I'd like it to be as cheap as possible.
Mike (U1170)
I'd like it to be as cheap as possible.
That is an easy answer, but this console will probably last another 7 years, for the sake of and extra £100 or so, isn't it worth it for the potential boost it could give the system.
3 or more years from now, even a £600 console would be selling a lot cheaper, with the games just getting into their stride.
I’m not saying I want them to compromise on specs, they should make it as good as it can be.
Then when they set the price I would like to pay as little as possible.
I understand that Mike, we would all love to pay £100, but it wouldn't be much of a console.
I would like them to push the boat out a little, £350 would be a great price, but I would happily pay £500 to up the specs.
Would you pay £500? or do you think that is that too much for a new console?
To be honest if it were released at £500 with brilliant specs I’d take that, even £550.
Although in reality I’d probably wait for it to drop a little nearer £400 and just stick with the PS4 Pro for a couple more years. There are still so many huge games I’ve not played yet and as a very casual gamer I can easily hold out for longer without feeling like I’m missing out.
To be honest Mike, I hope everyone has your attitude. And I think it makes perfect sense to want better specs and wait for a price drop, than to have lesser specs to get it day one.
I will probably be doing the same, maybe wait for some PSVR2 news before jumping in.
comment by Mike (U1170)
posted 3 hours, 4 minutes ago
I'd like it to be as cheap as possible.
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I'll guess at £399 I think £500 would be way too much and people including myself would just wait for the price to drop. I started off with the Mega Drive and from there went PS1, 2, 3 and 4 so Sony will definitely get my cash at some point. The PS2 was such a revelation with the in-built DVD player when at the time they cost £££ by themselves.
Personally I've got so much to get through on the PS3 and PS4 that it would most likely be a year before I got one anyway and that would most likely be at Christmas when all the shops/online are trying to outdo each other with bundles and by that point there will be a stronger selection of titles to choose from.
I've never bought a console at release so it would have to be something very special to change that. FFVII or Death Stranding could do it though.
Media wise will it be any different to the PS4? Blu-Ray player, Netflix, Sky, YouTube etc I can't think of anything obvious that isn't already available.
I probably wouldn’t mind paying up to about £600 myself Amiga if it’s going to be a huge step up. But obviously there will be a lot of people who will not want or be able to pay that so it’ll be interesting to see where Sony sets the price.
As much as I wouldn't mind paying it Randomer, I think it would be a huge gamble on Sony's part.
£499, I would guess as the maximum, but Sony may choose to take a loss in the short term, to keep the specs high.
I would pay maybe upto 500. However, I don't think Sony can do that as that is not the "console segment"..... though this does ask a big question what will be the console segment post PS5? Stadia looked impressive today - so 10 years I'm expecting to see Netflixesque improvements each year and 5g is looking to be a data game changer. So if I was a betting man I would predict this will be the last "real" console generation we have. How will this affect Sony's mind set with the PS5? This generation is gonna be interesting.
I have a feeling this announcement was to spoil any future news of the next xbox. I'm sure both stables are well into development of their new consoles, and whatever hardware deals had to be made have been done.
I don't think MS thought Sony would be bringing out a console with such impressive specs, I certainly doubt they will be running a SSD, (hell they might not even out a disk drive in) and MS always try to sell at a profit. I think Sony may have some big advantages going into next gen.
I don't remember exactly, but wasn't the PS4 the first PlayStation to actually make a profit on launch, rather than be a loss leader (Sony making their money from licences and games rather than the console)?
I imagine this'll be the same. Could also explain why there's nothing particularly revolutionary in it - keeping costs down. Although an SSD is nice.
Yes Hobo, Sony's finances were a bit of a mess, there were all sorts of savings being made in their business. and they had to make sure to keep a tight ship with the launch of the PS4. So yes it was profitable from launch.
Playstation has now become a major part of their business, especially since following MS lead with an online subscription service, and it looks like they want to keep it that way.
