To be honest I can't see there ever being a bilateral UK FTA with the US. It may be we'll scale up some of our existing MRAs (mutual recognition agreements) with the states which could then be advertised as a brand new shiny FTA.
Rats. Good to see you back on mate.
Specially if it's only briefly
comment by What would Stuart Pearce do? Better than Gozer the Gozerian (U3126)
posted 1 minute ago
To be honest I can't see there ever being a bilateral UK FTA with the US. It may be we'll scale up some of our existing MRAs (mutual recognition agreements) with the states which could then be advertised as a brand new shiny FTA.
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This
comment by Magnum (U16400)
posted 1 minute ago
Rats. Good to see you back on mate.
Specially if it's only briefly
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Cheers Mags
I think
I like the Iceland chicken pakora
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comment by Magnum (U16400)
posted 1 hour, 54 minutes ago
comment by What would Stuart Pearce do? Better than Gozer the Gozerian (U3126)
posted 9 minutes ago
No deal isn't really an option. As if it happened the government would have to (within days) go back to the EU to sort out the chaos which would ensue.
Talk is always about trade but no-one (of the Brexiteers) considers things like counter-terrorism, national security etc. Shared databases which give real time info on threats.
Can you imagine if someone got into the UK who was on the SIS2 database:
https://ec.europa.eu/home-affairs/what-we-do/policies/borders-and-visas/schengen-information-system_en
..and was not picked up by UK authorities because they no longer had access to SIS. Who went on to carry out an attack.
There are a host of other areas in which cooperation with the EU is required yet never are these issues raised when the headbangers harp on about "a WTO Brexit"
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You taking that Ginger?
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Get intae thum
comment by BlueNose (U6456)
posted 1 hour, 36 minutes ago
I like the Iceland chicken pakora
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Racist.
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comment by lexballielegend (U8325)
posted 3 hours, 53 minutes ago
Problem is Scotland could be ripped to shreds and treated like utter dug schite by Westminster and there are pro- unionists (OO types) who just wont vote for Indy, no union no cause for them, nothing to march for etc...cant ever change the mindset of those types so entrenched in their ways.
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There are orange lodges in Eire with no Queenie or union....the orange in Scotland is not that strong or numerous to influence the Indy vote that much.
People just like the UK and feel part of a wider family.
With devo we can be happy and this applies to regions in England too unhappy from globalist remain elite London.🙂
TBBAB
You would really be surprised just how many people in Scotland want the Union to remain the way it is - and only for daft reasons.
Course no deal is an option.
In fact it’s the default position so unless parliament agree on a deal which in turn the EU have to agree to (fat chance on both counts), we revoke Article 50 (not a chance) or we get another extension (go Macron) then we leave with no deal.
Why is that so difficult to understand?
And then of course you will see us AND the EU scuttle and arrange at least a status quo in trading until a proper alternative deal is agreed (which will take years).
Ludicrous to think that isn’t as likely scenario as any other.
Sakes.
comment by Gingernuts (U2992)
posted 3 minutes ago
Course no deal is an option.
In fact it’s the default position so unless parliament agree on a deal which in turn the EU have to agree to (fat chance on both counts), we revoke Article 50 (not a chance) or we get another extension (go Macron) then we leave with no deal.
Why is that so difficult to understand?
And then of course you will see us AND the EU scuttle and arrange at least a status quo in trading until a proper alternative deal is agreed (which will take years).
Ludicrous to think that isn’t as likely scenario as any other.
Sakes.
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Agreed.
Even lunatic zealots have to get pragmatic when they've exhausted all other options. Simple practicalities and they'll agree anything that won't get them unelected.
Should have been our clear position once the referendum result was known. We wouldn't be in this mess if we had been clear on that
comment by Magnum (U16400)
posted 1 minute ago
comment by Gingernuts (U2992)
posted 3 minutes ago
Course no deal is an option.
In fact it’s the default position so unless parliament agree on a deal which in turn the EU have to agree to (fat chance on both counts), we revoke Article 50 (not a chance) or we get another extension (go Macron) then we leave with no deal.
Why is that so difficult to understand?
And then of course you will see us AND the EU scuttle and arrange at least a status quo in trading until a proper alternative deal is agreed (which will take years).
Ludicrous to think that isn’t as likely scenario as any other.
Sakes.
----------------------------------------------------------------------
Agreed.
