Micky: A lot of us probably saw World Cup games and I, for one, was impressed with the ball control and fitness. Much of it (at top international level) looked better than some in our leagues 1 and 2 and there was more attacking intent and fewer fouls.
I do not claim to be very well informed about the women’s game here, but I do not think that it is as big at grassroots level as in the USA. It is more popular than ever before, but I get the impression that it is the Number One female team sport in the US. I have never seen or really heard of women playing American football or baseball on any great scale in the US (and I may be totally wide of the mark) but when professional “soccer” arrived I get the impression that it seemed tailor-made at amateur level for girls and women. You even have “Soccer Moms” do you not? In contrast, here, we have women’s professional rugby and cricket and I think most recently net-ball which has been a traditional winter sport along with (field) hockey for girls for at least 70 years. Forgive me if my analysis of the American scene is not accurate, but the point is that here not all girls will have played “soccer” at school which is why most of us blokes fell in love with it, but for women if they did not play themselves, they may well be drawn to watching other sports. Tennis always seems a women’s TV favourite, but for a a significant number of women it may be true to say (but perhaps I am just old-fashioned) that sport has to vie with shopping, family events and “socialising”. Whilst there is significant male support for all these female sports – and bear in mind that football match attenders are male in the majority – it is perhaps a stronger female following that will transform the professional women’s game in the UK.
There is another problem in that the sport is concentrated on major clubs. So attending matches where the quality is good, depends on proximity to the grounds where these top English professional teams play. Even then, most of their matches are played on nearby non league grounds in their area. So even these locations will not necessarily be as easy to get to as going to the stadiums where the PL team plays.
The demise of the Belles reflects the course of the professional game here.
Rochdale 1 : Rovers 1 (Sadlier)
>>>>>>> Scorer > Score > Result Bonus > Total > Pts B/F > O/all
Donaldo>>> 0 >>>>> 4 >>>>> 3 >>>> 0 >>>> 7 >>>>> 0 >>>> 7
PDXMickey> 0 >>>>> 0 >>>>> 0 >>>> 0 >>>> 0 >>>>> 4 >>>> 4
Yorks Lad>> 0 >>>>> 4 >>>>> 3 >>>> 0 >>>> 7 >>>>> 0 >>>> 7
BVZ>>>>>>> 0 >>>>> 0 >>>>> 0 >>>> 0 >>>> 0 >>>>> 0 >>>> 0
Crazy>>>>> 0 >>>>> 0 >>>>> 0 >>>> 0 >>>>> 0 >>>>> 0 >>>> 0
Uthred>>>> 0 >>>>> 0 >>>>> 0 >>>> 0 >>>>> 0 >>>>> 7 >>>> 7
Mooligan>>> 0 >>>>> 4 >>>>> 3 >>>> 0 >>>> 7 >>>>> 7 >>>> 14
King Chmprr 0 >>>>> 0 >>>>> 0 >>>> 0 >>>> 0 >>>>> 0 >>>> 0
Small Azza> 0 >>>>> 0 >>>>> 0 >>>> 0 >>>>> 0 >>>>> 0 >>>> 0
Azza>>>>>> 4 >>>>> 0 >>>>> 0 >>>> 0 >>>>> 4 >>>>> 4 >>>> 8
Cheltenham 0 >>>>> 0 >>>>> 0 >>>> 0 >>>>> 0 >>>>> 0 >>>> 0
Nookie>>>> 0 >>>>> 0 >>>>> 0 >>>> 0 >>>> 0 >>>>> 16 >>>> 16
Selby>>>>> 0 >>>>> 0 >>>>> 0 >>>> 0 >>>>>> 0 >>>>> 0 >>>> 0
Lanza>>>>> 0 >>>>> 0 >>>>> 0 >>>> 0 >>>>> 0 >>>>> 0 >>>> 0
>>>>>>>>>> 4 >>>>> 12 >>>> 9 >>>> 0 >>>> 25 >>>> 38 >>> 63
I'm afraid there are a lot of fans asking what is happening behind the scenes with the board, money from cup run went to upgrade training facilities at Cantley Park I've been informed.
The wages saved by half of the team leaving plus the sale of Marquis is just for loans and players on a free, to cover their wages, so it would seem.
Yet, we haven't bought anyone since the year before last, and that was Whiteman.
You go on other forums and you cant have your opinions as it's like a closed shop. If you dare say anything against the board your shot down in flames, the same can be said about social media too.
