This is the best possible time for frank to manage us
The "he needs experience crew" are the most annoying people on the planet. No basis to them saying it. Sarri had experience, conte had experience, scolari had experience, avb had experience. At least lamps can grow with us.
To the "it will tarnish his legacy with us" crowd. To you I say grow the fack up and don't let it. He is our all time top scorer. Unlikely to be broken in our lifetimes. If a former ayer getting fired especially a legend like Chelsea will effect your view on him that's on you. Lamps is forever embedded in our history
Frank would be inspired. Yes he has something to learn but so does everyone. He will get time because the board have no choice
"He got 3rd place after the teams above us collapsed and that's the reality. Don't forget as well if it wasn't the farce in Cardiff that we wouldn't have gotten top 4. Don't misunderstand me, he achieved what he achieved, but those achievements need to be put into context. The Europa League victory was impressive though but we didn't have to face anyone too tough to win it."
Wish I had bookmarked the thread where I made pretty much the same arguments for Jose's 2nd place finish and Europa League win.
Suffice to say you didn't agree.
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you dont think getting to the playoff final in your first year as manager bringing in loan players was not successful? Im not for the lampard signing but thats crazy talk.
better than getting relegated with a team and then getting sacked...
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Forget ole at Cardiff, look at what he achieved at molde on nothing. Derby were pretty much expected to finish around playoffs it wasn’t that impressive a feat.
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Were they expected to finish around the playoffs? If so he achieved his objective then - you're shooting yourself in the foot with your own argument!
He had no cards to play except a load of untried loan players - I'd say he did rather well with the hand he was dealt!
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He did not a bad job. But nothing that would say he’s good enough to be a Chelsea boss. Far too raw. Ole is similar but has done more.
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You probably said the same thing about Pep or Zidane when they coached Barca B and Real Madrid B sides before getting the big job.
Truth is none of us know how Lamps will fair and we're not going to unless he's given the job
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Pretty much why I said in my original post ‘by all accounts an intelligent guy’. Meaning who knows how he will perform.
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you dont think getting to the playoff final in your first year as manager bringing in loan players was not successful? Im not for the lampard signing but thats crazy talk.
better than getting relegated with a team and then getting sacked...
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Forget ole at Cardiff, look at what he achieved at molde on nothing. Derby were pretty much expected to finish around playoffs it wasn’t that impressive a feat.
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Were they expected to finish around the playoffs? If so he achieved his objective then - you're shooting yourself in the foot with your own argument!
He had no cards to play except a load of untried loan players - I'd say he did rather well with the hand he was dealt!
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He did not a bad job. But nothing that would say he’s good enough to be a Chelsea boss. Far too raw. Ole is similar but has done more.
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You probably said the same thing about Pep or Zidane when they coached Barca B and Real Madrid B sides before getting the big job.
Truth is none of us know how Lamps will fair and we're not going to unless he's given the job
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Pretty much why I said in my original post ‘by all accounts an intelligent guy’. Meaning who knows how he will perform.
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You said he's far too raw and that there's nothing that would indicate he's good enough to be Chelsea boss. From that I'd say your opinion is that he won't perform well.
Avram Grant...Scholari...sarri.??
Frank will do grand.
I hope
The people who run our club are such morons ...
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The people who run our club are such morons ...
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Aye, but we still win stuff.
😉
He deserves better.
Brought in to the club late, didn’t get a preseason to coach players to his style of play and was under pressure through his entire tenure.
The Europa final showed what with a bit of time to coach the players the way the team could play.
Finished 3rd and delivered a trophy but was hounded out of the club by the fans.
Instead you now have a championship manager that finished 6th. Can you think of any other manager that hadn’t played for Chelsea that would get the job with that CV?
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posted 15 minutes ago
He deserves better.
Brought in to the club late, didn’t get a preseason to coach players to his style of play and was under pressure through his entire tenure.
The Europa final showed what with a bit of time to coach the players the way the team could play.
Finished 3rd and delivered a trophy but was hounded out of the club by the fans.
Instead you now have a championship manager that finished 6th. Can you think of any other manager that hadn’t played for Chelsea that would get the job with that CV?
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Was it his looks and persona what did for Sarri
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posted 2 hours, 24 minutes ago
Quite happy for Sarri to leave. I think how good a job he did has been exaggerated. He got 3rd place after the teams above us collapsed and that's the reality. Don't forget as well if it wasn't the farce in Cardiff that we wouldn't have gotten top 4. Don't misunderstand me, he achieved what he achieved, but those achievements need to be put into context. The Europa League victory was impressive though but we didn't have to face anyone too tough to win it. Still, he won it and that's the most important thing.
