comment by manusince52 (U9692)
posted 9 minutes ago
Nothing to do with licencing cyclists but civil insurance. You may be getting bored but you have to read before replying.
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Well my comment about data is linked to losses by people from cyclists, so it's linked to the licencing point.
๐๐๐Allison Chains๐๐๐ (U3979)
The suggestion is every member of the UK should have the insurance - it would be compulsory.
Dress it up how you like, it would be a tax.
Diafol Coch 77 (U2462)
Most cyclists I know also drive.
Most people I hear ranting about cyclists don't cycle.
Who here JA606's and drives?
comment by Winston (U16525)
posted 5 minutes ago
Diafol Coch 77 (U2462)
Most cyclists I know also drive.
Most people I hear ranting about cyclists don't cycle.
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Which possibly explains why it seems that cyclists are the ones who get criticised most.
comment by Ruiney (U1005)
posted 17 minutes ago
Haven’t read the last 13 pages but I’ll presume a reasoned debate about cyclists was had by all.
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It's been fractious at times but generally quite a decent discussion.
comment by Diafol Coch 77 (U2462)
posted 11 seconds ago
comment by Winston (U16525)
posted 5 minutes ago
Diafol Coch 77 (U2462)
Most cyclists I know also drive.
Most people I hear ranting about cyclists don't cycle.
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Which possibly explains why it seems that cyclists are the ones who get criticised most.
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Exactly.
And as I said earlier, imo many people get frustrated at waiting for cyclists and think they own the road, so they then try to create a rational reason for disliking cyclists.
You can't just say dress it up how you like. It's not a tax and wouldn't go to the state.
comment by Winston (U16525)
posted 1 minute ago
comment by Diafol Coch 77 (U2462)
posted 11 seconds ago
comment by Winston (U16525)
posted 5 minutes ago
Diafol Coch 77 (U2462)
Most cyclists I know also drive.
Most people I hear ranting about cyclists don't cycle.
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Which possibly explains why it seems that cyclists are the ones who get criticised most.
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Exactly.
And as I said earlier, imo many people get frustrated at waiting for cyclists and think they own the road, so they then try to create a rational reason for disliking cyclists.
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I'll be honest. I find myself equally frustrated by drivers and cyclists. I'll also admit to being more annoyed by cyclists (maybe the bias coming into play here) as I realise how vulnerable they are and their sometimes reckless moves frustrate me.
comment by Winston (U16525)
posted 11 minutes ago
๐๐๐Allison Chains๐๐๐ (U3979)
The suggestion is every member of the UK should have the insurance - it would be compulsory.
Dress it up how you like, it would be a tax.
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But Winston it literally is not a tax. You are wrong.
I get what you're saying, doesn't make it right.
Diafol Coch 77 (U2462)
I used to dislike cyclists. Then I became one.
Now I get irritated with all idiots on the road but am able to measure that irritation accordingly.
For example, a guy blatantly speeding in a built up area irritates me a lot more than a cyclist going through a red.
๐๐๐Allison Chains๐๐๐ (U3979)
You're not actually correct but I don't think a semantics debate about the definition of tax would be beneficial to this thread, so let's agree to disagree.
My main grievance, becuse it affects me the most, is walking in the pedestrian area of the town and having to watch out for bikes, occasionally ridden recklessly or even if not.
comment by manusince52 (U9692)
posted 1 minute ago
My main grievance, becuse it affects me the most, is walking in the pedestrian area of the town and having to watch out for bikes, occasionally ridden recklessly or even if not.
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This is true. It’s not often you get people driving on the pavement.
comment by manusince52 (U9692)
posted 1 minute ago
My main grievance, becuse it affects me the most, is walking in the pedestrian area of the town and having to watch out for bikes, occasionally ridden recklessly or even if not.
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Which is fine.
The problem comes when you bring that into a debate about licensing or insurance.
comment by Ed The King Woodward (U10026)
posted 19 seconds ago
comment by manusince52 (U9692)
posted 1 minute ago
My main grievance, becuse it affects me the most, is walking in the pedestrian area of the town and having to watch out for bikes, occasionally ridden recklessly or even if not.
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This is true. It’s not often you get people driving on the pavement.
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Yet the vast majority of pedestrians deaths, on the pavement, are caused by drivers.
comment by Winston (U16525)
posted 7 minutes ago
comment by Diafol Coch 77 (U2462)
posted 11 seconds ago
comment by Winston (U16525)
posted 5 minutes ago
Diafol Coch 77 (U2462)
Most cyclists I know also drive.
Most people I hear ranting about cyclists don't cycle.
----------------------------------------------------------------------
Which possibly explains why it seems that cyclists are the ones who get criticised most.
