I think my comparisons are also true. Do you have the same views on the two Liverpool legends.
comment by Glazers_Out (SE85) (U21241)
posted 23 seconds ago
Fine player? He's the best midfielder in PL history.
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Exhibit A of the point I just made.
comment by manusince52 (U9692)
posted 1 minute ago
I think my comparisons are also true. Do you have the same views on the two Liverpool legends.
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Hmmm maybe. He seems to be a bit more critical in the media than Gerrard imo. Flapping his gums and being derogatory about stuff often.
comment by Robbing_Hoody - as a rule I don't trust a man who doesn't drink but I do trust James Milner (U6374)
posted 14 seconds ago
comment by manusince52 (U9692)
posted 1 minute ago
I think my comparisons are also true. Do you have the same views on the two Liverpool legends.
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Hmmm maybe. He seems to be a bit more critical in the media than Gerrard imo. Flapping his gums and being derogatory about stuff often.
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That's his job though I guess. Much like Souness I rarely see him say much positive though.
Gerrard individual honours.
Ballon d'Or third place: 2005
UEFA Club Footballer of the Year: 2005
PFA Players' Player of the Year: 2005–06
PFA Young Player of the Year: 2000–01
PFA Premier League Team of the Year: 2000–01,[256] 2003–04,[257] 2004–05,[258] 2005–06,[259] 2006–07,[260] 2007–08,[261] 2008–09,[262] 2013–14[263]
PFA Fans' Player of the Year: 2000–01, 2008–09
PFA Merit Award: 2015
FWA Tribute Award: 2013
FWA Footballer of the Year: 2008–09
IFFHS World's Most Popular Footballer: 2006
FA England Player of the Year Award: 2007, 2012
Liverpool F.C. Player of the Season: 2004, 2006, 2007, 2009
BBC Goal of the Season: 2006[264]
FIFA Club World Cup Silver Ball: 2005[265]
FIFA FIFPro World XI: 2007, 2008, 2009
FIFA FIFPro World XI 5th team: 2013[266]
UEFA Team of the Year: 2005, 2006, 2007
UEFA Ultimate Team of the Year[267]
UEFA Team of the Century[268]
UEFA European Championship Team of the Tournament: 2012
UEFA Champions League Final Man of The Match: 2005[269]
ESM Team of the Year: 2008–09
Premier League Player of the Month: March 2001, March 2003, December 2004, April 2006, March 2009, March 2014[270]
Premier League top assist provider: 2013–14[271]
Premier League 20 Seasons Awards (1992–93 to 2011–12)
Fantasy Teams of the 20 Seasons (Public choice)
MLS All-Star: 2015[272]
English Football Hall of Fame: 2017[273]
Match of the Day Premier League all-time XI: (published 2017)[274]
Scholes individual honours
Jimmy Murphy Young Player of the Year: 1992–93[144]
Premier League Player of the Month: January 2003, December 2003, October 2006, August 2010[141]
Premier League PFA Team of the Year: 2002–03,[145] 2006–07[146]
Premier League 10 Seasons Awards (1992–93 to 2001–02)
Domestic & Overall Team of the Decade
English Football Hall of Fame Inductee: 2008[147]
Premier League 20 Seasons Awards (1992–93 to 2011–12)
Fantasy Teams of the 20 Seasons (Panel & Public choice)
FWA Tribute Award: 2012[148]
FIFPro World XI Nominee: 2005, 2007[149]
This is actually when he played.
To compare Scholes to Gerrard is fantasy stuff. Top player but not close to Gerrard, as evidenced by the votes of their peers above at the time they both played.
comment by There'sOnlyOneReds (U1721)
posted 5 minutes ago
Gerrard individual honours.
