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Pace is important for cb’s, especially when playing in a high line. Some players can get away with it, but they have to be exceptional defenders, and Maguire isn’t. So his lack of pace will be a big problem for us, and will be exposed regularly.
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It really isn’t as important as you seem to be making out. Vidic did alright in a pretty high line. Pique does alright in a high line,
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Barca don't play a high line against the better teams and haven't since pep.
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Errr I have seen them quite a lot and they play a very high line
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Against weaker teams where they control the game. Hence me saying the better teams.
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You not watched the classicos?
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I have indeed. And Barca in the CL. And against Atletico. They absolutely drop deeper than against teams where they dominate.
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Well we will agree to disagree on this one
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Did you watch them against us in both legs?
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Yes.....two games out of however many is hardly an indication of how they set up since pep left for god sake
Yes but if he’s a constant and your record has improved from being one of the worst to one of the best, that suggests it wasn’t him that was issue and instead either other individuals or your set piece marking set ups. It might even be him now taking more of a lead role is the very reason for your improvement.
If you go onto teams statistics and then detailed, scroll down and there is goal types. Change that from for to against and then it’s all on there. I can’t copy it as it’s embedded in the web page so will just take you to the default page.
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I've always had issues with Maguire's defending. If you don't believe me, I write player ratings articles on here after every league home game so feel free to look back through them. He can be a dominant force but he can also cost you goals and frustrate you.
If this is happening, I'll be interested to see what happens next for us. In particular, it feels to me that we have a choice between trusting what we have or making a sizeable bid for James Tarkowski. Regardless, I can see us needing an ageing Wes Morgan once again this year, as someone who is a strong, dominant force at the back. Evans strikes me as a fine partner to someone who's properly in charge; some players are just like that. Next to Soyuncu or *cough* Amartey, I'm not sure whether we'll have the power we need.
Ultimately I just don't trust Soyuncu and fear he could cost a goal every other game. We can't afford that if we're looking to break into the top 6.
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So it’s not just me after all......
Barca used to often sit deeper and play on the counter under Enrique as well.
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comment by Ed The King Woodward (U10026)
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Barca used to often sit deeper and play on the counter under Enrique as well.
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Whose to say we wouldn’t sit back a bit deeper against the better teams?
We probably will, but Maguire struggles against most players with a bit of skill and pace. I have never got the fuss with this guy. If he wasn’t English nobody would be looking at him at that price.
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We probably will, but Maguire struggles against most players with a bit of skill and pace. I have never got the fuss with this guy. If he wasn’t English nobody would be looking at him at that price.
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I agree...I don’t think he is worth it at all. The only thing he improves is on are aerially in both boxes and possession wise. I think Smalling is the better defender personally
So do I. Ole’s going to need to pair Smalling with Maguire if he wants to have someone covering for him. Lindelof and Maguire doesn’t work for me.
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Who's to say that we hadn't already tried to get Alderweireld and failed?
He may have been our second choice after De Light turned us down and now we are down to desperation option number 3.
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Well I doubt he would considering it’s wages that’s stopped him signing at spurs and united can pay silly wages.
The news broke about maguire and de ligt so the loose lips at old Trafford wouldn’t have kept an alderweireld bid out of the news
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There is that. But other factors such as stability can influence a player's decision.
There's no doubt that United can pay Toby a bumper wage, not disputing that. But currently we are in one of our funny old transitional guessing periods again.
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Undoubtedly but the fact it doesn’t even look like there was interest would make me question those taking the decisions
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There's no doubt that the board would have considered Toby.
It maybe a case of us only informally seeking out any vibes from Toby's camp to see if he would be interested.
It's clear that there wasn't enough of an actual pursuit to lead to any public known transfer saga for him.
In saying that, i am slightly gutted we didn't put any real effort to get him instead. But then again we may have been put off with dealing with Levy.
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Why would he have to deal with Levy? It's a release clause.
Saying that, this is Ed we're talking about
Maguire has his attributes, yes he is slow but play him with the right partner and they could be a formidable pair. The price is high, but Leicester also value him at 70 million because they would have kept him for less.
