Hanif Mohammad I meant

England

Gooch
Stewart (wk)
Root
KP
Thorpe
Gower
Botham
Flintoff
Swann
Gough
Anderson

Have only watched him in archive , very elegant player, batting average took hit because he played in late 30's as well. Was very prolific in counties and against England & India. Was fine against Aussies as well but against windies , averaged only 18 whereas his compatriots like Sadiq & Wasim Raja excelled against them.

Hutton
Hobbs
Barrington
Gower
Pietersen
Botham
Knott
Swann
Trueman
Willis
Anderson

Barefoot your XI should be called English XI post 80's/

Averages vs a specific country depend on context, sometimes you play them as a teenager, some WI bowling attacks in the early 70s were not that good. Some series at those times were against teams where most players were not playing due to the packer ban. Lots of variables there.

1) Hutton
2) Jack Hobbs
3) Sutcliffe
4) Gower
5) Barrington
6) Pietersen
7) Knott
8) Botham
9) Swann
10) Trueman
11) Willis

comment by Pakistan till I die (U10140)
posted 8 minutes ago
Barefoot your XI should be called English XI post 80's/

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Yep, my era.

Barefoot, I like the Gooch selection, was very tempted to put him in. He faces so many good attacks.

comment by JustTrue (U13155)
posted 24 seconds ago
Barefoot, I like the Gooch selection, was very tempted to put him in. He faces so many good attacks.

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Always rated Gooch. Was very good against the west indies, though did struggle with Alderman.

Nearly picked Jack Russell but Stewart was a good keeper and very good batsman.

comment by JustTrue (U13155)
posted 7 minutes ago
Averages vs a specific country depend on context, sometimes you play them as a teenager, some WI bowling attacks in the early 70s were not that good. Some series at those times were against teams where most players were not playing due to the packer ban. Lots of variables there.

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Agreed there a loads of variable and one of the important one is how successful they were against opponents considered best in their time. Wasim Raja was prolific against windies who I believe were playing their best XI at that time.

Gooch did seem to struggle against those types of bowlers.

He played pace and spin very well, but he struggled vs Alderman, Aqib Javed, Craig Matthews etc.

Gooch struggling against Aquib. If I recall correctly, he and Stewart were the only 2 who had good series with bat in 92 against Pakistan, rest were reverse swinged.

Australia

Hayden
Langer
Ponting
Smith
Border
S Waugh
Gilchrist
Warne
Johnson
Lee
McGrath

PTID, in the 1992 series, Robin Smith did ok against the pacers, but didn’t read Mushtaq at all.

Gooch didn't play in the 87 series against Pakistan. Anyone remember why?

Australia XI
Hayden
Slater
Bradman
Ponting
Border
S Waugh
Gilchrist
Warne
McDermott
Lillee
McGrath

Australia"

1) Hayden
2) Langer
3) Bradman
4) Ponting
5) Greg Chappell
6) Steve Waugh (captain)
7) Gilchrist
8) Keith Miller
9) Lillee
10) Mcgrath
11) Charlie Turner

Barefoot, I think Broad and Robinson were the openers then with Athey as back up. Maybe that’s what Gatting preferred. Don’t think Gooch played when we won in Australia in 1986/7.

comment by JustTrue (U13155)
posted 3 minutes ago
PTID, in the 1992 series, Robin Smith did ok against the pacers, but didn’t read Mushtaq at all.
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He was best among his contemporaries against pace but struggled against spin, leading to early end

PTID, I forgot about Chappell, maybe he can come in place of Border

How Can I omit Warne from that list. Warne instead of Miller at 8 and Miller to replace Waugh at 6.

Two cricketers that were most talented in modern era and their absence is most strongly felt are Warne and Akram.

comment by JustTrue (U13155)
posted 1 minute ago
Barefoot, I think Broad and Robinson were the openers then with Athey as back up. Maybe that’s what Gatting preferred. Don’t think Gooch played when we won in Australia in 1986/7.
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I doubt he would have been dropped? I'm guessing he was injured?
Just googled it.
Gooch opted out of the ashes tour because of family reasons, so therefore missed the 87 series I presume because of England's successful winter?

As good as they both were, I feel they slightly under achieved. I think their records could’ve been even better.