It’s be more fun if instead of automatic promotion and relegation, the top 4 of the championship went into playoffs against the bottom 4 of the premier league,
In IPL it is a little different.
3rd and 4th play each other and winner goes to final
5th and 6th play each other and winner plays loser of 3rd and 4th place to get into the final.
Essentially the team that finishes 3rd has 2 bites at the cherry.
It's just a weird money-making circus. Totally unnecessary.
Kind of like the champions league. Liverpool and Spurs haven't won the league for years but they get to compete in the champions league final.
comment by Dubbed the new Part Time City fan (U21076)
posted 55 seconds ago
Kind of like the champions league. Liverpool and Spurs haven't won the league for years but they get to compete in the champions league final.
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comment by Dubbed the new Part Time City fan (U21076)
posted 26 minutes ago
Kind of like the champions league. Liverpool and Spurs haven't won the league for years but they get to compete in the champions league final.
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This.
But it's wonderful to be a Derby fan this morning.
Maybe more fair if it was like this.
6th plays 5th away.
Winner plays 4th away.
Winner plays 3rd in final at Wembley.
comment by Hod idol the x factor - Mo's posh tin set! (U5117)
posted 1 minute ago
Maybe more fair if it was like this.
6th plays 5th away.
Winner plays 4th away.
Winner plays 3rd in final at Wembley.
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Nah, much to sensible for the idiots that run football.
........... and the last game should be at home for the team finishing 3rd., (not at Wembley).
Fecking PO final ticket prices are a joke as well.
The team in 3rd get's to play points wise the weakest side out the 4. Should be a formality but if you bomb against the likes of Wigan, QPR and already relegated Ipswich then it makes it more interesting. That's football.
As I've said previously I would have the top 3 from the PL and the top 3 from the Championship switch places. Then it would be a play off between 4th, 5th and 6th in the Championship against 17th in the PL. Maybe 5th and 6th play each other first, the winner of that plays 4th and then the winner of that plays 17th from PL.
However you work it I do think there should be the potential for 4 teams to go up/come down.
By far the most logical effort would be a round robin between the four with 3rd through 6th starting with 4-3-2-1 points.
The finalist would play the same amount of games (3)
comment by (kash) I'm the Mané (U1108)
posted 5 hours, 43 minutes ago
In IPL it is a little different.
3rd and 4th play each other and winner goes to final
5th and 6th play each other and winner plays loser of 3rd and 4th place to get into the final.
Essentially the team that finishes 3rd has 2 bites at the cherry.
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This. Double elimination makes sense.
Good for entertainment and the 2 Championship PO's really do emphasise that, so it's unlikely to ever change because that alone will bring in a load of cash.
Although I do agree on principle that the top 3 teams should be promoted. I know the PO's give more teams a chance, but Leeds, Norwich and Sheff United have been switching around from 1st, 2nd and 3rd all season and have clearly been the best 3 teams in the league so they all probably deserve to go up on that basis. But that's not how it works.
I mean on a personal level I'm glad Leeds haven't gone up but still.
comment by Grand Cannon (U18697)
posted 7 hours, 46 minutes ago
It's just a weird money-making circus. Totally unnecessary.
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Probably correct! However, there are already too many games throughout the season. Setting aside the financial greed, I think the home-away format is stupid. 3rd. and 4th. teams should have home advantage for single knock-out, with winning teams playing single game at stadium of team with best league record!
It is fair in that it is known before the season starts.
It does keep the season alive until the death as well.
Yes, for the Championship you can argue about greed, as it is a money spinner. But play offs happen down through to the non-leagues so it isnt the key factor.
At the end of the day sport is entertainment. And the play offs are arguably the most entertaining part of a season.
I agree with the 5th v 6th to play 4th with the winner playing 3rd in one leg ties format. Higher placed team with home advantage. Makes s lot of sense.
Play-offs don't make a lot of sense until you sit and watch them. Always entertaining games, especially the second legs.
comment by RonAlvinho - Victoria Concordia Pathetic (U6117)
posted 3 hours, 35 minutes ago
Play-offs don't make a lot of sense until you sit and watch them. Always entertaining games, especially the second legs.
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Even friendlies can be entertaining. That's not the point. Why should a team that finished 6th be promoted ahead of one that finished 3rd?
The idea I really dislike is the playoff between (for instance) the 3rd place championship team and the 18th place Prem team.
Imagine if you had a play off for 4th CL spot
or a relegation play off to avoid 18th place
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posted on 16/5/19
It’s be more fun if instead of automatic promotion and relegation, the top 4 of the championship went into playoffs against the bottom 4 of the premier league,
posted on 16/5/19
In IPL it is a little different.