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He’s a lot better than what they have currently
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This is the problem, he isn’t.
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Give your head a wobble.
Not the best around but certainly better than what we have by a country mile.
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That’s just not true. You obviously don’t watch Leicester much if that’s the conclusion you’ve come to.
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I don't need to watch too many Leicester matches to know that he is better than what I have spent the last 5 seasons watching for us.
Who is better than him at the moment?
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He is only better than Rojo
comment by manusince52 (U9692)
posted 9 hours, 27 minutes ago
Maguire has his attributes, yes he is slow but play him with the right partner and they could be a formidable pair. The price is high, but Leicester also value him at 70 million because they would have kept him for less.
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We value him at £80m. Had to be a world record fee or it was no transfer. Leicester definitely value him no question
You may not get 80 million. As things stand we may not buy him. There is only one source saying it is imminent.
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Maguire has his attributes, yes he is slow but play him with the right partner and they could be a formidable pair. The price is high, but Leicester also value him at 70 million because they would have kept him for less.
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Worlds gone mad when you pay potentially £80,000,000 for a defender, and in the next breath talk about how you might need another player to make truly effective in defence.π
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You may not get 80 million. As things stand we may not buy him. There is only one source saying it is imminent.
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Let’s be realistic - it’s happening. Multiple reports yesterday saying it’s imminent, it’s only a matter of time. We know Leicester won’t sell for less than a world record fee so it has to be a minimum of £75m - he won’t go for less
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You may not get 80 million. As things stand we may not buy him. There is only one source saying it is imminent.
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Let’s be realistic - it’s happening. Multiple reports yesterday saying it’s imminent, it’s only a matter of time. We know Leicester won’t sell for less than a world record fee so it has to be a minimum of £75m - he won’t go for less
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Was it multiple reports? From what I could make out is was one report with everyone else copying the story, which seems to pass as journalism these days. Not saying that it won't happen, but we have had many reports like this throughout the transfer window so far where players were joining/leaving United that simply haven't happened.
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Maguire has his attributes, yes he is slow but play him with the right partner and they could be a formidable pair. The price is high, but Leicester also value him at 70 million because they would have kept him for less.
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Worlds gone mad when you pay potentially £80,000,000 for a defender, and in the next breath talk about how you might need another player to make truly effective in defence.π
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Sad to say but this is spot on.
An £80 million defender should be coming in and bossing the players around him, not looking around for someone to cover him because his legs can't get him there.
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comment by manusince52 (U9692)
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Maguire has his attributes, yes he is slow but play him with the right partner and they could be a formidable pair. The price is high, but Leicester also value him at 70 million because they would have kept him for less.
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Worlds gone mad when you pay potentially £80,000,000 for a defender, and in the next breath talk about how you might need another player to make truly effective in defence.π
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Sad to say but this is spot on.
An £80 million defender should be coming in and bossing the players around him, not looking around for someone to cover him because his legs can't get him there.
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Most of our best CB pairings over the years have had a rock hard ball winner, who tends not to be the fastest, and a quicker more cultured partner who is better on the ball:
Bruce/Pallister
Rio/Vidic
Stam/Johnson.
As much as I think that reported fee of £80m is crazy, your CBs do work best if their attributes complement each other.
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Yeh, I agree - but it's a bit painful that we're buying an £80 million centre half and then wondering if we need to bring someone in to get the best out of him.
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Yeh, I agree - but it's a bit painful that we're buying an £80 million centre half and then wondering if we need to bring someone in to get the best out of him.
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Yes, I agree. I mean, what is HM? Is he the hard man? Or is he the ball player? For me we need a hard man to pair with Victor (and hopefully Taunzebe later on). I don't see how either of those 3 form a top partnership, but maybe I am wrong. Just doesn't seem like the right signing for me.
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Elvis (U7425)
Yeh, I agree - but it's a bit painful that we're buying an £80 million centre half and then wondering if we need to bring someone in to get the best out of him.
