comment by RB&W 'The Judge' (U21434)
posted 1 hour, 13 minutes ago
For the record I do think Ole would prefer Pogba left if he's not happy at the club but he's now trying to minimise the damage if Pogba ends up staying.
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yes you are probably right. But no one is buying that Pogba has give his all on the pitch so far. This is not a secret and is pointless saying it. Unless Ole really believes that od course. And if that is his best ... he is not good enough.
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What is the point in saying that Pogba doesn't do enough in a press conference? If he is going to say that, he needs to say it to Pogba in private/the dressing room. Saying it in the press conference would only serve to drive down the price and demotivate Pogba if he does end up staying.
I am sure that Ole will be happy to get rid of Pogba if someone makes a suitable offer, but he also needs to plan for if he is in the squad next season. Pogba I think is more likely to respond to the arm around the shoulder approach, which is what Ole is doing.
He doesnt have to say it at all. He just doesn't have to say that Pogba does the complete opposite when he clearly hasn't so far. This just winds the fans up who know different and are very much divided about Pogbas worth to the team or the Club.. And is clearly ridiculous. Ole should keep quiet about individual players and manage (Pogba) from within the confines of the Club. Not through a press conference.
Did you watch the whole press conference RB&W? It’s worth seeing what he said in context. He did it for a reason.
Some of the questions coming from those utter slugs were unbelievable.
I think the only things people can criticise Pogba for is his form and publicly stating he wants a new challenge. I don’t know why his professionalism in the context of training and matches is in question.
I now want to him to leave after going public just like I wanted Rooney to leave but to question his attitude is bizarre.
Ole has known him since he was kid and I think he genuinely believes what he says about him. Pogba seems like one of those players even the receptionists and dinner ladies like judging by the welcome they gave him when he returned to the club.
comment by RB&W 'The Judge' (U21434)
posted 15 minutes ago
He doesnt have to say it at all. He just doesn't have to say that Pogba does the complete opposite when he clearly hasn't so far. This just winds the fans up who know different and are very much divided about Pogbas worth to the team or the Club.. And is clearly ridiculous. Ole should keep quiet about individual players and manage (Pogba) from within the confines of the Club. Not through a press conference.
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I haven't seen the full presser yet, but I suspect that he is being very specific questions and giving specific answers to that. Either way, it makes sense to talk up the professionalism of a player that is very likely to be leaving to club. Why would you want to put any potential buyers off? I am quire sure that Ole will be glad to see the back of him, but he has to do/say what is best for the club. SAF often spoke absolute rubbish for this very reason.
don’t know why his professionalism in the context of training and matches is in question.
....
I imagine that came from us watching him jogging around in some matches we were losing without a care in the world.
comment by Kung Fu Cantona 🙏🏼 🇵🇸 (U18082)
posted 15 minutes ago
I think the only things people can criticise Pogba for is his form and publicly stating he wants a new challenge. I don’t know why his professionalism in the context of training and matches is in question.
I now want to him to leave after going public just like I wanted Rooney to leave but to question his attitude is bizarre.
Ole has known him since he was kid and I think he genuinely believes what he says about him. Pogba seems like one of those players even the receptionists and dinner ladies like judging by the welcome they gave him when he returned to the club.
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You can’t criticize someone for a lack of form in isolation, because it’s something that’s out of their control.
If a player is training hard, listening to their coaches and the instructions they are being given, and performing professionally, diligently and with focus, for me they are without blame.
I’ve always found it completely ridiculous when fans launch personal attacks on players who are giving their absolute best.
Sanchez, for example; he’s played like an amateur, but I wouldn’t blame him for that - don’t attack the guy, because he’s worked his balls off.
He is like saf in the way that he doesn't slate the team, always speaks well of them to the press.
Let's hope he is giving pogba etc a strong backhand behind the scenes.