I feel sorry for big Dave to be honest, the last two managers said same thing about our dreams of playing in the championship, must be done on a budget that seems to be getting smaller.
Someone but up a league table of teams in this league and what their budget was, we were 6th........ from the bottom. All though it was the season fergie left, McCann did wonders with the players we had.
Gav Baldwin said we want to be in championship, not just to make up the numbers but to have a bit of fun.
Two games in, two draws, still undefeated, but, if we had of got one of those strikers in ( one of those we'd allegedly agreed fees for with the club ) we would of had 6pts. On Saturday we play Fleetwood, could be a massive game for the board and big Dave as this could be the tipping point. Personally I think at this moment in time, we're not picking our best players and on Saturday it will be a big wake up call for the board and the players and big Dave.
I was there the other day when the fans booed the decision to take of Copps instead of a couple of other players. That's nothing compared to what's coming if they dont sort it out.
It laymans terms, the vast majority of fans are sick of all the talk, about these top notch strikers, of all the players were ready to sign, players lined up to sign, but nothing's happening. In nearly 50yrs of following the Rovers, I've never known/seen so much anger being aimed at the club before. Maybe it's just the time we live in.
Given the general state of DRFC/Club Doncaster from the advertised objective of a developing force to reach the Championship, it is difficult to understand why the Board did not put the brake on McCann’s “take it or leave it” contract negotiations which saw Rowe, Butler, Marosi and Andrew depart. You might have allowed him to gamble on 1 or 2, but not all 4. Given that the directors are experienced businessmen it was rather like giving away a lot of the essential machinery in the factory knowing that you probably did not have the means to replace it all. They let him proceed, either completely in agreement or without recognising the potential consequences. Crucial assets were discarded for nothing. Had they recognised McC’s near miss on promotion with the reward of a contract that tied him firmly to the club he might have been more cautious about its future, but there was no such initiative as far as we know. They also seemingly allowed the deal for the Rangers winger, an obvious replacement for Wilks, which looked pretty sound business irrespective of who would succeed McC, to lapse. They might also have started to look for a replacement for Marquis a bit sooner, given that they would sell him come what may instead of leaving it till now when anyone who is worthy of the role has probably found a new club.
Most of what was built by Ferguson and McCann in particular was swept away by McCann’s gamble that he could do even better from a new base. But leaving as he did, meant that his potential to do so went with him and, worse still, the club had to put everything on hold. Without a contract tying McCann down, the Board cannot be forgiven for failing see this possibility, failing to recognise that they had nothing to keep him in post, and that he could walk away, leaving that risk in the hands of the entire football club and its fans, a disastrous corporate strategic failure.
A huge burden rests on Darren’s shoulders and if he fails it will be the Board who should be held primarily responsible. Their promises about building for the future, any kind of long-term plan, have been shown to be totally empty. We are “also-rans” for the nth season in succession.
If somehow, we do challenge this time it will be rather like the Saunders/Flynn team bouncing back to the Championship with little or no help at all from a Board. After being guided to relegation by Dickov who was the last (albeit ill-chosen) manager who might be blamed for mismanagement and who left the club in tatters, we seem to have had to start from scratch practically every season since, which does not say much about the Board’s ability to consolidate and plan long term. This contrasts sharply with the strategy the fans have been fed at the forums every season since then. The sad thing is that up to now they have believed it.
Zigger, you say that in fifty odd years you haven’t seen anything like what fans are aiming at the board right now?
Have you forgotten the Richardson/Weaver years?
Im watching whats happening at Bury and Bolton. Loads more other clubs on the edge. Whilst I think the board made an error with GM's contract you have to respect their prudence. Lets be a bit patient for once!
It is easy to knock the board but as nookie says, look what is happening at Bury and Bolton.
At least we have responsible owners and the club is financially safe.
I don’t see a line of people offering to bankroll DRFC.
You both make valid points and their basic housekeeping is sound, but they have fallen short on the promised ambition. They may not have taken as many as 2 steps back, but you could hardly say we are stronger than this time last year. We are undoubtedly weaker, certainly as we stand today.
Moore needs to get his back side into gear and get us a decent striker….now.
Over twenty shots, three on target and no goals. I wonder what the "fans" who couldn't wait for Marquis to go are thinking now.
