comment by Wieghorst (U12621)
posted 29 seconds ago
If it had not been for the euro run.... and Celtic being minging for large parts of the season Stevie would have been hounded out by now. Had Celtic not dropped lots of points early doors we could have been well ahead by the first OF game.
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If.

If.

If.

If.......😩

If Rangers had been better they might have won something, ach well sod all again this year FACT

Rangers lost 6 more games than Celtic in the league last year.

This year we have lost 1 more.

Dress it up all you like - that is progress👍

comment by NNH (U10730)
posted 4 minutes ago
Not with you BN, you're one of the few with eyes wide open
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Just not lowering my expectations for the club.

Common sense might dictate otherwise but fook that.

Yees had better cup runs down the leagues fs

Progress ? More like regress from Celtic. Hey if your happy im happy bud

Celtic's in's:

Scotland Charlie Mulgrew
South Korea Cha Du-Ri
Wales Joe Ledley
Republic of Ireland Daryl Murphy
Mexico Efraín Juárez
England Gary Hooper
Israel Beram Kayal
Sweden Daniel Majstorović
Honduras Emilio Izaguirre
England Fraser Forster
Republic of Ireland Anthony Stokes
Australia Nicky Feely
France Olivier Kapo
Sweden Freddie Ljungberg
Scotland Tony Watt
Scotland Kris Commons

total - 16

Celtic's outs:

Scotland Mark Millar
Scotland Jason Marr
England Lee Naylor
China Zheng Zhi
Japan Koki Mizuno
Italy Luca Santonocito
Northern Ireland Daniel Lafferty
Scotland Stephen McManus
Republic of Ireland Graham Carey
Poland Artur Boruc
Scotland Paul McGowan
Scotland Grant Gallagher
Scotland Simon Ferry
Scotland Paul Caddis
Republic of Ireland Aiden McGeady
Republic of Ireland Cillian Sheridan
Scotland Charlie Grant
Republic of Ireland Darren O'Dea
England Ben Hutchinson
Denmark Morten Rasmussen
England Josh Thompson
France Marc-Antoine Fortuné
Scotland Ryan Conroy
England John Marsden
Scotland Sean Fitzharris
Czech Republic Milan Mišůn
Scotland Declan Gallacher
Italy Daniele Giordano
United States Dominic Cervi
Scotland Jason Marr
Netherlands Jos Hooiveld
France Olivier Kapo
Republic of Ireland Richie Towell
Czech Republic Milan Mišůn
Denmark Morten Rasmussen
Spain Marc Crosas
Latvia Antons Kurakins

Total - 37

Total turnaround of 53.

Rangers in's:

Canada Scott Arfield
Scotland Allan McGregor
Scotland Jamie Murphy
Croatia Nikola Katić
England Connor Goldson
England Jon Flanagan
Croatia Borna Barišić
Northern Ireland Kyle Lafferty
Albania Eros Grezda
Northern Ireland Gareth McAuley
England Andy Firth
United States Matt Polster
Finland Glen Kamara
England Ovie Ejaria
Nigeria Umar Sadiq
Mali Lassana Coulibaly
England Ryan Kent
England Joe Worrall
England Jermain Defoe
Northern Ireland Steven Davis

Total - 20

Rangers outs:

Scotland Kenny Miller
Scotland David Bates
Northern Ireland Jordan Thompson
Scotland Liam Kelly
Scotland Michael O'Halloran
Portugal Bruno Alves
England Harry Forrester
Portugal Fábio Cardoso
Wales Declan John
England Josh Windass
Mexico Carlos Peña
Mexico Carlos Peña
Ghana Joe Dodoo
Scotland Jason Holt
Scotland Ryan Hardie
Mexico Eduardo Herrera
Scotland Kieran Wright
Scotland Aidan Wilson
Scotland Greg Docherty
Scotland Jamie Barjonas
Northern Ireland Lee Hodson
Malta Myles Beerman
Scotland Liam Burt
England Jak Alnwick
Scotland Zak Rudden
Scotland Kyle Bradley
Mexico Eduardo Herrera
Malta Myles Beerman
Scotland Robby McCrorie
Scotland Andrew Dallas
Scotland Jamie Barjonas
England Jordan Rossiter
Scotland Jordan Houston
Finland Serge Atakayi

Total 34

Total turnaround of 54

Granted, both of those squads have had youth players in there.