----------------------------------------------------------------------
Exactly.
And as I said earlier, imo many people get frustrated at waiting for cyclists and think they own the road, so they then try to create a rational reason for disliking cyclists.
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talk about generalising
Basic summary is that everyone knows cyclists are generally caants and act like the rules don't apply to them, but that's because they more or less don't apply, and there's no feasible or realistic way to enforce the same rules of the road as for car drivers (aka murderers). So people need to just accept that they don't often hurt people, despite acting like tw@ts and annoying everybody, and just give them a bit of room to do their thing.
comment by Pranks- European Champions (U6283)
posted 5 hours, 43 minutes ago
I worked In london for years, their awful on those roads
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Talk about generalising
Pranks- European Champions (U6283)
Not sure you understand what a generalisation is.
comment by Mike (U1170)
posted 44 seconds ago
Basic summary is that everyone knows cyclists are generally caants and act like the rules don't apply to them, but that's because they more or less don't apply, and there's no feasible or realistic way to enforce the same rules of the road as for car drivers (aka murderers). So people need to just accept that they don't often hurt people, despite acting like tw@ts and annoying everybody, and just give them a bit of room to do their thing.
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That probably sums it up. Cyclists annoy drivers. Drivers kill cyclists. Pedestrians stab people and rob banks. It's a reasonable conclusion.
comment by Mike (U1170)
posted 1 minute ago
Basic summary is that everyone knows cyclists are generally caants and act like the rules don't apply to them, but that's because they more or less don't apply, and there's no feasible or realistic way to enforce the same rules of the road as for car drivers (aka murderers). So people need to just accept that they don't often hurt people, despite acting like tw@ts and annoying everybody, and just give them a bit of room to do their thing.
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I have never once said licencing.
comment by manusince52 (U9692)
posted 10 seconds ago
I have never once said licencing.
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But you joined a thread and a debate about it.
Sign in if you want to comment
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posted on 25/6/19
comment by manusince52 (U9692)
posted 9 minutes ago
Nothing to do with licencing cyclists but civil insurance. You may be getting bored but you have to read before replying.
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Well my comment about data is linked to losses by people from cyclists, so it's linked to the licencing point.
posted on 25/6/19
๐๐๐Allison Chains๐๐๐ (U3979)
The suggestion is every member of the UK should have the insurance - it would be compulsory.
Dress it up how you like, it would be a tax.
posted on 25/6/19
Diafol Coch 77 (U2462)
Most cyclists I know also drive.
Most people I hear ranting about cyclists don't cycle.
posted on 25/6/19
Who here JA606's and drives?
posted on 25/6/19
comment by Winston (U16525)
posted 5 minutes ago
Diafol Coch 77 (U2462)
Most cyclists I know also drive.
Most people I hear ranting about cyclists don't cycle.
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Which possibly explains why it seems that cyclists are the ones who get criticised most.
posted on 25/6/19
comment by Ruiney (U1005)
posted 17 minutes ago
Haven’t read the last 13 pages but I’ll presume a reasoned debate about cyclists was had by all.
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It's been fractious at times but generally quite a decent discussion.
posted on 25/6/19
comment by Diafol Coch 77 (U2462)
posted 11 seconds ago
comment by Winston (U16525)
posted 5 minutes ago
Diafol Coch 77 (U2462)
Most cyclists I know also drive.
Most people I hear ranting about cyclists don't cycle.
----------------------------------------------------------------------
Which possibly explains why it seems that cyclists are the ones who get criticised most.
----------------------------------------------------------------------
Exactly.
And as I said earlier, imo many people get frustrated at waiting for cyclists and think they own the road, so they then try to create a rational reason for disliking cyclists.
posted on 25/6/19
You can't just say dress it up how you like. It's not a tax and wouldn't go to the state.
posted on 25/6/19
comment by Winston (U16525)
posted 1 minute ago
comment by Diafol Coch 77 (U2462)
posted 11 seconds ago
comment by Winston (U16525)
posted 5 minutes ago
Diafol Coch 77 (U2462)
Most cyclists I know also drive.
Most people I hear ranting about cyclists don't cycle.
----------------------------------------------------------------------
Which possibly explains why it seems that cyclists are the ones who get criticised most.
----------------------------------------------------------------------
Exactly.
And as I said earlier, imo many people get frustrated at waiting for cyclists and think they own the road, so they then try to create a rational reason for disliking cyclists.
----------------------------------------------------------------------
I'll be honest. I find myself equally frustrated by drivers and cyclists. I'll also admit to being more annoyed by cyclists (maybe the bias coming into play here) as I realise how vulnerable they are and their sometimes reckless moves frustrate me.
posted on 25/6/19
comment by Winston (U16525)
posted 11 minutes ago
๐๐๐Allison Chains๐๐๐ (U3979)
The suggestion is every member of the UK should have the insurance - it would be compulsory.
