comment by Dubbed the new Emery (U21076)
posted 56 seconds ago
OP makes him sound like a better player than anything Barca, Real or Juve have got, which begs the question - why didn't they sign him?
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Juve filled up on freebies, Barca blew their wad on Griezmann and want Neymar back, and Real are desperate for Pogba.
Why did Juve let Henry go all those years ago, why did Chelsea let De Bruyne and Salah go, why didn’t Sheffield United sign Maradonna when they had the chance?
comment by Bales (U22081)
posted 2 minutes ago
I think a 4231 would work well with what we have now. Ndombele and Winks in the pivot, with any 3 of
Lamela (RW)
Lucas (RW)
Dele (CAM)
GLC (CAM)
Son (LW)
Sessegnon (LW)
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comment by Flashy flibble (U10324)
posted 6 minutes ago
With a diamond we need the width from the fall backs, correct?
Makes way more sense to me to have Sissoko at the right of the diamond to cover KWP or Foyth.
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Ndombele can do what sissoko can but he can kick a football
Contrary to the usual childish comments from our rival fans, we have had a positive window.
Sorted the Dembele position.
Got ride of weakest link ( Trippier )
Covered potential lose of Eriksen ( which would have been a big problem )
Several players with more first team experience
( Winks, Skipp, Parrot, WP's etc ) than last year
Kane - no World Cup hangover
Toby apparently settled. Just need to hold on to him.
Only area of serious concern is RB. We really need quality there if we are going to close gap on top two.
Personally think we are strong 3rd favorites, particularly when looking at Chelsea and Utd window efforts. Bookies concur in PL and both cups. And they don't usually get it wrong.
Can't wait for it all to get started.
comment by Bales (U22081)
posted 2 minutes ago
I think a 4231 would work well with what we have now. Ndombele and Winks in the pivot, with any 3 of
Lamela (RW)
Lucas (RW)
Dele (CAM)
GLC (CAM)
Son (LW)
Sessegnon (LW)
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Lamela for me looks quite weak on that list, he just lacks the pace to play that wide role.
Alli is under pressure this year, I think he thrives on that and we might see him back to his best.
Anyone think Parrot might get a semi regular spot?
comment by Striketeam7 (U18109)
posted 18 seconds ago
comment by Bales (U22081)
posted 2 minutes ago
I think a 4231 would work well with what we have now. Ndombele and Winks in the pivot, with any 3 of
Lamela (RW)
Lucas (RW)
Dele (CAM)
GLC (CAM)
Son (LW)
Sessegnon (LW)
----------------------------------------------------------------------
Lamela for me looks quite weak on that list, he just lacks the pace to play that wide role.
Alli is under pressure this year, I think he thrives on that and we might see him back to his best.
Anyone think Parrot might get a semi regular spot?
----------------------------------------------------------------------
They all drift in side anyway.
comment by SteveF (U22027)
posted 9 seconds ago
Contrary to the usual childish comments from our rival fans, we have had a positive window.
Sorted the Dembele position.
Got ride of weakest link ( Trippier )
Covered potential lose of Eriksen ( which would have been a big problem )
Several players with more first team experience
( Winks, Skipp, Parrot, WP's etc ) than last year
Kane - no World Cup hangover
Toby apparently settled. Just need to hold on to him.
Only area of serious concern is RB. We really need quality there if we are going to close gap on top two.
Personally think we are strong 3rd favorites, particularly when looking at Chelsea and Utd window efforts. Bookies concur in PL and both cups. And they don't usually get it wrong.
Can't wait for it all to get started.
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I think City will win it comfortably this year, then Spurs, Lpool and the Goonies battling for second. United and Chelsea look a long way behind on paper.
Foyth is the long term RB, Poch has been clear about that.
Arsenal should be nowhere near 2nd. Still not convinced by them.
Yeah I think the most important thing we can do now, is to get our Belgian duo to extend their contracts. At least another 12 months. I would be ecstatic.
comment by Phe'ndombele (U20037)
posted 3 minutes ago
Arsenal should be nowhere near 2nd. Still not convinced by them.
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They are going to score loads of goals, there front 3 plus Ozil is as good as any in the league and their full backs are now top drawer. Torriera is quality as well. They do still have glaring holes at DM and CB and the keeper is bang average.
I think they will comfortably finish above Chelsea and Man United
comment by SteveF (U22027)
posted 5 minutes ago
Contrary to the usual childish comments from our rival fans, we have had a positive window.
Sorted the Dembele position.