I don't really think Lampard is the best choice considering this is an important time for Chelsea as we need to re-establish ourselves as one of the elite teams in the league, but he seems to be the choice and I hope he surprises everyone.
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hows this weasel allowed to post on our board.
Terrible from us again, tear the script and re write it, have we ever reached chapter 2
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posted 31 minutes ago
He deserves better.
Brought in to the club late, didn’t get a preseason to coach players to his style of play and was under pressure through his entire tenure.
The Europa final showed what with a bit of time to coach the players the way the team could play.
Finished 3rd and delivered a trophy but was hounded out of the club by the fans.
Instead you now have a championship manager that finished 6th. Can you think of any other manager that hadn’t played for Chelsea that would get the job with that CV?
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lol whose this clown? Sarri himself said he wanted to stay yet he was "hounded out by the fans" after 1 or maybe 2 games where a few games sang a few songs
why is everyone past a 20,000 username a moron?
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Aye, but we still win stuff.
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It is amazing isn’t it. But we win stuff IN SPITE of the people running the club, not because of them. Our next manager won’t be able to make any signings this year, but that won’t be his fault. He will still be fired by the board if he fails to be successful - the same board that’s responsible for getting us the transfer ban in the first place. Why doesn’t Abramovich fire the board? He must know how companies should be run - why does he allow this level of incompetence to go on at Chelsea?
i personally would have preffered JT simply for that fact that frank is too nice a guy. Cant imagine frank trying to give somebody like Diego Costa a rollicking but JT wouldnt take carp from anyone. put an end to player power.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2pLSaltnK-k
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He deserves better.
Brought in to the club late, didn’t get a preseason to coach players to his style of play and was under pressure through his entire tenure.
The Europa final showed what with a bit of time to coach the players the way the team could play.
Finished 3rd and delivered a trophy but was hounded out of the club by the fans.
Instead you now have a championship manager that finished 6th. Can you think of any other manager that hadn’t played for Chelsea that would get the job with that CV?
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Really?
That's news to me - last time I looked we didn't have a manager!
This is the best possible time for frank to manage us
The "he needs experience crew" are the most annoying people on the planet. No basis to them saying it. Sarri had experience, conte had experience, scolari had experience, avb had experience. At least lamps can grow with us.
To the "it will tarnish his legacy with us" crowd. To you I say grow the fack up and don't let it. He is our all time top scorer. Unlikely to be broken in our lifetimes. If a former ayer getting fired especially a legend like Chelsea will effect your view on him that's on you. Lamps is forever embedded in our history
Frank would be inspired. Yes he has something to learn but so does everyone. He will get time because the board have no choice
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So much wrong with this post.
You can like the idea of Lampard becoming our manager, nothing wrong with that, but denying the argument that he needs more experience because it doesn't suit your idealistic view is complete ignorance. This sort of tripe, it's different therefore it's good (which is the definition of a baseless argument), came from the same people who wanted Morris last year when the sane people suggested it might be too soon. And lo and behold in less than a year something better emerged from that ridiculous idea - he teamed up with Lampard. It's bloody hilarious you referencing AVB as "having experience", had six months more experience than Lampard, broke records all over the place in that time (which Lampard hasn't), and he completely bombed in large part because of his lack of experience. Do you really need anymore to go on to suggest maybe Lampard needs more time to fully understand his own style let alone make a jump to Chelsea than that? Or do you believe his Chelsea legend status automatically means there's no possibility of that?
I agree with the second paragraph, but your completely underestimating the fickle nature of the modern fan. Six years ago the idea Jose Mourinho would be seen as the enemy by us (rival manager or not) was absolutely absurd. Things change VERY quickly in football, your telling me there's no possibility of people looking at Lampard differently (maybe not badly, just differently) if he fails as a manager for us? Especially if he winds up becoming successful down the road after he fails, then we wind up thinking to ourselves, 'man, if only we'd have given him more time to develop at Derby'? You know, gain more experience
And I simply have nothing to say about the last paragraph. Please tell me how the board have no choice but to give him time? Don't have the faintest clue where your coming from with that opinion.
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This is the best possible time for frank to manage us
The "he needs experience crew" are the most annoying people on the planet. No basis to them saying it. Sarri had experience, conte had experience, scolari had experience, avb had experience. At least lamps can grow with us.
To the "it will tarnish his legacy with us" crowd. To you I say grow the fack up and don't let it. He is our all time top scorer. Unlikely to be broken in our lifetimes. If a former ayer getting fired especially a legend like Chelsea will effect your view on him that's on you. Lamps is forever embedded in our history
Frank would be inspired. Yes he has something to learn but so does everyone. He will get time because the board have no choice
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So much wrong with this post.
