comment by Will Scarlet (U17891)
posted 44 seconds ago
19 wins in 50 games for Rennes when the majority of those games are League One standard does not fill me with confidence at all...
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Even Phillip Montanier will be scratching iz ed at this one...
But we will be absolutely GUARANTEED to have the best stadium in League one, because that is the direction these muppets are taking us.
Another Mendes ‘clone’, who is running this, Marinakis or Mendes, whichever, it is a complete joke.
Strange strange decision. Perhaps he and the board were not on the same page moving forward/signings etc
Seems like every time the sun comes out, Forest replace their manager.
Feel sorry for Forest fans having to put up with this cårp.
I grew up in the 70s when they were a massive club.
Owners are cretins. No other word for them.
Marinakis has to launder his money somehow. Maybe pay off a manager with it works but I don't see how it benefits anyone. Anyway he will probably soon be in a Greek prison so you can look for another owner as well.
comment by Shaun M - Ran out of usernames (U9955)
posted 3 hours, 24 minutes ago
Strange strange decision. Perhaps he and the board were not on the same page moving forward/signings etc
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MoN tried to get rid of the rebels in the squad but they and their agents refused to go. Owner took the easy option. He will regret it if the club doesn’t start the new season well. Once bitten twice shy after the Al Hasawi fiasco.
As Fester and Forest seem intent on negative anti football, we’d be happy to welcome newcomers to the epicentre of progressive football in the East Midlands.
#footballnottorture
Not wumming but it does seem an odd appointment if Anti-football is your goal I’d say:
Karanka > O Neil > Lambrusco
It could be a masterstroke if he’s seen something we haven’t but not sure why on earth you got rid of Karanka if this is the direction the club wants to move in. Think Aitor would have built a competitive if uninspiring team.
Karanka made his own decision and ‘walked’, he obviously didn’t like the interference from the Greeks and decided to leave, a shame, but still HIS decision. Should the names of the ‘rebel’ players be made public, I doubt they will be very popular, that is the ones who ousted MON. Crazy situation.
Early enough in pre-season for the new guy to get to know the players and bring in his own team.
Other than the last handful of games we were largely rubbish under MON & RK. Stumbling into three at the back finally paid off.
Ignoring our best player (Carvalho), sticking with Watson over Yacob, playing Murphy every game.
Timing might be off and dramatic as always, but yeah, not sad that MON followed RK.
comment by reddave (U8660)
posted 2 hours, 36 minutes ago
Karanka made his own decision and ‘walked’, he obviously didn’t like the interference from the Greeks and decided to leave, a shame, but still HIS decision. Should the names of the ‘rebel’ players be made public, I doubt they will be very popular, that is the ones who ousted MON. Crazy situation.
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It’s not really that hard to work out. Senior players who didn’t play a great deal under MoN and could have an ace to grind were the following -
Guedioura
Bridcutt
Watson
Yacob
He also dropped Robinson and Milosevic and intimation was it was disciplinary based.
All of those players agitating against him would have a strong portion of the dressing room experience on their side.
comment by Will Scarlet (U17891)
posted 0 seconds ago
comment by reddave (U8660)
posted 2 hours, 36 minutes ago
Karanka made his own decision and ‘walked’, he obviously didn’t like the interference from the Greeks and decided to leave, a shame, but still HIS decision. Should the names of the ‘rebel’ players be made public, I doubt they will be very popular, that is the ones who ousted MON. Crazy situation.
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It’s not really that hard to work out. Senior players who didn’t play a great deal under MoN and could have an ace to grind were the following -
Guedioura
Bridcutt
Watson
Yacob
He also dropped Robinson and Milosevic and intimation was it was disciplinary based.
All of those players agitating against him would have a strong portion of the dressing room experience on their side.
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*axe
https://www.theguardian.com/football/2019/jun/28/martin-o-neill-nottingham-forest-inside-story
My advice to Guedioura would be to find himself a new football club ASAP.
Watson played under MON, in fact he was mentoring Yates.
That doesn't excuse some of the terrible tactics and that god-awful game against Villa at the CG that really made me question the new management team. We had out played them at times at Villa Park.