Dress it up how you like, it would be a tax.
----------------------------------------------------------------------
But Winston it literally is not a tax. You are wrong.
I get what you're saying, doesn't make it right.
posted on 25/6/19
Diafol Coch 77 (U2462)
I used to dislike cyclists. Then I became one.
Now I get irritated with all idiots on the road but am able to measure that irritation accordingly.
For example, a guy blatantly speeding in a built up area irritates me a lot more than a cyclist going through a red.
posted on 25/6/19
๐๐๐Allison Chains๐๐๐ (U3979)
You're not actually correct but I don't think a semantics debate about the definition of tax would be beneficial to this thread, so let's agree to disagree.
posted on 25/6/19
My main grievance, becuse it affects me the most, is walking in the pedestrian area of the town and having to watch out for bikes, occasionally ridden recklessly or even if not.
posted on 25/6/19
comment by manusince52 (U9692)
posted 1 minute ago
My main grievance, becuse it affects me the most, is walking in the pedestrian area of the town and having to watch out for bikes, occasionally ridden recklessly or even if not.
----------------------------------------------------------------------
This is true. It’s not often you get people driving on the pavement.
posted on 25/6/19
comment by manusince52 (U9692)
posted 1 minute ago
My main grievance, becuse it affects me the most, is walking in the pedestrian area of the town and having to watch out for bikes, occasionally ridden recklessly or even if not.
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Which is fine.
The problem comes when you bring that into a debate about licensing or insurance.
posted on 25/6/19
comment by Ed The King Woodward (U10026)
posted 19 seconds ago
comment by manusince52 (U9692)
posted 1 minute ago
My main grievance, becuse it affects me the most, is walking in the pedestrian area of the town and having to watch out for bikes, occasionally ridden recklessly or even if not.
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This is true. It’s not often you get people driving on the pavement.
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Yet the vast majority of pedestrians deaths, on the pavement, are caused by drivers.
posted on 25/6/19
Pedestrians stab people
posted on 25/6/19
comment by Winston (U16525)
posted 7 minutes ago
comment by Diafol Coch 77 (U2462)
posted 11 seconds ago
comment by Winston (U16525)
posted 5 minutes ago
Diafol Coch 77 (U2462)
Most cyclists I know also drive.
Most people I hear ranting about cyclists don't cycle.
----------------------------------------------------------------------
Which possibly explains why it seems that cyclists are the ones who get criticised most.
----------------------------------------------------------------------
Exactly.
And as I said earlier, imo many people get frustrated at waiting for cyclists and think they own the road, so they then try to create a rational reason for disliking cyclists.
----------------------------------------------------------------------
talk about generalising
posted on 25/6/19
Basic summary is that everyone knows cyclists are generally caants and act like the rules don't apply to them, but that's because they more or less don't apply, and there's no feasible or realistic way to enforce the same rules of the road as for car drivers (aka murderers). So people need to just accept that they don't often hurt people, despite acting like tw@ts and annoying everybody, and just give them a bit of room to do their thing.
posted on 25/6/19
comment by Pranks- European Champions (U6283)
posted 5 hours, 43 minutes ago
I worked In london for years, their awful on those roads
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Talk about generalising
posted on 25/6/19
Pranks- European Champions (U6283)
Not sure you understand what a generalisation is.
posted on 25/6/19
comment by Mike (U1170)
posted 44 seconds ago
Basic summary is that everyone knows cyclists are generally caants and act like the rules don't apply to them, but that's because they more or less don't apply, and there's no feasible or realistic way to enforce the same rules of the road as for car drivers (aka murderers). So people need to just accept that they don't often hurt people, despite acting like tw@ts and annoying everybody, and just give them a bit of room to do their thing.
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That probably sums it up. Cyclists annoy drivers. Drivers kill cyclists. Pedestrians stab people and rob banks. It's a reasonable conclusion.
posted on 25/6/19
comment by Mike (U1170)
posted 1 minute ago
Basic summary is that everyone knows cyclists are generally caants and act like the rules don't apply to them, but that's because they more or less don't apply, and there's no feasible or realistic way to enforce the same rules of the road as for car drivers (aka murderers). So people need to just accept that they don't often hurt people, despite acting like tw@ts and annoying everybody, and just give them a bit of room to do their thing.
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posted on 25/6/19
I have never once said licencing.
posted on 25/6/19
comment by manusince52 (U9692)
posted 10 seconds ago
I have never once said licencing.
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But you joined a thread and a debate about it.
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