He's not no, but he's a class player, just not worth the quoted fee. Clubs have to stop at some point surely.
comment by Nickasaurus (U9257)
posted 2 minutes ago
He's not no, but he's a class player, just not worth the quoted fee. Clubs have to stop at some point surely.
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Clubs will only stop when the revenue runs out or the kudos for owning a top football brand world wide diminishes. Looking at the silly money over in the states for American footballers of the chucking variety that's not going to be soon.
What do you mean silly money? In most cases they don't buy them off a team? Do you mean what they are paid?
Im not against what players earn tbf. It's more the initial fees that clubs are paying which surely has to come to a head. Look at inter with lukakus installments etc. It surely has to end soon, just not manageable.
Not sure about you Lee, but if I was a millionaire I still wouldn't just pay whatever price a shop chucks at me for things.
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comment by Nickasaurus (U9257)
posted 5 minutes ago
Not sure about you Lee, but if I was a millionaire I still wouldn't just pay whatever price a shop chucks at me for things.
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Yep totally agree, unfortunately its that fine balance between a player bringing you a trophy or not and if your willing to hold out. Probably the best value for money was Liverpool buying Van Dijk but a pre season injury could have ruined all that. Buying any player is a risk and its a case of weighing up the pros and cons
Yeah your only as good as the sum of your parts though. What klopp has done at liverpool is years of hard work. VVD is a great player, but also came with the emergence of TAA, Robertson becoming a world class full back and a record signing of a keeper (till chelsea broke it a week later).
Maguire will be a good signing but won't be the difference between a trophy or not imo.
He cant play in a high line
Actually, Maguire wants to play in a high line. But he needs someone alongside him who can read the game and mop up when the ball goes over his head.
It's why he's never formed a decent partnership with Wes Morgan. He prefers a deep line and they end up out of kilter.
With the money in the EPL, teams simply do not have to sell their best players to make ends meet. They are therefore very unwilling sellers so buyers have to pay more to entice you to sell something you dont want to lose.
Ajax almost recognise that their top players will move and therefore are more realistic about value, are more willing sellers, and £67m is probably more than they get in TV money
I like Maguire but he certainly has his limitations and needs the right partner alongside him and DM in front
It's 2019 so I think Maguire is definitely a £60m defender.
Throw in the premium of selling to another English club and the fact that Leicester don't need to sell and £90m becomes a justifiable fee.
I also believe that one decent season at United and his value increase anyway.
comment by The_Dungeon_Master (U4830)
posted 32 minutes ago
Actually, Maguire wants to play in a high line. But he needs someone alongside him who can read the game and mop up when the ball goes over his head.
It's why he's never formed a decent partnership with Wes Morgan. He prefers a deep line and they end up out of kilter.
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Whoever's next to him is gonna have to do a lot of mopping up then
Bang average, utd getting mugged off again!
comment by Moussa Chrissoko (U20930)
posted 47 minutes ago
comment by The_Dungeon_Master (U4830)
posted 32 minutes ago
Actually, Maguire wants to play in a high line. But he needs someone alongside him who can read the game and mop up when the ball goes over his head.
It's why he's never formed a decent partnership with Wes Morgan. He prefers a deep line and they end up out of kilter.
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Whoever's next to him is gonna have to do a lot of mopping up then
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But that's often how a CB partnership works. An 'aggressor' who attacks the ball and a reader to mops up behind and usually has a bit more pace - or at least this was the traditional makeup. Less aggression needed or allow these days
if he wasnt english probably 30 to 40 mil, hes a good defender, nothing amazing though
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posted on 18/7/19
He's not no, but he's a class player, just not worth the quoted fee. Clubs have to stop at some point surely.
posted on 18/7/19
comment by Nickasaurus (U9257)
posted 2 minutes ago
He's not no, but he's a class player, just not worth the quoted fee. Clubs have to stop at some point surely.
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Clubs will only stop when the revenue runs out or the kudos for owning a top football brand world wide diminishes. Looking at the silly money over in the states for American footballers of the chucking variety that's not going to be soon.
posted on 18/7/19
What do you mean silly money? In most cases they don't buy them off a team? Do you mean what they are paid?
Im not against what players earn tbf. It's more the initial fees that clubs are paying which surely has to come to a head. Look at inter with lukakus installments etc. It surely has to end soon, just not manageable.
posted on 18/7/19
Not sure about you Lee, but if I was a millionaire I still wouldn't just pay whatever price a shop chucks at me for things.
posted on 18/7/19
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posted on 18/7/19
comment by Nickasaurus (U9257)
posted 5 minutes ago
Not sure about you Lee, but if I was a millionaire I still wouldn't just pay whatever price a shop chucks at me for things.
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Yep totally agree, unfortunately its that fine balance between a player bringing you a trophy or not and if your willing to hold out. Probably the best value for money was Liverpool buying Van Dijk but a pre season injury could have ruined all that. Buying any player is a risk and its a case of weighing up the pros and cons
posted on 18/7/19
Yeah your only as good as the sum of your parts though. What klopp has done at liverpool is years of hard work. VVD is a great player, but also came with the emergence of TAA, Robertson becoming a world class full back and a record signing of a keeper (till chelsea broke it a week later).
Maguire will be a good signing but won't be the difference between a trophy or not imo.
posted on 18/7/19
He cant play in a high line
posted on 18/7/19
Actually, Maguire wants to play in a high line. But he needs someone alongside him who can read the game and mop up when the ball goes over his head.
It's why he's never formed a decent partnership with Wes Morgan. He prefers a deep line and they end up out of kilter.
posted on 18/7/19
With the money in the EPL, teams simply do not have to sell their best players to make ends meet. They are therefore very unwilling sellers so buyers have to pay more to entice you to sell something you dont want to lose.
Ajax almost recognise that their top players will move and therefore are more realistic about value, are more willing sellers, and £67m is probably more than they get in TV money
I like Maguire but he certainly has his limitations and needs the right partner alongside him and DM in front
posted on 18/7/19
It's 2019 so I think Maguire is definitely a £60m defender.
Throw in the premium of selling to another English club and the fact that Leicester don't need to sell and £90m becomes a justifiable fee.
I also believe that one decent season at United and his value increase anyway.
posted on 18/7/19
comment by The_Dungeon_Master (U4830)
posted 32 minutes ago
Actually, Maguire wants to play in a high line. But he needs someone alongside him who can read the game and mop up when the ball goes over his head.
It's why he's never formed a decent partnership with Wes Morgan. He prefers a deep line and they end up out of kilter.
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Whoever's next to him is gonna have to do a lot of mopping up then
posted on 18/7/19
Bang average, utd getting mugged off again!
posted on 18/7/19
comment by Moussa Chrissoko (U20930)
posted 47 minutes ago
comment by The_Dungeon_Master (U4830)
posted 32 minutes ago
Actually, Maguire wants to play in a high line. But he needs someone alongside him who can read the game and mop up when the ball goes over his head.
It's why he's never formed a decent partnership with Wes Morgan. He prefers a deep line and they end up out of kilter.
----------------------------------------------------------------------
Whoever's next to him is gonna have to do a lot of mopping up then
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But that's often how a CB partnership works. An 'aggressor' who attacks the ball and a reader to mops up behind and usually has a bit more pace - or at least this was the traditional makeup. Less aggression needed or allow these days
posted on 18/7/19
if he wasnt english probably 30 to 40 mil, hes a good defender, nothing amazing though
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