comment by Alfredo Morelos, Trailblazer (U8325)
posted 35 seconds ago
Naw no my Da
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Bye all
comment by Winston (U16525)
posted 9 minutes ago
Gingernuts (U2992)
I asserted no such thing and I did specifically mention large corporations in my initial post.
But their solicitors will always be smarter than HMRC - it's not good enough just to say 'close the loopholes'.
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I hear this one a lot. Probably a minor point in this wider debate here but this one has caught on and there is no substance to it.
Government have unfettered access to top legal counsel...they can afford the same lawyers as the big corporations.
Loopholes are left either deliberately or through 'carelessness'
It's certainly not impossible for government to draft clear and bulletproof tax regs and impose massive penalties for failure to comply. It's also not impossible for them to quickly close loopholes as they are discovered.
They just elect not to.
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comment by Gingernuts (U2992)
posted 21 minutes ago
comment by Winston (U16525)
posted 1 minute ago
Gingernuts (U2992)
I asserted no such thing and I did specifically mention large corporations in my initial post.
But their solicitors will always be smarter than HMRC - it's not good enough just to say 'close the loopholes'.
My view is that companies need to take some social responsibility and for people who say 'well they pay what they're legally required to', I just think that is a massive cop out.
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Businesses have different responsibilities to individuals.
We are at odds over the intention of your post so no need to drag it out
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You can be at odds as much as you like, I know what I meant and what I said.
comment by Magnum (U16400)
posted 18 minutes ago
comment by Winston (U16525)
posted 9 minutes ago
Gingernuts (U2992)
I asserted no such thing and I did specifically mention large corporations in my initial post.
But their solicitors will always be smarter than HMRC - it's not good enough just to say 'close the loopholes'.
----------------------------------------------------------------------
I hear this one a lot. Probably a minor point in this wider debate here but this one has caught on and there is no substance to it.
Government have unfettered access to top legal counsel...they can afford the same lawyers as the big corporations.
Loopholes are left either deliberately or through 'carelessness'
It's certainly not impossible for government to draft clear and bulletproof tax regs and impose massive penalties for failure to comply. It's also not impossible for them to quickly close loopholes as they are discovered.
They just elect not to.
----------------------------------------------------------------------
Interesting POV but I don't agree at all.
Companies that operate globally cannot be held to account with ease and if the government attempted to do so, I have no doubt that the likes of Amazon would throw more money at it than HMRC.
Irvine Welsh provides a perfect summary.
https://twitter.com/IrvineWelsh/status/1163473131203440640?s=20
comment by Winston (U16525)
posted 11 seconds ago
comment by Magnum (U16400)
posted 18 minutes ago
comment by Winston (U16525)
posted 9 minutes ago
Gingernuts (U2992)
I asserted no such thing and I did specifically mention large corporations in my initial post.
But their solicitors will always be smarter than HMRC - it's not good enough just to say 'close the loopholes'.
----------------------------------------------------------------------
I hear this one a lot. Probably a minor point in this wider debate here but this one has caught on and there is no substance to it.
Government have unfettered access to top legal counsel...they can afford the same lawyers as the big corporations.
Loopholes are left either deliberately or through 'carelessness'
It's certainly not impossible for government to draft clear and bulletproof tax regs and impose massive penalties for failure to comply. It's also not impossible for them to quickly close loopholes as they are discovered.
They just elect not to.
----------------------------------------------------------------------
Interesting POV but I don't agree at all.
Companies that operate globally cannot be held to account with ease and if the government attempted to do so, I have no doubt that the likes of Amazon would throw more money at it than HMRC.
----------------------------------------------------------------------
We'll disagree in that case.
I'm not saying it's easy...but I certainly don't think it's impossible and it's a poor excuse not to try.
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Magnum (U16400)
They do try, don't they? I believe a lot of tax payer money has been spent on it.
The people running those businesses should be ashamed.
https://metro.co.uk/2019/02/12/nhs-stockpiling-body-bags-prepare-no-deal-brexit-reveals-tory-minister-8574311/
Send the body bags straight to our workplaces.
Don’t remember seeing this on the side of a f*cking bus.
Every Tory & Brexit voter has blood on their racist little hands.
comment by Automatic For The People (U21889)
posted 2 minutes ago
Every Tory & Brexit voter has blood on their racist little hands.
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Here he is
Still going strong I see Sizzle?
Well played Ginger Just as I come on to offer my wholehearted support off you pop for luncheon old bean.
Toodles
comment by Winston (U16525)
posted 6 minutes ago
Magnum (U16400)
They do try, don't they? I believe a lot of tax payer money has been spent on it.