You can like the idea of Lampard becoming our manager, nothing wrong with that, but denying the argument that he needs more experience because it doesn't suit your idealistic view is complete ignorance. This sort of tripe, it's different therefore it's good (which is the definition of a baseless argument), came from the same people who wanted Morris last year when the sane people suggested it might be too soon. And lo and behold in less than a year something better emerged from that ridiculous idea - he teamed up with Lampard. It's bloody hilarious you referencing AVB as "having experience", had six months more experience than Lampard, broke records all over the place in that time (which Lampard hasn't), and he completely bombed in large part because of his lack of experience. Do you really need anymore to go on to suggest maybe Lampard needs more time to fully understand his own style let alone make a jump to Chelsea than that? Or do you believe his Chelsea legend status automatically means there's no possibility of that?
I agree with the second paragraph, but your completely underestimating the fickle nature of the modern fan. Six years ago the idea Jose Mourinho would be seen as the enemy by us (rival manager or not) was absolutely absurd. Things change VERY quickly in football, your telling me there's no possibility of people looking at Lampard differently (maybe not badly, just differently) if he fails as a manager for us? Especially if he winds up becoming successful down the road after he fails, then we wind up thinking to ourselves, 'man, if only we'd have given him more time to develop at Derby'? You know, gain more experience
And I simply have nothing to say about the last paragraph. Please tell me how the board have no choice but to give him time? Don't have the faintest clue where your coming from with that opinion.
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There's nothing wrong with his post at all. What makes you the font of all knowledge about how things will turn out?
We've appointed experienced managers by the bus load that have failed.
There is no right or wrong about managerial appointments, any given appointment can turn into a nightmare and there's no evidence to say that a manager who hasn't even been appointed yet will be a bad appointment.
Mons opinion is just as opinion is as valid as the next persons - even yours!
It's bloody hilarious you referencing AVB as "having experience", had six months more experience than Lampard, broke records all over the place in that time (which Lampard hasn't), and he completely bombed in large part because of his lack of experience.
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Ironic that Lampard was one of the ones who gave AVB a hard time It would be karma if he struggled with player power as Chelsea manager wouldn't it. (Disclaimer: I am not saying I want that to happen, I'm just saying it would be fitting in a way)
There's nothing wrong with his post at all. What makes you the font of all knowledge about how things will turn out?
We've appointed experienced managers by the bus load that have failed.
There is no right or wrong about managerial appointments, any given appointment can turn into a nightmare and there's no evidence to say that a manager who hasn't even been appointed yet will be a bad appointment.
Mons opinion is just as opinion is as valid as the next persons - even yours!
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The idea that Lampard will fail if we appoint him now is based in reality - lacks managerial experience, never had to deal with top players in a managerial capacity, never had to deal with intensive media pressure (as an England player probably the worst it got), never managed in the PL, etc... the argument that now's the right time to appoint him is what exactly?
I don't mind people liking the idea of it, don't even have a problem with people arguing what I believe to be falsehoods to justify it (that's just my opinion against there/DL11's opinions on it spring to mind), when people suggest those logical arguments against hiring him have no basis because of generalizations like 'it's different' or 'we've tried experience and failed', that's when I have problems. We tried inexperience/long term growth with AVB and that failed enormously, so there's no basis for that argument what so ever.
It's bloody hilarious you referencing AVB as "having experience", had six months more experience than Lampard, broke records all over the place in that time (which Lampard hasn't), and he completely bombed in large part because of his lack of experience.
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Ironic that Lampard was one of the ones who gave AVB a hard time It would be karma if he struggled with player power as Chelsea manager wouldn't it. (Disclaimer: I am not saying I want that to happen, I'm just saying it would be fitting in a way)
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That actually brings up an interesting point funnily enough. Everyone seems to assume Lampard might oversee a total youth overhaul in the team but he should know more than anyone how much player power can dictate a managers destiny.
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There's nothing wrong with his post at all. What makes you the font of all knowledge about how things will turn out?
We've appointed experienced managers by the bus load that have failed.
There is no right or wrong about managerial appointments, any given appointment can turn into a nightmare and there's no evidence to say that a manager who hasn't even been appointed yet will be a bad appointment.
Mons opinion is just as opinion is as valid as the next persons - even yours!
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The idea that Lampard will fail if we appoint him now is based in reality - lacks managerial experience, never had to deal with top players in a managerial capacity, never had to deal with intensive media pressure (as an England player probably the worst it got), never managed in the PL, etc... the argument that now's the right time to appoint him is what exactly?
I don't mind people liking the idea of it, don't even have a problem with people arguing what I believe to be falsehoods to justify it (that's just my opinion against there/DL11's opinions on it spring to mind), when people suggest those logical arguments against hiring him have no basis because of generalizations like 'it's different' or 'we've tried experience and failed', that's when I have problems. We tried inexperience/long term growth with AVB and that failed enormously, so there's no basis for that argument what so ever.
