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posted on 20/4/19

comment by Robbing_Hoody - as a rule I don't trust a man who doesn't drink but I do trust James Milner (U6374)
posted 10 minutes ago
comment by palmers_spur (U8896)
posted 14 minutes ago
We get loads of pens?!

You support Liverpool ffs. Salah has thrown himself on the floor about half a dozen times this season .
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That doesn't alter the fact that over the past three seasons Spyrs have been given loads of penalties.

Nothing to do with Salah or Liverpool
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Not looking for a Pool Spurs bitchfest but surely you agree that you have had some ridiculous penalties this season

Alli has an embarrassing reputation for diving (though quietened down this season) but I don’t recall many of his dives resulting in penalties

posted on 20/4/19

Our players duce loads. Don't care.

Doesn't alter the fact that Spurs get given plenty.

posted on 20/4/19

comment by palmers_spur (U8896)
posted 8 minutes ago
comment by Robbing_Hoody - as a rule I don't trust a man who doesn't drink but I do trust James Milner (U6374)
posted 10 minutes ago
comment by palmers_spur (U8896)
posted 14 minutes ago
We get loads of pens?!

You support Liverpool ffs. Salah has thrown himself on the floor about half a dozen times this season .
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That doesn't alter the fact that over the past three seasons Spyrs have been given loads of penalties.

Nothing to do with Salah or Liverpool
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Not looking for a Pool Spurs bitchfest but surely you agree that you have had some ridiculous penalties this season

Alli has an embarrassing reputation for diving (though quietened down this season) but I don’t recall many of his dives resulting in penalties
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We haven't had any penalties without there being a foul. The one time Salah dived without a foul, he didn't get the penalty, although to be fair, he should have been booked.

But if you want to tell me which oenalty out if the six we got which wasn't a foul, that would be interesting.

posted on 20/4/19

TOOR

It’s all 6

posted on 20/4/19

comment by TobyJanKaneobi (U15068)
Exactly Thorgen to believe no one within the media has preconceived opinions is idiotic. Especially as most within the sports media are affiliated with an opposition club.
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Question is, why do those who follow a certain club allow bad reporting re their club by their colleagues?

It doesn't happen.

It's all about selling copies and getting clicks ad getting people to watch.

They make a United article today they get 100,000 hits. Tomorrow, a Spurs article and get 10,000 hits.

They have no moral obligation not to make United article every day therefore. In today's world, it's considered stupid because it's tantamount to letting money escape your grasp.

You raise a deep point OP. Media and distribution of information should never have been a purely for profit enterprise. Its facked us up

posted on 20/4/19

comment by TOORSpursFan (U1721)
posted 46 minutes ago
comment by palmers_spur (U8896)
posted 8 minutes ago
comment by Robbing_Hoody - as a rule I don't trust a man who doesn't drink but I do trust James Milner (U6374)
posted 10 minutes ago
comment by palmers_spur (U8896)
posted 14 minutes ago
We get loads of pens?!

You support Liverpool ffs. Salah has thrown himself on the floor about half a dozen times this season .
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That doesn't alter the fact that over the past three seasons Spyrs have been given loads of penalties.

Nothing to do with Salah or Liverpool
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Not looking for a Pool Spurs bitchfest but surely you agree that you have had some ridiculous penalties this season

Alli has an embarrassing reputation for diving (though quietened down this season) but I don’t recall many of his dives resulting in penalties
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We haven't had any penalties without there being a foul. The one time Salah dived without a foul, he didn't get the penalty, although to be fair, he should have been booked.

But if you want to tell me which oenalty out if the six we got which wasn't a foul, that would be interesting.
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Didn’t Salah go down ridiculously v Newcastle earlier in the season ?

posted on 20/4/19

comment by Hulk's little brother Yoda (U1250)
posted 2 hours, 22 minutes ago
Why are Spurs fans so bothered by the media. Must be the umpteenth article this week. Just enjoy your successes. Fack the media.
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Exactly

posted on 20/4/19

comment by 8bit (U2653)
posted 2 hours, 37 minutes ago
Who cares what they say, you're in the semi finals and City are not.
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Exactly

posted on 20/4/19

posted 2 hours, 54 minutes ago

The media don't play favourites
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This isnt true, and they freely admit it. Man Utd fans are their biggest customer, they have to accommodate that.

posted on 20/4/19

comment by MKspur (U9129)
posted 2 hours, 52 minutes ago
Can’t believe any thinks Verts isn’t a pen.
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All about opinions

I can understand the ref not giving it in real time but you would have to believe that a VAR review would have result

posted on 20/4/19

comment by FishMCFC (U16301)
posted 0 seconds ago
comment by MKspur (U9129)
posted 2 hours, 52 minutes ago
Can’t believe any thinks Verts isn’t a pen.
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All about opinions

I can understand the ref not giving it in real time but you would have to believe that a VAR review would have result
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Resulted in a pen being awarded

I don't think Walker's was a pen. It just hit him, his arm is to his side and he made no arm movement to the ball.