Ballon d'Or third place: 2005
UEFA Club Footballer of the Year: 2005
PFA Players' Player of the Year: 2005–06
PFA Young Player of the Year: 2000–01
PFA Premier League Team of the Year: 2000–01,[256] 2003–04,[257] 2004–05,[258] 2005–06,[259] 2006–07,[260] 2007–08,[261] 2008–09,[262] 2013–14[263]
PFA Fans' Player of the Year: 2000–01, 2008–09
PFA Merit Award: 2015
FWA Tribute Award: 2013
FWA Footballer of the Year: 2008–09
IFFHS World's Most Popular Footballer: 2006
FA England Player of the Year Award: 2007, 2012
Liverpool F.C. Player of the Season: 2004, 2006, 2007, 2009
BBC Goal of the Season: 2006[264]
FIFA Club World Cup Silver Ball: 2005[265]
FIFA FIFPro World XI: 2007, 2008, 2009
FIFA FIFPro World XI 5th team: 2013[266]
UEFA Team of the Year: 2005, 2006, 2007
UEFA Ultimate Team of the Year[267]
UEFA Team of the Century[268]
UEFA European Championship Team of the Tournament: 2012
UEFA Champions League Final Man of The Match: 2005[269]
ESM Team of the Year: 2008–09
Premier League Player of the Month: March 2001, March 2003, December 2004, April 2006, March 2009, March 2014[270]
Premier League top assist provider: 2013–14[271]
Premier League 20 Seasons Awards (1992–93 to 2011–12)
Fantasy Teams of the 20 Seasons (Public choice)
MLS All-Star: 2015[272]
English Football Hall of Fame: 2017[273]
Match of the Day Premier League all-time XI: (published 2017)[274]
Scholes individual honours
Jimmy Murphy Young Player of the Year: 1992–93[144]
Premier League Player of the Month: January 2003, December 2003, October 2006, August 2010[141]
Premier League PFA Team of the Year: 2002–03,[145] 2006–07[146]
Premier League 10 Seasons Awards (1992–93 to 2001–02)
Domestic & Overall Team of the Decade
English Football Hall of Fame Inductee: 2008[147]
Premier League 20 Seasons Awards (1992–93 to 2011–12)
Fantasy Teams of the 20 Seasons (Panel & Public choice)
FWA Tribute Award: 2012[148]
FIFPro World XI Nominee: 2005, 2007[149]
This is actually when he played.
To compare Scholes to Gerrard is fantasy stuff. Top player but not close to Gerrard, as evidenced by the votes of their peers above at the time they both played.
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Not really a good indicator to use to determine who is a better player though is it? Xavi and Iniesta probably have less individual awards but doesn’t mean it would be fantasy stuff to compare them with Gerrard.
Toor still believes statistics prove everything. I don't k ow, or care, what awards the greats of the game have won, I know they are great and that is sufficient. Scholes and Gerrard played slightly different roles in different teams. Impossible to say who was best, Scholes suited our team and way of playing. But to say comparing them is fantasy is fantasy in itself.
keane and viera probably didn't get as many individual accolades as gerrard/scholes but many would argue they were better players than both of those
It's subjective at the level these players got to, all top top midfield players.
I always find the argument of who is better, when you're talking about the top players, boring.
It's Roy Keane though
comment by Robbing_Hoody - as a rule I don't trust a man who doesn't drink but I do trust James Milner (U6374)
posted 13 minutes ago
comment by Elvis (U7425)
posted 8 seconds ago
comment by Robbing_Hoody - as a rule I don't trust a man who doesn't drink but I do trust James Milner (U6374)
posted 1 minute ago
comment by Giggs#11 (U19135)
posted 7 minutes ago
comment by Robbing_Hoody - as a rule I don't trust a man who doesn't drink but I do trust James Milner (U6374)
posted 1 minute ago
comment by Greatteamswinit4times- a terrible enemy (U6008)
posted 4 minutes ago
Scholes has always be a little rat on and off the pitch. Not sure quite why he is held in such high regard. Dirty little facker when playing. Used to cry about being shy to avoid media commitments then shows up every other week when he retires. Retired from the national team early. Regularly talks rubbish on TV and then left his club after 2 months, seemingly because he was placing bets whilst being manager.
