I think the initial run of results were paving over the cracks. Our first XI simply isn't good enough to be higher than we are.
All you have to do is compare our current first XI with previous successful sides and the difference is there for all to see.
We need TOP TOP players who are driven to succeed.
I fear he might be right tbh. Should have waited to the end of the season before making a decision
so as a guy who hires and fires managers i'm sure jenas is spot on since he has huge experience in the field
No point worrying about it now.
He's the manager, give him a couple of transfer windows to clean out the dead wood, bring in his own players, and only then can people truly pass judgement.
and btw just imagine how far from top 4 we would be if mourinho was in charge
Oh no, not Jermaine Jenas. What does Garth Crooks think?
comment by Ruiney (U1005)
posted 15 seconds ago
Oh no, not Jermaine Jenas. What does Garth Crooks think?
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hahaha this
There was no reason to announce the deal until the summer which WAS bad acumen by Glazers.
However we have an identity thanks JJ, that has seen us well since 1945. Its a great and glorious identity which I am very proud off. To suggest that it cant work any more is absolute garbage from JJ. We have failed since fergie because we has 3 clowns who tried to move away from it and do it their own way, now the people left at the Club have forgotten what is. We just need a Board and D of F that will help Ole remind the fans supporters and the current crop of players especially what it is again and what it means to play for the Club. Like Ole is doing.
comment by Ruiney (U1005)
posted 3 minutes ago
Oh no, not Jermaine Jenas. What does Garth Crooks think?
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he comes across as horrible bitter needy little cant
Didn't JJ wear Diamond earrings.
Enough said.
(However his missus is quite spectacular)
When Robby Savage agrees with him............
then you've got problems !
Should have waited until the summer imo
I can see why there was a reason to give him the job as we had a great winning run and beat PSG away from home so of course emotionally speaking from a fans PoV it was almost a no brainer
But as we’ve seen in recent weeks there might actually be a wider discussion to be had whether he’s the right guy for the job. We’ve given the job based on a high without seeing how he handles the low.
He has the job now so it’s going to have to do. Hopefully for his sake he starts well next season or else the doubts will only increase
He has the job now so it’s going to have to do. Hopefully for his sake he starts well next season or else the doubts will only increase
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how would that be different for any new manager that started in the summer?
comment by I'll be The Judge of that! (U21434)
posted 15 minutes ago
Didn't JJ wear Diamond earrings.
Enough said.
(However his missus is quite spectacular)
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I'll be The Judge of that! <ok€
I think he has a point about needing a new identity. You keep hearing ex-United players turned pundits like Gary Neville talking about them needing to play the "United way" and "traditions of the club". Just accept that Fergie has moved on as have the players that were under him.
Have faith in ole, he knows what is expected.
The one thing I agree on is what he says about the utd way, in regards saf, his shadow still looms large.
He may be half right as I think it was an emotional appointment. If Ole hadn't previously played for the club, I doubt he would have been appointed, based on his CV. Though that doesn't mean he can't be a success, if given the opportunity and if we make significant improvements to a stale squad, who seem to be going through the motions.
He's wide of the mark with Jose. Letting the opposition have the ball, waiting for them to make a mistake and doing the bare minimum to get by isn't ever going to be an effective long term strategy.
We've just gone through a horrendous set of fixtures, a terrible injury crisis, a clear depletion in fitness levels and still got to the QF of the CL, are very much still in the top four race, and all without Ole having had chance to sign a single player of his own.
I happen to think hiring Ole is the right approach. He represents a clear departure from the short-term big name managerial signings we've made that haven't really worked, and with the right infrastructure and time, can do what is needed to get us competing again.
JJ is hoping to get in an early "I told you so", and nothing more.
The Night King
Jermain Jenas 👍. Jenas by name, moron by nature
comment by BerbaKing11 (U6256)
posted 18 minutes ago
JJ is hoping to get in an early "I told you so", and nothing more.
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Totally this, I bet if one did a google search you would find a quote from him saying it was the right appointment
https://www.dailystar.co.uk/sport/football/757375/Man-Utd-News-Ole-Gunnar-Solskjaer-PSG-Job-Jermaine-Jenas-Rumours-Gossip
what jenas said in feb
a few snippets
And Jenas believes he has done enough already to get the job, despite Ed Woodward targeting Tottenham head coach Mauricio Pochettino
“I feel like there has been a huge turnaround.
“The players seem to be playing the Manchester United way, there is excitement back in the stadium, they’re scoring goals.
3 years and about 400 mill spent, but thats not enough time... Jose had to go.
Hes even wrong about Ed Woodward. His business acumen is quite stella, hes kept the UTD brand strong, but he shouldn't be making football decisions, step aside, bring in a director.
comment by United_kaz (U9943)
posted 9 minutes ago
https://www.dailystar.co.uk/sport/football/757375/Man-Utd-News-Ole-Gunnar-Solskjaer-PSG-Job-Jermaine-Jenas-Rumours-Gossip
what jenas said in feb
a few snippets
And Jenas believes he has done enough already to get the job, despite Ed Woodward targeting Tottenham head coach Mauricio Pochettino
“I feel like there has been a huge turnaround.
“The players seem to be playing the Manchester United way, there is excitement back in the stadium, they’re scoring goals.
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Knew it
In answer to the OP,
Nobody knows yet, but it certainly appeared the right thing to do at the time, and we all hope it was.
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posted on 20/4/19
I think the initial run of results were paving over the cracks. Our first XI simply isn't good enough to be higher than we are.
All you have to do is compare our current first XI with previous successful sides and the difference is there for all to see.
We need TOP TOP players who are driven to succeed.
posted on 20/4/19
I fear he might be right tbh. Should have waited to the end of the season before making a decision
posted on 20/4/19
so as a guy who hires and fires managers i'm sure jenas is spot on since he has huge experience in the field
posted on 20/4/19
No point worrying about it now.