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No it's not based on reality whatsoever, you really need to have a word with yourself and stop lecturing people with what may or may not happen in the future with a manager we haven't even appointed yet.
Let's get this straight - you do not have a clue about what will happen IF Frank Lampard DOES get appointed as our next manager.
It's people like you who talk down there noses at others with their so cok sure 'Opinions' that really get up my hooter!
If you don't think he'll be a good appointment, fine, I'm quite happy for you to have that opinion, but don't deliver that opinion as fact and a basis to try and ridicule some one else who doesn't share your wisdom.
I don't know if he'll be a good appointment but I'm not going to pi$$ on someone else's opinion because I think it's flawed.
I highly doubt the fans, media and club are going to be anymore patient with Lampard, than they have been with any other manager. There are so many question marks over his managerial experience, and I almost guarantee it will be talking point through next season. And this criticism will only get louder if we go through a periods of bad form.
Its probably one of the most risky appointments we have made in the Abramovich era. With Jose's return we kind of knew what to expect in terms of management; hence why so many were willing to be patient through some of his rough patches. Lampard isn't returning as a former manager, and there is no guarantee that he will be any good.
I'm frankly (lol) willing to give him a chance, but I've always wanted to stick by managers. However, I would certainly be much more confident going into next season with Sarri than I would be with Lampard.
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I highly doubt the fans, media and club are going to be anymore patient with Lampard, than they have been with any other manager. There are so many question marks over his managerial experience, and I almost guarantee it will be talking point through next season. And this criticism will only get louder if we go through a periods of bad form.
Its probably one of the most risky appointments we have made in the Abramovich era. With Jose's return we kind of knew what to expect in terms of management; hence why so many were willing to be patient through some of his rough patches. Lampard isn't returning as a former manager, and there is no guarantee that he will be any good.
I'm frankly (lol) willing to give him a chance, but I've always wanted to stick by managers. However, I would certainly be much more confident going into next season with Sarri than I would be with Lampard.
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I'd be more confident going into next season with Sarri but the reality is that he's gone.
And with a weaker squad than the average one we had last season, with no opportunity to improve on it (unless the club have an ace up their sleeve with regard to the transfer ban) I don't see us being a very attractive proposition for for any high profile managers out there - unless they fancy taking a big financial pay off after getting sacked six months into the job!
No it's not based on reality whatsoever, you really need to have a word with yourself and stop lecturing people with what may or may not happen in the future with a manager we haven't even appointed yet.
Let's get this straight - you do not have a clue about what will happen IF Frank Lampard DOES get appointed as our next manager.
It's people like you who talk down there noses at others with their so cok sure 'Opinions' that really get up my hooter!
If you don't think he'll be a good appointment, fine, I'm quite happy for you to have that opinion, but don't deliver that opinion as fact and a basis to try and ridicule some one else who doesn't share your wisdom.
I don't know if he'll be a good appointment but I'm not going to pi$$ on someone else's opinion because I think it's flawed.
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Don't know where the hell that came from. He said the "he needs experience crew" had no basis for that opinion. That statement is false, implies experience is irrelevant, talks down on anyone who thinks as such and frankly is more disrespectful than anything in the tone of my replies. But w/e.
Personally i'm still amazed that Juve have seen fit to take Sarri off us & pay the compo to do so.
I was a staunch critic of him for a lage chunk of last term...but he came good when his head cleared about what our best 11 was
We won't be looking past Frankie the legend as our next boss...and given the project managers we've taken on in the last ten years or so...who's to know whether he's up to it
Ole is an exact comparison for him given his legendary status & inexperience as a manager, so who knows.
In the end it won't be Lampard on trial as such...it'll be the entire club given the mess we've got ourselves in with the transfer window situation, we still don't know if our youngsters are up to it, - we also have no idea what post Hazard football will be like.
Just gotta get behind Frank when he's appointed...& he will be.
keep the faith, we are winners...which is more than you can say for $puds & goonz
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posted on 16/6/19
This is the best possible time for frank to manage us
The "he needs experience crew" are the most annoying people on the planet. No basis to them saying it. Sarri had experience, conte had experience, scolari had experience, avb had experience. At least lamps can grow with us.
To the "it will tarnish his legacy with us" crowd. To you I say grow the fack up and don't let it. He is our all time top scorer. Unlikely to be broken in our lifetimes. If a former ayer getting fired especially a legend like Chelsea will effect your view on him that's on you. Lamps is forever embedded in our history
Frank would be inspired. Yes he has something to learn but so does everyone. He will get time because the board have no choice
posted on 16/6/19
"He got 3rd place after the teams above us collapsed and that's the reality. Don't forget as well if it wasn't the farce in Cardiff that we wouldn't have gotten top 4. Don't misunderstand me, he achieved what he achieved, but those achievements need to be put into context. The Europa League victory was impressive though but we didn't have to face anyone too tough to win it."