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Yes, I agree. I mean, what is HM? Is he the hard man? Or is he the ball player? For me we need a hard man to pair with Victor (and hopefully Taunzebe later on). I don't see how either of those 3 form a top partnership, but maybe I am wrong. Just doesn't seem like the right signing for me.
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Yeh, agreed.
I just can't believe the club have scouted him properly. It feels like they're just buying into the hype after the World Cup. It's so bizarre.
Particularly with Ole likely to employ a high press - this just feels wrong.
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Elvis (U7425)
Yeh, I agree - but it's a bit painful that we're buying an £80 million centre half and then wondering if we need to bring someone in to get the best out of him.
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Yes, I agree. I mean, what is HM? Is he the hard man? Or is he the ball player? For me we need a hard man to pair with Victor (and hopefully Taunzebe later on). I don't see how either of those 3 form a top partnership, but maybe I am wrong. Just doesn't seem like the right signing for me.
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He’s not really a hard man. He’s strong in the air and would win most Ariel challenges but his strength is really on the ball, carrying it out of defence and setting up attacks. He’s very good going forward
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Pace is important for cb’s, especially when playing in a high line. Some players can get away with it, but they have to be exceptional defenders, and Maguire isn’t. So his lack of pace will be a big problem for us, and will be exposed regularly.
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It really isn’t as important as you seem to be making out. Vidic did alright in a pretty high line. Pique does alright in a high line,
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Barca don't play a high line against the better teams and haven't since pep.
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Errr I have seen them quite a lot and they play a very high line
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Against weaker teams where they control the game. Hence me saying the better teams.
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You not watched the classicos?
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I have indeed. And Barca in the CL. And against Atletico. They absolutely drop deeper than against teams where they dominate.
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Well we will agree to disagree on this one
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Did you watch them against us in both legs?
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Yes.....two games out of however many is hardly an indication of how they set up since pep left for god sake
posted on 21/7/19
Yes but if he’s a constant and your record has improved from being one of the worst to one of the best, that suggests it wasn’t him that was issue and instead either other individuals or your set piece marking set ups. It might even be him now taking more of a lead role is the very reason for your improvement.
If you go onto teams statistics and then detailed, scroll down and there is goal types. Change that from for to against and then it’s all on there. I can’t copy it as it’s embedded in the web page so will just take you to the default page.
posted on 21/7/19
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comment by The_Dungeon_Master (U4830)
posted 3 minutes ago
I've always had issues with Maguire's defending. If you don't believe me, I write player ratings articles on here after every league home game so feel free to look back through them. He can be a dominant force but he can also cost you goals and frustrate you.
If this is happening, I'll be interested to see what happens next for us. In particular, it feels to me that we have a choice between trusting what we have or making a sizeable bid for James Tarkowski. Regardless, I can see us needing an ageing Wes Morgan once again this year, as someone who is a strong, dominant force at the back. Evans strikes me as a fine partner to someone who's properly in charge; some players are just like that. Next to Soyuncu or *cough* Amartey, I'm not sure whether we'll have the power we need.
Ultimately I just don't trust Soyuncu and fear he could cost a goal every other game. We can't afford that if we're looking to break into the top 6.
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So it’s not just me after all......
posted on 21/7/19
Barca used to often sit deeper and play on the counter under Enrique as well.
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posted on 21/7/19
comment by Ed The King Woodward (U10026)
posted 3 minutes ago
Barca used to often sit deeper and play on the counter under Enrique as well.
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Whose to say we wouldn’t sit back a bit deeper against the better teams?
posted on 21/7/19
We probably will, but Maguire struggles against most players with a bit of skill and pace. I have never got the fuss with this guy. If he wasn’t English nobody would be looking at him at that price.
posted on 21/7/19
comment by Ed The King Woodward (U10026)
posted 8 seconds ago
We probably will, but Maguire struggles against most players with a bit of skill and pace. I have never got the fuss with this guy. If he wasn’t English nobody would be looking at him at that price.