He's the manager, give him a couple of transfer windows to clean out the dead wood, bring in his own players, and only then can people truly pass judgement.
posted on 20/4/19
and btw just imagine how far from top 4 we would be if mourinho was in charge
posted on 20/4/19
Oh no, not Jermaine Jenas. What does Garth Crooks think?
posted on 20/4/19
comment by Ruiney (U1005)
posted 15 seconds ago
Oh no, not Jermaine Jenas. What does Garth Crooks think?
----------------------------------------------------------------------
hahaha this
posted on 20/4/19
There was no reason to announce the deal until the summer which WAS bad acumen by Glazers.
However we have an identity thanks JJ, that has seen us well since 1945. Its a great and glorious identity which I am very proud off. To suggest that it cant work any more is absolute garbage from JJ. We have failed since fergie because we has 3 clowns who tried to move away from it and do it their own way, now the people left at the Club have forgotten what is. We just need a Board and D of F that will help Ole remind the fans supporters and the current crop of players especially what it is again and what it means to play for the Club. Like Ole is doing.
posted on 20/4/19
comment by Ruiney (U1005)
posted 3 minutes ago
Oh no, not Jermaine Jenas. What does Garth Crooks think?
----------------------------------------------------------------------
he comes across as horrible bitter needy little cant
posted on 20/4/19
Didn't JJ wear Diamond earrings.
Enough said.
(However his missus is quite spectacular)
posted on 20/4/19
When Robby Savage agrees with him............
then you've got problems !
posted on 20/4/19
Should have waited until the summer imo
I can see why there was a reason to give him the job as we had a great winning run and beat PSG away from home so of course emotionally speaking from a fans PoV it was almost a no brainer
But as we’ve seen in recent weeks there might actually be a wider discussion to be had whether he’s the right guy for the job. We’ve given the job based on a high without seeing how he handles the low.
He has the job now so it’s going to have to do. Hopefully for his sake he starts well next season or else the doubts will only increase
posted on 20/4/19
He has the job now so it’s going to have to do. Hopefully for his sake he starts well next season or else the doubts will only increase
--------------
how would that be different for any new manager that started in the summer?
posted on 20/4/19
comment by I'll be The Judge of that! (U21434)
posted 15 minutes ago
Didn't JJ wear Diamond earrings.
Enough said.
(However his missus is quite spectacular)
----------------------------------------------------------------------
I'll be The Judge of that! <ok€
posted on 20/4/19
I think he has a point about needing a new identity. You keep hearing ex-United players turned pundits like Gary Neville talking about them needing to play the "United way" and "traditions of the club". Just accept that Fergie has moved on as have the players that were under him.
posted on 20/4/19
Have faith in ole, he knows what is expected.
The one thing I agree on is what he says about the utd way, in regards saf, his shadow still looms large.
posted on 20/4/19
He may be half right as I think it was an emotional appointment. If Ole hadn't previously played for the club, I doubt he would have been appointed, based on his CV. Though that doesn't mean he can't be a success, if given the opportunity and if we make significant improvements to a stale squad, who seem to be going through the motions.
He's wide of the mark with Jose. Letting the opposition have the ball, waiting for them to make a mistake and doing the bare minimum to get by isn't ever going to be an effective long term strategy.
posted on 20/4/19
Who's JJ?
posted on 20/4/19
We've just gone through a horrendous set of fixtures, a terrible injury crisis, a clear depletion in fitness levels and still got to the QF of the CL, are very much still in the top four race, and all without Ole having had chance to sign a single player of his own.
I happen to think hiring Ole is the right approach. He represents a clear departure from the short-term big name managerial signings we've made that haven't really worked, and with the right infrastructure and time, can do what is needed to get us competing again.
JJ is hoping to get in an early "I told you so", and nothing more.
posted on 20/4/19
The Night King
Jermain Jenas 👍. Jenas by name, moron by nature
posted on 20/4/19
comment by BerbaKing11 (U6256)
posted 18 minutes ago
JJ is hoping to get in an early "I told you so", and nothing more.
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Totally this, I bet if one did a google search you would find a quote from him saying it was the right appointment
posted on 20/4/19
https://www.dailystar.co.uk/sport/football/757375/Man-Utd-News-Ole-Gunnar-Solskjaer-PSG-Job-Jermaine-Jenas-Rumours-Gossip
what jenas said in feb
a few snippets
And Jenas believes he has done enough already to get the job, despite Ed Woodward targeting Tottenham head coach Mauricio Pochettino
“I feel like there has been a huge turnaround.
“The players seem to be playing the Manchester United way, there is excitement back in the stadium, they’re scoring goals.
posted on 20/4/19
3 years and about 400 mill spent, but thats not enough time... Jose had to go.
Hes even wrong about Ed Woodward. His business acumen is quite stella, hes kept the UTD brand strong, but he shouldn't be making football decisions, step aside, bring in a director.
posted on 20/4/19
comment by United_kaz (U9943)
posted 9 minutes ago
https://www.dailystar.co.uk/sport/football/757375/Man-Utd-News-Ole-Gunnar-Solskjaer-PSG-Job-Jermaine-Jenas-Rumours-Gossip
what jenas said in feb
a few snippets
And Jenas believes he has done enough already to get the job, despite Ed Woodward targeting Tottenham head coach Mauricio Pochettino
“I feel like there has been a huge turnaround.
“The players seem to be playing the Manchester United way, there is excitement back in the stadium, they’re scoring goals.
----------------------------------------------------------------------
Knew it
posted on 20/4/19
In answer to the OP,
Nobody knows yet, but it certainly appeared the right thing to do at the time, and we all hope it was.
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