comment by Wahl (U22164)
posted 11 seconds ago
Fergie certainly wasn't going to bend over backwards for Pogba.... That doesn't mean Fergie was happy for him to go.
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I get that but the fact of the matter is he could have kept Pogba if he really wanted to but didn't want to that much. Which is all I've said.
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He didn't want to keep him at any cost. He wanted to keep him, but that desire had limits like any other. It's not difficult to comprehend.
Fergie was absolutely right at the time not to cave to the demands of a kid.
Wahl
Try and think what would happen to your club if you just gave in to the demands of every single player you wanted to keep.
comment by The Lambeau Leap (U21050)
posted 7 seconds ago
comment by Wahl (U22164)
posted 11 seconds ago
Fergie certainly wasn't going to bend over backwards for Pogba.... That doesn't mean Fergie was happy for him to go.
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I get that but the fact of the matter is he could have kept Pogba if he really wanted to but didn't want to that much. Which is all I've said.
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He didn't want to keep him at any cost. He wanted to keep him, but that desire had limits like any other. It's not difficult to comprehend.
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I know it's not difficult to comprehend. What's difficult to comprehend is what issue you've had with what I've said.
comment by _Viva_Vida (U6044)
posted 3 minutes ago
comment by Wahl (U22164)
posted 2 minutes ago
It sounded like he would have liked him to stay but he wasn't willing to break his principles to accommodate him.
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I get that but wanting him to stay isn't black and white. I'm sure He'd be happy for Pogba to stay if he didn't have to pay him anything for example. Clearly there was a limit to how much he wanted him to stay if he wasn't willing to meet Pogba's demands.
Say he has Messi there and messi asks for more than his 'principles' allow. You think Sir Alex doesn't give in to Messi's demands?
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If that was an 18 year old Messi who hadn't played a game for the first team Fergie would have done the exact same.
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No way. If Sir Alex could see that potential he would have had to break his principles.
Comparisons of ronaldo/messi abd pogba
comment by Wahl (U22164)
posted 1 minute ago
comment by The Lambeau Leap (U21050)
posted 7 seconds ago
comment by Wahl (U22164)
posted 11 seconds ago
Fergie certainly wasn't going to bend over backwards for Pogba.... That doesn't mean Fergie was happy for him to go.
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I get that but the fact of the matter is he could have kept Pogba if he really wanted to but didn't want to that much. Which is all I've said.
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He didn't want to keep him at any cost. He wanted to keep him, but that desire had limits like any other. It's not difficult to comprehend.
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I know it's not difficult to comprehend. What's difficult to comprehend is what issue you've had with what I've said.
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Your suggestion that Fergie allowing Pogba to leave was an indication that he was happy to let him go.
What a mess of an article. SAF did his best to keep Pogba, but he didn't want to stay.
At the time some of our fans wanted Pogba to be starting games, but the truth is he wasn't even really performing that well for the reserves. At the time I actually thought that Davide Petrucci was performing better and deserved to be ahead of him in the pecking order.
comment by _Viva_Vida (U6044)
posted 1 minute ago
Wahl
Try and think what would happen to your club if you just gave in to the demands of every single player you wanted to keep.
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No but the question is sometimes a player is good enough for you to have to break your principles or whatever. Ferguson decided Pogba wasn't good enough for him to do that, but I'm sure if he was good enough then he would have. This idea that Ferguson's principles are unbreakable is not true.
comment by Wahl (U22164)
posted 23 seconds ago
comment by _Viva_Vida (U6044)
posted 1 minute ago
Wahl
Try and think what would happen to your club if you just gave in to the demands of every single player you wanted to keep.
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No but the question is sometimes a player is good enough for you to have to break your principles or whatever. Ferguson decided Pogba wasn't good enough for him to do that, but I'm sure if he was good enough then he would have. This idea that Ferguson's principles are unbreakable is not true.
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Pogba wasn't good enough for Fergie to break principle, at that time.
Close article.
comment by The Lambeau Leap (U21050)
posted 55 seconds ago
comment by Wahl (U22164)
posted 1 minute ago
comment by The Lambeau Leap (U21050)
posted 7 seconds ago
comment by Wahl (U22164)
posted 11 seconds ago
Fergie certainly wasn't going to bend over backwards for Pogba.... That doesn't mean Fergie was happy for him to go.
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I get that but the fact of the matter is he could have kept Pogba if he really wanted to but didn't want to that much. Which is all I've said.
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He didn't want to keep him at any cost. He wanted to keep him, but that desire had limits like any other. It's not difficult to comprehend.
