comment by (kash) I'm the Mané - 6 Times Baby (U1108)
posted 5 seconds ago
Why did Arsenal leak this? Should have just said he was injured and resolved it behind closed doors.
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With the amount of insiders and leaks there are nowadays, this was always going to break out sooner or later. It was always going to turn ugly regardless.
If the club didn't say anything, I bet he/his representatives would have.
Anyway, now that it is public, we can't let him have his own way. It would make us look weak and like pushovers if we give him what he wants under these conditions.
comment by Ace (U18814)
posted 13 minutes ago
comment by Gunnerthru (U6675)
posted 8 seconds ago
comment by Ace (U18814)
posted 1 minute ago
Club captain has the mentality that he can act like an upstart and embarrass the club. Where is the discipline at Arsenal? Emery needs to exert his authority here and make an example of Kos so that other players, especially youngsters, understand who’s in charge and what happens if you step out of line.
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Yep....that will help 🙄
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Of course it will help. A manager needs to command the respect of his players. You don’t get that by letting people step out of line and get away with murder. Kos is close to being expendable due to his age, injuries and contract situation(?), so make an example of him, don’t give him what he wants, make him see out next season in the reserves - at least til January, then fack him off with no fanfare. If Emery wants to start a new era he needs to eliminate the culture of pansieness and start laying down the facking law with an iron fist.
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Bollox.
Make an example of our best defender and club captain ffs. More disarray in the locker room is what Arsenal can't afford and we need to solve that problem adequately right before the saison starts.
Something really needs to be done to increase the power of football clubs in these sorts of situations.
comment by Granit Xhaka: Thanks for the memories, but it's time to LEAVE (U3245)
posted 15 minutes ago
comment by Granit Xhaka: Thanks for the memories, but it's time to LEAVE (U3245)
posted 3 minutes ago
GT?
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yes Pete
GT, do you think Kos's actions have endeared himself to anyone at the club? If anything, our club captain acting like a brat for not having his own way would cause more disarray in the locker room because he isn't committed to us.
He needs to be disciplined for doing this. It isn't acceptable.
comment by Granit Xhaka: Thanks for the memories, but it's time to LEAVE (U3245)
posted 11 minutes ago
xhaka and ozil as captain
im off to support caley thistle
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comment by Gunnerthru (U6675)
posted 27 seconds ago
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Bollox.
Make an example of our best defender and club captain ffs. More disarray in the locker room is what Arsenal can't afford and we need to solve that problem adequately right before the saison starts.
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If he was still a top-class defender in his prime with years ahead of him then I would sympathise with this point but he's not, he's somewhat crocked to be brutally honest and past his sell-by-date.
I'd like to hear the full story on this but from his point of view he's given a lot of years to Arsenal and he wants to return to France for his last career move, he probably won't get this chance again, at least not to play in Ligue 1. We should have just accepted it and let him go but obviously the real issue here is that we are short on transfer money and we can't afford to replace him. The plan was to let him go when Saliba arrived next summer.
A real shame for his Arsenal career to end like this but I'd be very surprised if we ever see him play for us again and he does not leave us this summer now.
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comment by Samir - Bottlers FC (U2630)
posted 7 seconds ago
GT, do you think Kos's actions have endeared himself to anyone at the club? If anything, our club captain acting like a brat for not having his own way would cause more disarray in the locker room because he isn't committed to us.
He needs to be disciplined for doing this. It isn't acceptable.
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Personally I think every player should honour their conctract. That is in an ideal world. Football is all about money and players have the power these days. They don't care about the club.
Disappointing that it seems to include our club captain as well.
comment by You Can't Buy Class (U12019)
posted 3 minutes ago
comment by Gunnerthru (U6675)
posted 27 seconds ago
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Bollox.
Make an example of our best defender and club captain ffs. More disarray in the locker room is what Arsenal can't afford and we need to solve that problem adequately right before the saison starts.
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If he was still a top-class defender in his prime with years ahead of him then I would sympathise with this point but he's not, he's somewhat crocked to be brutally honest and past his sell-by-date.
I'd like to hear the full story on this but from his point of view he's given a lot of years to Arsenal and he wants to return to France for his last career move, he probably won't get this chance again, at least not to play in Ligue 1. We should have just accepted it and let him go but obviously the real issue here is that we are short on transfer money and we can't afford to replace him. The plan was to let him go when Saliba arrived next summer.