Even lunatic zealots have to get pragmatic when they've exhausted all other options. Simple practicalities and they'll agree anything that won't get them unelected.
Should have been our clear position once the referendum result was known. We wouldn't be in this mess if we had been clear on that
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Here here
comment by Gingernuts (U2992)
posted 8 minutes ago
comment by Magnum (U16400)
posted 1 minute ago
comment by Gingernuts (U2992)
posted 3 minutes ago
Course no deal is an option.
In fact it’s the default position so unless parliament agree on a deal which in turn the EU have to agree to (fat chance on both counts), we revoke Article 50 (not a chance) or we get another extension (go Macron) then we leave with no deal.
Why is that so difficult to understand?
And then of course you will see us AND the EU scuttle and arrange at least a status quo in trading until a proper alternative deal is agreed (which will take years).
Ludicrous to think that isn’t as likely scenario as any other.
Sakes.
----------------------------------------------------------------------
Agreed.
Even lunatic zealots have to get pragmatic when they've exhausted all other options. Simple practicalities and they'll agree anything that won't get them unelected.
Should have been our clear position once the referendum result was known. We wouldn't be in this mess if we had been clear on that
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Here here
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It was like we walked into a meeting and said 'my boss told me if I don't get this deal done I'm getting fired'
'Is that right wee man...'
Zoomers
comment by Zico♡ (U21900)
posted 28 minutes ago
TBBAB
You would really be surprised just how many people in Scotland want the Union to remain the way it is - and only for daft reasons.
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I know bud And not a million years ago I had similar out there views about the "cause " etc, then I backed Ulster Independence from London and Dublin, so I get the crazy angle@@.😉😊
comment by Gingernuts (U2992)
posted 13 minutes ago
comment by Magnum (U16400)
posted 1 minute ago
comment by Gingernuts (U2992)
posted 3 minutes ago
Course no deal is an option.
In fact it’s the default position so unless parliament agree on a deal which in turn the EU have to agree to (fat chance on both counts), we revoke Article 50 (not a chance) or we get another extension (go Macron) then we leave with no deal.
Why is that so difficult to understand?
And then of course you will see us AND the EU scuttle and arrange at least a status quo in trading until a proper alternative deal is agreed (which will take years).
Ludicrous to think that isn’t as likely scenario as any other.
Sakes.
----------------------------------------------------------------------
Agreed.
Even lunatic zealots have to get pragmatic when they've exhausted all other options. Simple practicalities and they'll agree anything that won't get them unelected.
Should have been our clear position once the referendum result was known. We wouldn't be in this mess if we had been clear on that
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Here here
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Can I be leave again?🤔
comment by Gingernuts (U2992)
posted 24 minutes ago
Course no deal is an option.
In fact it’s the default position so unless parliament agree on a deal which in turn the EU have to agree to (fat chance on both counts), we revoke Article 50 (not a chance) or we get another extension (go Macron) then we leave with no deal.
Why is that so difficult to understand?
And then of course you will see us AND the EU scuttle and arrange at least a status quo in trading until a proper alternative deal is agreed (which will take years).
Ludicrous to think that isn’t as likely scenario as any other.
Sakes.
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No deal is not only a legal default...it may be the first choice of Macron and other eu states fed up with May and Brexit
Frankly, and I am not a believer, but the NI deal brexit is the only real brexit and the May Brussels WA was awful...pay with no say and a daft backstop.
Better off in than May WA
I agree with that tbbab
Was a truly shocking attempt at a compromise.
As ion there wasn’t one. It was just a form of surrender.
comment by Gingernuts (U2992)
posted 34 seconds ago
I agree with that tbbab
Was a truly shocking attempt at a compromise.
As ion there wasn’t one. It was just a form of surrender.
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At first with Chequers I saw a compromise and soft brexit Was I wanted leave respected democratically, but an acknowledgement 48% were remain.
But looking into the May WA and it was worse than remain...so I was torn and briefly thought, Fook it no deal go hard Mrs.😍
But that was cutting our nose off to spite the face stuff, imo...could be wrong as some say WTO and no deal could work after a short recession.
Like many than Ulster Scot types, part of me and others voting leave was two fingers to the man, to the banks and Cameron and Establishment, but I never thought we would win.
It was a protest vote about Brussels and a lot of other stuff not eu connected, and I had no plan or clue where brexit Would go.