1 player a difference though.

comment by Wieghorst (U12621)
posted 35 seconds ago
Yees had better cup runs down the leagues fs
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That’s the nature of cup runs.

ICT won it a few years ago after beating Falkirk in the final.

That’s what can happen in cups.

True.

Here i thought Kapo was decent then never to be seen again. Mental the amount of players that come in and out with out doing a great deal

That’s what can happen in cups


If your team is rotten then yes i agree.

comment by NNH (U10730)
posted 15 seconds ago
Celtic's in's:

Scotland Charlie Mulgrew
South Korea Cha Du-Ri
Wales Joe Ledley
Republic of Ireland Daryl Murphy
Mexico Efraín Juárez
England Gary Hooper
Israel Beram Kayal
Sweden Daniel Majstorović
Honduras Emilio Izaguirre
England Fraser Forster
Republic of Ireland Anthony Stokes
Australia Nicky Feely
France Olivier Kapo
Sweden Freddie Ljungberg
Scotland Tony Watt
Scotland Kris Commons

total - 16

Celtic's outs:

Scotland Mark Millar
Scotland Jason Marr
England Lee Naylor
China Zheng Zhi
Japan Koki Mizuno
Italy Luca Santonocito
Northern Ireland Daniel Lafferty
Scotland Stephen McManus
Republic of Ireland Graham Carey
Poland Artur Boruc
Scotland Paul McGowan
Scotland Grant Gallagher
Scotland Simon Ferry
Scotland Paul Caddis
Republic of Ireland Aiden McGeady
Republic of Ireland Cillian Sheridan
Scotland Charlie Grant
Republic of Ireland Darren O'Dea
England Ben Hutchinson
Denmark Morten Rasmussen
England Josh Thompson
France Marc-Antoine Fortuné
Scotland Ryan Conroy
England John Marsden
Scotland Sean Fitzharris
Czech Republic Milan Mišůn
Scotland Declan Gallacher
Italy Daniele Giordano
United States Dominic Cervi
Scotland Jason Marr
Netherlands Jos Hooiveld
France Olivier Kapo
Republic of Ireland Richie Towell
Czech Republic Milan Mišůn
Denmark Morten Rasmussen
Spain Marc Crosas
Latvia Antons Kurakins

Total - 37

Total turnaround of 53.

Rangers in's:

Canada Scott Arfield
Scotland Allan McGregor
Scotland Jamie Murphy
Croatia Nikola Katić
England Connor Goldson
England Jon Flanagan
Croatia Borna Barišić
Northern Ireland Kyle Lafferty
Albania Eros Grezda
Northern Ireland Gareth McAuley
England Andy Firth
United States Matt Polster
Finland Glen Kamara
England Ovie Ejaria
Nigeria Umar Sadiq
Mali Lassana Coulibaly
England Ryan Kent
England Joe Worrall
England Jermain Defoe
Northern Ireland Steven Davis

Total - 20

Rangers outs:

Scotland Kenny Miller
Scotland David Bates
Northern Ireland Jordan Thompson
Scotland Liam Kelly
Scotland Michael O'Halloran
Portugal Bruno Alves
England Harry Forrester
Portugal Fábio Cardoso
Wales Declan John
England Josh Windass
Mexico Carlos Peña
Mexico Carlos Peña
Ghana Joe Dodoo
Scotland Jason Holt
Scotland Ryan Hardie
Mexico Eduardo Herrera
Scotland Kieran Wright
Scotland Aidan Wilson
Scotland Greg Docherty
Scotland Jamie Barjonas
Northern Ireland Lee Hodson
Malta Myles Beerman
Scotland Liam Burt
England Jak Alnwick
Scotland Zak Rudden
Scotland Kyle Bradley
Mexico Eduardo Herrera
Malta Myles Beerman
Scotland Robby McCrorie
Scotland Andrew Dallas
Scotland Jamie Barjonas
England Jordan Rossiter
Scotland Jordan Houston
Finland Serge Atakayi

Total 34

Total turnaround of 54

Granted, both of those squads have had youth players in there.