A real shame for his Arsenal career to end like this but I'd be very surprised if we ever see him play for us again and he does not leave us this summer now.
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And still and by far our best CB.
comment by Ace (U18814)
posted 26 minutes ago
comment by Gunnerthru (U6675)
posted 8 seconds ago
comment by Ace (U18814)
posted 1 minute ago
Club captain has the mentality that he can act like an upstart and embarrass the club. Where is the discipline at Arsenal? Emery needs to exert his authority here and make an example of Kos so that other players, especially youngsters, understand who’s in charge and what happens if you step out of line.
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Yep....that will help 🙄
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Of course it will help. A manager needs to command the respect of his players. You don’t get that by letting people step out of line and get away with murder. Kos is close to being expendable due to his age, injuries and contract situation(?), so make an example of him, don’t give him what he wants, make him see out next season in the reserves - at least til January, then fack him off with no fanfare. If Emery wants to start a new era he needs to eliminate the culture of pansieness and start laying down the facking law with an iron fist.
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Klopp did this with Sakho, didn't cause any problems in the dressing room and showed the rest of the players he wouldn't take any shіt.
comment by Granit Xhaka: Thanks for the memories, but it's time to LEAVE (U3245)
posted 4 minutes ago
comment by Gunnerthru (U6675)
posted 2 minutes ago
comment by Granit Xhaka: Thanks for the memories, but it's time to LEAVE (U3245)
posted 15 minutes ago
comment by Granit Xhaka: Thanks for the memories, but it's time to LEAVE (U3245)
posted 3 minutes ago
GT?
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🙄
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yes Pete
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I got you unbanned from the goobers thread
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oh
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comment by Diamondlights (U20501)
posted 47 minutes ago
At least you have really committed guys like Ozil you can count on
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Yea not the behaviour you want to see from a player, let alone the captain. And certainly not nice to have it all so public.
But I’d be happy for him to go. It would hurt us in the short term, assuming he is not replaced, but the guy doesn’t play as much as he once did and he is getting to that point where he ant deliver for us any longer. Let him go home and see out his days in somewhere like Lyon
comment by Gunnerthru (U6675)
posted 7 minutes ago
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And still and by far our best CB.
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Holding was our best CB last season until he got injured, he was better than Koscielny was when he returned.
comment by You Can't Buy Class (U12019)
posted 6 minutes ago
comment by Gunnerthru (U6675)
posted 7 minutes ago
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And still and by far our best CB.
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Holding was our best CB last season until he got injured, he was better than Koscielny was when he returned.
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No, he wasnt and it will show soon.
so youve had 5 captains apparently under emery, 2 of them have left 2 want out and the other isnt much liked by fans
Ramsey, cech, kos, ozil & xhaka
Who should be captain now?
comment by Gunnerthru (U6675)
posted 3 minutes ago
comment by You Can't Buy Class (U12019)
posted 6 minutes ago
comment by Gunnerthru (U6675)
posted 7 minutes ago
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And still and by far our best CB.
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Holding was our best CB last season until he got injured, he was better than Koscielny was when he returned.
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No, he wasnt and it will show soon.
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He blatantly was.
Silver lining in all of this?
Calum Chambers and Bielik get to stay on and prove themselves.
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This is pretty funny really, glad it's happening well in advance of the window closing.
We have more than enough time to replace the unt
The problem is how this effects the rest of the already fairly uncommitted squad...
Never thought Koscielny would be the type to go on strike!
I thought there was general acceptance that his best days were behind him and he'd probably leave Arsenal this summer? But this is a pretty crappy way to end a 9 year association with the club, quick way to ruin the relationship with the fans!
I'm not making excuses for Koscielny, but I've seen people come back from life threatening medical situations and immediately make life-changing decisions like quit their marriages, careers, belief systems..etc
You get to think and stew about a lot of stuff when you're on the shelf.
We all know he spent most of his recovery period in France, and the ITKs are saying he asked for a permanent move back home as soon as he was up and running.
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posted on 11/7/19
comment by (kash) I'm the Mané - 6 Times Baby (U1108)
posted 5 seconds ago
Why did Arsenal leak this? Should have just said he was injured and resolved it behind closed doors.
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With the amount of insiders and leaks there are nowadays, this was always going to break out sooner or later. It was always going to turn ugly regardless.
If the club didn't say anything, I bet he/his representatives would have.