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I know it's not difficult to comprehend. What's difficult to comprehend is what issue you've had with what I've said.
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Your suggestion that Fergie allowing Pogba to leave was an indication that he was happy to let him go.
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He did allow him to leave, which is all that I've said. What's the issue then?
If there was a way to keep Ronaldo he would have done it.
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You could say that about every player if the manager wants to keep them.
Sometimes there is more to it than that though and you have to take other eventualities into consideration.
SAF's record at this kind of thing is as good as it gets.
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comment by Vidicschin (U3584)
posted 1 minute ago
If there was a way to keep Ronaldo he would have done it.
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You could say that about every player if the manager wants to keep them.
Sometimes there is more to it than that though and you have to take other eventualities into consideration.
SAF's record at this kind of thing is as good as it gets.
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Look, it's not black and white but realistically there was no way to keep Ronaldo. He had his heart set on Madrid.
With Pogba, Ferguson didn't play him enough and didn't offer him what he was demanding to stay. I think it's a lot easier to see that Ferguson could have kept Pogba by doing more to keep him. I'm actually shocked that me saying is so controversial. it just seems obvious to me.
comment by Ace (U18814)
posted 39 seconds ago
Yet more thinly veiled wummery from Wahl. Writes an article that looks legit, reels people in then starts with the deliberately obtuse/disingenuous semantics. Why do people bother with this idiot.
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I wasn't the one that brought semantics into this. It was the people replying to this article that did.
comment by Ace (U18814)
posted 51 seconds ago
Yet more thinly veiled wummery from Wahl. Writes an article that looks legit, reels people in then starts with the deliberately obtuse/disingenuous semantics. Why do people bother with this idiot.
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You're absolutely right.
comment by Wahl (U22164)
posted 4 minutes ago
comment by The Lambeau Leap (U21050)
posted 1 minute ago
Pogba left because he wasn't patient, not because Fergie didn't want to keep him.
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No, he left because Sir Alex didn't do what was required to keep him. So he clearly didn't want to keep him enough.
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SAF said that he knew as soon as he met Raiola that Pogba would be on the move. I'm not sure that he could have kept Pogoba, who was obviously upset after the Blackburn match when we played FBs ahead of him.
I actually can't be bothered with this site sometimes. I write an article and people just come on with an attitude from the first comment and blame me for nothing.
comment by Wahl (U22164)
posted 1 minute ago
I actually can't be bothered with this site sometimes. I write an article and people just come on with an attitude from the first comment and blame me for nothing.
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Why do you think that is?
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comment by Wahl (U22164)
posted 1 minute ago
I actually can't be bothered with this site sometimes. I write an article and people just come on with an attitude from the first comment and blame me for nothing.
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Hey man, didn’t you read my comment?
SAF said that he knew as soon as he met Raiola that Pogba would be on the move. I'm not sure that he could have kept Pogoba, who was obviously upset after the Blackburn match when we played FBs ahead of him.
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My impression has always been that Juventus did more to entice Pogba than United did to keep him.
comment by Chil Thaw (U22165)
posted 2 seconds ago
comment by Wahl (U22164)
posted 1 minute ago
I actually can't be bothered with this site sometimes. I write an article and people just come on with an attitude from the first comment and blame me for nothing.
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Hey man, didn’t you read my comment?
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Yeah I did just now, thanks for that man. I appreciate it
This article is actually a fitting end to my working week.
Every day there has been at least one poster on our boards making an ar$e of themselves.
comment by Wahl (U22164)
posted 1 minute ago
SAF said that he knew as soon as he met Raiola that Pogba would be on the move. I'm not sure that he could have kept Pogoba, who was obviously upset after the Blackburn match when we played FBs ahead of him.
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My impression has always been that Juventus did more to entice Pogba than United did to keep him.
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Well Pogba himself has said that the Blackburn game was the turning point for him. He wanted to play football and thought he should have been in the team, despite the fact that he wasn't even playing well for the reserves.
comment by _Viva_Vida (U6044)
posted 2 minutes ago
This article is actually a fitting end to my working week.
Every day there has been at least one poster on our boards making an ar$e of themselves.
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posted on 14/6/19
comment by Wahl (U22164)
posted 11 seconds ago
Fergie certainly wasn't going to bend over backwards for Pogba.... That doesn't mean Fergie was happy for him to go.
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I get that but the fact of the matter is he could have kept Pogba if he really wanted to but didn't want to that much. Which is all I've said.