However this isn't the right way to run a football club; MON was always the wrong manager, irrespective of the poor way he has been treated/sacked.
Marinakis & his Board obviously want promotion at any cost, but without the nous to do it.
Possibly this unheard of DoF is the fly in the ointment?
I'm becoming increasingly disilusioned with the unprofessional manor in which the club has been run by this and the previous owner.
This second unknown Frenchman has a full preseason ahead of him so no excuses if the team is bottom 8 by Christmas.
It’s interesting to me just how many Forest fans are pretty much fine with this decision. I thought they’d be livid.
Perhaps I’ve been taking East Midlands Today’s natural positivity too literally.
comment by The_Dungeon_Master (U4830)
posted 21 hours, 26 minutes ago
It’s interesting to me just how many Forest fans are pretty much fine with this decision. I thought they’d be livid.
Perhaps I’ve been taking East Midlands Today’s natural positivity too literally.
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Certainly not fine with this decision. By sacking MoN they are perpetuating the problems in the squad that clearly exist. Certain players have rallied against numerous managers and got them sacked over the years. Won’t achieve anything with foundations based on sand.
Moaning about hard reading sessions suggests to me that a good proportion of the squad haven’t got what it takes to be a promotion winning side. Another year in the doldrums awaits, I suspect.
Bringing on Pele, 3-0 down at Sheffield Wednesday.
Playing Yates, Bonatini and Murphy all in the attacking midfielder role instead of Carvalho
Playing Jack Colback, our best midfielder, left back, while our actual left back gets dropped
Dropping of our £13m creative midfielder for 12+ games in favor of a third DM at home
Selection of Murphy as a solo striker time and time again despite him being 35 with no legs or pace, all whilst ignoring others including Bonatini whom he never afforded a chance
Pursuing 35 year old Hutton this summer despite having Darikwa, Richardson and even Cash who can compete for the RB berth
People may moan about the way Fridays business was carried out but the real travesty was the appointment of of MON in the first place. A horrific utterly turgid appointment of a man whose ‘tactics’ and MO went against everything the club had been doing for the previous 12 months. We ll see now how in demand MON will be, his arrogance and refusal to acknowledge the changes in modern football is his biggest downfall, in his own mind he possesses papal levels of infallibility....
Delighted we acted now and the clouds have cleared over the city ground now he and his wrecking ball of an Assistant have been cleared out!!
Forest len - I don’t disagree that it was an awful appointment, but given that you’ve now gone through 26 managers in 18 years, what gives you any confidence that this latest unheard of Jorge Mendes appointment is going to fare any better than the last 26?
You were playing the right football under Karanka and doing well before some of the players turned and marianakis fell out with him, causing him to effectively walk. It’s been bad appointment after bad appointment and the latest guy you have gone with has done absolutely nothing.
You’re trying to be the next Wolves without any of their quality in your squad or people at the top that have any idea what to do except ask Jorge Mendes
No point blaming Marinakis for the 26 managerial appointments, we can only concern ourselves with how we proceed going forward. Marinakis’s appointments have been dubious and the MON in 2019 was shocking. Off the field his business around the club has been commendable so willing to give him time. This new appointment is an unknown but he knows the drill so he comes in with his eyes open, no appointment is guaranteed of success so all we can do is wait and see and support him, literally anyone is an improvement on MON and the new guy has a month to get familiar with his players 👍🏼
FFS len, your club is being run by Jorge Mendes, he seems to have more influence than Marianakis who is on his 4th manager already..,..!
There were plenty of tried and proven managers available and we bring in yet another unheard of hopeful. Chris Hughton, Nigel Pearson, each of which would have shown intent, all we have shown is we have no money, no ambition and no sense of direction. I am stuck with a season card, and have absolutely no expectations, so at least I shouldn’t be too disappointed. We appear to be some kind of testing ground for Olympiakos.
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posted on 28/6/19
comment by Will Scarlet (U17891)
posted 44 seconds ago
19 wins in 50 games for Rennes when the majority of those games are League One standard does not fill me with confidence at all...