The people running those businesses should be ashamed.
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Well actually...they should be in prison. That's my point.
comment by Magnum (U16400)
posted 4 seconds ago
comment by Winston (U16525)
posted 6 minutes ago
Magnum (U16400)
They do try, don't they? I believe a lot of tax payer money has been spent on it.
The people running those businesses should be ashamed.
----------------------------------------------------------------------
Well actually...they should be in prison. That's my point.
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Yeh, no arguments from me there.
But as someone pointed out, what many of these companies are doing is legal.
Morally bankrupt, but legal.
comment by Winston (U16525)
posted 18 minutes ago
comment by Gingernuts (U2992)
posted 21 minutes ago
comment by Winston (U16525)
posted 1 minute ago
Gingernuts (U2992)
I asserted no such thing and I did specifically mention large corporations in my initial post.
But their solicitors will always be smarter than HMRC - it's not good enough just to say 'close the loopholes'.
My view is that companies need to take some social responsibility and for people who say 'well they pay what they're legally required to', I just think that is a massive cop out.
----------------------------------------------------------------------
Businesses have different responsibilities to individuals.
We are at odds over the intention of your post so no need to drag it out
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You can be at odds as much as you like, I know what I meant and what I said.
----------------------------------------------------------------------
Yep.
And I think you’re mixing me up with someone who gives one iota of a fwck whatsoever of what you meant you miserable curmudgeonly old cwnt.
Your ability and intention to destroy conversation is l known on these boards mate. Not amusing. Not clever. Just being a cwnt. Well done.
Now fwck off. There’s a good lad. I have an enjoyable lunch ahead of me.
Cretin.
comment by Winston (U16525)
posted 2 minutes ago
comment by Magnum (U16400)
posted 4 seconds ago
comment by Winston (U16525)
posted 6 minutes ago
Magnum (U16400)
They do try, don't they? I believe a lot of tax payer money has been spent on it.
The people running those businesses should be ashamed.
----------------------------------------------------------------------
Well actually...they should be in prison. That's my point.
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Yeh, no arguments from me there.
But as someone pointed out, what many of these companies are doing is legal.
Morally bankrupt, but legal.
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Engage with him at your peril Mags.
We can assure you he’ll just look for an argument and pull the whole thing down.
You’ve been warned
comment by Winston (U16525)
posted 1 minute ago
comment by Magnum (U16400)
posted 4 seconds ago
comment by Winston (U16525)
posted 6 minutes ago
Magnum (U16400)
They do try, don't they? I believe a lot of tax payer money has been spent on it.
The people running those businesses should be ashamed.
----------------------------------------------------------------------
Well actually...they should be in prison. That's my point.
----------------------------------------------------------------------
Yeh, no arguments from me there.
But as someone pointed out, what many of these companies are doing is legal.
Morally bankrupt, but legal.
----------------------------------------------------------------------
Agreed. And we need to find ways to make more of it illegal.
As for Amazon, they argue that they contribute through the massive amounts of tax paid by their employees and that they create wealth through that.
It's a short term argument and their long term goal (and don't have any doubts about it) is the employ one man and a dog.
The man will be there to feed the dog and the dog will be there to make sure the man doesn't touch anything.
comment by IvanGolacIsMagic (U5291)
posted 3 minutes ago
comment by Automatic For The People (U21889)
posted 2 minutes ago
Every Tory & Brexit voter has blood on their racist little hands.
----------------------------------------------------------------------
Here he is
Still going strong I see Sizzle?
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Food, medicine and fuel shortages, and now they can’t even guarantee safe tap water to drink. Of course they should be stockpiling body bags.
comment by Gingernuts (U2992)
posted 52 seconds ago
comment by Winston (U16525)
posted 2 minutes ago
comment by Magnum (U16400)
posted 4 seconds ago
comment by Winston (U16525)
posted 6 minutes ago
Magnum (U16400)
They do try, don't they? I believe a lot of tax payer money has been spent on it.
The people running those businesses should be ashamed.
----------------------------------------------------------------------
Well actually...they should be in prison. That's my point.
----------------------------------------------------------------------
Yeh, no arguments from me there.
But as someone pointed out, what many of these companies are doing is legal.
Morally bankrupt, but legal.
----------------------------------------------------------------------
Engage with him at your peril Mags.
We can assure you he’ll just look for an argument and pull the whole thing down.
You’ve been warned
----------------------------------------------------------------------
Doesn't bother me mate.
I never feel the need to Win arguments or convince anyone on here.
Just walk away when I'm fed up and filter them if theyre erse wholes.