----------------------------------------------------------------------
He didn't want to keep him at any cost. He wanted to keep him, but that desire had limits like any other. It's not difficult to comprehend.
Fergie was absolutely right at the time not to cave to the demands of a kid.
posted on 14/6/19
Wahl
Try and think what would happen to your club if you just gave in to the demands of every single player you wanted to keep.
posted on 14/6/19
comment by The Lambeau Leap (U21050)
posted 7 seconds ago
comment by Wahl (U22164)
posted 11 seconds ago
Fergie certainly wasn't going to bend over backwards for Pogba.... That doesn't mean Fergie was happy for him to go.
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I get that but the fact of the matter is he could have kept Pogba if he really wanted to but didn't want to that much. Which is all I've said.
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He didn't want to keep him at any cost. He wanted to keep him, but that desire had limits like any other. It's not difficult to comprehend.
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I know it's not difficult to comprehend. What's difficult to comprehend is what issue you've had with what I've said.
posted on 14/6/19
comment by _Viva_Vida (U6044)
posted 3 minutes ago
comment by Wahl (U22164)
posted 2 minutes ago
It sounded like he would have liked him to stay but he wasn't willing to break his principles to accommodate him.
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I get that but wanting him to stay isn't black and white. I'm sure He'd be happy for Pogba to stay if he didn't have to pay him anything for example. Clearly there was a limit to how much he wanted him to stay if he wasn't willing to meet Pogba's demands.
Say he has Messi there and messi asks for more than his 'principles' allow. You think Sir Alex doesn't give in to Messi's demands?
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If that was an 18 year old Messi who hadn't played a game for the first team Fergie would have done the exact same.
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No way. If Sir Alex could see that potential he would have had to break his principles.
posted on 14/6/19
Comparisons of ronaldo/messi abd pogba
posted on 14/6/19
comment by Wahl (U22164)
posted 1 minute ago
comment by The Lambeau Leap (U21050)
posted 7 seconds ago
comment by Wahl (U22164)
posted 11 seconds ago
Fergie certainly wasn't going to bend over backwards for Pogba.... That doesn't mean Fergie was happy for him to go.
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I get that but the fact of the matter is he could have kept Pogba if he really wanted to but didn't want to that much. Which is all I've said.
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He didn't want to keep him at any cost. He wanted to keep him, but that desire had limits like any other. It's not difficult to comprehend.
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I know it's not difficult to comprehend. What's difficult to comprehend is what issue you've had with what I've said.
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Your suggestion that Fergie allowing Pogba to leave was an indication that he was happy to let him go.
posted on 14/6/19
What a mess of an article. SAF did his best to keep Pogba, but he didn't want to stay.
At the time some of our fans wanted Pogba to be starting games, but the truth is he wasn't even really performing that well for the reserves. At the time I actually thought that Davide Petrucci was performing better and deserved to be ahead of him in the pecking order.
posted on 14/6/19
comment by _Viva_Vida (U6044)
posted 1 minute ago
Wahl
Try and think what would happen to your club if you just gave in to the demands of every single player you wanted to keep.
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No but the question is sometimes a player is good enough for you to have to break your principles or whatever. Ferguson decided Pogba wasn't good enough for him to do that, but I'm sure if he was good enough then he would have. This idea that Ferguson's principles are unbreakable is not true.
posted on 14/6/19
comment by Wahl (U22164)
posted 23 seconds ago
comment by _Viva_Vida (U6044)
posted 1 minute ago
Wahl
Try and think what would happen to your club if you just gave in to the demands of every single player you wanted to keep.
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No but the question is sometimes a player is good enough for you to have to break your principles or whatever. Ferguson decided Pogba wasn't good enough for him to do that, but I'm sure if he was good enough then he would have. This idea that Ferguson's principles are unbreakable is not true.
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Pogba wasn't good enough for Fergie to break principle, at that time.
Close article.
posted on 14/6/19
comment by The Lambeau Leap (U21050)
posted 55 seconds ago
comment by Wahl (U22164)
posted 1 minute ago
comment by The Lambeau Leap (U21050)
posted 7 seconds ago
comment by Wahl (U22164)
posted 11 seconds ago
Fergie certainly wasn't going to bend over backwards for Pogba.... That doesn't mean Fergie was happy for him to go.
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I get that but the fact of the matter is he could have kept Pogba if he really wanted to but didn't want to that much. Which is all I've said.
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He didn't want to keep him at any cost. He wanted to keep him, but that desire had limits like any other. It's not difficult to comprehend.
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I know it's not difficult to comprehend. What's difficult to comprehend is what issue you've had with what I've said.