Anyway, now that it is public, we can't let him have his own way. It would make us look weak and like pushovers if we give him what he wants under these conditions.
posted on 11/7/19
comment by Ace (U18814)
posted 13 minutes ago
comment by Gunnerthru (U6675)
posted 8 seconds ago
comment by Ace (U18814)
posted 1 minute ago
Club captain has the mentality that he can act like an upstart and embarrass the club. Where is the discipline at Arsenal? Emery needs to exert his authority here and make an example of Kos so that other players, especially youngsters, understand who’s in charge and what happens if you step out of line.
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Yep....that will help 🙄
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Of course it will help. A manager needs to command the respect of his players. You don’t get that by letting people step out of line and get away with murder. Kos is close to being expendable due to his age, injuries and contract situation(?), so make an example of him, don’t give him what he wants, make him see out next season in the reserves - at least til January, then fack him off with no fanfare. If Emery wants to start a new era he needs to eliminate the culture of pansieness and start laying down the facking law with an iron fist.
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Bollox.
Make an example of our best defender and club captain ffs. More disarray in the locker room is what Arsenal can't afford and we need to solve that problem adequately right before the saison starts.
posted on 11/7/19
Something really needs to be done to increase the power of football clubs in these sorts of situations.
posted on 11/7/19
comment by Granit Xhaka: Thanks for the memories, but it's time to LEAVE (U3245)
posted 15 minutes ago
comment by Granit Xhaka: Thanks for the memories, but it's time to LEAVE (U3245)
posted 3 minutes ago
GT?
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🙄
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yes Pete
posted on 11/7/19
GT, do you think Kos's actions have endeared himself to anyone at the club? If anything, our club captain acting like a brat for not having his own way would cause more disarray in the locker room because he isn't committed to us.
He needs to be disciplined for doing this. It isn't acceptable.
posted on 11/7/19
comment by Granit Xhaka: Thanks for the memories, but it's time to LEAVE (U3245)
posted 11 minutes ago
xhaka and ozil as captain
im off to support caley thistle
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I live in Inverness and can hook you up with Ultras i went to school with, there's usually a space in the car
posted on 11/7/19
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posted on 11/7/19
comment by Gunnerthru (U6675)
posted 27 seconds ago
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Bollox.
Make an example of our best defender and club captain ffs. More disarray in the locker room is what Arsenal can't afford and we need to solve that problem adequately right before the saison starts.
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If he was still a top-class defender in his prime with years ahead of him then I would sympathise with this point but he's not, he's somewhat crocked to be brutally honest and past his sell-by-date.
I'd like to hear the full story on this but from his point of view he's given a lot of years to Arsenal and he wants to return to France for his last career move, he probably won't get this chance again, at least not to play in Ligue 1. We should have just accepted it and let him go but obviously the real issue here is that we are short on transfer money and we can't afford to replace him. The plan was to let him go when Saliba arrived next summer.
A real shame for his Arsenal career to end like this but I'd be very surprised if we ever see him play for us again and he does not leave us this summer now.
posted on 11/7/19
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posted on 11/7/19
comment by Samir - Bottlers FC (U2630)
posted 7 seconds ago
GT, do you think Kos's actions have endeared himself to anyone at the club? If anything, our club captain acting like a brat for not having his own way would cause more disarray in the locker room because he isn't committed to us.
He needs to be disciplined for doing this. It isn't acceptable.
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Personally I think every player should honour their conctract. That is in an ideal world. Football is all about money and players have the power these days. They don't care about the club.
Disappointing that it seems to include our club captain as well.
posted on 11/7/19
comment by You Can't Buy Class (U12019)
posted 3 minutes ago
comment by Gunnerthru (U6675)
posted 27 seconds ago
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Bollox.
Make an example of our best defender and club captain ffs. More disarray in the locker room is what Arsenal can't afford and we need to solve that problem adequately right before the saison starts.
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If he was still a top-class defender in his prime with years ahead of him then I would sympathise with this point but he's not, he's somewhat crocked to be brutally honest and past his sell-by-date.
I'd like to hear the full story on this but from his point of view he's given a lot of years to Arsenal and he wants to return to France for his last career move, he probably won't get this chance again, at least not to play in Ligue 1. We should have just accepted it and let him go but obviously the real issue here is that we are short on transfer money and we can't afford to replace him. The plan was to let him go when Saliba arrived next summer.
