comment by There'sOnlyOneReds (U1721)
posted 19 minutes ago
comment by Winston (U16525)
posted 10 minutes ago
I'm against the signing but the Liverpool fans on here banging on about VVD - facking hell, engage your brains.
Prices are sky rocketing. Comparing the prices quoted with how much you paid for a defender two years ago is a stupid thing to do.
They're talking about £45 million for Dunk ffs.
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A year and a half ago. De Ligt is going for £65m. So I wouldn't say prices have sky-rocketted since then, only that you're paying some English tax on top of the ridiculous fee for Maguire.
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Using a transfer for a player that isn't currently in the PL and isn't being bought by a PL team is absurd.
Of course prices are sky rocketing.
The equivalent VVD transfer would be far higher now.
comment by Winston (U16525)
posted 1 minute ago
comment by There'sOnlyOneReds (U1721)
posted 19 minutes ago
comment by Winston (U16525)
posted 10 minutes ago
I'm against the signing but the Liverpool fans on here banging on about VVD - facking hell, engage your brains.
Prices are sky rocketing. Comparing the prices quoted with how much you paid for a defender two years ago is a stupid thing to do.
They're talking about £45 million for Dunk ffs.
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A year and a half ago. De Ligt is going for £65m. So I wouldn't say prices have sky-rocketted since then, only that you're paying some English tax on top of the ridiculous fee for Maguire.
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Using a transfer for a player that isn't currently in the PL and isn't being bought by a PL team is absurd.
Of course prices are sky rocketing.
The equivalent VVD transfer would be far higher now.
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Ok, so who would you use to show the prices have skyrocketed since VVD moved for £75m a year and a half ago?
There'sOnlyOneReds (U1721)
I'd say let's wait until this summer transfer window is shut and then compare the season VVD moved with this season.
Then we'll see whose theory stacks up.
However you look at it and/or sugar coat it 90m for a decent but unspectacular defender with limited pace and errors in his game is nuts.
United should have laughed the valuation off and found someone else better.
Even in this crazy market he's a 50m CB at a push.
comment by HB Fash (U21935)
posted 5 seconds ago
However you look at it and/or sugar coat it 90m for a decent but unspectacular defender with limited pace and errors in his game is nuts.
United should have laughed the valuation off and found someone else better.
Even in this crazy market he's a 50m CB at a push.
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You say that, but people throwing around £45m for Dunk surely would suggest he's worth a lot more?
It's all fecking ridiculous and maybe clubs will refuse to pay these fees - which is why I say it's best we wait to see I guess.
comment by Winston (U16525)
posted 3 minutes ago
comment by HB Fash (U21935)
posted 5 seconds ago
However you look at it and/or sugar coat it 90m for a decent but unspectacular defender with limited pace and errors in his game is nuts.
United should have laughed the valuation off and found someone else better.
Even in this crazy market he's a 50m CB at a push.
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You say that, but people throwing around £45m for Dunk surely would suggest he's worth a lot more?
It's all fecking ridiculous and maybe clubs will refuse to pay these fees - which is why I say it's best we wait to see I guess.
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45m for Dunk is pure paper talk.
United's interest in Maguire at 80-90m isn't. More money than sense as we've seen for years.
We splashed a lot on a defender called Rio, once.
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I think that had more to do that he was sheep and had previously come out as a Man United hater. He even called himself an ABU.
Not surprisingly, the OT faithful didn't relish the thought of welcoming him into our ranks. Especially for the fee that Lids wanted for him.
The extent of his conversion to the Man United cause when wearing the Red shirt was staggering.
comment by HB Fash (U21935)
posted 3 minutes ago
comment by Winston (U16525)
posted 3 minutes ago
comment by HB Fash (U21935)
posted 5 seconds ago
However you look at it and/or sugar coat it 90m for a decent but unspectacular defender with limited pace and errors in his game is nuts.
United should have laughed the valuation off and found someone else better.
Even in this crazy market he's a 50m CB at a push.
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You say that, but people throwing around £45m for Dunk surely would suggest he's worth a lot more?
It's all fecking ridiculous and maybe clubs will refuse to pay these fees - which is why I say it's best we wait to see I guess.
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45m for Dunk is pure paper talk.
United's interest in Maguire at 80-90m isn't. More money than sense as we've seen for years.
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At least who I know to come to now to tell me the validity of transfer fee discussions.
He always seems à very good player whenever I have seen him. I don't understand why Blackstar and others are so keen to get rid of him. There's no guarantee they can buy somebody as good, and may go backwards.