If you think that is handball then you would have to Llorente's was. You can't have it both ways.

posted on 20/4/19

comment by FishMCFC (U16301)
posted 5 seconds ago
comment by FishMCFC (U16301)
posted 0 seconds ago
comment by MKspur (U9129)
posted 2 hours, 52 minutes ago
Can’t believe any thinks Verts isn’t a pen.
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All about opinions

I can understand the ref not giving it in real time but you would have to believe that a VAR review would have result
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Resulted in a pen being awarded

I don't think Walker's was a pen. It just hit him, his arm is to his side and he made no arm movement to the ball.

If you think that is handball then you would have to Llorente's was. You can't have it both ways.
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To <concede>

posted on 20/4/19

comment by palmers_spur (U8896)
posted 54 minutes ago
comment by TOORSpursFan (U1721)
posted 46 minutes ago
comment by palmers_spur (U8896)
posted 8 minutes ago
comment by Robbing_Hoody - as a rule I don't trust a man who doesn't drink but I do trust James Milner (U6374)
posted 10 minutes ago
comment by palmers_spur (U8896)
posted 14 minutes ago
We get loads of pens?!

You support Liverpool ffs. Salah has thrown himself on the floor about half a dozen times this season .
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That doesn't alter the fact that over the past three seasons Spyrs have been given loads of penalties.

Nothing to do with Salah or Liverpool
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Not looking for a Pool Spurs bitchfest but surely you agree that you have had some ridiculous penalties this season

Alli has an embarrassing reputation for diving (though quietened down this season) but I don’t recall many of his dives resulting in penalties
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We haven't had any penalties without there being a foul. The one time Salah dived without a foul, he didn't get the penalty, although to be fair, he should have been booked.

But if you want to tell me which oenalty out if the six we got which wasn't a foul, that would be interesting.
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Didn’t Salah go down ridiculously v Newcastle earlier in the season ?
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He was pulled back from behind, when through on goal in the box. He dived, any attacker in that position would. It's a foul and a penalty.

That isn't what I asked however. I asked out of the six penalties we've had all season, can anybody point out which ones weren't fouls?

posted on 20/4/19

comment by FishMCFC (U16301)
posted 33 minutes ago
comment by FishMCFC (U16301)
posted 5 seconds ago
comment by FishMCFC (U16301)
posted 0 seconds ago
comment by MKspur (U9129)
posted 2 hours, 52 minutes ago
Can’t believe any thinks Verts isn’t a pen.
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All about opinions

I can understand the ref not giving it in real time but you would have to believe that a VAR review would have result
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Resulted in a pen being awarded

I don't think Walker's was a pen. It just hit him, his arm is to his side and he made no arm movement to the ball.

If you think that is handball then you would have to Llorente's was. You can't have it both ways.
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To <concede>
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That's the collective you. Not you MK.

Pardon the broken up posts. Had a few Gin and Tonics.

comment by SteveF (U22027)

posted on 21/4/19

comment by Eighties Glory Years (U22086)
posted 3 hours, 22 minutes ago
comment by Hulk's little brother Yoda (U1250)
posted 2 hours, 22 minutes ago
Why are Spurs fans so bothered by the media. Must be the umpteenth article this week. Just enjoy your successes. Fack the media.
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Exactly
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Because it has been happening for ages. As previously said. If Spurs win it must be the opposition who played badly or are tired, but if Spurs loose it is lack of spending, small squad. Today a classic example. All the articles after this morning's game were about how well City fought, what a tough schedule they have blah, blah. Never similar comments about Spurs. We did play in the CL game also and have had a long run in the League Cup. But there was nothing on this, just a couple of vague comments on how Spurs also turned up today,. City keeps getting praised up, but never a word on why they are where they are.
Be nice if for once a pundit came out with some honest comments on how anyone can play / win like City if they go out a spend 1/2 a billion. Is facking easy to do that.

posted on 21/4/19

comment by TOORSpursFan (U1721)
posted 10 hours, 40 minutes ago
comment by palmers_spur (U8896)
posted 54 minutes ago
comment by TOORSpursFan (U1721)
posted 46 minutes ago
comment by palmers_spur (U8896)
posted 8 minutes ago
comment by Robbing_Hoody - as a rule I don't trust a man who doesn't drink but I do trust James Milner (U6374)
posted 10 minutes ago
comment by palmers_spur (U8896)
posted 14 minutes ago
We get loads of pens?!