Got ride of weakest link ( Trippier )
Covered potential lose of Eriksen ( which would have been a big problem )
Several players with more first team experience
( Winks, Skipp, Parrot, WP's etc ) than last year
Kane - no World Cup hangover
Toby apparently settled. Just need to hold on to him.
Only area of serious concern is RB. We really need quality there if we are going to close gap on top two.
Personally think we are strong 3rd favorites, particularly when looking at Chelsea and Utd window efforts. Bookies concur in PL and both cups. And they don't usually get it wrong.
Can't wait for it all to get started.
----------------------------------------------------------------------
With a decent RB and Dybala could of been challenging, as is top 4 max
comment by SteveF (U22027)
posted 22 minutes ago
Contrary to the usual childish comments from our rival fans, we have had a positive window.
Sorted the Dembele position.
Got ride of weakest link ( Trippier )
Covered potential lose of Eriksen ( which would have been a big problem )
Several players with more first team experience
( Winks, Skipp, Parrot, WP's etc ) than last year
Kane - no World Cup hangover
Toby apparently settled. Just need to hold on to him.
Only area of serious concern is RB. We really need quality there if we are going to close gap on top two.
Personally think we are strong 3rd favorites, particularly when looking at Chelsea and Utd window efforts. Bookies concur in PL and both cups. And they don't usually get it wrong.
Can't wait for it all to get started.
----------------------------------------------------------------------
Welcome back sandy
Is Steve F the poster that Ace destroyed the other day?
comment by Dubbed the new Emery (U21076)
posted 45 minutes ago
OP makes him sound like a better player than anything Barca, Real or Juve have got, which begs the question - why didn't they sign him?
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"It was an easy decision. It’s a club that plays in the Champions League every year, has an incredible stadium, a top-level training centre, a coaching team of Argentines that showed interest in me, and that was very important." - Giovani Lo Celso
Lo Celso plays better in more advanced role
comment by palmers_spur (U8896)
posted 12 minutes ago
Steve F has to be Sandy
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No hes not, Sandy got exposed and hasn't posted for a week or more
Sandy commented on his fantasy football thread before
Think hes in a huff still though
https://twitter.com/SpursOfficial/status/1159549614602825728?s=09
Hola
On a serious note, are we sure that Sandy is okay?
I do like the old git
It’s the ( word ) and reference to the bookies that made me think
comment by Striketeam7 (U18109)
posted 3 minutes ago
On a serious note, are we sure that Sandy is okay?
I do like the old git
----------------------------------------------------------------------
Probably still upset about the DJ thing
From AFP
Resurgent Lo Celso ready to shine at Tottenham
Giovani Lo Celso, the "little monkey" to his team-mates and once the "ruby of Argentinian football", became on Thursday the next great hope for Tottenham and Mauricio Pochettino.
Only a few years ago, a pale-faced teenager from Rosario with a wand of a left foot was being circled as the most exciting talent since Lionel Messi to come out of Argentina.
Real Betis could receive up to 60 million euros if the transfer is made permanent but a 16-million-euro deal for a one-year loan first allows Spurs a closer look at one of the world's most exhilarating creative players.
As a youngster, Pablo Aimar and Juan Roman Riquelme were the ones Lo Celso was told to imitate by his mentor, Jorge Griffa, the former Atletico Madrid and Espanyol player, whose prestigious academy he joined aged 12 in 2008.
Griffa had helped nurture the likes of Gabriel Batistuta, Carlos Tevez and Maxi Rodriguez, as well as a young Pochettino, whose own fledgling career began with Griffa knocking on his door and persuading him to sign for Newell's Old Boys.
Lo Celso grew up in the neighbourhood of Sarmiento, 15 miles away from Pochettino's home town of Murphy, but it was rivals Rosario Central, not Newell's, whom he signed for in 2010.
Central was the team Lo Celso had supported, served as a mascot and then watched as a ball-boy inside El Gigante de Arroyito. Everton were among those to make an early approach yet Lo Celso's father, who gave him his nickname 'Monito', 'the little monkey', told him to stay and in 2015, his 19-year-old son made his senior debut.
"I lived five blocks from the stadium," Lo Celso told Argentinian magazine El Grafico in 2016. "Playing with the first team was a dream come true."
His idol is another left-footer from Rosario, not Messi, but Angel Di Maria, whose parents are family friends.
"I like him a lot because he is so dynamic," Lo Celso said. "He's a winger that threatens the goal, who assists his teammates, and who is very difficult to get the ball off."
By 2016, the pressure on Central to sell was too much, the only doubt his price and destination.
"He is the new ruby of Argentine football," wrote El Grafico. "He is the most talented player in Argentina," said Central vice-president Ricardo Carloni.