We put out a strong side. Statistically we were utterly dominant, yet we failed and the impression I got from a commentary that reached me only in short snatches was that we were contained fairly comfortably. I wonder whether we really contested the match with the required intensity. 24 shots and only 3 on target is worse than pathetic.
It could be worse, but probably the opposition were only very average. In reality it is the sort of game that we should be winning comfortably with a squad-based team if we are going anywhere this season.
Rather than getting the manager's take on the game it would be interesting to hear the CEO's on behalf of the Board.
4 or 5 quality players required including 2 strikers, if not we're fighting to stay in the league not top 6. Right from day 1 of pre season to now is a joke, nothing has got me off my seat in the games I've seen. We were lucky to get the equaliser against Rochdale Saturday and we'll be lucky to take anything against Fleetwood Saturday. Add to the mix Lincoln (Bolton sandwiched in between) then Rotherham and Ipswich we could be occupying one of the other 2 bottom 4 spots. FRUSTRATING!
Correct hound.....but quality
Don, don’t fall into the trap f believing the bbc stats.
24 shots is correct but three in target isn’t.
Shots that are blocked by defenders or hit the woodwork are not counted as being on target, even if a shot is blocked on the line as the Ennis one was late on in the game.
Only shots that are saved by the keeper count in the on target stats.
The emotional cycle of a Rovers supporter. Excitment, anticipation, impatience, frustration, anger , depression. This can be over a season or cycle several times a season. Im at the impatience stage.
Yes hound I remember the good old days of crowds of less than a thousand, King Kerry as manager but Richardson picking the team. Difference is everybody knew we were going down with a bent xxxxxxx in charge of our club. On this form we're looking more likely to be going out this league, unfortunately it's the wrong way.
This is a different type of board, we are in a different time, Gav the man is the board spokesperson, it's no good coming out spouting we want to go for promotion, we're not just going to get in the championship, we're going to have some fun when we get there.
It's no good trying to get promotion with a team full of loans, it won't work. The person I feel sorry for is Moore, he was promised all sorts yet has been left high n dry by the board. This striker is coming, that striker is on the radar, we've agreed terms with two clubs and just sorting out personal terms. Nothing. It looks like were going for a 17yr old striker from Rangers, according to the latest hype.
As for last night, should of had double figures against a team of reserves from Grimsby, Sadlier alone had 4 shots on target, so dont pay any attention to the BBC.
Funnily enough I do understand how the stats are compiled and that there is a degree of subjectivity to it all. I am not content with how things are looking and I have made my case. There are always other perspectives and interpretations but what I am seeing does not encourage me.
DM says Dont blame the strikers
We have players here to score goals for us.
Worrying?
Another loan player, at least this one is a striker. Big hopes for him, but, its another loan. Will we ever buy a striker or any player for that matter. All this is doing is making next season a copy of this, we will need to be looking at getting 6/7 players again come close season.
Dont get me wrong, once these players gell, I think we will storm this league, as these players will be worth millions to their clubs. Just seems like were a club that's developing players for their parent club and not promoting our own youngsters. Just another thing that Gav Baldwin said we were going to do, but doesn't now, look likely.
Its quite a sensible low risk , lowish cost strategy bringing in high potential loanees. We could burn all the Marquis money and not end up getting value. Most teams shuffle the pack at the end of the season anyway. If we did get promoted this year wed need to shuffle the pack anyway. Having said that its only through development of our own players that potentially gets us more money to spend. Theres got to be a Happy medium somewhere. Maybe he could tell us what our future is?😁
Weve had Kane now we ve got Sterling. What other current England players might we get? His scoring record over his short prefessional career is quite impressive albeit at junior level . He only ever came on as a sub for Sunderland. Im tipping him for 16-20 goals for us .
Well nookie, Donaldo posted three days ago that Harry Kane could be going out on loan and possibly to Portsmouth so there is still a chance we might get another England player.
On the subject of loans though, clubs like ours inevitably have to take advantage of the loan system to be able to survive and compete.
Sometimes it works heavily in our favour like with Herbie and Mallik last season.
Sometimes too the players we loaned became our contracted players, people like Mason and Whiteman recently and people like Sullivan and a Sharp in the past so it isn’t always a negative move.
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Micky: A lot of us probably saw World Cup games and I, for one, was impressed with the ball control and fitness. Much of it (at top international level) looked better than some in our leagues 1 and 2 and there was more attacking intent and fewer fouls.