Wish I had bookmarked the thread where I made pretty much the same arguments for Jose's 2nd place finish and Europa League win.
Suffice to say you didn't agree.
posted on 16/6/19
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you dont think getting to the playoff final in your first year as manager bringing in loan players was not successful? Im not for the lampard signing but thats crazy talk.
better than getting relegated with a team and then getting sacked...
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Forget ole at Cardiff, look at what he achieved at molde on nothing. Derby were pretty much expected to finish around playoffs it wasn’t that impressive a feat.
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Were they expected to finish around the playoffs? If so he achieved his objective then - you're shooting yourself in the foot with your own argument!
He had no cards to play except a load of untried loan players - I'd say he did rather well with the hand he was dealt!
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He did not a bad job. But nothing that would say he’s good enough to be a Chelsea boss. Far too raw. Ole is similar but has done more.
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You probably said the same thing about Pep or Zidane when they coached Barca B and Real Madrid B sides before getting the big job.
Truth is none of us know how Lamps will fair and we're not going to unless he's given the job
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Pretty much why I said in my original post ‘by all accounts an intelligent guy’. Meaning who knows how he will perform.
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you dont think getting to the playoff final in your first year as manager bringing in loan players was not successful? Im not for the lampard signing but thats crazy talk.
better than getting relegated with a team and then getting sacked...
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Forget ole at Cardiff, look at what he achieved at molde on nothing. Derby were pretty much expected to finish around playoffs it wasn’t that impressive a feat.
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Were they expected to finish around the playoffs? If so he achieved his objective then - you're shooting yourself in the foot with your own argument!
He had no cards to play except a load of untried loan players - I'd say he did rather well with the hand he was dealt!
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He did not a bad job. But nothing that would say he’s good enough to be a Chelsea boss. Far too raw. Ole is similar but has done more.
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You probably said the same thing about Pep or Zidane when they coached Barca B and Real Madrid B sides before getting the big job.
Truth is none of us know how Lamps will fair and we're not going to unless he's given the job
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Pretty much why I said in my original post ‘by all accounts an intelligent guy’. Meaning who knows how he will perform.
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You said he's far too raw and that there's nothing that would indicate he's good enough to be Chelsea boss. From that I'd say your opinion is that he won't perform well.
posted on 16/6/19
Avram Grant...Scholari...sarri.??
Frank will do grand.
I hope
posted on 16/6/19
The people who run our club are such morons ...
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comment by F♯ A♯ ∞ (U16342)
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The people who run our club are such morons ...
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Aye, but we still win stuff.
😉
posted on 16/6/19
He deserves better.
Brought in to the club late, didn’t get a preseason to coach players to his style of play and was under pressure through his entire tenure.
The Europa final showed what with a bit of time to coach the players the way the team could play.
Finished 3rd and delivered a trophy but was hounded out of the club by the fans.
Instead you now have a championship manager that finished 6th. Can you think of any other manager that hadn’t played for Chelsea that would get the job with that CV?
posted on 16/6/19
comment by Chil Thaw (U22165)
posted 15 minutes ago
He deserves better.
Brought in to the club late, didn’t get a preseason to coach players to his style of play and was under pressure through his entire tenure.
The Europa final showed what with a bit of time to coach the players the way the team could play.
Finished 3rd and delivered a trophy but was hounded out of the club by the fans.
Instead you now have a championship manager that finished 6th. Can you think of any other manager that hadn’t played for Chelsea that would get the job with that CV?
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Was it his looks and persona what did for Sarri
posted on 16/6/19
comment by Wahl (U22164)
posted 2 hours, 24 minutes ago
Quite happy for Sarri to leave. I think how good a job he did has been exaggerated. He got 3rd place after the teams above us collapsed and that's the reality. Don't forget as well if it wasn't the farce in Cardiff that we wouldn't have gotten top 4. Don't misunderstand me, he achieved what he achieved, but those achievements need to be put into context. The Europa League victory was impressive though but we didn't have to face anyone too tough to win it. Still, he won it and that's the most important thing.
I don't really think Lampard is the best choice considering this is an important time for Chelsea as we need to re-establish ourselves as one of the elite teams in the league, but he seems to be the choice and I hope he surprises everyone.
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hows this weasel allowed to post on our board.
posted on 16/6/19
Terrible from us again, tear the script and re write it, have we ever reached chapter 2
posted on 16/6/19
comment by Chil Thaw (U22165)
posted 31 minutes ago
He deserves better.