Paris Saint-Germain agreed and coach Unai Emery was impressed too, not just by Lo Celso's attacking prowess but his application and hunger.
"He is an example for everyone," Emery said. "He works with tenacity and humility."
Neymar, Kylian Mbappe and Edinson Cavani meant opportunities up front would be limited but Emery was convinced Lo Celso's passing and energy could be used in midfield, where he tried him as a playmaking pivot.
The experiment brought mixed results and ended with a chastening Champions League defeat away at Real Madrid, for which Lo Celso's drifting performance was blamed. "Out of place and overwhelmed, he was a drag on his team," wrote Diario Sport.
Emery was sacked and when Thomas Tuchel replaced him, Lo Celso fell out of favour. With six goals and nine assists in 54 games, he took the chance for a fresh start last season at Betis.
It worked, their free-flowing style under Quique Setien suiting him, as did a more advanced, central position behind the strikers. There were 14 goals in 39 games and a string of dazzling displays, marked by driving runs, dancing feet, lofted through-balls and bending shots into the corner.
His best was perhaps against Barcelona, when he scored in a 4-3 win at the Camp Nou. "He is immense," said Setien in October. "He just gets better and better."
PSG considered taking Lo Celso back and while Betis made the loan permanent in April for around 25 million euros, the suspicion remained they might not keep him for long.
Europe's biggest clubs were ready to wait another year but Tottenham jumped early and on Wednesday, Lo Celso said goodbye to his team-mates and then to the Betis fans at the Benito Villamarin.
They chanted for him to stay but it was too late. There for a year and gone in a flash.
Needed to get Dybala.
Without him the team is a little bit stronger but not much, and its just Harry Kane up front al by himself again ....until he gets injured.
There's still chances both Eriksen and Rose will leave.
Foyth will be the starting RB.
I do not see this team as being anything better than "top four" material.
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posted on 8/8/19
comment by Dubbed the new Emery (U21076)
posted 56 seconds ago
OP makes him sound like a better player than anything Barca, Real or Juve have got, which begs the question - why didn't they sign him?
----------------------------------------------------------------------
Juve filled up on freebies, Barca blew their wad on Griezmann and want Neymar back, and Real are desperate for Pogba.
Why did Juve let Henry go all those years ago, why did Chelsea let De Bruyne and Salah go, why didn’t Sheffield United sign Maradonna when they had the chance?
posted on 8/8/19
comment by Bales (U22081)
posted 2 minutes ago
I think a 4231 would work well with what we have now. Ndombele and Winks in the pivot, with any 3 of
Lamela (RW)
Lucas (RW)
Dele (CAM)
GLC (CAM)
Son (LW)
Sessegnon (LW)
----------------------------------------------------------------------
posted on 8/8/19
comment by Flashy flibble (U10324)
posted 6 minutes ago
With a diamond we need the width from the fall backs, correct?
Makes way more sense to me to have Sissoko at the right of the diamond to cover KWP or Foyth.
----------------------------------------------------------------------
Ndombele can do what sissoko can but he can kick a football
posted on 8/8/19
Contrary to the usual childish comments from our rival fans, we have had a positive window.
Sorted the Dembele position.
Got ride of weakest link ( Trippier )
Covered potential lose of Eriksen ( which would have been a big problem )
Several players with more first team experience
( Winks, Skipp, Parrot, WP's etc ) than last year
Kane - no World Cup hangover
Toby apparently settled. Just need to hold on to him.
Only area of serious concern is RB. We really need quality there if we are going to close gap on top two.
Personally think we are strong 3rd favorites, particularly when looking at Chelsea and Utd window efforts. Bookies concur in PL and both cups. And they don't usually get it wrong.
Can't wait for it all to get started.
posted on 8/8/19
comment by Bales (U22081)
posted 2 minutes ago
I think a 4231 would work well with what we have now. Ndombele and Winks in the pivot, with any 3 of
Lamela (RW)
Lucas (RW)
Dele (CAM)
GLC (CAM)
Son (LW)
Sessegnon (LW)
----------------------------------------------------------------------
Lamela for me looks quite weak on that list, he just lacks the pace to play that wide role.
Alli is under pressure this year, I think he thrives on that and we might see him back to his best.
Anyone think Parrot might get a semi regular spot?
posted on 8/8/19
comment by Striketeam7 (U18109)
posted 18 seconds ago
comment by Bales (U22081)
posted 2 minutes ago
I think a 4231 would work well with what we have now. Ndombele and Winks in the pivot, with any 3 of
Lamela (RW)
Lucas (RW)
Dele (CAM)
GLC (CAM)
Son (LW)
Sessegnon (LW)
----------------------------------------------------------------------
Lamela for me looks quite weak on that list, he just lacks the pace to play that wide role.
