comment by Neo- European Champions (U9135)
posted 53 seconds ago
Klopp got us to two finals in his first season, and we have been clearly improving as a side from the minute he joined.

United under Solskjaer? Well 2 wins from the final 12 games says it all really.
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Says it all really

WTF

comment by Neo- European Champions (U9135)
posted 1 minute ago
Klopp got us to two finals in his first season, and we have been clearly improving as a side from the minute he joined.

United under Solskjaer? Well 2 wins from the final 12 games says it all really.
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So ignore the winning streak before that then

Using your tactics then, Klopp, 7 finals losing 6, says it all really

comment by Manc Python (U17527)
posted 8 minutes ago
comment by Redinthehead - FreeGaza - فلسطين (U1860)
posted 1 minute ago
Klopp has already proven himself in Germany, as well as getting to the Champions league final with Dortmund too.

Solskjaer is at best unproven, he isn’t a top manager and that affects the attractiveness of Man Utd to players.

Again it’s not controversial.
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Will you just feck off you irritating little waaankstain. I think pretty much every united fan knows Ole isn’t a top manager yet. Nobody has claimed otherwise. You have simply been humiliated all day on here yet still stick around like a fly round sheite
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Über bite!

comment by KLS - Lets talk about 6 BABY...... (U1695)
posted 18 seconds ago
comment by Manc Python (U17527)
posted 8 minutes ago
comment by Redinthehead - FreeGaza - فلسطين (U1860)
posted 1 minute ago
Klopp has already proven himself in Germany, as well as getting to the Champions league final with Dortmund too.

Solskjaer is at best unproven, he isn’t a top manager and that affects the attractiveness of Man Utd to players.

Again it’s not controversial.
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Will you just feck off you irritating little waaankstain. I think pretty much every united fan knows Ole isn’t a top manager yet. Nobody has claimed otherwise. You have simply been humiliated all day on here yet still stick around like a fly round sheite
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Über bite!
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Far from a bite. That putrid caaant is on here 24/7 spouting utter sheite. The quicker someone boots him off a cliff the better

comment by San Miguel (U1449)
posted 1 minute ago
comment by Neo- European Champions (U9135)
posted 1 minute ago
Klopp got us to two finals in his first season, and we have been clearly improving as a side from the minute he joined.

United under Solskjaer? Well 2 wins from the final 12 games says it all really.
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So ignore the winning streak before that then

Using your tactics then, Klopp, 7 finals losing 6, says it all really
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I’m not ignoring them. In fact taking into the account the early good run of results probably strengthens my point.

It suggests that you are regressing under Solskjaer as time goes on with the results worsening, when they should be going in the opposite direction.

Seems the initial good run was just a new manager bounce, you see it all the time.

comment by San Miguel (U1449)
posted 1 minute ago
comment by Neo- European Champions (U9135)
posted 1 minute ago
Klopp got us to two finals in his first season, and we have been clearly improving as a side from the minute he joined.

United under Solskjaer? Well 2 wins from the final 12 games says it all really.
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So ignore the winning streak before that then

Using your tactics then, Klopp, 7 finals losing 6, says it all really
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Well says that he is usually at least likely to progress to the final, even with unfancied teams, which points to him being a top manager.

As far as Solskjaers winning streak , Paul Ince said he could have replicated that.
Point being that it was a relatively easy run of games. Which from the last twelve games showed that it was just a new manager bounce.

As Manc Python says Man U fans accept Solskjaer isn't a top manager. So dunno what the argument is about.

Neo

Don't drop yourself to the level of KLS and Thickinthehead. You are better than that.

It was the longest and bes new manger bounce ever seen. There was more to it than that. Injuries played the major part in our end of season woes.

OGS actually foresaw our fitness issues early on and said our players would face because he asked them
to do too much early on.

Funnily enough Klopp had these isssue for a few seasons at Dortmund as well.

'Players would fade'

Proper Ùber bite on the other one ey KLS

Paul Ince said he could have replicated that.
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Glad to see you've thought long and hard about this and aren't just resorting to posting any old $hite

comment by Manc Python (U17527)
posted 13 seconds ago
Proper Ùber bite on the other one ey KLS
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Yer, monstrous!

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comment by KLS - Lets talk about 6 BABY...... (U1695)
posted 1 hour, 48 minutes ago
comment by Manc Python (U17527)
posted 8 minutes ago
comment by Redinthehead - FreeGaza - فلسطين (U1860)
posted 1 minute ago
Klopp has already proven himself in Germany, as well as getting to the Champions league final with Dortmund too.

Solskjaer is at best unproven, he isn’t a top manager and that affects the attractiveness of Man Utd to players.