3rd and 4th play each other and winner goes to final
5th and 6th play each other and winner plays loser of 3rd and 4th place to get into the final.
Essentially the team that finishes 3rd has 2 bites at the cherry.
posted on 16/5/19
It's just a weird money-making circus. Totally unnecessary.
posted on 16/5/19
Kind of like the champions league. Liverpool and Spurs haven't won the league for years but they get to compete in the champions league final.
posted on 16/5/19
comment by Dubbed the new Part Time City fan (U21076)
posted 55 seconds ago
Kind of like the champions league. Liverpool and Spurs haven't won the league for years but they get to compete in the champions league final.
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posted on 16/5/19
comment by Dubbed the new Part Time City fan (U21076)
posted 26 minutes ago
Kind of like the champions league. Liverpool and Spurs haven't won the league for years but they get to compete in the champions league final.
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This.
But it's wonderful to be a Derby fan this morning.
posted on 16/5/19
Maybe more fair if it was like this.
6th plays 5th away.
Winner plays 4th away.
Winner plays 3rd in final at Wembley.
posted on 16/5/19
comment by Hod idol the x factor - Mo's posh tin set! (U5117)
posted 1 minute ago
Maybe more fair if it was like this.
6th plays 5th away.
Winner plays 4th away.
Winner plays 3rd in final at Wembley.
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Nah, much to sensible for the idiots that run football.
posted on 16/5/19
........... and the last game should be at home for the team finishing 3rd., (not at Wembley).
Fecking PO final ticket prices are a joke as well.
posted on 16/5/19
The team in 3rd get's to play points wise the weakest side out the 4. Should be a formality but if you bomb against the likes of Wigan, QPR and already relegated Ipswich then it makes it more interesting. That's football.
As I've said previously I would have the top 3 from the PL and the top 3 from the Championship switch places. Then it would be a play off between 4th, 5th and 6th in the Championship against 17th in the PL. Maybe 5th and 6th play each other first, the winner of that plays 4th and then the winner of that plays 17th from PL.
However you work it I do think there should be the potential for 4 teams to go up/come down.
posted on 16/5/19
By far the most logical effort would be a round robin between the four with 3rd through 6th starting with 4-3-2-1 points.
The finalist would play the same amount of games (3)
posted on 16/5/19
comment by (kash) I'm the Mané (U1108)
posted 5 hours, 43 minutes ago
In IPL it is a little different.
3rd and 4th play each other and winner goes to final
5th and 6th play each other and winner plays loser of 3rd and 4th place to get into the final.
Essentially the team that finishes 3rd has 2 bites at the cherry.
----------------------------------------------------------------------
This. Double elimination makes sense.
posted on 16/5/19
Good for entertainment and the 2 Championship PO's really do emphasise that, so it's unlikely to ever change because that alone will bring in a load of cash.
Although I do agree on principle that the top 3 teams should be promoted. I know the PO's give more teams a chance, but Leeds, Norwich and Sheff United have been switching around from 1st, 2nd and 3rd all season and have clearly been the best 3 teams in the league so they all probably deserve to go up on that basis. But that's not how it works.
I mean on a personal level I'm glad Leeds haven't gone up but still.
posted on 16/5/19
comment by Grand Cannon (U18697)
posted 7 hours, 46 minutes ago
It's just a weird money-making circus. Totally unnecessary.
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Probably correct! However, there are already too many games throughout the season. Setting aside the financial greed, I think the home-away format is stupid. 3rd. and 4th. teams should have home advantage for single knock-out, with winning teams playing single game at stadium of team with best league record!
posted on 16/5/19
It is fair in that it is known before the season starts.
It does keep the season alive until the death as well.
Yes, for the Championship you can argue about greed, as it is a money spinner. But play offs happen down through to the non-leagues so it isnt the key factor.
At the end of the day sport is entertainment. And the play offs are arguably the most entertaining part of a season.
I agree with the 5th v 6th to play 4th with the winner playing 3rd in one leg ties format. Higher placed team with home advantage. Makes s lot of sense.
posted on 16/5/19
Play-offs don't make a lot of sense until you sit and watch them. Always entertaining games, especially the second legs.
posted on 17/5/19
comment by RonAlvinho - Victoria Concordia Pathetic (U6117)
posted 3 hours, 35 minutes ago
Play-offs don't make a lot of sense until you sit and watch them. Always entertaining games, especially the second legs.
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Even friendlies can be entertaining. That's not the point. Why should a team that finished 6th be promoted ahead of one that finished 3rd?
posted on 17/5/19
The idea I really dislike is the playoff between (for instance) the 3rd place championship team and the 18th place Prem team.
posted on 17/5/19
Imagine if you had a play off for 4th CL spot
or a relegation play off to avoid 18th place
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