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Even Phillip Montanier will be scratching iz ed at this one...
posted on 28/6/19
But we will be absolutely GUARANTEED to have the best stadium in League one, because that is the direction these muppets are taking us.
posted on 28/6/19
Another Mendes ‘clone’, who is running this, Marinakis or Mendes, whichever, it is a complete joke.
posted on 28/6/19
Strange strange decision. Perhaps he and the board were not on the same page moving forward/signings etc
posted on 28/6/19
Seems like every time the sun comes out, Forest replace their manager.
Feel sorry for Forest fans having to put up with this cårp.
I grew up in the 70s when they were a massive club.
Owners are cretins. No other word for them.
posted on 28/6/19
Marinakis has to launder his money somehow. Maybe pay off a manager with it works but I don't see how it benefits anyone. Anyway he will probably soon be in a Greek prison so you can look for another owner as well.
posted on 28/6/19
comment by Shaun M - Ran out of usernames (U9955)
posted 3 hours, 24 minutes ago
Strange strange decision. Perhaps he and the board were not on the same page moving forward/signings etc
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MoN tried to get rid of the rebels in the squad but they and their agents refused to go. Owner took the easy option. He will regret it if the club doesn’t start the new season well. Once bitten twice shy after the Al Hasawi fiasco.
posted on 28/6/19
Derby it is then!
posted on 28/6/19
As Fester and Forest seem intent on negative anti football, we’d be happy to welcome newcomers to the epicentre of progressive football in the East Midlands.
#footballnottorture
posted on 28/6/19
Not wumming but it does seem an odd appointment if Anti-football is your goal I’d say:
Karanka > O Neil > Lambrusco
It could be a masterstroke if he’s seen something we haven’t but not sure why on earth you got rid of Karanka if this is the direction the club wants to move in. Think Aitor would have built a competitive if uninspiring team.
posted on 28/6/19
Karanka made his own decision and ‘walked’, he obviously didn’t like the interference from the Greeks and decided to leave, a shame, but still HIS decision. Should the names of the ‘rebel’ players be made public, I doubt they will be very popular, that is the ones who ousted MON. Crazy situation.
posted on 28/6/19
Early enough in pre-season for the new guy to get to know the players and bring in his own team.
Other than the last handful of games we were largely rubbish under MON & RK. Stumbling into three at the back finally paid off.
Ignoring our best player (Carvalho), sticking with Watson over Yacob, playing Murphy every game.
Timing might be off and dramatic as always, but yeah, not sad that MON followed RK.
posted on 29/6/19
comment by reddave (U8660)
posted 2 hours, 36 minutes ago
Karanka made his own decision and ‘walked’, he obviously didn’t like the interference from the Greeks and decided to leave, a shame, but still HIS decision. Should the names of the ‘rebel’ players be made public, I doubt they will be very popular, that is the ones who ousted MON. Crazy situation.
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It’s not really that hard to work out. Senior players who didn’t play a great deal under MoN and could have an ace to grind were the following -
Guedioura
Bridcutt
Watson
Yacob
He also dropped Robinson and Milosevic and intimation was it was disciplinary based.
All of those players agitating against him would have a strong portion of the dressing room experience on their side.
posted on 29/6/19
comment by Will Scarlet (U17891)
posted 0 seconds ago
comment by reddave (U8660)
posted 2 hours, 36 minutes ago
Karanka made his own decision and ‘walked’, he obviously didn’t like the interference from the Greeks and decided to leave, a shame, but still HIS decision. Should the names of the ‘rebel’ players be made public, I doubt they will be very popular, that is the ones who ousted MON. Crazy situation.
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It’s not really that hard to work out. Senior players who didn’t play a great deal under MoN and could have an ace to grind were the following -
Guedioura
Bridcutt
Watson
Yacob
He also dropped Robinson and Milosevic and intimation was it was disciplinary based.
All of those players agitating against him would have a strong portion of the dressing room experience on their side.
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*axe
posted on 29/6/19
https://www.theguardian.com/football/2019/jun/28/martin-o-neill-nottingham-forest-inside-story
posted on 29/6/19
My advice to Guedioura would be to find himself a new football club ASAP.
posted on 29/6/19
Watson played under MON, in fact he was mentoring Yates.