Again it’s not controversial.
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Will you just feck off you irritating little waaankstain. I think pretty much every united fan knows Ole isn’t a top manager yet. Nobody has claimed otherwise. You have simply been humiliated all day on here yet still stick around like a fly round sheite
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Über bite!
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It is, but I don't know why he had to bite at that.. He was agreeing with me

comment by Greatteamswinit4times- a terrible enemy (U6008)

posted 2 hours, 49 minutes ago

comment by Manc Python (U17527)
posted 3 hours, 38 minutes ago
Got them relegated then couldn’t get them up so left them in the league below
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But he left them to go to Dortmund right? So when was he rejected?
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In the same way Ole is a reject. DeadintheHead just called Ole a reject due to getting relegated with Cardiff and then when called out on his statement kept waffling. Maybe you should take a look at what the Liverpool wums are saying before jumping in in the middle.

Also, do you think a Man United, or any other fan could do what DeadintheHead has been doing on here on the Liverpool board without being banned from there?

Has deadinthehead gone to bed now. Getting ready for another day camped on our board. It's a great life, so long as you are a bit stupid and have absolutely nothing interesting to do.

comment by CurrentlyInChina (U11181)
posted 30 minutes ago
comment by Greatteamswinit4times- a terrible enemy (U6008)

posted 2 hours, 49 minutes ago

comment by Manc Python (U17527)
posted 3 hours, 38 minutes ago
Got them relegated then couldn’t get them up so left them in the league below
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But he left them to go to Dortmund right? So when was he rejected?
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In the same way Ole is a reject. DeadintheHead just called Ole a reject due to getting relegated with Cardiff and then when called out on his statement kept waffling. Maybe you should take a look at what the Liverpool wums are saying before jumping in in the middle.

Also, do you think a Man United, or any other fan could do what DeadintheHead has been doing on here on the Liverpool board without being banned from there?
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Ole got sacked from Cardiff.. hence they rejected him.

so have a look at this article, let me know what would have caused a ban to be in the offing, not that you are banned from any board either.

I’ve actually put forward cogent arguments, which even manc python has agreed with and said most Man U fans know Solskjaer isn’t a top manager.

So do share know what you think is ban worthy?

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comment by manusince52 (U9692)
posted 21 minutes ago
Has deadinthehead gone to bed now. Getting ready for another day camped on our board. It's a great life, so long as you are a bit stupid and have absolutely nothing interesting to do.
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^ yep, another unsubstantive comment from ‘since52, about me.



Rent free in your head man, try and chill out.

No not gone to bed. Still living on our board. Don't tire yourself out, another long day tomorrow.

comment by manusince52 (U9692)
posted 6 minutes ago
No not gone to bed. Still living on our board. Don't tire yourself out, another long day tomorrow.
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Ok

Hope you have actual debate to add if you feel like commenting tomorrow. Some of your comments in the last couple of weeks since Klopp delivered no.6 have left a lot to be desired.

Couldn’t have affected you that badly could it?

comment by Vidicschin (U3584)
posted 8 hours, 38 minutes ago
Scrtuttocks

His remit is to oversee a two year rebuild with players who are young and want to play for United and to improve the quality of the football.

The club went for him purely because of his connections to the club and learning from the best their was.

We have tried getting known managers and have failed.


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But that's an even bigger task than the brief given to the experienced managers

Anyone can sign young players but to identify ones who are good enough with the resources all clubs now possess is incredibly tricky.

To improve the quality of football wouldn't be too difficult if it meant just giving the same players more freedom. It might not improve results but entertainment would likely improvement.

OGS worked under the best of all time IMO however despite his greatness Ferguson has seen only one of his players excel as managers. *Blanc has done well and some others are up and coming now so that may change but we're talking about very very low chances given how many players have played under him.

Coincidence maybe but it seems unusually low IMO which perhaps points to Fergie deliberately going for players who aren't going to challenge his management?

The odds are so stacked against OGS you should prepare yourself for it almost certainly failing and in fact failing badly.

As I mentioned, he's someone I'd personally not begrudge success at United but the gamble is a whole new level particularly due to the lack of football structure above the manager.

comment by Greatteamswinit4times- a terrible enemy (U6008)

posted 5 hours, 6 minutes ago

comment by CurrentlyInChina (U11181)
posted 36 minutes ago
comment by Greatteamswinit4times- a terrible enemy (U6008)

posted 2 hours, 49 minutes ago

comment by Manc Python (U17527)
posted 3 hours, 38 minutes ago
Got them relegated then couldn’t get them up so left them in the league below
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But he left them to go to Dortmund right? So when was he rejected?
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In the same way Ole is a reject. DeadintheHead just called Ole a reject due to getting relegated with Cardiff and then when called out on his statement kept waffling. Maybe you should take a look at what the Liverpool wums are saying before jumping in in the middle.

Also, do you think a Man United, or any other fan could do what DeadintheHead has been doing on here on the Liverpool board without being banned from there?
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Was ole sacked or did he leave?
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He was sacked.

Did Klopp get relegated with Mainz or not?