Alli is under pressure this year, I think he thrives on that and we might see him back to his best.
Anyone think Parrot might get a semi regular spot?
----------------------------------------------------------------------
They all drift in side anyway.
posted on 8/8/19
comment by SteveF (U22027)
posted 9 seconds ago
Contrary to the usual childish comments from our rival fans, we have had a positive window.
Sorted the Dembele position.
Got ride of weakest link ( Trippier )
Covered potential lose of Eriksen ( which would have been a big problem )
Several players with more first team experience
( Winks, Skipp, Parrot, WP's etc ) than last year
Kane - no World Cup hangover
Toby apparently settled. Just need to hold on to him.
Only area of serious concern is RB. We really need quality there if we are going to close gap on top two.
Personally think we are strong 3rd favorites, particularly when looking at Chelsea and Utd window efforts. Bookies concur in PL and both cups. And they don't usually get it wrong.
Can't wait for it all to get started.
----------------------------------------------------------------------
I think City will win it comfortably this year, then Spurs, Lpool and the Goonies battling for second. United and Chelsea look a long way behind on paper.
Foyth is the long term RB, Poch has been clear about that.
posted on 8/8/19
Arsenal should be nowhere near 2nd. Still not convinced by them.
posted on 8/8/19
Yeah I think the most important thing we can do now, is to get our Belgian duo to extend their contracts. At least another 12 months. I would be ecstatic.
posted on 8/8/19
comment by Phe'ndombele (U20037)
posted 3 minutes ago
Arsenal should be nowhere near 2nd. Still not convinced by them.
----------------------------------------------------------------------
They are going to score loads of goals, there front 3 plus Ozil is as good as any in the league and their full backs are now top drawer. Torriera is quality as well. They do still have glaring holes at DM and CB and the keeper is bang average.
I think they will comfortably finish above Chelsea and Man United
posted on 8/8/19
comment by SteveF (U22027)
posted 5 minutes ago
Contrary to the usual childish comments from our rival fans, we have had a positive window.
Sorted the Dembele position.
Got ride of weakest link ( Trippier )
Covered potential lose of Eriksen ( which would have been a big problem )
Several players with more first team experience
( Winks, Skipp, Parrot, WP's etc ) than last year
Kane - no World Cup hangover
Toby apparently settled. Just need to hold on to him.
Only area of serious concern is RB. We really need quality there if we are going to close gap on top two.
Personally think we are strong 3rd favorites, particularly when looking at Chelsea and Utd window efforts. Bookies concur in PL and both cups. And they don't usually get it wrong.
Can't wait for it all to get started.
----------------------------------------------------------------------
With a decent RB and Dybala could of been challenging, as is top 4 max
posted on 8/8/19
It’s a go for joe
posted on 8/8/19
comment by SteveF (U22027)
posted 22 minutes ago
Contrary to the usual childish comments from our rival fans, we have had a positive window.
Sorted the Dembele position.
Got ride of weakest link ( Trippier )
Covered potential lose of Eriksen ( which would have been a big problem )
Several players with more first team experience
( Winks, Skipp, Parrot, WP's etc ) than last year
Kane - no World Cup hangover
Toby apparently settled. Just need to hold on to him.
Only area of serious concern is RB. We really need quality there if we are going to close gap on top two.
Personally think we are strong 3rd favorites, particularly when looking at Chelsea and Utd window efforts. Bookies concur in PL and both cups. And they don't usually get it wrong.
Can't wait for it all to get started.
----------------------------------------------------------------------
Welcome back sandy
posted on 8/8/19
Steve F has to be Sandy
posted on 8/8/19
Is Steve F the poster that Ace destroyed the other day?
posted on 8/8/19
comment by Dubbed the new Emery (U21076)
posted 45 minutes ago
OP makes him sound like a better player than anything Barca, Real or Juve have got, which begs the question - why didn't they sign him?
----------------------------------------------------------------------
"It was an easy decision. It’s a club that plays in the Champions League every year, has an incredible stadium, a top-level training centre, a coaching team of Argentines that showed interest in me, and that was very important." - Giovani Lo Celso
posted on 8/8/19
Lo Celso plays better in more advanced role
posted on 8/8/19
comment by palmers_spur (U8896)
posted 12 minutes ago
Steve F has to be Sandy
----------------------------------------------------------------------
No hes not, Sandy got exposed and hasn't posted for a week or more
posted on 8/8/19
Sandy commented on his fantasy football thread before
Think hes in a huff still though
posted on 8/8/19
https://twitter.com/SpursOfficial/status/1159549614602825728?s=09
Hola
posted on 8/8/19
On a serious note, are we sure that Sandy is okay?