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I agree...I don’t think he is worth it at all. The only thing he improves is on are aerially in both boxes and possession wise. I think Smalling is the better defender personally
posted on 21/7/19
So do I. Ole’s going to need to pair Smalling with Maguire if he wants to have someone covering for him. Lindelof and Maguire doesn’t work for me.
posted on 21/7/19
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comment by Prem (U7618)
posted 1 minute ago
Who's to say that we hadn't already tried to get Alderweireld and failed?
He may have been our second choice after De Light turned us down and now we are down to desperation option number 3.
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Well I doubt he would considering it’s wages that’s stopped him signing at spurs and united can pay silly wages.
The news broke about maguire and de ligt so the loose lips at old Trafford wouldn’t have kept an alderweireld bid out of the news
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There is that. But other factors such as stability can influence a player's decision.
There's no doubt that United can pay Toby a bumper wage, not disputing that. But currently we are in one of our funny old transitional guessing periods again.
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Undoubtedly but the fact it doesn’t even look like there was interest would make me question those taking the decisions
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There's no doubt that the board would have considered Toby.
It maybe a case of us only informally seeking out any vibes from Toby's camp to see if he would be interested.
It's clear that there wasn't enough of an actual pursuit to lead to any public known transfer saga for him.
In saying that, i am slightly gutted we didn't put any real effort to get him instead. But then again we may have been put off with dealing with Levy.
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Why would he have to deal with Levy? It's a release clause.
Saying that, this is Ed we're talking about
posted on 21/7/19
Maguire has his attributes, yes he is slow but play him with the right partner and they could be a formidable pair. The price is high, but Leicester also value him at 70 million because they would have kept him for less.
posted on 22/7/19
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comment by Ed The King Woodward (U10026)
posted 7 minutes ago
He’s a lot better than what they have currently
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This is the problem, he isn’t.
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Give your head a wobble.
Not the best around but certainly better than what we have by a country mile.
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That’s just not true. You obviously don’t watch Leicester much if that’s the conclusion you’ve come to.
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I don't need to watch too many Leicester matches to know that he is better than what I have spent the last 5 seasons watching for us.
Who is better than him at the moment?
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He is only better than Rojo
posted on 22/7/19
comment by manusince52 (U9692)
posted 9 hours, 27 minutes ago
Maguire has his attributes, yes he is slow but play him with the right partner and they could be a formidable pair. The price is high, but Leicester also value him at 70 million because they would have kept him for less.
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We value him at £80m. Had to be a world record fee or it was no transfer. Leicester definitely value him no question
posted on 22/7/19
You may not get 80 million. As things stand we may not buy him. There is only one source saying it is imminent.
posted on 22/7/19
comment by manusince52 (U9692)
posted 10 hours, 2 minutes ago
Maguire has his attributes, yes he is slow but play him with the right partner and they could be a formidable pair. The price is high, but Leicester also value him at 70 million because they would have kept him for less.
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Worlds gone mad when you pay potentially £80,000,000 for a defender, and in the next breath talk about how you might need another player to make truly effective in defence.π
posted on 22/7/19
*make him
posted on 22/7/19
comment by manusince52 (U9692)
posted 15 minutes ago
You may not get 80 million. As things stand we may not buy him. There is only one source saying it is imminent.
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Let’s be realistic - it’s happening. Multiple reports yesterday saying it’s imminent, it’s only a matter of time. We know Leicester won’t sell for less than a world record fee so it has to be a minimum of £75m - he won’t go for less
posted on 22/7/19
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posted 4 minutes ago
comment by manusince52 (U9692)
posted 15 minutes ago
You may not get 80 million. As things stand we may not buy him. There is only one source saying it is imminent.