Neither did anyone else....therein lies our problem.
Sipping Scottish Belheather lager for the first time here and it is ok.
Trying all sorts of beer now from Guinness to John Smith to Smithwicks Blonde to hoegarden or summat and caffreys.
What is he verdict on Belheather...as I only drank heavy in glasgow.Is it a soft drink?
comment by thebluebellsarablue (U9292)
posted 14 minutes ago
comment by Gingernuts (U2992)
posted 34 seconds ago
I agree with that tbbab
Was a truly shocking attempt at a compromise.
As ion there wasn’t one. It was just a form of surrender.
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At first with Chequers I saw a compromise and soft brexit Was I wanted leave respected democratically, but an acknowledgement 48% were remain.
But looking into the May WA and it was worse than remain...so I was torn and briefly thought, Fook it no deal go hard Mrs.😍
But that was cutting our nose off to spite the face stuff, imo...could be wrong as some say WTO and no deal could work after a short recession.
Like many than Ulster Scot types, part of me and others voting leave was two fingers to the man, to the banks and Cameron and Establishment, but I never thought we would win.
It was a protest vote about Brussels and a lot of other stuff not eu connected, and I had no plan or clue where brexit Would go.
Neither did anyone else....therein lies our problem.
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Sorry but I want out of the EU and all it’s machinations. It’s a failed experiment doomed to break apart in our lifetime. You cannot take such diverse cultures, standards, ways of life and history and stick them all together and hope nobody minds while the elected bodies vote their like minded chums in time after time.
They exist by rewarding and buying the loyalties of smaller countries who would struggle without the nett contributors bailing them out and building their infrastructure. When challenged those countries in turn simply back them because they’ve far too much to lose.
This will likely be the first time ever that the next president being voted in is a formality and look who now holds the ace card. Macron. Fwcking Macron.
The common market and policy was a breakthrough the trade barriers. Should have been left at that.
comment by Gingernuts (U2992)
posted 18 minutes ago
comment by thebluebellsarablue (U9292)
posted 14 minutes ago
comment by Gingernuts (U2992)
posted 34 seconds ago
I agree with that tbbab
Was a truly shocking attempt at a compromise.
As ion there wasn’t one. It was just a form of surrender.
----------------------------------------------------------------------
At first with Chequers I saw a compromise and soft brexit Was I wanted leave respected democratically, but an acknowledgement 48% were remain.
But looking into the May WA and it was worse than remain...so I was torn and briefly thought, Fook it no deal go hard Mrs.😍
But that was cutting our nose off to spite the face stuff, imo...could be wrong as some say WTO and no deal could work after a short recession.
Like many than Ulster Scot types, part of me and others voting leave was two fingers to the man, to the banks and Cameron and Establishment, but I never thought we would win.
It was a protest vote about Brussels and a lot of other stuff not eu connected, and I had no plan or clue where brexit Would go.
Neither did anyone else....therein lies our problem.
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Sorry but I want out of the EU and all it’s machinations. It’s a failed experiment doomed to break apart in our lifetime. You cannot take such diverse cultures, standards, ways of life and history and stick them all together and hope nobody minds while the elected bodies vote their like minded chums in time after time.
They exist by rewarding and buying the loyalties of smaller countries who would struggle without the nett contributors bailing them out and building their infrastructure. When challenged those countries in turn simply back them because they’ve far too much to lose.
This will likely be the first time ever that the next president being voted in is a formality and look who now holds the ace card. Macron. Fwcking Macron.
The common market and policy was a breakthrough the trade barriers. Should have been left at that.
----------------------------------------------------------------------
Largely agree mate.
Am still eurosceptic and cynical about them all.
I am surprised leave won but equally amused at the loyalty Brussels receives from the minions who in order to be not brexit ate stupidly ultra eu.
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posted on 24/5/19
To be honest I can't see there ever being a bilateral UK FTA with the US. It may be we'll scale up some of our existing MRAs (mutual recognition agreements) with the states which could then be advertised as a brand new shiny FTA.
posted on 24/5/19
Rats. Good to see you back on mate.
Specially if it's only briefly
posted on 24/5/19
comment by What would Stuart Pearce do? Better than Gozer the Gozerian (U3126)
posted 1 minute ago
To be honest I can't see there ever being a bilateral UK FTA with the US. It may be we'll scale up some of our existing MRAs (mutual recognition agreements) with the states which could then be advertised as a brand new shiny FTA.