He's a piece of sh 1t.
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This
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This is just bitterness because he has 11 more prem titles than Liverpool.
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Nah fine player but the above is all true tbf
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No, its just a very one-sided and bitter slant on the truth. That bit about him being dirty is true tough.
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No it's an appraisal of his actions as a human being. Feel free to point out which bit isn't true.
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Nah, really can't be bothered wasting hours arguing with the wumards today.
comment by Elvis (U7425)
posted 15 seconds ago
comment by Robbing_Hoody - as a rule I don't trust a man who doesn't drink but I do trust James Milner (U6374)
posted 13 minutes ago
comment by Elvis (U7425)
posted 8 seconds ago
comment by Robbing_Hoody - as a rule I don't trust a man who doesn't drink but I do trust James Milner (U6374)
posted 1 minute ago
comment by Giggs#11 (U19135)
posted 7 minutes ago
comment by Robbing_Hoody - as a rule I don't trust a man who doesn't drink but I do trust James Milner (U6374)
posted 1 minute ago
comment by Greatteamswinit4times- a terrible enemy (U6008)
posted 4 minutes ago
Scholes has always be a little rat on and off the pitch. Not sure quite why he is held in such high regard. Dirty little facker when playing. Used to cry about being shy to avoid media commitments then shows up every other week when he retires. Retired from the national team early. Regularly talks rubbish on TV and then left his club after 2 months, seemingly because he was placing bets whilst being manager.
He's a piece of sh 1t.
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This
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This is just bitterness because he has 11 more prem titles than Liverpool.
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Nah fine player but the above is all true tbf
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No, its just a very one-sided and bitter slant on the truth. That bit about him being dirty is true tough.
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No it's an appraisal of his actions as a human being. Feel free to point out which bit isn't true.
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Nah, really can't be bothered wasting hours arguing with the wumards today.
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"I can't" would have covered it.
But that wouldn't have been the truth though.
It's subjective at the level these players got to, all top top midfield players.
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true, but then you get guys who are horrified and take offence when you try compare two brilliant players to as if your comparing say viera with joey barton
Well it would.
Everything written there is true. I must say it's becoming increasingly amusing to see moronic comments about "dippers" being sensitive when you see reactions like this.
He was dirty.
He did quit England
He did bet on football
He did absolve himself from media duties and now he does a lot if work on it.
It's not even up for debate tbh. Sorry.
comment by kneerash-23 Cara Gold (U6876)
posted 44 minutes ago
comment by Paulpowersleftfoot (U1037)
posted 6 minutes ago
comment by kneerash-23 Cara Gold (U6876)
posted 2 minutes ago
comment by Ji Sung Park's Cousin - Ole's joy sq... (U2958)
posted 2 minutes ago
Imagine being a city fan so consumed by UTD... must be a burden
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Sure they barley celebrated a historic treble
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30 year itch consuming the dipper
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Mate we're living in your heads from the fan on yhe internet to Pep.
You know this to be true
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Thats rich coming from Liverpool fans, basically camped on all rival boards.
comment by Glazers_Out (SE85) (U21241)
posted 33 minutes ago
They barely celebrated as deep down they know it's all hollow and hardly an achievement. I'd wager any PL club being ran by a middle Eastern country would have a fair shout at doing what City have. Sense of inevitability about it all.
Still prefer them to the rats though.
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Dont let facts get in the way of a good wum
comment by Yoda's big brother Hulk (U1250)
posted 5 minutes ago
comment by kneerash-23 Cara Gold (U6876)
posted 44 minutes ago
comment by Paulpowersleftfoot (U1037)
posted 6 minutes ago
comment by kneerash-23 Cara Gold (U6876)
posted 2 minutes ago
comment by Ji Sung Park's Cousin - Ole's joy sq... (U2958)
posted 2 minutes ago
Imagine being a city fan so consumed by UTD... must be a burden
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Sure they barley celebrated a historic treble
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30 year itch consuming the dipper
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Mate we're living in your heads from the fan on yhe internet to Pep.