As the original comment came about due to bring relegated. Then other stuff came about to justify the original comment due to being called out on Klopp also being relegated.

Now, if you want to support your idiotic Wum DeadintheHead, by all means do so.

comment by Scruttocks (U19684)

posted 3 hours, 23 minutes ago

comment by Vidicschin (U3584)
posted 8 hours, 38 minutes ago
Scrtuttocks

His remit is to oversee a two year rebuild with players who are young and want to play for United and to improve the quality of the football.

The club went for him purely because of his connections to the club and learning from the best their was.

We have tried getting known managers and have failed.


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But that's an even bigger task than the brief given to the experienced managers

Anyone can sign young players but to identify ones who are good enough with the resources all clubs now possess is incredibly tricky.

To improve the quality of football wouldn't be too difficult if it meant just giving the same players more freedom. It might not improve results but entertainment would likely improvement.

OGS worked under the best of all time IMO however despite his greatness Ferguson has seen only one of his players excel as managers. *Blanc has done well and some others are up and coming now so that may change but we're talking about very very low chances given how many players have played under him.

Coincidence maybe but it seems unusually low IMO which perhaps points to Fergie deliberately going for players who aren't going to challenge his management?

The odds are so stacked against OGS you should prepare yourself for it almost certainly failing and in fact failing badly.

As I mentioned, he's someone I'd personally not begrudge success at United but the gamble is a whole new level particularly due to the lack of football structure above the manager.
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LVG was given a mandate to rebuild the side and put in place a new style of play. He was supposed to have 3 years to do so. So as a "bigger" manager he was given more or less the similarlevel of mandate.

All the other concerns you listed are shared by United fans. We're not blind into thinking Ole will succeed. But this is also a test on Woodward. He can no longer hide behind great managers when things go wrong. He also doesn't have the luxury of being new to the job. If Ole fails, Ed does too. Ed has yet to put in place a Technical Director, and we have been taking almost a year in trying to sort that out. It should have been sorted out before Ole was given the job on a full time basis. He has taken on the task again of trying to get a new manager to build a new team and style. If he is seen as interfering again, I think you can see fans start to turn hostile at OT against him. After all, Ole is a gamble and also a legend. His legendary status won't be tarnished.

The hope, at its minimum, is that Ole puts into the foundations that the next guy can build on and bring success.

comment by CurrentlyInChina (U11181)
posted 31 minutes ago
comment by Scruttocks (U19684)

posted 3 hours, 23 minutes ago

comment by Vidicschin (U3584)
posted 8 hours, 38 minutes ago
Scrtuttocks

His remit is to oversee a two year rebuild with players who are young and want to play for United and to improve the quality of the football.

The club went for him purely because of his connections to the club and learning from the best their was.

We have tried getting known managers and have failed.


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But that's an even bigger task than the brief given to the experienced managers

Anyone can sign young players but to identify ones who are good enough with the resources all clubs now possess is incredibly tricky.

To improve the quality of football wouldn't be too difficult if it meant just giving the same players more freedom. It might not improve results but entertainment would likely improvement.

OGS worked under the best of all time IMO however despite his greatness Ferguson has seen only one of his players excel as managers. *Blanc has done well and some others are up and coming now so that may change but we're talking about very very low chances given how many players have played under him.

Coincidence maybe but it seems unusually low IMO which perhaps points to Fergie deliberately going for players who aren't going to challenge his management?

The odds are so stacked against OGS you should prepare yourself for it almost certainly failing and in fact failing badly.

As I mentioned, he's someone I'd personally not begrudge success at United but the gamble is a whole new level particularly due to the lack of football structure above the manager.
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LVG was given a mandate to rebuild the side and put in place a new style of play. He was supposed to have 3 years to do so. So as a "bigger" manager he was given more or less the similarlevel of mandate.

All the other concerns you listed are shared by United fans. We're not blind into thinking Ole will succeed. But this is also a test on Woodward. He can no longer hide behind great managers when things go wrong. He also doesn't have the luxury of being new to the job. If Ole fails, Ed does too. Ed has yet to put in place a Technical Director, and we have been taking almost a year in trying to sort that out. It should have been sorted out before Ole was given the job on a full time basis. He has taken on the task again of trying to get a new manager to build a new team and style. If he is seen as interfering again, I think you can see fans start to turn hostile at OT against him. After all, Ole is a gamble and also a legend. His legendary status won't be tarnished.

The hope, at its minimum, is that Ole puts into the foundations that the next guy can build on and bring success.
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Good post

I agree although I'm not sure Ed will ever really face much backlash, we had Gazidas doing a far worse job (we're now in dire financial straights having at one point had the largest cash reserves in world football plus on field we're failing) but those figures never really feel the fans wrath compared to players, managers and owners.

My comment was to people who were comparing aspects of Klopp's management with OGS's as if the risk in employing each was remotely comparable. They back tracked and were made due to goading from Liverpool fans but comparisons were made.