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Your suggestion that Fergie allowing Pogba to leave was an indication that he was happy to let him go.
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He did allow him to leave, which is all that I've said. What's the issue then?
posted on 14/6/19
If there was a way to keep Ronaldo he would have done it.
......
You could say that about every player if the manager wants to keep them.
Sometimes there is more to it than that though and you have to take other eventualities into consideration.
SAF's record at this kind of thing is as good as it gets.
posted on 14/6/19
Comment deleted by Site Moderator
posted on 14/6/19
comment by Vidicschin (U3584)
posted 1 minute ago
If there was a way to keep Ronaldo he would have done it.
......
You could say that about every player if the manager wants to keep them.
Sometimes there is more to it than that though and you have to take other eventualities into consideration.
SAF's record at this kind of thing is as good as it gets.
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Look, it's not black and white but realistically there was no way to keep Ronaldo. He had his heart set on Madrid.
With Pogba, Ferguson didn't play him enough and didn't offer him what he was demanding to stay. I think it's a lot easier to see that Ferguson could have kept Pogba by doing more to keep him. I'm actually shocked that me saying is so controversial. it just seems obvious to me.
posted on 14/6/19
comment by Ace (U18814)
posted 39 seconds ago
Yet more thinly veiled wummery from Wahl. Writes an article that looks legit, reels people in then starts with the deliberately obtuse/disingenuous semantics. Why do people bother with this idiot.
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I wasn't the one that brought semantics into this. It was the people replying to this article that did.
posted on 14/6/19
comment by Ace (U18814)
posted 51 seconds ago
Yet more thinly veiled wummery from Wahl. Writes an article that looks legit, reels people in then starts with the deliberately obtuse/disingenuous semantics. Why do people bother with this idiot.
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You're absolutely right.
posted on 14/6/19
comment by Wahl (U22164)
posted 4 minutes ago
comment by The Lambeau Leap (U21050)
posted 1 minute ago
Pogba left because he wasn't patient, not because Fergie didn't want to keep him.
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No, he left because Sir Alex didn't do what was required to keep him. So he clearly didn't want to keep him enough.
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SAF said that he knew as soon as he met Raiola that Pogba would be on the move. I'm not sure that he could have kept Pogoba, who was obviously upset after the Blackburn match when we played FBs ahead of him.
posted on 14/6/19
I actually can't be bothered with this site sometimes. I write an article and people just come on with an attitude from the first comment and blame me for nothing.
posted on 14/6/19
comment by Wahl (U22164)
posted 1 minute ago
I actually can't be bothered with this site sometimes. I write an article and people just come on with an attitude from the first comment and blame me for nothing.
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Why do you think that is?
posted on 14/6/19
Comment deleted by Site Moderator
posted on 14/6/19
comment by Wahl (U22164)
posted 1 minute ago
I actually can't be bothered with this site sometimes. I write an article and people just come on with an attitude from the first comment and blame me for nothing.
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Hey man, didn’t you read my comment?
posted on 14/6/19
SAF said that he knew as soon as he met Raiola that Pogba would be on the move. I'm not sure that he could have kept Pogoba, who was obviously upset after the Blackburn match when we played FBs ahead of him.
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My impression has always been that Juventus did more to entice Pogba than United did to keep him.
posted on 14/6/19
comment by Chil Thaw (U22165)
posted 2 seconds ago
comment by Wahl (U22164)
posted 1 minute ago
I actually can't be bothered with this site sometimes. I write an article and people just come on with an attitude from the first comment and blame me for nothing.
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Hey man, didn’t you read my comment?
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Yeah I did just now, thanks for that man. I appreciate it
posted on 14/6/19
This article is actually a fitting end to my working week.
Every day there has been at least one poster on our boards making an ar$e of themselves.
posted on 14/6/19
comment by Wahl (U22164)
posted 1 minute ago
SAF said that he knew as soon as he met Raiola that Pogba would be on the move. I'm not sure that he could have kept Pogoba, who was obviously upset after the Blackburn match when we played FBs ahead of him.
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My impression has always been that Juventus did more to entice Pogba than United did to keep him.
-----------------
Well Pogba himself has said that the Blackburn game was the turning point for him. He wanted to play football and thought he should have been in the team, despite the fact that he wasn't even playing well for the reserves.
posted on 14/6/19
comment by _Viva_Vida (U6044)
posted 2 minutes ago
This article is actually a fitting end to my working week.
Every day there has been at least one poster on our boards making an ar$e of themselves.
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