You know this to be true
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Thats rich coming from Liverpool fans, basically camped on all rival boards.
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Feck me you're probably the dumbest person on here, how the hell did you ever get through Irish customs...
PEOPLE COMING ON A WEBSITE LITERALLY MADE TO ALLOW CROSS SUPPORT DEBATE USING IT FOR CROSS SUPPORT DEBATE ARE THEY!?!?
UNFVCKINGBELIEVABLE!
comment by There'sOnlyOneReds (U1721)
posted 27 minutes ago
comment by Glazers_Out (SE85) (U21241)
posted 23 seconds ago
Fine player? He's the best midfielder in PL history.
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Exhibit A of the point I just made.
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Exhibit what. Thierry Henry is widely regarded as one of the best players ever to play in England. He said it, not me.
Scholes was better. End of. Gerrard was excellent too but didn't quite have that instinctive genius about him like Scholes, Iniesta and Zidane. He was more Roy of the Rovers type.
Well if Henry says it then that's it
comment by vidicthelegend VIVA LA REVOLUTION (U8735)
posted 33 minutes ago
I read that article and thought a solid 5k return on 25k worth of bets is decent going
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Exactly my main take away from the article too
comment by Robbing_Hoody - as a rule I don't trust a man who doesn't drink but I do trust James Milner (U6374)
posted 8 minutes ago
Well it would.
Everything written there is true. I must say it's becoming increasingly amusing to see moronic comments about "dippers" being sensitive when you see reactions like this.
He was dirty.
He did quit England
He did bet on football
He did absolve himself from media duties and now he does a lot if work on it.
It's not even up for debate tbh. Sorry.
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Ok, my last comment on this.
Yes, he was dirty. No question of that.
Yes he quit England, but the comment was that he quit too early. Who is anyone other than the player in question to comment on what too early is?
Yes, he bet on football. But the comment suggested that that was why he quit Oldham. Where is the evidence of this? Scholes himself has given different reasons for leaving the club.
Yes he avoided media commitments previously. But he was a player then. He wanted to concentrate on his football and his family. Now he has retired from football he has time for a media career/commitments, for which he gets paid. Its his job.
So yes, as I said, a very slanted and bitter version of the truth.
Its still true.
It said he retired early actually and he did because he kept playing football. He said he was too shy for media and now he's not. Youre looking for something that isnt there. Sorry for having an opinion on the matter though.
Close the site please. It's all pointless.
comment by Robbing_Hoody - as a rule I don't trust a man who doesn't drink but I do trust James Milner (U6374)
posted 6 minutes ago
Well if Henry says it then that's it
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He's not alone. Guardiola said that Scholes was the only English player he'd want at Barca whilst manager. This was prior to the CL final with them.
You just don't like it because he's a Utd legend. Gerrard was class but he wasn't a genius. He was a Roy of the rovers maverick and a very good player. Scholes was just superior.
I actually hold David Silva above Gerrard now too. Just. It's not a rival thing as I'm no fan of them lot either. I think those two are genius types like Zidane. Never believed Gerrard n Lampard were.
I'm all for cross rivalry debate and have done plenty. But at the moment there doesn't seem to be any debate, it seems to be mainly two or three Liverpool fans coming on our board being either sarcastic, sneery, condescending , because your team is on a high whilst we are on a low. Any comments back are met with, it's just an opinion, debate it or some such. We can hardly have an article without the same type of comments, it derails plenty of posts and gets tiresome.
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posted on 19/6/19
I think my comparisons are also true. Do you have the same views on the two Liverpool legends.
posted on 19/6/19
comment by Glazers_Out (SE85) (U21241)
posted 23 seconds ago
Fine player? He's the best midfielder in PL history.