1 player a difference though.

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Pena is in there twice.

This isn’t the main point btw but congrats for going to all the bother. This is over two transfer windows btw

The point is the circumstances were not the same.

If the numbers are the same then fair dos.

But the point stands that Gers were in a state when SG came in and he’s done well.

If Lennon did a similar good job or better in similar circumstances then well done Lenny👍

A simple, i was wrong, you were right, i made an erse of the argument would have sufficed mate

comment by NNH (U10730)
posted 11 seconds ago
A simple, i was wrong, you were right, i made an erse of the argument would have sufficed mate
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I made an erase of the argument?

Ok 👍 if you say so.

So Lennon had no experience of Celtic fc or of the SPL when he was appointed?

You have taken one bit of my argument and produced an impressive set of data- and I have already said fair dos to that.

But it wasn’t the whole argument.

Plus the point I made was the turn around of players SG had in the first couple of months.

Not six months.

I have no idea what Celtics turnaround of players was in the first couple of months under Lennon. But SG had to come in asses, empty and then replace almost an entire squad in a couple of months.

Point is I think he did a decent job in the circumstances.

If Lennon did the same then well done to him too👍

I don't really care about comparing SG to Lennon when he came in at first tbh.

I am far more concerned with comparing rangers of recent seasons to this season and looking forward to next

Word is that SG will be looking for more loans / youths from Liverpool. That a good thing?

comment by Wieghorst (U12621)
posted 32 seconds ago
Word is that SG will be looking for more loans / youths from Liverpool. That a good thing?
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Generally not in favour of developing other teams players with no option to buy. We have arguably added about £3-4m on to Kents value this season and we will get nothing for it.

But if it is the only way we can get a player with that extra quality and it helps us win the league it is hard to be too disapproving.

Everyone uses the loan system these days so there is no real reason why we should be any different.

I don't really care about comparing SG to Lennon when he came in at first tbh.


Likely because it blows your polishing of a jobby this season out the water.

Fact is, Rangers will have expected much more from gerrard this season than 0 trophies, 0 cup finals and just 1 win in an OF game, obviously 1 OF game to go so he may get to share the spoils of the OF cup trophy.

comment by NNH (U10730)
posted 1 minute ago
I don't really care about comparing SG to Lennon when he came in at first tbh.


Likely because it blows your polishing of a jobby this season out the water.

Fact is, Rangers will have expected much more from gerrard this season than 0 trophies, 0 cup finals and just 1 win in an OF game, obviously 1 OF game to go so he may get to share the spoils of the OF cup trophy.
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I have been pretty clear about my expectations since the start of the season.

Europe - exceeded
League - on target to meet
Cups - a disappointment but never a priority.


Plus I never listed in there 'Do as well as NL did when he first took over at celtic'.

Know why I never put that in there?

Because I couldn't give a flook.

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The only way Rangers will have a significant player budget is if we sell Morelos.

If we don't I only expect us to spend £2-3m tops net with possibly a bit more if we qualify for the Europa group stages.

And I would expect 2 young Liverpool players to come in Woodburn is one SG likes and he is a realistic possibility for next season.

comment by Hot Shot Hamish (U21959)
posted 13 minutes ago
The only way Rangers will have a significant player budget is if we sell Morelos.

If we don't I only expect us to spend £2-3m tops net with possibly a bit more if we qualify for the Europa group stages.

And I would expect 2 young Liverpool players to come in Woodburn is one SG likes and he is a realistic possibility for next season.
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The flaw in your argument is Morelos. You'll get never get near the numbers you stated for him.

Your only chance of getting more than £5m is if Lee Congerton gets a chief scout job with some club that asks him to blow a war chest.