I do not claim to be very well informed about the women’s game here, but I do not think that it is as big at grassroots level as in the USA. It is more popular than ever before, but I get the impression that it is the Number One female team sport in the US. I have never seen or really heard of women playing American football or baseball on any great scale in the US (and I may be totally wide of the mark) but when professional “soccer” arrived I get the impression that it seemed tailor-made at amateur level for girls and women. You even have “Soccer Moms” do you not? In contrast, here, we have women’s professional rugby and cricket and I think most recently net-ball which has been a traditional winter sport along with (field) hockey for girls for at least 70 years. Forgive me if my analysis of the American scene is not accurate, but the point is that here not all girls will have played “soccer” at school which is why most of us blokes fell in love with it, but for women if they did not play themselves, they may well be drawn to watching other sports. Tennis always seems a women’s TV favourite, but for a a significant number of women it may be true to say (but perhaps I am just old-fashioned) that sport has to vie with shopping, family events and “socialising”. Whilst there is significant male support for all these female sports – and bear in mind that football match attenders are male in the majority – it is perhaps a stronger female following that will transform the professional women’s game in the UK.
There is another problem in that the sport is concentrated on major clubs. So attending matches where the quality is good, depends on proximity to the grounds where these top English professional teams play. Even then, most of their matches are played on nearby non league grounds in their area. So even these locations will not necessarily be as easy to get to as going to the stadiums where the PL team plays.
The demise of the Belles reflects the course of the professional game here.
Rochdale 1 : Rovers 1 (Sadlier)
>>>>>>> Scorer > Score > Result Bonus > Total > Pts B/F > O/all
Donaldo>>> 0 >>>>> 4 >>>>> 3 >>>> 0 >>>> 7 >>>>> 0 >>>> 7
PDXMickey> 0 >>>>> 0 >>>>> 0 >>>> 0 >>>> 0 >>>>> 4 >>>> 4
Yorks Lad>> 0 >>>>> 4 >>>>> 3 >>>> 0 >>>> 7 >>>>> 0 >>>> 7
BVZ>>>>>>> 0 >>>>> 0 >>>>> 0 >>>> 0 >>>> 0 >>>>> 0 >>>> 0
Crazy>>>>> 0 >>>>> 0 >>>>> 0 >>>> 0 >>>>> 0 >>>>> 0 >>>> 0
Uthred>>>> 0 >>>>> 0 >>>>> 0 >>>> 0 >>>>> 0 >>>>> 7 >>>> 7
Mooligan>>> 0 >>>>> 4 >>>>> 3 >>>> 0 >>>> 7 >>>>> 7 >>>> 14
King Chmprr 0 >>>>> 0 >>>>> 0 >>>> 0 >>>> 0 >>>>> 0 >>>> 0
Small Azza> 0 >>>>> 0 >>>>> 0 >>>> 0 >>>>> 0 >>>>> 0 >>>> 0
Azza>>>>>> 4 >>>>> 0 >>>>> 0 >>>> 0 >>>>> 4 >>>>> 4 >>>> 8
Cheltenham 0 >>>>> 0 >>>>> 0 >>>> 0 >>>>> 0 >>>>> 0 >>>> 0
Nookie>>>> 0 >>>>> 0 >>>>> 0 >>>> 0 >>>> 0 >>>>> 16 >>>> 16
Selby>>>>> 0 >>>>> 0 >>>>> 0 >>>> 0 >>>>>> 0 >>>>> 0 >>>> 0
Lanza>>>>> 0 >>>>> 0 >>>>> 0 >>>> 0 >>>>> 0 >>>>> 0 >>>> 0
>>>>>>>>>> 4 >>>>> 12 >>>> 9 >>>> 0 >>>> 25 >>>> 38 >>> 63
posted on 13/8/19
I'm afraid there are a lot of fans asking what is happening behind the scenes with the board, money from cup run went to upgrade training facilities at Cantley Park I've been informed.
The wages saved by half of the team leaving plus the sale of Marquis is just for loans and players on a free, to cover their wages, so it would seem.
Yet, we haven't bought anyone since the year before last, and that was Whiteman.
You go on other forums and you cant have your opinions as it's like a closed shop. If you dare say anything against the board your shot down in flames, the same can be said about social media too.
I feel sorry for big Dave to be honest, the last two managers said same thing about our dreams of playing in the championship, must be done on a budget that seems to be getting smaller.