The specs are very good for a console, MS will do well to match it.
Ssd is dirt cheap nowadays though. I got a 1tb one 2 years ago for 100 quid. It really shouldn't be the selling point. Even hybrid drives have been available for a long time.
I won't get one because I'm strictly PC gaming nowadays but 500 seems steep as you could likely build today's top range PC for that price in 18 months time and it would be as powerful.
Sounds like it's more than just an SSD though Rep, again not much info out there yet but what was said would suggest that's it will be pretty fundamental in how development could be done on the system, and I'm guessing leap frog the ram limitation of consoles. Again I have no facts so I could be totally wrong!
The information regarding the SSD is intriguing. This will not be the standard SSD Republik is talking about, This one will be far more specialised and will be an important part of the PS5 achitecture.
Again Republik. it is not simply about the hardware, it's what is done with it. Sony's first party studios will make the most of the hardware in front of them. That doesn't happen for PC.
My initial thoughts is that it is acting more like intels octane system where a very fast SSD acts as a giant buffer/sort of secondary ram for files. And I'm guessing if they continue utilising the gddr it should work very well together and help pushing those 4k images (I'm personally still doubtful of 8k and that seemed less confirmed than the rest)
As far as 8k does, it will probably be able to display 8k images, but not much more.
So technically capable of 8k, but certainly not meant for gaming.
Anything below 700 is acceptable. Im not too fond of Nintendo games and xbox has virtually nothing to offer so Playstation can ask whatever they find feasible. The SSD feature is the biggest upgrade for me. Remember the loading times in Destiny 1 when your aircraft is in orbit of a planet? No more! Don't care about 8k, but hopefully it will be a quiet machine. (PS4 pro doesn't make too much noise imo)
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posted on 18/4/19
I'd like it to be as cheap as possible.
posted on 18/4/19
Mike (U1170)
I'd like it to be as cheap as possible.
That is an easy answer, but this console will probably last another 7 years, for the sake of and extra £100 or so, isn't it worth it for the potential boost it could give the system.
3 or more years from now, even a £600 console would be selling a lot cheaper, with the games just getting into their stride.
posted on 18/4/19
I’m not saying I want them to compromise on specs, they should make it as good as it can be.
Then when they set the price I would like to pay as little as possible.
posted on 18/4/19
I understand that Mike, we would all love to pay £100, but it wouldn't be much of a console.
I would like them to push the boat out a little, £350 would be a great price, but I would happily pay £500 to up the specs.
Would you pay £500? or do you think that is that too much for a new console?
posted on 18/4/19
To be honest if it were released at £500 with brilliant specs I’d take that, even £550.
Although in reality I’d probably wait for it to drop a little nearer £400 and just stick with the PS4 Pro for a couple more years. There are still so many huge games I’ve not played yet and as a very casual gamer I can easily hold out for longer without feeling like I’m missing out.
posted on 18/4/19
To be honest Mike, I hope everyone has your attitude. And I think it makes perfect sense to want better specs and wait for a price drop, than to have lesser specs to get it day one.
I will probably be doing the same, maybe wait for some PSVR2 news before jumping in.
posted on 18/4/19
comment by Mike (U1170)
posted 3 hours, 4 minutes ago
I'd like it to be as cheap as possible.
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posted on 18/4/19
I'll guess at £399 I think £500 would be way too much and people including myself would just wait for the price to drop. I started off with the Mega Drive and from there went PS1, 2, 3 and 4 so Sony will definitely get my cash at some point. The PS2 was such a revelation with the in-built DVD player when at the time they cost £££ by themselves.
Personally I've got so much to get through on the PS3 and PS4 that it would most likely be a year before I got one anyway and that would most likely be at Christmas when all the shops/online are trying to outdo each other with bundles and by that point there will be a stronger selection of titles to choose from.
I've never bought a console at release so it would have to be something very special to change that. FFVII or Death Stranding could do it though.