----------------------------------------------------------------------
This
posted on 24/5/19
comment by Magnum (U16400)
posted 1 minute ago
Rats. Good to see you back on mate.
Specially if it's only briefly
----------------------------------------------------------------------
Cheers Mags
I think
posted on 24/5/19
I like the Iceland chicken pakora
posted on 24/5/19
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posted on 24/5/19
comment by Magnum (U16400)
posted 1 hour, 54 minutes ago
comment by What would Stuart Pearce do? Better than Gozer the Gozerian (U3126)
posted 9 minutes ago
No deal isn't really an option. As if it happened the government would have to (within days) go back to the EU to sort out the chaos which would ensue.
Talk is always about trade but no-one (of the Brexiteers) considers things like counter-terrorism, national security etc. Shared databases which give real time info on threats.
Can you imagine if someone got into the UK who was on the SIS2 database:
https://ec.europa.eu/home-affairs/what-we-do/policies/borders-and-visas/schengen-information-system_en
..and was not picked up by UK authorities because they no longer had access to SIS. Who went on to carry out an attack.
There are a host of other areas in which cooperation with the EU is required yet never are these issues raised when the headbangers harp on about "a WTO Brexit"
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You taking that Ginger?
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Get intae thum
posted on 24/5/19
comment by BlueNose (U6456)
posted 1 hour, 36 minutes ago
I like the Iceland chicken pakora
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Racist.
posted on 24/5/19
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posted on 24/5/19
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posted on 24/5/19
comment by lexballielegend (U8325)
posted 3 hours, 53 minutes ago
Problem is Scotland could be ripped to shreds and treated like utter dug schite by Westminster and there are pro- unionists (OO types) who just wont vote for Indy, no union no cause for them, nothing to march for etc...cant ever change the mindset of those types so entrenched in their ways.
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There are orange lodges in Eire with no Queenie or union....the orange in Scotland is not that strong or numerous to influence the Indy vote that much.
People just like the UK and feel part of a wider family.
With devo we can be happy and this applies to regions in England too unhappy from globalist remain elite London.🙂
posted on 24/5/19
TBBAB
You would really be surprised just how many people in Scotland want the Union to remain the way it is - and only for daft reasons.
posted on 24/5/19
Course no deal is an option.
In fact it’s the default position so unless parliament agree on a deal which in turn the EU have to agree to (fat chance on both counts), we revoke Article 50 (not a chance) or we get another extension (go Macron) then we leave with no deal.
Why is that so difficult to understand?
And then of course you will see us AND the EU scuttle and arrange at least a status quo in trading until a proper alternative deal is agreed (which will take years).
Ludicrous to think that isn’t as likely scenario as any other.
Sakes.
posted on 24/5/19
comment by Gingernuts (U2992)
posted 3 minutes ago
Course no deal is an option.
In fact it’s the default position so unless parliament agree on a deal which in turn the EU have to agree to (fat chance on both counts), we revoke Article 50 (not a chance) or we get another extension (go Macron) then we leave with no deal.
Why is that so difficult to understand?
And then of course you will see us AND the EU scuttle and arrange at least a status quo in trading until a proper alternative deal is agreed (which will take years).
Ludicrous to think that isn’t as likely scenario as any other.
Sakes.
----------------------------------------------------------------------
Agreed.
Even lunatic zealots have to get pragmatic when they've exhausted all other options. Simple practicalities and they'll agree anything that won't get them unelected.
Should have been our clear position once the referendum result was known. We wouldn't be in this mess if we had been clear on that
posted on 24/5/19
comment by Magnum (U16400)
posted 1 minute ago
comment by Gingernuts (U2992)
posted 3 minutes ago
Course no deal is an option.
In fact it’s the default position so unless parliament agree on a deal which in turn the EU have to agree to (fat chance on both counts), we revoke Article 50 (not a chance) or we get another extension (go Macron) then we leave with no deal.
Why is that so difficult to understand?
And then of course you will see us AND the EU scuttle and arrange at least a status quo in trading until a proper alternative deal is agreed (which will take years).
Ludicrous to think that isn’t as likely scenario as any other.
Sakes.
----------------------------------------------------------------------
Agreed.