You support Liverpool ffs. Salah has thrown himself on the floor about half a dozen times this season .
----------------------------------------------------------------------

That doesn't alter the fact that over the past three seasons Spyrs have been given loads of penalties.

Nothing to do with Salah or Liverpool
----------------------------------------------------------------------

Not looking for a Pool Spurs bitchfest but surely you agree that you have had some ridiculous penalties this season

Alli has an embarrassing reputation for diving (though quietened down this season) but I don’t recall many of his dives resulting in penalties
----------------------------------------------------------------------
We haven't had any penalties without there being a foul. The one time Salah dived without a foul, he didn't get the penalty, although to be fair, he should have been booked.

But if you want to tell me which oenalty out if the six we got which wasn't a foul, that would be interesting.
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Didn’t Salah go down ridiculously v Newcastle earlier in the season ?
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He was pulled back from behind, when through on goal in the box. He dived, any attacker in that position would. It's a foul and a penalty.

That isn't what I asked however. I asked out of the six penalties we've had all season, can anybody point out which ones weren't fouls?
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TOOR still insisting that it’s 100% a foul but doesn’t even know which law applies.

Ignorance is bliss.

posted on 21/4/19

comment by Winston (U16525)
posted 17 minutes ago
comment by TOORSpursFan (U1721)
posted 10 hours, 40 minutes ago
comment by palmers_spur (U8896)
posted 54 minutes ago
comment by TOORSpursFan (U1721)
posted 46 minutes ago
comment by palmers_spur (U8896)
posted 8 minutes ago
comment by Robbing_Hoody - as a rule I don't trust a man who doesn't drink but I do trust James Milner (U6374)
posted 10 minutes ago
comment by palmers_spur (U8896)
posted 14 minutes ago
We get loads of pens?!

You support Liverpool ffs. Salah has thrown himself on the floor about half a dozen times this season .
----------------------------------------------------------------------

That doesn't alter the fact that over the past three seasons Spyrs have been given loads of penalties.

Nothing to do with Salah or Liverpool
----------------------------------------------------------------------

Not looking for a Pool Spurs bitchfest but surely you agree that you have had some ridiculous penalties this season

Alli has an embarrassing reputation for diving (though quietened down this season) but I don’t recall many of his dives resulting in penalties
----------------------------------------------------------------------
We haven't had any penalties without there being a foul. The one time Salah dived without a foul, he didn't get the penalty, although to be fair, he should have been booked.

But if you want to tell me which oenalty out if the six we got which wasn't a foul, that would be interesting.
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Didn’t Salah go down ridiculously v Newcastle earlier in the season ?
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He was pulled back from behind, when through on goal in the box. He dived, any attacker in that position would. It's a foul and a penalty.

That isn't what I asked however. I asked out of the six penalties we've had all season, can anybody point out which ones weren't fouls?
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TOOR still insisting that it’s 100% a foul but doesn’t even know which law applies.

Ignorance is bliss.
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Winston still peddling this nonsense.

Same challenge to you Winnie. Show me all of these penalties we got that weren't fouls. Mind you we only got six.

So we have Newcastle, in 4-0 win, Salah pulled from behind in the box, as he moved towards goal.

Former referee Gallagher “I thought it was a penalty – he [Dummett] caught him by the arm and there was enough there. At the speed people move, you do not need much… (to go over). His reaction is that he almost gives upon the decision, like ‘why have I done that?’

Against Brighton when Salah was again pulled back from behind. Houghton had no complaints.
“Mo Salah is probably the best in the country in one-on-one situations, it was hard for Pascal. I certainly apportion no blame.”

Against Arsenal when Salah was again fouled in the box, this time the defender had three kicks at him. Another awarded for a push on Lovren in the box.

Mane fouled by the keeper, in the box against Fulham.