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Exhibit A of the point I just made.
posted on 19/6/19
comment by manusince52 (U9692)
posted 1 minute ago
I think my comparisons are also true. Do you have the same views on the two Liverpool legends.
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Hmmm maybe. He seems to be a bit more critical in the media than Gerrard imo. Flapping his gums and being derogatory about stuff often.
posted on 19/6/19
comment by Robbing_Hoody - as a rule I don't trust a man who doesn't drink but I do trust James Milner (U6374)
posted 14 seconds ago
comment by manusince52 (U9692)
posted 1 minute ago
I think my comparisons are also true. Do you have the same views on the two Liverpool legends.
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Hmmm maybe. He seems to be a bit more critical in the media than Gerrard imo. Flapping his gums and being derogatory about stuff often.
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That's his job though I guess. Much like Souness I rarely see him say much positive though.
posted on 19/6/19
Gerrard individual honours.
Ballon d'Or third place: 2005
UEFA Club Footballer of the Year: 2005
PFA Players' Player of the Year: 2005–06
PFA Young Player of the Year: 2000–01
PFA Premier League Team of the Year: 2000–01,[256] 2003–04,[257] 2004–05,[258] 2005–06,[259] 2006–07,[260] 2007–08,[261] 2008–09,[262] 2013–14[263]
PFA Fans' Player of the Year: 2000–01, 2008–09
PFA Merit Award: 2015
FWA Tribute Award: 2013
FWA Footballer of the Year: 2008–09
IFFHS World's Most Popular Footballer: 2006
FA England Player of the Year Award: 2007, 2012
Liverpool F.C. Player of the Season: 2004, 2006, 2007, 2009
BBC Goal of the Season: 2006[264]
FIFA Club World Cup Silver Ball: 2005[265]
FIFA FIFPro World XI: 2007, 2008, 2009
FIFA FIFPro World XI 5th team: 2013[266]
UEFA Team of the Year: 2005, 2006, 2007
UEFA Ultimate Team of the Year[267]
UEFA Team of the Century[268]
UEFA European Championship Team of the Tournament: 2012
UEFA Champions League Final Man of The Match: 2005[269]
ESM Team of the Year: 2008–09
Premier League Player of the Month: March 2001, March 2003, December 2004, April 2006, March 2009, March 2014[270]
Premier League top assist provider: 2013–14[271]
Premier League 20 Seasons Awards (1992–93 to 2011–12)
Fantasy Teams of the 20 Seasons (Public choice)
MLS All-Star: 2015[272]
English Football Hall of Fame: 2017[273]
Match of the Day Premier League all-time XI: (published 2017)[274]
Scholes individual honours
Jimmy Murphy Young Player of the Year: 1992–93[144]
Premier League Player of the Month: January 2003, December 2003, October 2006, August 2010[141]
Premier League PFA Team of the Year: 2002–03,[145] 2006–07[146]
Premier League 10 Seasons Awards (1992–93 to 2001–02)
Domestic & Overall Team of the Decade
English Football Hall of Fame Inductee: 2008[147]
Premier League 20 Seasons Awards (1992–93 to 2011–12)
Fantasy Teams of the 20 Seasons (Panel & Public choice)
FWA Tribute Award: 2012[148]
FIFPro World XI Nominee: 2005, 2007[149]
This is actually when he played.
To compare Scholes to Gerrard is fantasy stuff. Top player but not close to Gerrard, as evidenced by the votes of their peers above at the time they both played.
posted on 19/6/19
comment by There'sOnlyOneReds (U1721)
posted 5 minutes ago
Gerrard individual honours.
