Brewster appears to have taken Sturridge slot on the bench but he is behind Origi, Shaq in the pecking order so wont get much game time other than cups.

From that list Foden stands out.

comment by (kash) I'm the Mané - 6 Times Baby (U1108)
posted 2 minutes ago
Brewster appears to have taken Sturridge slot on the bench but he is behind Origi, Shaq in the pecking order so wont get much game time other than cups.

From that list Foden stands out.
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Ah okay, thanks - will update.

comment by (kash) I'm the Mané - 6 Times Baby (U1108)
posted 4 minutes ago
Brewster appears to have taken Sturridge slot on the bench but he is behind Origi, Shaq in the pecking order so wont get much game time other than cups.

From that list Foden stands out.
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Regarding Foden, I'd tend to agree but the question is - will he get the opportunities?

Trent comes out on top.

If England keeps up this incredible rate of youth development they'll have almost half a team in few years. Impressive stuff

comment by Michael Edwards FC {Proud owner of the 5 000 000th comment} (U2720)
posted 1 minute ago
Trent comes out on top.
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I don't think he counts!

comment by Winston (U16525)
posted 27 seconds ago
comment by Michael Edwards FC {Proud owner of the 5 000 000th comment} (U2720)
posted 1 minute ago
Trent comes out on top.
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I don't think he counts!
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Is it because he comes out on top?

comment by Michael Edwards FC {Proud owner of the 5 000 000th comment} (U2720)
posted 51 seconds ago
comment by Winston (U16525)
posted 27 seconds ago
comment by Michael Edwards FC {Proud owner of the 5 000 000th comment} (U2720)
posted 1 minute ago
Trent comes out on top.
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I don't think he counts!
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Is it because he comes out on top?
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No, it's because he's an established member of Liverpool's first XI and this article is about youngsters who have yet to reach that point.

I'd take out Greenwood and put Lingard in. He looks more likely to make a breakthrough this season and could be special in a few years

comment by Kane Hemmings (U1734)
posted 2 minutes ago
I'd take out Greenwood and put Lingard in. He looks more likely to make a breakthrough this season and could be special in a few years
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I think Lingard has a few more years of development yet before he can truly be considered an exciting youth prospect.

As has been said many times Foden is getting minutes in line with his age at pretty much exactly the same rate as Xavi and Iniesta. He turned 19 in May. Willock and Brewster too turned 19 in the spring. They don't want too much football.

Greenwood is too young at 17 to be getting major minutes, he'll break down if over played and at 5ft 9 and 11 stone I can't imagine he's stopped growing yet.

Mount looks ready.

KWP is 22 and there are too many ahead of him for England for him to claim a spot imo.

What has Foden done that makes him better than Lingard?

I haven't seen any reason to rate Foden except for him playing the role of making City look like they have interest in developing youth. Granted he could be a top player in future but he's never looked the part when I've seen him, not enough to make me think his future is at Man City.

comment by Robbing Hoody (U6374)
posted 8 minutes ago
As has been said many times Foden is getting minutes in line with his age at pretty much exactly the same rate as Xavi and Iniesta. He turned 19 in May. Willock and Brewster too turned 19 in the spring. They don't want too much football.

Greenwood is too young at 17 to be getting major minutes, he'll break down if over played and at 5ft 9 and 11 stone I can't imagine he's stopped growing yet.

Mount looks ready.

KWP is 22 and there are too many ahead of him for England for him to claim a spot imo.
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In your opinion - I don't agree and as we see other youngsters overtake him in their gametime, that starts to look less solid as a view.

Haven't seen any evidence about players who play at a young age breaking down.

You've not checked either.

There are dozens of examples of players who played loads in their teens who breakdown later (Pato, Owen, Fowler, Ox, Bale, Torres, Ronaldo, Wilshere, etc, etc).

It's not good for them. I remember Pep talking abput Wilshere and how Barca have six of him in their academy. They hold them back in Spain a bit, it'shugely rare for a teenager to get loads of minutes, and hey presto they get less injuries and have longer careers.

Dont want to tempt fate but mason mount looks level headed, which added to his talent can only be promising. Looks a great player already.
If zouma keeps having nightmares we could see tomori coming through too.

comment by Winston (U16525)
posted 24 minutes ago
comment by Kane Hemmings (U1734)
posted 2 minutes ago
I'd take out Greenwood and put Lingard in. He looks more likely to make a breakthrough this season and could be special in a few years
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I think Lingard has a few more years of development yet before he can truly be considered an exciting youth prospect.
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There’s a quote from Fergie out there about Lingard being a late developer. Can’t remember the exact words but something like: “When he’s 44 and playing in a local veterans’ league, then you’ll see some player.”

comment by Robbing Hoody (U6374)
posted 1 minute ago
You've not checked either.

There are dozens of examples of players who played loads in their teens who breakdown later (Pato, Owen, Fowler, Ox, Bale, Torres, Ronaldo, Wilshere, etc, etc).

It's not good for them. I remember Pep talking abput Wilshere and how Barca have six of him in their academy. They hold them back in Spain a bit, it'shugely rare for a teenager to get loads of minutes, and hey presto they get less injuries and have longer careers.
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tbf you could probably find hundreds more that are the opposite. Including the two best players in the world

comment by Nickasaurus (U9257)
posted 51 seconds ago
Dont want to tempt fate but mason mount looks level headed, which added to his talent can only be promising. Looks a great player already.
If zouma keeps having nightmares we could see tomori coming through too.
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I just can’t get over my disappointment that someone with a name like Mason Mount is not a cowboy.

comment by Clockwork Red (U4892)
posted 21 seconds ago
comment by Nickasaurus (U9257)
posted 51 seconds ago
Dont want to tempt fate but mason mount looks level headed, which added to his talent can only be promising. Looks a great player already.
If zouma keeps having nightmares we could see tomori coming through too.
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I just can’t get over my disappointment that someone with a name like Mason Mount is not a cowboy.
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or a prnstar?

comment by Robbing Hoody (U6374)
posted 4 minutes ago
You've not checked either.

There are dozens of examples of players who played loads in their teens who breakdown later (Pato, Owen, Fowler, Ox, Bale, Torres, Ronaldo, Wilshere, etc, etc).

It's not good for them. I remember Pep talking abput Wilshere and how Barca have six of him in their academy. They hold them back in Spain a bit, it'shugely rare for a teenager to get loads of minutes, and hey presto they get less injuries and have longer careers.
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And there are plenty who haven't.

Usually those injuries are linked to their body type rather than when they started playing.

Also, as I said to you last time, I'm not advocating that they suddenly start playing 50 times a season.

Ronaldo and Messi didn't play that much in their teens as it goes. Thw line I drew the other day was 100 games before the age of 21. Bodies are different though and I'd say Ronaldo and Rooney were stronger than Foden at the same age so can take more stress. Messi had peds ffs.

Proper Ronaldo did though and he was fvcked.

Tbh it's not really up for debate. There is loads of data on the subject.

Anyway Foden will do the best imo, certainly for England. Good to see tech players like him and Mount come through for England at CM too. I think TAA will end up there so that's a good three to have.

If a player's game is built on pace, like Owen, then arguably he would get more from his career by playing early and retiring early, than starting late and playing late?

swear messi had over 100 games by time he was 20

If you count Barca B yeah.