Someone but up a league table of teams in this league and what their budget was, we were 6th........ from the bottom. All though it was the season fergie left, McCann did wonders with the players we had.
Gav Baldwin said we want to be in championship, not just to make up the numbers but to have a bit of fun.
Two games in, two draws, still undefeated, but, if we had of got one of those strikers in ( one of those we'd allegedly agreed fees for with the club ) we would of had 6pts. On Saturday we play Fleetwood, could be a massive game for the board and big Dave as this could be the tipping point. Personally I think at this moment in time, we're not picking our best players and on Saturday it will be a big wake up call for the board and the players and big Dave.
I was there the other day when the fans booed the decision to take of Copps instead of a couple of other players. That's nothing compared to what's coming if they dont sort it out.
It laymans terms, the vast majority of fans are sick of all the talk, about these top notch strikers, of all the players were ready to sign, players lined up to sign, but nothing's happening. In nearly 50yrs of following the Rovers, I've never known/seen so much anger being aimed at the club before. Maybe it's just the time we live in.
posted on 13/8/19
Given the general state of DRFC/Club Doncaster from the advertised objective of a developing force to reach the Championship, it is difficult to understand why the Board did not put the brake on McCann’s “take it or leave it” contract negotiations which saw Rowe, Butler, Marosi and Andrew depart. You might have allowed him to gamble on 1 or 2, but not all 4. Given that the directors are experienced businessmen it was rather like giving away a lot of the essential machinery in the factory knowing that you probably did not have the means to replace it all. They let him proceed, either completely in agreement or without recognising the potential consequences. Crucial assets were discarded for nothing. Had they recognised McC’s near miss on promotion with the reward of a contract that tied him firmly to the club he might have been more cautious about its future, but there was no such initiative as far as we know. They also seemingly allowed the deal for the Rangers winger, an obvious replacement for Wilks, which looked pretty sound business irrespective of who would succeed McC, to lapse. They might also have started to look for a replacement for Marquis a bit sooner, given that they would sell him come what may instead of leaving it till now when anyone who is worthy of the role has probably found a new club.
Most of what was built by Ferguson and McCann in particular was swept away by McCann’s gamble that he could do even better from a new base. But leaving as he did, meant that his potential to do so went with him and, worse still, the club had to put everything on hold. Without a contract tying McCann down, the Board cannot be forgiven for failing see this possibility, failing to recognise that they had nothing to keep him in post, and that he could walk away, leaving that risk in the hands of the entire football club and its fans, a disastrous corporate strategic failure.
A huge burden rests on Darren’s shoulders and if he fails it will be the Board who should be held primarily responsible. Their promises about building for the future, any kind of long-term plan, have been shown to be totally empty. We are “also-rans” for the nth season in succession.
If somehow, we do challenge this time it will be rather like the Saunders/Flynn team bouncing back to the Championship with little or no help at all from a Board. After being guided to relegation by Dickov who was the last (albeit ill-chosen) manager who might be blamed for mismanagement and who left the club in tatters, we seem to have had to start from scratch practically every season since, which does not say much about the Board’s ability to consolidate and plan long term. This contrasts sharply with the strategy the fans have been fed at the forums every season since then. The sad thing is that up to now they have believed it.
posted on 13/8/19
Zigger, you say that in fifty odd years you haven’t seen anything like what fans are aiming at the board right now?
Have you forgotten the Richardson/Weaver years?
posted on 13/8/19
Im watching whats happening at Bury and Bolton. Loads more other clubs on the edge. Whilst I think the board made an error with GM's contract you have to respect their prudence. Lets be a bit patient for once!
posted on 13/8/19
It is easy to knock the board but as nookie says, look what is happening at Bury and Bolton.
At least we have responsible owners and the club is financially safe.
I don’t see a line of people offering to bankroll DRFC.
posted on 13/8/19
You both make valid points and their basic housekeeping is sound, but they have fallen short on the promised ambition. They may not have taken as many as 2 steps back, but you could hardly say we are stronger than this time last year. We are undoubtedly weaker, certainly as we stand today.
posted on 13/8/19
1 nil ....poor result
posted on 13/8/19
Moore needs to get his back side into gear and get us a decent striker….now.
posted on 13/8/19
Over twenty shots, three on target and no goals. I wonder what the "fans" who couldn't wait for Marquis to go are thinking now.
posted on 13/8/19
We put out a strong side. Statistically we were utterly dominant, yet we failed and the impression I got from a commentary that reached me only in short snatches was that we were contained fairly comfortably. I wonder whether we really contested the match with the required intensity. 24 shots and only 3 on target is worse than pathetic.