That doesn't excuse some of the terrible tactics and that god-awful game against Villa at the CG that really made me question the new management team. We had out played them at times at Villa Park.
However this isn't the right way to run a football club; MON was always the wrong manager, irrespective of the poor way he has been treated/sacked.
Marinakis & his Board obviously want promotion at any cost, but without the nous to do it.
Possibly this unheard of DoF is the fly in the ointment?
I'm becoming increasingly disilusioned with the unprofessional manor in which the club has been run by this and the previous owner.
This second unknown Frenchman has a full preseason ahead of him so no excuses if the team is bottom 8 by Christmas.
posted on 29/6/19
It’s interesting to me just how many Forest fans are pretty much fine with this decision. I thought they’d be livid.
Perhaps I’ve been taking East Midlands Today’s natural positivity too literally.
posted on 30/6/19
comment by The_Dungeon_Master (U4830)
posted 21 hours, 26 minutes ago
It’s interesting to me just how many Forest fans are pretty much fine with this decision. I thought they’d be livid.
Perhaps I’ve been taking East Midlands Today’s natural positivity too literally.
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Certainly not fine with this decision. By sacking MoN they are perpetuating the problems in the squad that clearly exist. Certain players have rallied against numerous managers and got them sacked over the years. Won’t achieve anything with foundations based on sand.
posted on 30/6/19
Moaning about hard reading sessions suggests to me that a good proportion of the squad haven’t got what it takes to be a promotion winning side. Another year in the doldrums awaits, I suspect.
posted on 30/6/19
Bringing on Pele, 3-0 down at Sheffield Wednesday.
Playing Yates, Bonatini and Murphy all in the attacking midfielder role instead of Carvalho
Playing Jack Colback, our best midfielder, left back, while our actual left back gets dropped
Dropping of our £13m creative midfielder for 12+ games in favor of a third DM at home
Selection of Murphy as a solo striker time and time again despite him being 35 with no legs or pace, all whilst ignoring others including Bonatini whom he never afforded a chance
Pursuing 35 year old Hutton this summer despite having Darikwa, Richardson and even Cash who can compete for the RB berth
People may moan about the way Fridays business was carried out but the real travesty was the appointment of of MON in the first place. A horrific utterly turgid appointment of a man whose ‘tactics’ and MO went against everything the club had been doing for the previous 12 months. We ll see now how in demand MON will be, his arrogance and refusal to acknowledge the changes in modern football is his biggest downfall, in his own mind he possesses papal levels of infallibility....
Delighted we acted now and the clouds have cleared over the city ground now he and his wrecking ball of an Assistant have been cleared out!!
posted on 30/6/19
Forest len - I don’t disagree that it was an awful appointment, but given that you’ve now gone through 26 managers in 18 years, what gives you any confidence that this latest unheard of Jorge Mendes appointment is going to fare any better than the last 26?
You were playing the right football under Karanka and doing well before some of the players turned and marianakis fell out with him, causing him to effectively walk. It’s been bad appointment after bad appointment and the latest guy you have gone with has done absolutely nothing.
You’re trying to be the next Wolves without any of their quality in your squad or people at the top that have any idea what to do except ask Jorge Mendes
posted on 30/6/19
No point blaming Marinakis for the 26 managerial appointments, we can only concern ourselves with how we proceed going forward. Marinakis’s appointments have been dubious and the MON in 2019 was shocking. Off the field his business around the club has been commendable so willing to give him time. This new appointment is an unknown but he knows the drill so he comes in with his eyes open, no appointment is guaranteed of success so all we can do is wait and see and support him, literally anyone is an improvement on MON and the new guy has a month to get familiar with his players 👍🏼
posted on 30/6/19
FFS len, your club is being run by Jorge Mendes, he seems to have more influence than Marianakis who is on his 4th manager already..,..!
posted on 30/6/19
There were plenty of tried and proven managers available and we bring in yet another unheard of hopeful. Chris Hughton, Nigel Pearson, each of which would have shown intent, all we have shown is we have no money, no ambition and no sense of direction. I am stuck with a season card, and have absolutely no expectations, so at least I shouldn’t be too disappointed. We appear to be some kind of testing ground for Olympiakos.
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