Even lunatic zealots have to get pragmatic when they've exhausted all other options. Simple practicalities and they'll agree anything that won't get them unelected.
Should have been our clear position once the referendum result was known. We wouldn't be in this mess if we had been clear on that
----------------------------------------------------------------------
Here here
posted on 24/5/19
comment by Gingernuts (U2992)
posted 8 minutes ago
comment by Magnum (U16400)
posted 1 minute ago
comment by Gingernuts (U2992)
posted 3 minutes ago
Course no deal is an option.
In fact it’s the default position so unless parliament agree on a deal which in turn the EU have to agree to (fat chance on both counts), we revoke Article 50 (not a chance) or we get another extension (go Macron) then we leave with no deal.
Why is that so difficult to understand?
And then of course you will see us AND the EU scuttle and arrange at least a status quo in trading until a proper alternative deal is agreed (which will take years).
Ludicrous to think that isn’t as likely scenario as any other.
Sakes.
----------------------------------------------------------------------
Agreed.
Even lunatic zealots have to get pragmatic when they've exhausted all other options. Simple practicalities and they'll agree anything that won't get them unelected.
Should have been our clear position once the referendum result was known. We wouldn't be in this mess if we had been clear on that
----------------------------------------------------------------------
Here here
----------------------------------------------------------------------
It was like we walked into a meeting and said 'my boss told me if I don't get this deal done I'm getting fired'
'Is that right wee man...'
Zoomers
posted on 24/5/19
comment by Zico♡ (U21900)
posted 28 minutes ago
TBBAB
You would really be surprised just how many people in Scotland want the Union to remain the way it is - and only for daft reasons.
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I know bud And not a million years ago I had similar out there views about the "cause " etc, then I backed Ulster Independence from London and Dublin, so I get the crazy angle@@.😉😊
posted on 24/5/19
comment by Gingernuts (U2992)
posted 13 minutes ago
comment by Magnum (U16400)
posted 1 minute ago
comment by Gingernuts (U2992)
posted 3 minutes ago
Course no deal is an option.
In fact it’s the default position so unless parliament agree on a deal which in turn the EU have to agree to (fat chance on both counts), we revoke Article 50 (not a chance) or we get another extension (go Macron) then we leave with no deal.
Why is that so difficult to understand?
And then of course you will see us AND the EU scuttle and arrange at least a status quo in trading until a proper alternative deal is agreed (which will take years).
Ludicrous to think that isn’t as likely scenario as any other.
Sakes.
----------------------------------------------------------------------
Agreed.
Even lunatic zealots have to get pragmatic when they've exhausted all other options. Simple practicalities and they'll agree anything that won't get them unelected.
Should have been our clear position once the referendum result was known. We wouldn't be in this mess if we had been clear on that
----------------------------------------------------------------------
Here here
----------------------------------------------------------------------
Can I be leave again?🤔
posted on 24/5/19
comment by Gingernuts (U2992)
posted 24 minutes ago
Course no deal is an option.
In fact it’s the default position so unless parliament agree on a deal which in turn the EU have to agree to (fat chance on both counts), we revoke Article 50 (not a chance) or we get another extension (go Macron) then we leave with no deal.
Why is that so difficult to understand?
And then of course you will see us AND the EU scuttle and arrange at least a status quo in trading until a proper alternative deal is agreed (which will take years).
Ludicrous to think that isn’t as likely scenario as any other.
Sakes.
----------------------------------------------------------------------
No deal is not only a legal default...it may be the first choice of Macron and other eu states fed up with May and Brexit
Frankly, and I am not a believer, but the NI deal brexit is the only real brexit and the May Brussels WA was awful...pay with no say and a daft backstop.
Better off in than May WA
posted on 24/5/19
I agree with that tbbab
Was a truly shocking attempt at a compromise.
As ion there wasn’t one. It was just a form of surrender.
posted on 24/5/19
No deal not NI deal.
posted on 24/5/19
comment by Gingernuts (U2992)
posted 34 seconds ago
I agree with that tbbab
Was a truly shocking attempt at a compromise.
As ion there wasn’t one. It was just a form of surrender.
----------------------------------------------------------------------
At first with Chequers I saw a compromise and soft brexit Was I wanted leave respected democratically, but an acknowledgement 48% were remain.