My Leicester fan relative tells me that Maguire is bang average and our own Jonny Evans has bee carrying him at Leicester
They are saying that now they are losing him.
comment by Winston (U16525)
posted 7 minutes ago
comment by HB Fash (U21935)
posted 3 minutes ago
comment by Winston (U16525)
posted 3 minutes ago
comment by HB Fash (U21935)
posted 5 seconds ago
However you look at it and/or sugar coat it 90m for a decent but unspectacular defender with limited pace and errors in his game is nuts.
United should have laughed the valuation off and found someone else better.
Even in this crazy market he's a 50m CB at a push.
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You say that, but people throwing around £45m for Dunk surely would suggest he's worth a lot more?
It's all fecking ridiculous and maybe clubs will refuse to pay these fees - which is why I say it's best we wait to see I guess.
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45m for Dunk is pure paper talk.
United's interest in Maguire at 80-90m isn't. More money than sense as we've seen for years.
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At least who I know to come to now to tell me the validity of transfer fee discussions.
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comment by manusince52 (U9692)
posted 6 minutes ago
They are saying that now they are losing him.
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We genuinely aren’t. If you look back through the Leicester board we have been saying this for months
When he first arrived he was immense. Powerful and strong in the box he was what we needed. After w couple of months however the weaknesses started becoming apparent - the lack of pace, losing the ball high up the pitch when he goes on one of his runs and his total lack of awareness of what’s behind him
There have been numerous match threads from last season (where he was very average) that point out a number of goals conceded directly as a result of his mistakes.
That’s not to say he won’t improve you, he will, but it’s absolutely nuts to pay that amount of money for a good CB that isn’t going to solve much of your problems
This isn’t like when we lost Mahrez - we were panicking about that. He was our catalyst for everything - Maguire isn’t that player. He’s not irreplaceable for us
comment by manusince52 (U9692)
posted 9 minutes ago
They are saying that now they are losing him.
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If you look at the threads on the Leicester board people are fairly consistent here. Even before the possibility of him leaving.
Maguire has more ability on the ball than Evans and there is no doubt about that. Evans, however, reads the game better and is a better out and out defender. We conceded lots of silly goals last season through lapses of concentration - often from Maguire.
Most Leicester fans will miss Maguire for his attacking attributes and ball carrying ability but, purely as a defender, he’s replaceable - based on last season’s form. I
Apologies BS - we were typing at the same time.
I’m probably more of a Maguire fan than you - but agree with all you’ve said there.
I still don't understand the pleasure in selling him. DDG has had a poorish season, but if there rumors about Spurs buying him, even at a record fee, I wouldn't be on the Spurs board saying "come on Levy, please buy him" which is what Blackstar is doing. It's odd to me.
It seems I’m one of the few that wants this transfer to happen, I’ve always been impressed whenever I’ve seen him and he seems a leader too which we are in dire need of. The price quoted is mad but I really couldn’t care, I will happily leave the net spend bragging rights to Spurs fans.
comment by manusince52 (U9692)
posted 1 minute ago
I still don't understand the pleasure in selling him. DDG has had a poorish season, but if there rumors about Spurs buying him, even at a record fee, I wouldn't be on the Spurs board saying "come on Levy, please buy him" which is what Blackstar is doing. It's odd to me.
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The pleasure would be they are getting well above what he is worth.
With 90m i'm sure they back themselves to get a better player in if that's what they are doing.
Plenty better CB's you could get under 90m better than Maguire.
comment by manusince52 (U9692)
posted 5 minutes ago
I still don't understand the pleasure in selling him. DDG has had a poorish season, but if there rumors about Spurs buying him, even at a record fee, I wouldn't be on the Spurs board saying "come on Levy, please buy him" which is what Blackstar is doing. It's odd to me.
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I’m not with Blackstar in wanting to sell him and would sooner him stay. He is right, however, in stating that he is much more replaceable than other players we’ve lost such as: Mahrez or Kante. Leicester also bought 2 promising CBs and Jonny Evans last summer, which I think was in preparation for losing Maguire at some point.
That’s why some LCFC fans are pragmatic about this transfer. If we sold Maguire for £80m and didn’t need to replace him then that’s quite a bit of spare cash for elsewhere in the team. My view is that there is no guarantee that would be invested wisely, but I can see the potential gain if you were more of a risk taker.