Media wise will it be any different to the PS4? Blu-Ray player, Netflix, Sky, YouTube etc I can't think of anything obvious that isn't already available.
posted on 19/4/19
I probably wouldn’t mind paying up to about £600 myself Amiga if it’s going to be a huge step up. But obviously there will be a lot of people who will not want or be able to pay that so it’ll be interesting to see where Sony sets the price.
posted on 19/4/19
As much as I wouldn't mind paying it Randomer, I think it would be a huge gamble on Sony's part.
£499, I would guess as the maximum, but Sony may choose to take a loss in the short term, to keep the specs high.
posted on 19/4/19
I would pay maybe upto 500. However, I don't think Sony can do that as that is not the "console segment"..... though this does ask a big question what will be the console segment post PS5? Stadia looked impressive today - so 10 years I'm expecting to see Netflixesque improvements each year and 5g is looking to be a data game changer. So if I was a betting man I would predict this will be the last "real" console generation we have. How will this affect Sony's mind set with the PS5? This generation is gonna be interesting.
posted on 19/4/19
I have a feeling this announcement was to spoil any future news of the next xbox. I'm sure both stables are well into development of their new consoles, and whatever hardware deals had to be made have been done.
I don't think MS thought Sony would be bringing out a console with such impressive specs, I certainly doubt they will be running a SSD, (hell they might not even out a disk drive in) and MS always try to sell at a profit. I think Sony may have some big advantages going into next gen.
posted on 19/4/19
I don't remember exactly, but wasn't the PS4 the first PlayStation to actually make a profit on launch, rather than be a loss leader (Sony making their money from licences and games rather than the console)?
I imagine this'll be the same. Could also explain why there's nothing particularly revolutionary in it - keeping costs down. Although an SSD is nice.
posted on 19/4/19
Yes Hobo, Sony's finances were a bit of a mess, there were all sorts of savings being made in their business. and they had to make sure to keep a tight ship with the launch of the PS4. So yes it was profitable from launch.
Playstation has now become a major part of their business, especially since following MS lead with an online subscription service, and it looks like they want to keep it that way.
The specs are very good for a console, MS will do well to match it.
posted on 23/4/19
Ssd is dirt cheap nowadays though. I got a 1tb one 2 years ago for 100 quid. It really shouldn't be the selling point. Even hybrid drives have been available for a long time.
I won't get one because I'm strictly PC gaming nowadays but 500 seems steep as you could likely build today's top range PC for that price in 18 months time and it would be as powerful.
posted on 23/4/19
Sounds like it's more than just an SSD though Rep, again not much info out there yet but what was said would suggest that's it will be pretty fundamental in how development could be done on the system, and I'm guessing leap frog the ram limitation of consoles. Again I have no facts so I could be totally wrong!
posted on 23/4/19
The information regarding the SSD is intriguing. This will not be the standard SSD Republik is talking about, This one will be far more specialised and will be an important part of the PS5 achitecture.
Again Republik. it is not simply about the hardware, it's what is done with it. Sony's first party studios will make the most of the hardware in front of them. That doesn't happen for PC.
posted on 23/4/19
My initial thoughts is that it is acting more like intels octane system where a very fast SSD acts as a giant buffer/sort of secondary ram for files. And I'm guessing if they continue utilising the gddr it should work very well together and help pushing those 4k images (I'm personally still doubtful of 8k and that seemed less confirmed than the rest)
posted on 23/4/19
As far as 8k does, it will probably be able to display 8k images, but not much more.
So technically capable of 8k, but certainly not meant for gaming.
posted on 22/6/19
Anything below 700 is acceptable. Im not too fond of Nintendo games and xbox has virtually nothing to offer so Playstation can ask whatever they find feasible. The SSD feature is the biggest upgrade for me. Remember the loading times in Destiny 1 when your aircraft is in orbit of a planet? No more! Don't care about 8k, but hopefully it will be a quiet machine. (PS4 pro doesn't make too much noise imo)
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