Brought in to the club late, didn’t get a preseason to coach players to his style of play and was under pressure through his entire tenure.
The Europa final showed what with a bit of time to coach the players the way the team could play.
Finished 3rd and delivered a trophy but was hounded out of the club by the fans.
Instead you now have a championship manager that finished 6th. Can you think of any other manager that hadn’t played for Chelsea that would get the job with that CV?
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lol whose this clown? Sarri himself said he wanted to stay yet he was "hounded out by the fans" after 1 or maybe 2 games where a few games sang a few songs
why is everyone past a 20,000 username a moron?
posted on 16/6/19
comment by thebluebellsarablue (U9292)
posted 1 hour, 35 minutes ago
comment by F♯ A♯ ∞ (U16342)
posted 3 minutes ago
The people who run our club are such morons ...
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Aye, but we still win stuff.
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It is amazing isn’t it. But we win stuff IN SPITE of the people running the club, not because of them. Our next manager won’t be able to make any signings this year, but that won’t be his fault. He will still be fired by the board if he fails to be successful - the same board that’s responsible for getting us the transfer ban in the first place. Why doesn’t Abramovich fire the board? He must know how companies should be run - why does he allow this level of incompetence to go on at Chelsea?
posted on 16/6/19
i personally would have preffered JT simply for that fact that frank is too nice a guy. Cant imagine frank trying to give somebody like Diego Costa a rollicking but JT wouldnt take carp from anyone. put an end to player power.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2pLSaltnK-k
posted on 16/6/19
comment by Chil Thaw (U22165)
posted 1 hour, 15 minutes ago
He deserves better.
Brought in to the club late, didn’t get a preseason to coach players to his style of play and was under pressure through his entire tenure.
The Europa final showed what with a bit of time to coach the players the way the team could play.
Finished 3rd and delivered a trophy but was hounded out of the club by the fans.
Instead you now have a championship manager that finished 6th. Can you think of any other manager that hadn’t played for Chelsea that would get the job with that CV?
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Really?
That's news to me - last time I looked we didn't have a manager!
posted on 16/6/19
This is the best possible time for frank to manage us
The "he needs experience crew" are the most annoying people on the planet. No basis to them saying it. Sarri had experience, conte had experience, scolari had experience, avb had experience. At least lamps can grow with us.
To the "it will tarnish his legacy with us" crowd. To you I say grow the fack up and don't let it. He is our all time top scorer. Unlikely to be broken in our lifetimes. If a former ayer getting fired especially a legend like Chelsea will effect your view on him that's on you. Lamps is forever embedded in our history
Frank would be inspired. Yes he has something to learn but so does everyone. He will get time because the board have no choice
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So much wrong with this post.
You can like the idea of Lampard becoming our manager, nothing wrong with that, but denying the argument that he needs more experience because it doesn't suit your idealistic view is complete ignorance. This sort of tripe, it's different therefore it's good (which is the definition of a baseless argument), came from the same people who wanted Morris last year when the sane people suggested it might be too soon. And lo and behold in less than a year something better emerged from that ridiculous idea - he teamed up with Lampard. It's bloody hilarious you referencing AVB as "having experience", had six months more experience than Lampard, broke records all over the place in that time (which Lampard hasn't), and he completely bombed in large part because of his lack of experience. Do you really need anymore to go on to suggest maybe Lampard needs more time to fully understand his own style let alone make a jump to Chelsea than that? Or do you believe his Chelsea legend status automatically means there's no possibility of that?
I agree with the second paragraph, but your completely underestimating the fickle nature of the modern fan. Six years ago the idea Jose Mourinho would be seen as the enemy by us (rival manager or not) was absolutely absurd. Things change VERY quickly in football, your telling me there's no possibility of people looking at Lampard differently (maybe not badly, just differently) if he fails as a manager for us? Especially if he winds up becoming successful down the road after he fails, then we wind up thinking to ourselves, 'man, if only we'd have given him more time to develop at Derby'? You know, gain more experience
And I simply have nothing to say about the last paragraph. Please tell me how the board have no choice but to give him time? Don't have the faintest clue where your coming from with that opinion.
posted on 16/6/19
comment by Devil D.A. (U6522)
posted 1 minute ago
This is the best possible time for frank to manage us
The "he needs experience crew" are the most annoying people on the planet. No basis to them saying it. Sarri had experience, conte had experience, scolari had experience, avb had experience. At least lamps can grow with us.