I don't think the one named is better. Not easy to find top players cheap. And he'd have to be a top player to be better. Still odd to me to be begging another club to buy one of your good players. I just can't imagine doing it unless the player is disruptive.
If you want to see something even more weird, Ateltico have just bought Tripper from Spurs for £21m!
comment by manusince52 (U9692)
posted 38 minutes ago
I still don't understand the pleasure in selling him. DDG has had a poorish season, but if there rumors about Spurs buying him, even at a record fee, I wouldn't be on the Spurs board saying "come on Levy, please buy him" which is what Blackstar is doing. It's odd to me.
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That’s a comparison that doesn’t work. DDG is irreplaceable for you unless he continues his poor form. He’s the worlds best goalkeeper. Harry Maguire isn’t in the same bracket even for us - he isn’t our best player and we can afford to lose him for silly money. He’s a long way from being a top class centre back, I don’t think he has the pace and awareness for that
comment by The Artist formerly known as Black Starr (U12353)
posted 57 minutes ago
comment by manusince52 (U9692)
posted 38 minutes ago
I still don't understand the pleasure in selling him. DDG has had a poorish season, but if there rumors about Spurs buying him, even at a record fee, I wouldn't be on the Spurs board saying "come on Levy, please buy him" which is what Blackstar is doing. It's odd to me.
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That’s a comparison that doesn’t work. DDG is irreplaceable for you unless he continues his poor form. He’s the worlds best goalkeeper. Harry Maguire isn’t in the same bracket even for us - he isn’t our best player and we can afford to lose him for silly money. He’s a long way from being a top class centre back, I don’t think he has the pace and awareness for that
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Maguire is decent, but the money is nuts. I can see him going to United - I think City have dropped out. Great business for Leicester if they get silly money for him.
On a completely different note, aren't you just glad you don't support Newcastle? I think I'd top myself if I did!
Of course DDG isn't irreplaceable, the comparison is valid, but we do Rashford if you prefer.
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posted on 17/7/19
comment by There'sOnlyOneReds (U1721)
posted 19 minutes ago
comment by Winston (U16525)
posted 10 minutes ago
I'm against the signing but the Liverpool fans on here banging on about VVD - facking hell, engage your brains.
Prices are sky rocketing. Comparing the prices quoted with how much you paid for a defender two years ago is a stupid thing to do.
They're talking about £45 million for Dunk ffs.
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A year and a half ago. De Ligt is going for £65m. So I wouldn't say prices have sky-rocketted since then, only that you're paying some English tax on top of the ridiculous fee for Maguire.
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Using a transfer for a player that isn't currently in the PL and isn't being bought by a PL team is absurd.
Of course prices are sky rocketing.
The equivalent VVD transfer would be far higher now.
posted on 17/7/19
comment by Winston (U16525)
posted 1 minute ago
comment by There'sOnlyOneReds (U1721)
posted 19 minutes ago
comment by Winston (U16525)
posted 10 minutes ago
I'm against the signing but the Liverpool fans on here banging on about VVD - facking hell, engage your brains.
Prices are sky rocketing. Comparing the prices quoted with how much you paid for a defender two years ago is a stupid thing to do.
They're talking about £45 million for Dunk ffs.
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A year and a half ago. De Ligt is going for £65m. So I wouldn't say prices have sky-rocketted since then, only that you're paying some English tax on top of the ridiculous fee for Maguire.
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Using a transfer for a player that isn't currently in the PL and isn't being bought by a PL team is absurd.
Of course prices are sky rocketing.
The equivalent VVD transfer would be far higher now.
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Ok, so who would you use to show the prices have skyrocketed since VVD moved for £75m a year and a half ago?
posted on 17/7/19
There'sOnlyOneReds (U1721)
I'd say let's wait until this summer transfer window is shut and then compare the season VVD moved with this season.
Then we'll see whose theory stacks up.
posted on 17/7/19
However you look at it and/or sugar coat it 90m for a decent but unspectacular defender with limited pace and errors in his game is nuts.
United should have laughed the valuation off and found someone else better.
Even in this crazy market he's a 50m CB at a push.
posted on 17/7/19
comment by HB Fash (U21935)
posted 5 seconds ago
However you look at it and/or sugar coat it 90m for a decent but unspectacular defender with limited pace and errors in his game is nuts.
United should have laughed the valuation off and found someone else better.
Even in this crazy market he's a 50m CB at a push.
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You say that, but people throwing around £45m for Dunk surely would suggest he's worth a lot more?