Ballon d'Or third place: 2005
UEFA Club Footballer of the Year: 2005
PFA Players' Player of the Year: 2005–06
PFA Young Player of the Year: 2000–01
PFA Premier League Team of the Year: 2000–01,[256] 2003–04,[257] 2004–05,[258] 2005–06,[259] 2006–07,[260] 2007–08,[261] 2008–09,[262] 2013–14[263]
PFA Fans' Player of the Year: 2000–01, 2008–09
PFA Merit Award: 2015
FWA Tribute Award: 2013
FWA Footballer of the Year: 2008–09
IFFHS World's Most Popular Footballer: 2006
FA England Player of the Year Award: 2007, 2012
Liverpool F.C. Player of the Season: 2004, 2006, 2007, 2009
BBC Goal of the Season: 2006[264]
FIFA Club World Cup Silver Ball: 2005[265]
FIFA FIFPro World XI: 2007, 2008, 2009
FIFA FIFPro World XI 5th team: 2013[266]
UEFA Team of the Year: 2005, 2006, 2007
UEFA Ultimate Team of the Year[267]
UEFA Team of the Century[268]
UEFA European Championship Team of the Tournament: 2012
UEFA Champions League Final Man of The Match: 2005[269]
ESM Team of the Year: 2008–09
Premier League Player of the Month: March 2001, March 2003, December 2004, April 2006, March 2009, March 2014[270]
Premier League top assist provider: 2013–14[271]
Premier League 20 Seasons Awards (1992–93 to 2011–12)
Fantasy Teams of the 20 Seasons (Public choice)
MLS All-Star: 2015[272]
English Football Hall of Fame: 2017[273]
Match of the Day Premier League all-time XI: (published 2017)[274]
Scholes individual honours
Jimmy Murphy Young Player of the Year: 1992–93[144]
Premier League Player of the Month: January 2003, December 2003, October 2006, August 2010[141]
Premier League PFA Team of the Year: 2002–03,[145] 2006–07[146]
Premier League 10 Seasons Awards (1992–93 to 2001–02)
Domestic & Overall Team of the Decade
English Football Hall of Fame Inductee: 2008[147]
Premier League 20 Seasons Awards (1992–93 to 2011–12)
Fantasy Teams of the 20 Seasons (Panel & Public choice)
FWA Tribute Award: 2012[148]
FIFPro World XI Nominee: 2005, 2007[149]
This is actually when he played.
To compare Scholes to Gerrard is fantasy stuff. Top player but not close to Gerrard, as evidenced by the votes of their peers above at the time they both played.
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Not really a good indicator to use to determine who is a better player though is it? Xavi and Iniesta probably have less individual awards but doesn’t mean it would be fantasy stuff to compare them with Gerrard.
posted on 19/6/19
Toor still believes statistics prove everything. I don't k ow, or care, what awards the greats of the game have won, I know they are great and that is sufficient. Scholes and Gerrard played slightly different roles in different teams. Impossible to say who was best, Scholes suited our team and way of playing. But to say comparing them is fantasy is fantasy in itself.
posted on 19/6/19
keane and viera probably didn't get as many individual accolades as gerrard/scholes but many would argue they were better players than both of those
posted on 19/6/19
It's subjective at the level these players got to, all top top midfield players.
I always find the argument of who is better, when you're talking about the top players, boring.
It's Roy Keane though
posted on 19/6/19
comment by Robbing_Hoody - as a rule I don't trust a man who doesn't drink but I do trust James Milner (U6374)
posted 13 minutes ago
comment by Elvis (U7425)
posted 8 seconds ago
comment by Robbing_Hoody - as a rule I don't trust a man who doesn't drink but I do trust James Milner (U6374)
posted 1 minute ago
comment by Giggs#11 (U19135)
posted 7 minutes ago
comment by Robbing_Hoody - as a rule I don't trust a man who doesn't drink but I do trust James Milner (U6374)
posted 1 minute ago
comment by Greatteamswinit4times- a terrible enemy (U6008)
posted 4 minutes ago
Scholes has always be a little rat on and off the pitch. Not sure quite why he is held in such high regard. Dirty little facker when playing. Used to cry about being shy to avoid media commitments then shows up every other week when he retires. Retired from the national team early. Regularly talks rubbish on TV and then left his club after 2 months, seemingly because he was placing bets whilst being manager.