But looking into the May WA and it was worse than remain...so I was torn and briefly thought, Fook it no deal go hard Mrs.😍
But that was cutting our nose off to spite the face stuff, imo...could be wrong as some say WTO and no deal could work after a short recession.
Like many than Ulster Scot types, part of me and others voting leave was two fingers to the man, to the banks and Cameron and Establishment, but I never thought we would win.
It was a protest vote about Brussels and a lot of other stuff not eu connected, and I had no plan or clue where brexit Would go.
Neither did anyone else....therein lies our problem.
posted on 24/5/19
Sipping Scottish Belheather lager for the first time here and it is ok.
Trying all sorts of beer now from Guinness to John Smith to Smithwicks Blonde to hoegarden or summat and caffreys.
What is he verdict on Belheather...as I only drank heavy in glasgow.Is it a soft drink?
posted on 24/5/19
comment by thebluebellsarablue (U9292)
posted 14 minutes ago
comment by Gingernuts (U2992)
posted 34 seconds ago
I agree with that tbbab
Was a truly shocking attempt at a compromise.
As ion there wasn’t one. It was just a form of surrender.
----------------------------------------------------------------------
At first with Chequers I saw a compromise and soft brexit Was I wanted leave respected democratically, but an acknowledgement 48% were remain.
But looking into the May WA and it was worse than remain...so I was torn and briefly thought, Fook it no deal go hard Mrs.😍
But that was cutting our nose off to spite the face stuff, imo...could be wrong as some say WTO and no deal could work after a short recession.
Like many than Ulster Scot types, part of me and others voting leave was two fingers to the man, to the banks and Cameron and Establishment, but I never thought we would win.
It was a protest vote about Brussels and a lot of other stuff not eu connected, and I had no plan or clue where brexit Would go.
Neither did anyone else....therein lies our problem.
----------------------------------------------------------------------
Sorry but I want out of the EU and all it’s machinations. It’s a failed experiment doomed to break apart in our lifetime. You cannot take such diverse cultures, standards, ways of life and history and stick them all together and hope nobody minds while the elected bodies vote their like minded chums in time after time.
They exist by rewarding and buying the loyalties of smaller countries who would struggle without the nett contributors bailing them out and building their infrastructure. When challenged those countries in turn simply back them because they’ve far too much to lose.
This will likely be the first time ever that the next president being voted in is a formality and look who now holds the ace card. Macron. Fwcking Macron.
The common market and policy was a breakthrough the trade barriers. Should have been left at that.
posted on 24/5/19
comment by Gingernuts (U2992)
posted 18 minutes ago
comment by thebluebellsarablue (U9292)
posted 14 minutes ago
comment by Gingernuts (U2992)
posted 34 seconds ago
I agree with that tbbab
Was a truly shocking attempt at a compromise.
As ion there wasn’t one. It was just a form of surrender.
----------------------------------------------------------------------
At first with Chequers I saw a compromise and soft brexit Was I wanted leave respected democratically, but an acknowledgement 48% were remain.
But looking into the May WA and it was worse than remain...so I was torn and briefly thought, Fook it no deal go hard Mrs.😍
But that was cutting our nose off to spite the face stuff, imo...could be wrong as some say WTO and no deal could work after a short recession.
Like many than Ulster Scot types, part of me and others voting leave was two fingers to the man, to the banks and Cameron and Establishment, but I never thought we would win.
It was a protest vote about Brussels and a lot of other stuff not eu connected, and I had no plan or clue where brexit Would go.
Neither did anyone else....therein lies our problem.
----------------------------------------------------------------------
Sorry but I want out of the EU and all it’s machinations. It’s a failed experiment doomed to break apart in our lifetime. You cannot take such diverse cultures, standards, ways of life and history and stick them all together and hope nobody minds while the elected bodies vote their like minded chums in time after time.
They exist by rewarding and buying the loyalties of smaller countries who would struggle without the nett contributors bailing them out and building their infrastructure. When challenged those countries in turn simply back them because they’ve far too much to lose.
This will likely be the first time ever that the next president being voted in is a formality and look who now holds the ace card. Macron. Fwcking Macron.
The common market and policy was a breakthrough the trade barriers. Should have been left at that.
----------------------------------------------------------------------
Largely agree mate.
Am still eurosceptic and cynical about them all.
I am surprised leave won but equally amused at the loyalty Brussels receives from the minions who in order to be not brexit ate stupidly ultra eu.
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