To the "it will tarnish his legacy with us" crowd. To you I say grow the fack up and don't let it. He is our all time top scorer. Unlikely to be broken in our lifetimes. If a former ayer getting fired especially a legend like Chelsea will effect your view on him that's on you. Lamps is forever embedded in our history
Frank would be inspired. Yes he has something to learn but so does everyone. He will get time because the board have no choice
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So much wrong with this post.
You can like the idea of Lampard becoming our manager, nothing wrong with that, but denying the argument that he needs more experience because it doesn't suit your idealistic view is complete ignorance. This sort of tripe, it's different therefore it's good (which is the definition of a baseless argument), came from the same people who wanted Morris last year when the sane people suggested it might be too soon. And lo and behold in less than a year something better emerged from that ridiculous idea - he teamed up with Lampard. It's bloody hilarious you referencing AVB as "having experience", had six months more experience than Lampard, broke records all over the place in that time (which Lampard hasn't), and he completely bombed in large part because of his lack of experience. Do you really need anymore to go on to suggest maybe Lampard needs more time to fully understand his own style let alone make a jump to Chelsea than that? Or do you believe his Chelsea legend status automatically means there's no possibility of that?
I agree with the second paragraph, but your completely underestimating the fickle nature of the modern fan. Six years ago the idea Jose Mourinho would be seen as the enemy by us (rival manager or not) was absolutely absurd. Things change VERY quickly in football, your telling me there's no possibility of people looking at Lampard differently (maybe not badly, just differently) if he fails as a manager for us? Especially if he winds up becoming successful down the road after he fails, then we wind up thinking to ourselves, 'man, if only we'd have given him more time to develop at Derby'? You know, gain more experience
And I simply have nothing to say about the last paragraph. Please tell me how the board have no choice but to give him time? Don't have the faintest clue where your coming from with that opinion.
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There's nothing wrong with his post at all. What makes you the font of all knowledge about how things will turn out?
We've appointed experienced managers by the bus load that have failed.
There is no right or wrong about managerial appointments, any given appointment can turn into a nightmare and there's no evidence to say that a manager who hasn't even been appointed yet will be a bad appointment.
Mons opinion is just as opinion is as valid as the next persons - even yours!
posted on 16/6/19
It's bloody hilarious you referencing AVB as "having experience", had six months more experience than Lampard, broke records all over the place in that time (which Lampard hasn't), and he completely bombed in large part because of his lack of experience.
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Ironic that Lampard was one of the ones who gave AVB a hard time It would be karma if he struggled with player power as Chelsea manager wouldn't it. (Disclaimer: I am not saying I want that to happen, I'm just saying it would be fitting in a way)
posted on 16/6/19
There's nothing wrong with his post at all. What makes you the font of all knowledge about how things will turn out?
We've appointed experienced managers by the bus load that have failed.
There is no right or wrong about managerial appointments, any given appointment can turn into a nightmare and there's no evidence to say that a manager who hasn't even been appointed yet will be a bad appointment.
Mons opinion is just as opinion is as valid as the next persons - even yours!
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The idea that Lampard will fail if we appoint him now is based in reality - lacks managerial experience, never had to deal with top players in a managerial capacity, never had to deal with intensive media pressure (as an England player probably the worst it got), never managed in the PL, etc... the argument that now's the right time to appoint him is what exactly?
I don't mind people liking the idea of it, don't even have a problem with people arguing what I believe to be falsehoods to justify it (that's just my opinion against there/DL11's opinions on it spring to mind), when people suggest those logical arguments against hiring him have no basis because of generalizations like 'it's different' or 'we've tried experience and failed', that's when I have problems. We tried inexperience/long term growth with AVB and that failed enormously, so there's no basis for that argument what so ever.
posted on 16/6/19
It's bloody hilarious you referencing AVB as "having experience", had six months more experience than Lampard, broke records all over the place in that time (which Lampard hasn't), and he completely bombed in large part because of his lack of experience.
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Ironic that Lampard was one of the ones who gave AVB a hard time It would be karma if he struggled with player power as Chelsea manager wouldn't it. (Disclaimer: I am not saying I want that to happen, I'm just saying it would be fitting in a way)
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That actually brings up an interesting point funnily enough. Everyone seems to assume Lampard might oversee a total youth overhaul in the team but he should know more than anyone how much player power can dictate a managers destiny.
posted on 16/6/19
comment by Devil D.A. (U6522)
posted 14 minutes ago
There's nothing wrong with his post at all. What makes you the font of all knowledge about how things will turn out?
We've appointed experienced managers by the bus load that have failed.
There is no right or wrong about managerial appointments, any given appointment can turn into a nightmare and there's no evidence to say that a manager who hasn't even been appointed yet will be a bad appointment.
Mons opinion is just as opinion is as valid as the next persons - even yours!