A real shame for his Arsenal career to end like this but I'd be very surprised if we ever see him play for us again and he does not leave us this summer now.
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And still and by far our best CB.
posted on 11/7/19
comment by Ace (U18814)
posted 26 minutes ago
comment by Gunnerthru (U6675)
posted 8 seconds ago
comment by Ace (U18814)
posted 1 minute ago
Club captain has the mentality that he can act like an upstart and embarrass the club. Where is the discipline at Arsenal? Emery needs to exert his authority here and make an example of Kos so that other players, especially youngsters, understand who’s in charge and what happens if you step out of line.
----------------------------------------------------------------------
Yep....that will help 🙄
----------------------------------------------------------------------
Of course it will help. A manager needs to command the respect of his players. You don’t get that by letting people step out of line and get away with murder. Kos is close to being expendable due to his age, injuries and contract situation(?), so make an example of him, don’t give him what he wants, make him see out next season in the reserves - at least til January, then fack him off with no fanfare. If Emery wants to start a new era he needs to eliminate the culture of pansieness and start laying down the facking law with an iron fist.
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Klopp did this with Sakho, didn't cause any problems in the dressing room and showed the rest of the players he wouldn't take any shіt.
posted on 11/7/19
comment by Granit Xhaka: Thanks for the memories, but it's time to LEAVE (U3245)
posted 4 minutes ago
comment by Gunnerthru (U6675)
posted 2 minutes ago
comment by Granit Xhaka: Thanks for the memories, but it's time to LEAVE (U3245)
posted 15 minutes ago
comment by Granit Xhaka: Thanks for the memories, but it's time to LEAVE (U3245)
posted 3 minutes ago
GT?
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🙄
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yes Pete
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I got you unbanned from the goobers thread
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oh
posted on 11/7/19
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posted on 11/7/19
comment by Diamondlights (U20501)
posted 47 minutes ago
At least you have really committed guys like Ozil you can count on
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😂
Yea not the behaviour you want to see from a player, let alone the captain. And certainly not nice to have it all so public.
But I’d be happy for him to go. It would hurt us in the short term, assuming he is not replaced, but the guy doesn’t play as much as he once did and he is getting to that point where he ant deliver for us any longer. Let him go home and see out his days in somewhere like Lyon
posted on 11/7/19
comment by Gunnerthru (U6675)
posted 7 minutes ago
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And still and by far our best CB.
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Holding was our best CB last season until he got injured, he was better than Koscielny was when he returned.
posted on 11/7/19
comment by You Can't Buy Class (U12019)
posted 6 minutes ago
comment by Gunnerthru (U6675)
posted 7 minutes ago
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And still and by far our best CB.
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Holding was our best CB last season until he got injured, he was better than Koscielny was when he returned.
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No, he wasnt and it will show soon.
posted on 11/7/19
so youve had 5 captains apparently under emery, 2 of them have left 2 want out and the other isnt much liked by fans
Ramsey, cech, kos, ozil & xhaka
Who should be captain now?
posted on 11/7/19
comment by Gunnerthru (U6675)
posted 3 minutes ago
comment by You Can't Buy Class (U12019)
posted 6 minutes ago
comment by Gunnerthru (U6675)
posted 7 minutes ago
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And still and by far our best CB.
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Holding was our best CB last season until he got injured, he was better than Koscielny was when he returned.
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No, he wasnt and it will show soon.
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He blatantly was.
posted on 11/7/19
Silver lining in all of this?
Calum Chambers and Bielik get to stay on and prove themselves.
posted on 11/7/19
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posted on 11/7/19
This is pretty funny really, glad it's happening well in advance of the window closing.
We have more than enough time to replace the unt
The problem is how this effects the rest of the already fairly uncommitted squad...
posted on 11/7/19
Never thought Koscielny would be the type to go on strike!
I thought there was general acceptance that his best days were behind him and he'd probably leave Arsenal this summer? But this is a pretty crappy way to end a 9 year association with the club, quick way to ruin the relationship with the fans!
posted on 11/7/19
I'm not making excuses for Koscielny, but I've seen people come back from life threatening medical situations and immediately make life-changing decisions like quit their marriages, careers, belief systems..etc
You get to think and stew about a lot of stuff when you're on the shelf.
We all know he spent most of his recovery period in France, and the ITKs are saying he asked for a permanent move back home as soon as he was up and running.
posted on 11/7/19
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