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posted on 10/7/19
comment by RB&W 'The Judge' (U21434)
posted 1 hour, 13 minutes ago
For the record I do think Ole would prefer Pogba left if he's not happy at the club but he's now trying to minimise the damage if Pogba ends up staying.
+++
yes you are probably right. But no one is buying that Pogba has give his all on the pitch so far. This is not a secret and is pointless saying it. Unless Ole really believes that od course. And if that is his best ... he is not good enough.
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What is the point in saying that Pogba doesn't do enough in a press conference? If he is going to say that, he needs to say it to Pogba in private/the dressing room. Saying it in the press conference would only serve to drive down the price and demotivate Pogba if he does end up staying.
I am sure that Ole will be happy to get rid of Pogba if someone makes a suitable offer, but he also needs to plan for if he is in the squad next season. Pogba I think is more likely to respond to the arm around the shoulder approach, which is what Ole is doing.
posted on 10/7/19
He doesnt have to say it at all. He just doesn't have to say that Pogba does the complete opposite when he clearly hasn't so far. This just winds the fans up who know different and are very much divided about Pogbas worth to the team or the Club.. And is clearly ridiculous. Ole should keep quiet about individual players and manage (Pogba) from within the confines of the Club. Not through a press conference.
posted on 10/7/19
Did you watch the whole press conference RB&W? It’s worth seeing what he said in context. He did it for a reason.
Some of the questions coming from those utter slugs were unbelievable.
posted on 10/7/19
I think the only things people can criticise Pogba for is his form and publicly stating he wants a new challenge. I don’t know why his professionalism in the context of training and matches is in question.
I now want to him to leave after going public just like I wanted Rooney to leave but to question his attitude is bizarre.
Ole has known him since he was kid and I think he genuinely believes what he says about him. Pogba seems like one of those players even the receptionists and dinner ladies like judging by the welcome they gave him when he returned to the club.
posted on 10/7/19
comment by RB&W 'The Judge' (U21434)
posted 15 minutes ago
He doesnt have to say it at all. He just doesn't have to say that Pogba does the complete opposite when he clearly hasn't so far. This just winds the fans up who know different and are very much divided about Pogbas worth to the team or the Club.. And is clearly ridiculous. Ole should keep quiet about individual players and manage (Pogba) from within the confines of the Club. Not through a press conference.
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I haven't seen the full presser yet, but I suspect that he is being very specific questions and giving specific answers to that. Either way, it makes sense to talk up the professionalism of a player that is very likely to be leaving to club. Why would you want to put any potential buyers off? I am quire sure that Ole will be glad to see the back of him, but he has to do/say what is best for the club. SAF often spoke absolute rubbish for this very reason.
posted on 10/7/19
don’t know why his professionalism in the context of training and matches is in question.
....
I imagine that came from us watching him jogging around in some matches we were losing without a care in the world.
posted on 10/7/19
comment by Kung Fu Cantona 🙏🏼 🇵🇸 (U18082)
posted 15 minutes ago
I think the only things people can criticise Pogba for is his form and publicly stating he wants a new challenge. I don’t know why his professionalism in the context of training and matches is in question.
I now want to him to leave after going public just like I wanted Rooney to leave but to question his attitude is bizarre.
Ole has known him since he was kid and I think he genuinely believes what he says about him. Pogba seems like one of those players even the receptionists and dinner ladies like judging by the welcome they gave him when he returned to the club.
----------------------------------------------------------------------
You can’t criticize someone for a lack of form in isolation, because it’s something that’s out of their control.
If a player is training hard, listening to their coaches and the instructions they are being given, and performing professionally, diligently and with focus, for me they are without blame.
I’ve always found it completely ridiculous when fans launch personal attacks on players who are giving their absolute best.
Sanchez, for example; he’s played like an amateur, but I wouldn’t blame him for that - don’t attack the guy, because he’s worked his balls off.
posted on 10/7/19
He is like saf in the way that he doesn't slate the team, always speaks well of them to the press.
Let's hope he is giving pogba etc a strong backhand behind the scenes.
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