Rangers need 3 players of real quality and that costs money that they don't have......also not taken in to the equation is the possible improvement Celtic may have with 2 or 3 quality additions and we do have the money...all about he recruitment as always! The 3 signings on pre- contract are squad players only. I think Morelos and Kent will be away and that is a huge gap to fill and are not included in the 3 players of real quality as nothing confirmed but could be 4 or 5 if these guys go. I also don't think we will be as poor next season and this feels like an opportunity missed by Rangers, like Delia's 2nd season was with Aberdeen They never got as close again

comment by 7returns (U12006)
posted 30 minutes ago
Rangers need 3 players of real quality and that costs money that they don't have......also not taken in to the equation is the possible improvement Celtic may have with 2 or 3 quality additions and we do have the money...all about he recruitment as always! The 3 signings on pre- contract are squad players only. I think Morelos and Kent will be away and that is a huge gap to fill and are not included in the 3 players of real quality as nothing confirmed but could be 4 or 5 if these guys go. I also don't think we will be as poor next season and this feels like an opportunity missed by Rangers, like Delia's 2nd season was with AberdeenThey never got as close again
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I have stated all along it depends on what celtic do.

We are obviously all optimistic about our recruitment - but it is conceivable celtic may not get it entirely right.

Bayo, Toljan, Burke and Weah were Celtics last 4 signings. And at the end of the season they will most likely be remembered as players that contributed very little.

Celtic have had some outstanding successes in recent years but they are not immune from failure in the transfer market either. They are every bit as likely to get it wrong as we are.

And Celtic fans don't need told it is not always about the money. Coulibally cost Angers £2m and has turned out to be no more than a bench warmer for us, Kamara came in for £50k and has generally been excellent.

We got Arfield for free and he is a very decent player. Hastie will cost us £300k and may turn out to be a gem. Time will tell.

And as for Morelos' valuation. Give me a break.

If you seriously think a 22 year old 30 goal a season Colombian international striker - talked up by guys like James Rodriguez and Falcao as the future of the national team - is only worth £5m then good luck to you.

comment by Hot Shot Hamish (U21959)
posted 2 minutes ago
comment by 7returns (U12006)
posted 30 minutes ago
Rangers need 3 players of real quality and that costs money that they don't have......also not taken in to the equation is the possible improvement Celtic may have with 2 or 3 quality additions and we do have the money...all about he recruitment as always! The 3 signings on pre- contract are squad players only. I think Morelos and Kent will be away and that is a huge gap to fill and are not included in the 3 players of real quality as nothing confirmed but could be 4 or 5 if these guys go. I also don't think we will be as poor next season and this feels like an opportunity missed by Rangers, like Delia's 2nd season was with AberdeenThey never got as close again
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I have stated all along it depends on what celtic do.

We are obviously all optimistic about our recruitment - but it is conceivable celtic may not get it entirely right.

Bayo, Toljan, Burke and Weah were Celtics last 4 signings. And at the end of the season they will most likely be remembered as players that contributed very little.

Celtic have had some outstanding successes in recent years but they are not immune from failure in the transfer market either. They are every bit as likely to get it wrong as we are.

And Celtic fans don't need told it is not always about the money. Coulibally cost Angers £2m and has turned out to be no more than a bench warmer for us, Kamara came in for £50k and has generally been excellent.

We got Arfield for free and he is a very decent player. Hastie will cost us £300k and may turn out to be a gem. Time will tell.

And as for Morelos' valuation. Give me a break.

If you seriously think a 22 year old 30 goal a season Colombian international striker - talked up by guys like James Rodriguez and Falcao as the future of the national team - is only worth £5m then good luck to you.
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How many minutes has he played for Colombia and what's his ratio of embarrassing misses to minutes on the pitch.

Other clubs don't buy rangers players for big money any more.

Time will tell as always. Imo he's a donkey...have said it from day one and stand by it. I also predicted that your performances and results would be better without him.

If you could get the same points conversion rate with him in the team, you'd be well clear in the league. That's a fact.