It could be worse, but probably the opposition were only very average. In reality it is the sort of game that we should be winning comfortably with a squad-based team if we are going anywhere this season.
Rather than getting the manager's take on the game it would be interesting to hear the CEO's on behalf of the Board.
posted on 13/8/19
4 or 5 quality players required including 2 strikers, if not we're fighting to stay in the league not top 6. Right from day 1 of pre season to now is a joke, nothing has got me off my seat in the games I've seen. We were lucky to get the equaliser against Rochdale Saturday and we'll be lucky to take anything against Fleetwood Saturday. Add to the mix Lincoln (Bolton sandwiched in between) then Rotherham and Ipswich we could be occupying one of the other 2 bottom 4 spots. FRUSTRATING!
posted on 13/8/19
Correct hound.....but quality
posted on 14/8/19
Don, don’t fall into the trap f believing the bbc stats.
24 shots is correct but three in target isn’t.
Shots that are blocked by defenders or hit the woodwork are not counted as being on target, even if a shot is blocked on the line as the Ennis one was late on in the game.
Only shots that are saved by the keeper count in the on target stats.
posted on 14/8/19
The emotional cycle of a Rovers supporter. Excitment, anticipation, impatience, frustration, anger , depression. This can be over a season or cycle several times a season. Im at the impatience stage.
posted on 14/8/19
Yes hound I remember the good old days of crowds of less than a thousand, King Kerry as manager but Richardson picking the team. Difference is everybody knew we were going down with a bent xxxxxxx in charge of our club. On this form we're looking more likely to be going out this league, unfortunately it's the wrong way.
This is a different type of board, we are in a different time, Gav the man is the board spokesperson, it's no good coming out spouting we want to go for promotion, we're not just going to get in the championship, we're going to have some fun when we get there.
It's no good trying to get promotion with a team full of loans, it won't work. The person I feel sorry for is Moore, he was promised all sorts yet has been left high n dry by the board. This striker is coming, that striker is on the radar, we've agreed terms with two clubs and just sorting out personal terms. Nothing. It looks like were going for a 17yr old striker from Rangers, according to the latest hype.
As for last night, should of had double figures against a team of reserves from Grimsby, Sadlier alone had 4 shots on target, so dont pay any attention to the BBC.
posted on 14/8/19
Funnily enough I do understand how the stats are compiled and that there is a degree of subjectivity to it all. I am not content with how things are looking and I have made my case. There are always other perspectives and interpretations but what I am seeing does not encourage me.
posted on 14/8/19
DM says Dont blame the strikers
We have players here to score goals for us.
Worrying?
posted on 16/8/19
Another loan player, at least this one is a striker. Big hopes for him, but, its another loan. Will we ever buy a striker or any player for that matter. All this is doing is making next season a copy of this, we will need to be looking at getting 6/7 players again come close season.
Dont get me wrong, once these players gell, I think we will storm this league, as these players will be worth millions to their clubs. Just seems like were a club that's developing players for their parent club and not promoting our own youngsters. Just another thing that Gav Baldwin said we were going to do, but doesn't now, look likely.
posted on 16/8/19
Its quite a sensible low risk , lowish cost strategy bringing in high potential loanees. We could burn all the Marquis money and not end up getting value. Most teams shuffle the pack at the end of the season anyway. If we did get promoted this year wed need to shuffle the pack anyway. Having said that its only through development of our own players that potentially gets us more money to spend. Theres got to be a Happy medium somewhere. Maybe he could tell us what our future is?😁
posted on 16/8/19
Weve had Kane now we ve got Sterling. What other current England players might we get? His scoring record over his short prefessional career is quite impressive albeit at junior level . He only ever came on as a sub for Sunderland. Im tipping him for 16-20 goals for us .
posted on 16/8/19
Well nookie, Donaldo posted three days ago that Harry Kane could be going out on loan and possibly to Portsmouth so there is still a chance we might get another England player.
On the subject of loans though, clubs like ours inevitably have to take advantage of the loan system to be able to survive and compete.
Sometimes it works heavily in our favour like with Herbie and Mallik last season.
Sometimes too the players we loaned became our contracted players, people like Mason and Whiteman recently and people like Sullivan and a Sharp in the past so it isn’t always a negative move.
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