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Let’s be realistic - it’s happening. Multiple reports yesterday saying it’s imminent, it’s only a matter of time. We know Leicester won’t sell for less than a world record fee so it has to be a minimum of £75m - he won’t go for less
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Was it multiple reports? From what I could make out is was one report with everyone else copying the story, which seems to pass as journalism these days. Not saying that it won't happen, but we have had many reports like this throughout the transfer window so far where players were joining/leaving United that simply haven't happened.
posted on 22/7/19
comment by jlou1978 (U15376)
posted 16 minutes ago
comment by manusince52 (U9692)
posted 10 hours, 2 minutes ago
Maguire has his attributes, yes he is slow but play him with the right partner and they could be a formidable pair. The price is high, but Leicester also value him at 70 million because they would have kept him for less.
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Worlds gone mad when you pay potentially £80,000,000 for a defender, and in the next breath talk about how you might need another player to make truly effective in defence.π
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Sad to say but this is spot on.
An £80 million defender should be coming in and bossing the players around him, not looking around for someone to cover him because his legs can't get him there.
posted on 22/7/19
comment by Winston (U16525)
posted 1 minute ago
comment by jlou1978 (U15376)
posted 16 minutes ago
comment by manusince52 (U9692)
posted 10 hours, 2 minutes ago
Maguire has his attributes, yes he is slow but play him with the right partner and they could be a formidable pair. The price is high, but Leicester also value him at 70 million because they would have kept him for less.
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Worlds gone mad when you pay potentially £80,000,000 for a defender, and in the next breath talk about how you might need another player to make truly effective in defence.π
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Sad to say but this is spot on.
An £80 million defender should be coming in and bossing the players around him, not looking around for someone to cover him because his legs can't get him there.
----------------
Most of our best CB pairings over the years have had a rock hard ball winner, who tends not to be the fastest, and a quicker more cultured partner who is better on the ball:
Bruce/Pallister
Rio/Vidic
Stam/Johnson.
As much as I think that reported fee of £80m is crazy, your CBs do work best if their attributes complement each other.
posted on 22/7/19
Elvis (U7425)
Yeh, I agree - but it's a bit painful that we're buying an £80 million centre half and then wondering if we need to bring someone in to get the best out of him.
posted on 22/7/19
comment by Winston (U16525)
posted 27 seconds ago
Elvis (U7425)
Yeh, I agree - but it's a bit painful that we're buying an £80 million centre half and then wondering if we need to bring someone in to get the best out of him.
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Yes, I agree. I mean, what is HM? Is he the hard man? Or is he the ball player? For me we need a hard man to pair with Victor (and hopefully Taunzebe later on). I don't see how either of those 3 form a top partnership, but maybe I am wrong. Just doesn't seem like the right signing for me.
posted on 22/7/19
comment by Elvis (U7425)
posted 29 seconds ago
comment by Winston (U16525)
posted 27 seconds ago
Elvis (U7425)
Yeh, I agree - but it's a bit painful that we're buying an £80 million centre half and then wondering if we need to bring someone in to get the best out of him.
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Yes, I agree. I mean, what is HM? Is he the hard man? Or is he the ball player? For me we need a hard man to pair with Victor (and hopefully Taunzebe later on). I don't see how either of those 3 form a top partnership, but maybe I am wrong. Just doesn't seem like the right signing for me.
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Yeh, agreed.
I just can't believe the club have scouted him properly. It feels like they're just buying into the hype after the World Cup. It's so bizarre.
Particularly with Ole likely to employ a high press - this just feels wrong.
posted on 22/7/19
comment by Elvis (U7425)
posted 1 minute ago
comment by Winston (U16525)
posted 27 seconds ago
Elvis (U7425)
Yeh, I agree - but it's a bit painful that we're buying an £80 million centre half and then wondering if we need to bring someone in to get the best out of him.
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Yes, I agree. I mean, what is HM? Is he the hard man? Or is he the ball player? For me we need a hard man to pair with Victor (and hopefully Taunzebe later on). I don't see how either of those 3 form a top partnership, but maybe I am wrong. Just doesn't seem like the right signing for me.
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He’s not really a hard man. He’s strong in the air and would win most Ariel challenges but his strength is really on the ball, carrying it out of defence and setting up attacks. He’s very good going forward
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