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The idea that Lampard will fail if we appoint him now is based in reality - lacks managerial experience, never had to deal with top players in a managerial capacity, never had to deal with intensive media pressure (as an England player probably the worst it got), never managed in the PL, etc... the argument that now's the right time to appoint him is what exactly?
I don't mind people liking the idea of it, don't even have a problem with people arguing what I believe to be falsehoods to justify it (that's just my opinion against there/DL11's opinions on it spring to mind), when people suggest those logical arguments against hiring him have no basis because of generalizations like 'it's different' or 'we've tried experience and failed', that's when I have problems. We tried inexperience/long term growth with AVB and that failed enormously, so there's no basis for that argument what so ever.
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No it's not based on reality whatsoever, you really need to have a word with yourself and stop lecturing people with what may or may not happen in the future with a manager we haven't even appointed yet.
Let's get this straight - you do not have a clue about what will happen IF Frank Lampard DOES get appointed as our next manager.
It's people like you who talk down there noses at others with their so cok sure 'Opinions' that really get up my hooter!
If you don't think he'll be a good appointment, fine, I'm quite happy for you to have that opinion, but don't deliver that opinion as fact and a basis to try and ridicule some one else who doesn't share your wisdom.
I don't know if he'll be a good appointment but I'm not going to pi$$ on someone else's opinion because I think it's flawed.
posted on 16/6/19
I highly doubt the fans, media and club are going to be anymore patient with Lampard, than they have been with any other manager. There are so many question marks over his managerial experience, and I almost guarantee it will be talking point through next season. And this criticism will only get louder if we go through a periods of bad form.
Its probably one of the most risky appointments we have made in the Abramovich era. With Jose's return we kind of knew what to expect in terms of management; hence why so many were willing to be patient through some of his rough patches. Lampard isn't returning as a former manager, and there is no guarantee that he will be any good.
I'm frankly (lol) willing to give him a chance, but I've always wanted to stick by managers. However, I would certainly be much more confident going into next season with Sarri than I would be with Lampard.
posted on 16/6/19
comment by F♯ A♯ ∞ (U16342)
posted 3 minutes ago
I highly doubt the fans, media and club are going to be anymore patient with Lampard, than they have been with any other manager. There are so many question marks over his managerial experience, and I almost guarantee it will be talking point through next season. And this criticism will only get louder if we go through a periods of bad form.
Its probably one of the most risky appointments we have made in the Abramovich era. With Jose's return we kind of knew what to expect in terms of management; hence why so many were willing to be patient through some of his rough patches. Lampard isn't returning as a former manager, and there is no guarantee that he will be any good.
I'm frankly (lol) willing to give him a chance, but I've always wanted to stick by managers. However, I would certainly be much more confident going into next season with Sarri than I would be with Lampard.
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I'd be more confident going into next season with Sarri but the reality is that he's gone.
And with a weaker squad than the average one we had last season, with no opportunity to improve on it (unless the club have an ace up their sleeve with regard to the transfer ban) I don't see us being a very attractive proposition for for any high profile managers out there - unless they fancy taking a big financial pay off after getting sacked six months into the job!
posted on 17/6/19
No it's not based on reality whatsoever, you really need to have a word with yourself and stop lecturing people with what may or may not happen in the future with a manager we haven't even appointed yet.
Let's get this straight - you do not have a clue about what will happen IF Frank Lampard DOES get appointed as our next manager.
It's people like you who talk down there noses at others with their so cok sure 'Opinions' that really get up my hooter!
If you don't think he'll be a good appointment, fine, I'm quite happy for you to have that opinion, but don't deliver that opinion as fact and a basis to try and ridicule some one else who doesn't share your wisdom.
I don't know if he'll be a good appointment but I'm not going to pi$$ on someone else's opinion because I think it's flawed.
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Don't know where the hell that came from. He said the "he needs experience crew" had no basis for that opinion. That statement is false, implies experience is irrelevant, talks down on anyone who thinks as such and frankly is more disrespectful than anything in the tone of my replies. But w/e.
posted on 17/6/19
Personally i'm still amazed that Juve have seen fit to take Sarri off us & pay the compo to do so.
I was a staunch critic of him for a lage chunk of last term...but he came good when his head cleared about what our best 11 was
We won't be looking past Frankie the legend as our next boss...and given the project managers we've taken on in the last ten years or so...who's to know whether he's up to it
Ole is an exact comparison for him given his legendary status & inexperience as a manager, so who knows.
In the end it won't be Lampard on trial as such...it'll be the entire club given the mess we've got ourselves in with the transfer window situation, we still don't know if our youngsters are up to it, - we also have no idea what post Hazard football will be like.
Just gotta get behind Frank when he's appointed...& he will be.
keep the faith, we are winners...which is more than you can say for $puds & goonz
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