Got a lot of time to fill in til I get to 75 mate.
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Comment deleted by Site Moderator
Gingernuts (U2992)
Grow up mate.
comment by Gingernuts (U2992)
posted 5 minutes ago
comment by Winston (U16525)
posted 18 minutes ago
comment by Gingernuts (U2992)
posted 21 minutes ago
comment by Winston (U16525)
posted 1 minute ago
Gingernuts (U2992)
I asserted no such thing and I did specifically mention large corporations in my initial post.
But their solicitors will always be smarter than HMRC - it's not good enough just to say 'close the loopholes'.
My view is that companies need to take some social responsibility and for people who say 'well they pay what they're legally required to', I just think that is a massive cop out.
----------------------------------------------------------------------
Businesses have different responsibilities to individuals.
We are at odds over the intention of your post so no need to drag it out
----------------------------------------------------------------------
You can be at odds as much as you like, I know what I meant and what I said.
----------------------------------------------------------------------
Yep.
And I think you’re mixing me up with someone who gives one iota of a fwck whatsoever of what you meant you miserable curmudgeonly old cwnt.
Your ability and intention to destroy conversation is l known on these boards mate. Not amusing. Not clever. Just being a cwnt. Well done.
Now fwck off. There’s a good lad. I have an enjoyable lunch ahead of me.
Cretin.
----------------------------------------------------------------------
Ouchee!
This cat has claws
Pension when you are 75...
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posted on 20/8/19
comment by Alfredo Morelos, Trailblazer (U8325)
posted 35 seconds ago
Naw no my Da
----------------------------------------------------------------------
Bye all
posted on 20/8/19
comment by Winston (U16525)
posted 9 minutes ago
Gingernuts (U2992)
I asserted no such thing and I did specifically mention large corporations in my initial post.
But their solicitors will always be smarter than HMRC - it's not good enough just to say 'close the loopholes'.
----------------------------------------------------------------------
I hear this one a lot. Probably a minor point in this wider debate here but this one has caught on and there is no substance to it.
Government have unfettered access to top legal counsel...they can afford the same lawyers as the big corporations.
Loopholes are left either deliberately or through 'carelessness'
It's certainly not impossible for government to draft clear and bulletproof tax regs and impose massive penalties for failure to comply. It's also not impossible for them to quickly close loopholes as they are discovered.
They just elect not to.
posted on 20/8/19
Comment deleted by Site Moderator
posted on 20/8/19
comment by Gingernuts (U2992)
posted 21 minutes ago
comment by Winston (U16525)
posted 1 minute ago
Gingernuts (U2992)
I asserted no such thing and I did specifically mention large corporations in my initial post.
But their solicitors will always be smarter than HMRC - it's not good enough just to say 'close the loopholes'.
My view is that companies need to take some social responsibility and for people who say 'well they pay what they're legally required to', I just think that is a massive cop out.
----------------------------------------------------------------------
Businesses have different responsibilities to individuals.
We are at odds over the intention of your post so no need to drag it out
----------------------------------------------------------------------
You can be at odds as much as you like, I know what I meant and what I said.
posted on 20/8/19
comment by Magnum (U16400)
posted 18 minutes ago
comment by Winston (U16525)
posted 9 minutes ago
Gingernuts (U2992)
I asserted no such thing and I did specifically mention large corporations in my initial post.
But their solicitors will always be smarter than HMRC - it's not good enough just to say 'close the loopholes'.
----------------------------------------------------------------------
I hear this one a lot. Probably a minor point in this wider debate here but this one has caught on and there is no substance to it.
Government have unfettered access to top legal counsel...they can afford the same lawyers as the big corporations.
Loopholes are left either deliberately or through 'carelessness'
It's certainly not impossible for government to draft clear and bulletproof tax regs and impose massive penalties for failure to comply. It's also not impossible for them to quickly close loopholes as they are discovered.
They just elect not to.
----------------------------------------------------------------------
Interesting POV but I don't agree at all.
Companies that operate globally cannot be held to account with ease and if the government attempted to do so, I have no doubt that the likes of Amazon would throw more money at it than HMRC.
posted on 20/8/19
Irvine Welsh provides a perfect summary.
https://twitter.com/IrvineWelsh/status/1163473131203440640?s=20
posted on 20/8/19
comment by Winston (U16525)
posted 11 seconds ago
comment by Magnum (U16400)
posted 18 minutes ago
comment by Winston (U16525)
posted 9 minutes ago
Gingernuts (U2992)
I asserted no such thing and I did specifically mention large corporations in my initial post.