It's all fecking ridiculous and maybe clubs will refuse to pay these fees - which is why I say it's best we wait to see I guess.
posted on 17/7/19
comment by Winston (U16525)
posted 3 minutes ago
comment by HB Fash (U21935)
posted 5 seconds ago
However you look at it and/or sugar coat it 90m for a decent but unspectacular defender with limited pace and errors in his game is nuts.
United should have laughed the valuation off and found someone else better.
Even in this crazy market he's a 50m CB at a push.
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You say that, but people throwing around £45m for Dunk surely would suggest he's worth a lot more?
It's all fecking ridiculous and maybe clubs will refuse to pay these fees - which is why I say it's best we wait to see I guess.
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45m for Dunk is pure paper talk.
United's interest in Maguire at 80-90m isn't. More money than sense as we've seen for years.
posted on 17/7/19
We splashed a lot on a defender called Rio, once.
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I think that had more to do that he was sheep and had previously come out as a Man United hater. He even called himself an ABU.
Not surprisingly, the OT faithful didn't relish the thought of welcoming him into our ranks. Especially for the fee that Lids wanted for him.
The extent of his conversion to the Man United cause when wearing the Red shirt was staggering.
posted on 17/7/19
comment by HB Fash (U21935)
posted 3 minutes ago
comment by Winston (U16525)
posted 3 minutes ago
comment by HB Fash (U21935)
posted 5 seconds ago
However you look at it and/or sugar coat it 90m for a decent but unspectacular defender with limited pace and errors in his game is nuts.
United should have laughed the valuation off and found someone else better.
Even in this crazy market he's a 50m CB at a push.
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You say that, but people throwing around £45m for Dunk surely would suggest he's worth a lot more?
It's all fecking ridiculous and maybe clubs will refuse to pay these fees - which is why I say it's best we wait to see I guess.
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45m for Dunk is pure paper talk.
United's interest in Maguire at 80-90m isn't. More money than sense as we've seen for years.
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At least who I know to come to now to tell me the validity of transfer fee discussions.
posted on 17/7/19
He always seems à very good player whenever I have seen him. I don't understand why Blackstar and others are so keen to get rid of him. There's no guarantee they can buy somebody as good, and may go backwards.
posted on 17/7/19
My Leicester fan relative tells me that Maguire is bang average and our own Jonny Evans has bee carrying him at Leicester
posted on 17/7/19
They are saying that now they are losing him.
posted on 17/7/19
comment by Winston (U16525)
posted 7 minutes ago
comment by HB Fash (U21935)
posted 3 minutes ago
comment by Winston (U16525)
posted 3 minutes ago
comment by HB Fash (U21935)
posted 5 seconds ago
However you look at it and/or sugar coat it 90m for a decent but unspectacular defender with limited pace and errors in his game is nuts.
United should have laughed the valuation off and found someone else better.
Even in this crazy market he's a 50m CB at a push.
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You say that, but people throwing around £45m for Dunk surely would suggest he's worth a lot more?
It's all fecking ridiculous and maybe clubs will refuse to pay these fees - which is why I say it's best we wait to see I guess.
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45m for Dunk is pure paper talk.
United's interest in Maguire at 80-90m isn't. More money than sense as we've seen for years.
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At least who I know to come to now to tell me the validity of transfer fee discussions.
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posted on 17/7/19
comment by manusince52 (U9692)
posted 6 minutes ago
They are saying that now they are losing him.
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We genuinely aren’t. If you look back through the Leicester board we have been saying this for months
When he first arrived he was immense. Powerful and strong in the box he was what we needed. After w couple of months however the weaknesses started becoming apparent - the lack of pace, losing the ball high up the pitch when he goes on one of his runs and his total lack of awareness of what’s behind him
There have been numerous match threads from last season (where he was very average) that point out a number of goals conceded directly as a result of his mistakes.
That’s not to say he won’t improve you, he will, but it’s absolutely nuts to pay that amount of money for a good CB that isn’t going to solve much of your problems
This isn’t like when we lost Mahrez - we were panicking about that. He was our catalyst for everything - Maguire isn’t that player. He’s not irreplaceable for us
posted on 17/7/19
comment by manusince52 (U9692)
posted 9 minutes ago
They are saying that now they are losing him.
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If you look at the threads on the Leicester board people are fairly consistent here. Even before the possibility of him leaving.
Maguire has more ability on the ball than Evans and there is no doubt about that. Evans, however, reads the game better and is a better out and out defender. We conceded lots of silly goals last season through lapses of concentration - often from Maguire.
