
Scruttocks (U19684)
Those mincy headbutts aren't actually red cards though.
People have just convinced themselves that any show of aggression is an automatic red card, but it's not.
posted on 16/4/19
comment by Winston (U16525)
posted 7 minutes ago
Scruttocks (U19684)
Those mincy headbutts aren't actually red cards though.
People have just convinced themselves that any show of aggression is an automatic red card, but it's not.
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Apparently this is what they define as violent conduct in football:
“Violent conduct is when a player uses or attempts to use excessive force or brutality against an opponent when not challenging for the ball, or against a team-mate, team official, match official, spectator or any other person, regardless of whether contact is made.
“In addition, a player who, when not challenging for the ball, deliberately strikes an opponent or any other person on the head or face with the hand or arm, is guilty of violent conduct unless the force used was negligible.”
The second paragraph makes Deeney's a red by the letter of the law. Those mincy headbutts aren't though, so you're right there
posted on 16/4/19
comment by Scruttocks (U19684)
posted 3 minutes ago
comment by Winston (U16525)
posted 7 minutes ago
Scruttocks (U19684)
Those mincy headbutts aren't actually red cards though.
People have just convinced themselves that any show of aggression is an automatic red card, but it's not.
----------------------------------------------------------------------
Apparently this is what they define as violent conduct in football:
“Violent conduct is when a player uses or attempts to use excessive force or brutality against an opponent when not challenging for the ball, or against a team-mate, team official, match official, spectator or any other person, regardless of whether contact is made.
“In addition, a player who, when not challenging for the ball, deliberately strikes an opponent or any other person on the head or face with the hand or arm, is guilty of violent conduct unless the force used was negligible.”
The second paragraph makes Deeney's a red by the letter of the law. Those mincy headbutts aren't though, so you're right there
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*I should clarify that the force IMO wasn't negligible from Deeney.
However those headbutts that are lighter than a peck on the cheek often are.
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