He's a piece of sh 1t.
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This
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This is just bitterness because he has 11 more prem titles than Liverpool.
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Nah fine player but the above is all true tbf
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No, its just a very one-sided and bitter slant on the truth. That bit about him being dirty is true tough.
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No it's an appraisal of his actions as a human being. Feel free to point out which bit isn't true.
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Nah, really can't be bothered wasting hours arguing with the wumards today.
posted on 19/6/19
comment by Elvis (U7425)
posted 15 seconds ago
comment by Robbing_Hoody - as a rule I don't trust a man who doesn't drink but I do trust James Milner (U6374)
posted 13 minutes ago
comment by Elvis (U7425)
posted 8 seconds ago
comment by Robbing_Hoody - as a rule I don't trust a man who doesn't drink but I do trust James Milner (U6374)
posted 1 minute ago
comment by Giggs#11 (U19135)
posted 7 minutes ago
comment by Robbing_Hoody - as a rule I don't trust a man who doesn't drink but I do trust James Milner (U6374)
posted 1 minute ago
comment by Greatteamswinit4times- a terrible enemy (U6008)
posted 4 minutes ago
Scholes has always be a little rat on and off the pitch. Not sure quite why he is held in such high regard. Dirty little facker when playing. Used to cry about being shy to avoid media commitments then shows up every other week when he retires. Retired from the national team early. Regularly talks rubbish on TV and then left his club after 2 months, seemingly because he was placing bets whilst being manager.
He's a piece of sh 1t.
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This
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This is just bitterness because he has 11 more prem titles than Liverpool.
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Nah fine player but the above is all true tbf
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No, its just a very one-sided and bitter slant on the truth. That bit about him being dirty is true tough.
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No it's an appraisal of his actions as a human being. Feel free to point out which bit isn't true.
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Nah, really can't be bothered wasting hours arguing with the wumards today.
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"I can't" would have covered it.
posted on 19/6/19
But that wouldn't have been the truth though.
posted on 19/6/19
It's subjective at the level these players got to, all top top midfield players.
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true, but then you get guys who are horrified and take offence when you try compare two brilliant players to as if your comparing say viera with joey barton
posted on 19/6/19
Well it would.
Everything written there is true. I must say it's becoming increasingly amusing to see moronic comments about "dippers" being sensitive when you see reactions like this.
He was dirty.
He did quit England
He did bet on football
He did absolve himself from media duties and now he does a lot if work on it.
It's not even up for debate tbh. Sorry.
posted on 19/6/19
comment by kneerash-23 Cara Gold (U6876)
posted 44 minutes ago
comment by Paulpowersleftfoot (U1037)
posted 6 minutes ago
comment by kneerash-23 Cara Gold (U6876)
posted 2 minutes ago
comment by Ji Sung Park's Cousin - Ole's joy sq... (U2958)
posted 2 minutes ago
Imagine being a city fan so consumed by UTD... must be a burden
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Sure they barley celebrated a historic treble
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30 year itch consuming the dipper
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Mate we're living in your heads from the fan on yhe internet to Pep.
You know this to be true
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Thats rich coming from Liverpool fans, basically camped on all rival boards.
posted on 19/6/19
comment by Glazers_Out (SE85) (U21241)
posted 33 minutes ago
They barely celebrated as deep down they know it's all hollow and hardly an achievement. I'd wager any PL club being ran by a middle Eastern country would have a fair shout at doing what City have. Sense of inevitability about it all.
Still prefer them to the rats though.
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Dont let facts get in the way of a good wum
posted on 19/6/19
comment by Yoda's big brother Hulk (U1250)
posted 5 minutes ago
comment by kneerash-23 Cara Gold (U6876)
posted 44 minutes ago
comment by Paulpowersleftfoot (U1037)
posted 6 minutes ago
comment by kneerash-23 Cara Gold (U6876)
posted 2 minutes ago
comment by Ji Sung Park's Cousin - Ole's joy sq... (U2958)
posted 2 minutes ago
Imagine being a city fan so consumed by UTD... must be a burden
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Sure they barley celebrated a historic treble
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30 year itch consuming the dipper
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Mate we're living in your heads from the fan on yhe internet to Pep.