Salah against Palace when Sakho had two kicks against him and brought him down.

So there we have it, a whole six penalties, three in 5-1 and 4-0 thrashing of Arsenal and Newcastle. All fouls.

Myth debunked.

Hope this helps.

posted on 21/4/19

I’m not debating that point, I’m telling you that you’re wrong to claim the Newcastle incident was 100% a foul and that’s because you don’t understand the laws.

I don’t feel the contact was sufficient to be adjudged a foul and we’ll never know if the referee would agree because Salah cheated to make it look worse than it was.

posted on 21/4/19

comment by Winston (U16525)
posted 4 minutes ago
I’m not debating that point, I’m telling you that you’re wrong to claim the Newcastle incident was 100% a foul and that’s because you don’t understand the laws.

I don’t feel the contact was sufficient to be adjudged a foul and we’ll never know if the referee would agree because Salah cheated to make it look worse than it was.
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You can go back to the other articles and 397 pages to see my views on that.

But yeah I agree Salah cheated and went down when he didn't need to, as all players in his position would have. The reason has been made clear to you on why players do so. They don't get the foul otherwise. This was proven when Salah was fouled earlier in the season and didnt get the foul, luckily he went on and scored so he wasn't punished for being fouled.

posted on 21/4/19

You can try to justify it all you like.

His cheating meant we don’t know if the referee would have adjudged it sufficient contact for it to be a foul.

And yes, I know your flawed views on it. Quite how you’ve debated the subject for so long without bothering to read the laws is amazing.

posted on 21/4/19

“His cheating meant we don’t know if the referee would have adjudged it sufficient contact for it to be a foul.”

Well we do because he gave the pen. Regardless of how Salah went down it was a foul and a pen. There wasn’t much debate about it amongst pundits and the media, along with an ex ref, because they thought it was a pen. Unless they all don’t know the rules or something?

Equally there have been instances of Salah being fouled and not getting anything. The most recent being Luiz in the Chelsea game last week. It was a foul and should’ve been a pen. But because Salah over did going down the ref didn’t give it. Funnily enough rival fans were screaming dive about it as well

The debate about Salah is daft anyway. We’ve had 6 pens all season. If you follow rival fan logic (I know) it should’ve only been 2 or 3 as the rest were dives. Meanwhile United have had how many?

posted on 21/4/19

I couldn't care less if Salah, or any other player, cheats as much as humanly possible and even more than that gets away with it.

You have got to be a d!ckless geek with zero game experience at a decent level to go on thinking you know what's going through the players minds, howuch the meant things let alone exaggerated in a split second moment of a high pressure situation. Incredible arrogance.

posted on 21/4/19

comment by FieldsofAnnieRd (U18971)
posted 43 minutes ago
“His cheating meant we don’t know if the referee would have adjudged it sufficient contact for it to be a foul.”

Well we do because he gave the pen. Regardless of how Salah went down it was a foul and a pen. There wasn’t much debate about it amongst pundits and the media, along with an ex ref, because they thought it was a pen. Unless they all don’t know the rules or something?

Equally there have been instances of Salah being fouled and not getting anything. The most recent being Luiz in the Chelsea game last week. It was a foul and should’ve been a pen. But because Salah over did going down the ref didn’t give it. Funnily enough rival fans were screaming dive about it as well

The debate about Salah is daft anyway. We’ve had 6 pens all season. If you follow rival fan logic (I know) it should’ve only been 2 or 3 as the rest were dives. Meanwhile United have had how many?
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He may not have given the pen had Salah not dived.

It really is that simple.

There’s no justification for diving and the attempt by TOOR is flawed for multiple reasons.

posted on 21/4/19

“He may not have given the pen had Salah not dived.”

He didn’t dive. It really is that simple.

https://www.themag.co.uk/2018/12/former-top-referee-rules-on-liverpool-v-newcastle-controversial-incident-dermot-gallagher-newcastle-united/

Former refs eh, what would they know about the rules and stuff?

posted on 21/4/19

comment by FieldsofAnnieRd (U18971)
posted 30 seconds ago
“He may not have given the pen had Salah not dived.”

He didn’t dive. It really is that simple.

https://www.themag.co.uk/2018/12/former-top-referee-rules-on-liverpool-v-newcastle-controversial-incident-dermot-gallagher-newcastle-united/

Former refs eh, what would they know about the rules and stuff?
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That’s his opinion.

Doesn’t change my point.

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