I do like the old git
posted on 8/8/19
It’s the ( word ) and reference to the bookies that made me think
posted on 8/8/19
comment by Striketeam7 (U18109)
posted 3 minutes ago
On a serious note, are we sure that Sandy is okay?
I do like the old git
----------------------------------------------------------------------
Probably still upset about the DJ thing
posted on 8/8/19
From AFP
Resurgent Lo Celso ready to shine at Tottenham
Giovani Lo Celso, the "little monkey" to his team-mates and once the "ruby of Argentinian football", became on Thursday the next great hope for Tottenham and Mauricio Pochettino.
Only a few years ago, a pale-faced teenager from Rosario with a wand of a left foot was being circled as the most exciting talent since Lionel Messi to come out of Argentina.
Real Betis could receive up to 60 million euros if the transfer is made permanent but a 16-million-euro deal for a one-year loan first allows Spurs a closer look at one of the world's most exhilarating creative players.
As a youngster, Pablo Aimar and Juan Roman Riquelme were the ones Lo Celso was told to imitate by his mentor, Jorge Griffa, the former Atletico Madrid and Espanyol player, whose prestigious academy he joined aged 12 in 2008.
Griffa had helped nurture the likes of Gabriel Batistuta, Carlos Tevez and Maxi Rodriguez, as well as a young Pochettino, whose own fledgling career began with Griffa knocking on his door and persuading him to sign for Newell's Old Boys.
Lo Celso grew up in the neighbourhood of Sarmiento, 15 miles away from Pochettino's home town of Murphy, but it was rivals Rosario Central, not Newell's, whom he signed for in 2010.
Central was the team Lo Celso had supported, served as a mascot and then watched as a ball-boy inside El Gigante de Arroyito. Everton were among those to make an early approach yet Lo Celso's father, who gave him his nickname 'Monito', 'the little monkey', told him to stay and in 2015, his 19-year-old son made his senior debut.
"I lived five blocks from the stadium," Lo Celso told Argentinian magazine El Grafico in 2016. "Playing with the first team was a dream come true."
His idol is another left-footer from Rosario, not Messi, but Angel Di Maria, whose parents are family friends.
"I like him a lot because he is so dynamic," Lo Celso said. "He's a winger that threatens the goal, who assists his teammates, and who is very difficult to get the ball off."
By 2016, the pressure on Central to sell was too much, the only doubt his price and destination.
"He is the new ruby of Argentine football," wrote El Grafico. "He is the most talented player in Argentina," said Central vice-president Ricardo Carloni.
Paris Saint-Germain agreed and coach Unai Emery was impressed too, not just by Lo Celso's attacking prowess but his application and hunger.
"He is an example for everyone," Emery said. "He works with tenacity and humility."
Neymar, Kylian Mbappe and Edinson Cavani meant opportunities up front would be limited but Emery was convinced Lo Celso's passing and energy could be used in midfield, where he tried him as a playmaking pivot.
The experiment brought mixed results and ended with a chastening Champions League defeat away at Real Madrid, for which Lo Celso's drifting performance was blamed. "Out of place and overwhelmed, he was a drag on his team," wrote Diario Sport.
Emery was sacked and when Thomas Tuchel replaced him, Lo Celso fell out of favour. With six goals and nine assists in 54 games, he took the chance for a fresh start last season at Betis.
It worked, their free-flowing style under Quique Setien suiting him, as did a more advanced, central position behind the strikers. There were 14 goals in 39 games and a string of dazzling displays, marked by driving runs, dancing feet, lofted through-balls and bending shots into the corner.
His best was perhaps against Barcelona, when he scored in a 4-3 win at the Camp Nou. "He is immense," said Setien in October. "He just gets better and better."
PSG considered taking Lo Celso back and while Betis made the loan permanent in April for around 25 million euros, the suspicion remained they might not keep him for long.
Europe's biggest clubs were ready to wait another year but Tottenham jumped early and on Wednesday, Lo Celso said goodbye to his team-mates and then to the Betis fans at the Benito Villamarin.
They chanted for him to stay but it was too late. There for a year and gone in a flash.
posted on 8/8/19
Needed to get Dybala.
Without him the team is a little bit stronger but not much, and its just Harry Kane up front al by himself again ....until he gets injured.
There's still chances both Eriksen and Rose will leave.
Foyth will be the starting RB.
I do not see this team as being anything better than "top four" material.
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