You know this to be true
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Thats rich coming from Liverpool fans, basically camped on all rival boards.
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Feck me you're probably the dumbest person on here, how the hell did you ever get through Irish customs...
posted on 19/6/19
PEOPLE COMING ON A WEBSITE LITERALLY MADE TO ALLOW CROSS SUPPORT DEBATE USING IT FOR CROSS SUPPORT DEBATE ARE THEY!?!?
UNFVCKINGBELIEVABLE!
posted on 19/6/19
comment by There'sOnlyOneReds (U1721)
posted 27 minutes ago
comment by Glazers_Out (SE85) (U21241)
posted 23 seconds ago
Fine player? He's the best midfielder in PL history.
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Exhibit A of the point I just made.
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Exhibit what. Thierry Henry is widely regarded as one of the best players ever to play in England. He said it, not me.
Scholes was better. End of. Gerrard was excellent too but didn't quite have that instinctive genius about him like Scholes, Iniesta and Zidane. He was more Roy of the Rovers type.
posted on 19/6/19
Well if Henry says it then that's it
posted on 19/6/19
comment by vidicthelegend VIVA LA REVOLUTION (U8735)
posted 33 minutes ago
I read that article and thought a solid 5k return on 25k worth of bets is decent going
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Exactly my main take away from the article too
posted on 19/6/19
comment by Robbing_Hoody - as a rule I don't trust a man who doesn't drink but I do trust James Milner (U6374)
posted 8 minutes ago
Well it would.
Everything written there is true. I must say it's becoming increasingly amusing to see moronic comments about "dippers" being sensitive when you see reactions like this.
He was dirty.
He did quit England
He did bet on football
He did absolve himself from media duties and now he does a lot if work on it.
It's not even up for debate tbh. Sorry.
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Ok, my last comment on this.
Yes, he was dirty. No question of that.
Yes he quit England, but the comment was that he quit too early. Who is anyone other than the player in question to comment on what too early is?
Yes, he bet on football. But the comment suggested that that was why he quit Oldham. Where is the evidence of this? Scholes himself has given different reasons for leaving the club.
Yes he avoided media commitments previously. But he was a player then. He wanted to concentrate on his football and his family. Now he has retired from football he has time for a media career/commitments, for which he gets paid. Its his job.
So yes, as I said, a very slanted and bitter version of the truth.
posted on 19/6/19
Its still true.
It said he retired early actually and he did because he kept playing football. He said he was too shy for media and now he's not. Youre looking for something that isnt there. Sorry for having an opinion on the matter though.
Close the site please. It's all pointless.
posted on 19/6/19
comment by Robbing_Hoody - as a rule I don't trust a man who doesn't drink but I do trust James Milner (U6374)
posted 6 minutes ago
Well if Henry says it then that's it
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He's not alone. Guardiola said that Scholes was the only English player he'd want at Barca whilst manager. This was prior to the CL final with them.
You just don't like it because he's a Utd legend. Gerrard was class but he wasn't a genius. He was a Roy of the rovers maverick and a very good player. Scholes was just superior.
I actually hold David Silva above Gerrard now too. Just. It's not a rival thing as I'm no fan of them lot either. I think those two are genius types like Zidane. Never believed Gerrard n Lampard were.
posted on 19/6/19
I'm all for cross rivalry debate and have done plenty. But at the moment there doesn't seem to be any debate, it seems to be mainly two or three Liverpool fans coming on our board being either sarcastic, sneery, condescending , because your team is on a high whilst we are on a low. Any comments back are met with, it's just an opinion, debate it or some such. We can hardly have an article without the same type of comments, it derails plenty of posts and gets tiresome.
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