Most Leicester fans will miss Maguire for his attacking attributes and ball carrying ability but, purely as a defender, he’s replaceable - based on last season’s form. I
posted on 17/7/19
Apologies BS - we were typing at the same time.
I’m probably more of a Maguire fan than you - but agree with all you’ve said there.
posted on 17/7/19
I still don't understand the pleasure in selling him. DDG has had a poorish season, but if there rumors about Spurs buying him, even at a record fee, I wouldn't be on the Spurs board saying "come on Levy, please buy him" which is what Blackstar is doing. It's odd to me.
posted on 17/7/19
It seems I’m one of the few that wants this transfer to happen, I’ve always been impressed whenever I’ve seen him and he seems a leader too which we are in dire need of. The price quoted is mad but I really couldn’t care, I will happily leave the net spend bragging rights to Spurs fans.
posted on 17/7/19
comment by manusince52 (U9692)
posted 1 minute ago
I still don't understand the pleasure in selling him. DDG has had a poorish season, but if there rumors about Spurs buying him, even at a record fee, I wouldn't be on the Spurs board saying "come on Levy, please buy him" which is what Blackstar is doing. It's odd to me.
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The pleasure would be they are getting well above what he is worth.
With 90m i'm sure they back themselves to get a better player in if that's what they are doing.
Plenty better CB's you could get under 90m better than Maguire.
posted on 17/7/19
comment by manusince52 (U9692)
posted 5 minutes ago
I still don't understand the pleasure in selling him. DDG has had a poorish season, but if there rumors about Spurs buying him, even at a record fee, I wouldn't be on the Spurs board saying "come on Levy, please buy him" which is what Blackstar is doing. It's odd to me.
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I’m not with Blackstar in wanting to sell him and would sooner him stay. He is right, however, in stating that he is much more replaceable than other players we’ve lost such as: Mahrez or Kante. Leicester also bought 2 promising CBs and Jonny Evans last summer, which I think was in preparation for losing Maguire at some point.
That’s why some LCFC fans are pragmatic about this transfer. If we sold Maguire for £80m and didn’t need to replace him then that’s quite a bit of spare cash for elsewhere in the team. My view is that there is no guarantee that would be invested wisely, but I can see the potential gain if you were more of a risk taker.
posted on 17/7/19
I don't think the one named is better. Not easy to find top players cheap. And he'd have to be a top player to be better. Still odd to me to be begging another club to buy one of your good players. I just can't imagine doing it unless the player is disruptive.
posted on 17/7/19
If you want to see something even more weird, Ateltico have just bought Tripper from Spurs for £21m!
posted on 17/7/19
Jason Bourne?
posted on 17/7/19
comment by manusince52 (U9692)
posted 38 minutes ago
I still don't understand the pleasure in selling him. DDG has had a poorish season, but if there rumors about Spurs buying him, even at a record fee, I wouldn't be on the Spurs board saying "come on Levy, please buy him" which is what Blackstar is doing. It's odd to me.
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That’s a comparison that doesn’t work. DDG is irreplaceable for you unless he continues his poor form. He’s the worlds best goalkeeper. Harry Maguire isn’t in the same bracket even for us - he isn’t our best player and we can afford to lose him for silly money. He’s a long way from being a top class centre back, I don’t think he has the pace and awareness for that
posted on 17/7/19
comment by The Artist formerly known as Black Starr (U12353)
posted 57 minutes ago
comment by manusince52 (U9692)
posted 38 minutes ago
I still don't understand the pleasure in selling him. DDG has had a poorish season, but if there rumors about Spurs buying him, even at a record fee, I wouldn't be on the Spurs board saying "come on Levy, please buy him" which is what Blackstar is doing. It's odd to me.
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That’s a comparison that doesn’t work. DDG is irreplaceable for you unless he continues his poor form. He’s the worlds best goalkeeper. Harry Maguire isn’t in the same bracket even for us - he isn’t our best player and we can afford to lose him for silly money. He’s a long way from being a top class centre back, I don’t think he has the pace and awareness for that
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Maguire is decent, but the money is nuts. I can see him going to United - I think City have dropped out. Great business for Leicester if they get silly money for him.
On a completely different note, aren't you just glad you don't support Newcastle? I think I'd top myself if I did!
posted on 17/7/19
Of course DDG isn't irreplaceable, the comparison is valid, but we do Rashford if you prefer.
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