But their solicitors will always be smarter than HMRC - it's not good enough just to say 'close the loopholes'.
----------------------------------------------------------------------
I hear this one a lot. Probably a minor point in this wider debate here but this one has caught on and there is no substance to it.
Government have unfettered access to top legal counsel...they can afford the same lawyers as the big corporations.
Loopholes are left either deliberately or through 'carelessness'
It's certainly not impossible for government to draft clear and bulletproof tax regs and impose massive penalties for failure to comply. It's also not impossible for them to quickly close loopholes as they are discovered.
They just elect not to.
----------------------------------------------------------------------
Interesting POV but I don't agree at all.
Companies that operate globally cannot be held to account with ease and if the government attempted to do so, I have no doubt that the likes of Amazon would throw more money at it than HMRC.
----------------------------------------------------------------------
We'll disagree in that case.
I'm not saying it's easy...but I certainly don't think it's impossible and it's a poor excuse not to try.
posted on 20/8/19
Comment deleted by Site Moderator
posted on 20/8/19
Magnum (U16400)
They do try, don't they? I believe a lot of tax payer money has been spent on it.
The people running those businesses should be ashamed.
posted on 20/8/19
https://metro.co.uk/2019/02/12/nhs-stockpiling-body-bags-prepare-no-deal-brexit-reveals-tory-minister-8574311/
Send the body bags straight to our workplaces.
Don’t remember seeing this on the side of a f*cking bus.
posted on 20/8/19
Every Tory & Brexit voter has blood on their racist little hands.
posted on 20/8/19
comment by Automatic For The People (U21889)
posted 2 minutes ago
Every Tory & Brexit voter has blood on their racist little hands.
----------------------------------------------------------------------
Here he is
Still going strong I see Sizzle?
posted on 20/8/19
Well played Ginger Just as I come on to offer my wholehearted support off you pop for luncheon old bean.
Toodles
posted on 20/8/19
comment by Winston (U16525)
posted 6 minutes ago
Magnum (U16400)
They do try, don't they? I believe a lot of tax payer money has been spent on it.
The people running those businesses should be ashamed.
----------------------------------------------------------------------
Well actually...they should be in prison. That's my point.
posted on 20/8/19
comment by Magnum (U16400)
posted 4 seconds ago
comment by Winston (U16525)
posted 6 minutes ago
Magnum (U16400)
They do try, don't they? I believe a lot of tax payer money has been spent on it.
The people running those businesses should be ashamed.
----------------------------------------------------------------------
Well actually...they should be in prison. That's my point.
----------------------------------------------------------------------
Yeh, no arguments from me there.
But as someone pointed out, what many of these companies are doing is legal.
Morally bankrupt, but legal.
posted on 20/8/19
comment by Winston (U16525)
posted 18 minutes ago
comment by Gingernuts (U2992)
posted 21 minutes ago
comment by Winston (U16525)
posted 1 minute ago
Gingernuts (U2992)
I asserted no such thing and I did specifically mention large corporations in my initial post.
But their solicitors will always be smarter than HMRC - it's not good enough just to say 'close the loopholes'.
My view is that companies need to take some social responsibility and for people who say 'well they pay what they're legally required to', I just think that is a massive cop out.
----------------------------------------------------------------------
Businesses have different responsibilities to individuals.
We are at odds over the intention of your post so no need to drag it out
----------------------------------------------------------------------
You can be at odds as much as you like, I know what I meant and what I said.
----------------------------------------------------------------------
Yep.
And I think you’re mixing me up with someone who gives one iota of a fwck whatsoever of what you meant you miserable curmudgeonly old cwnt.
Your ability and intention to destroy conversation is l known on these boards mate. Not amusing. Not clever. Just being a cwnt. Well done.
Now fwck off. There’s a good lad. I have an enjoyable lunch ahead of me.
Cretin.
posted on 20/8/19
comment by Winston (U16525)
posted 2 minutes ago
comment by Magnum (U16400)
posted 4 seconds ago
comment by Winston (U16525)
posted 6 minutes ago
Magnum (U16400)
They do try, don't they? I believe a lot of tax payer money has been spent on it.
The people running those businesses should be ashamed.
----------------------------------------------------------------------
Well actually...they should be in prison. That's my point.
----------------------------------------------------------------------
Yeh, no arguments from me there.
But as someone pointed out, what many of these companies are doing is legal.
Morally bankrupt, but legal.
----------------------------------------------------------------------
Engage with him at your peril Mags.
We can assure you he’ll just look for an argument and pull the whole thing down.
You’ve been warned
posted on 20/8/19
comment by Winston (U16525)
posted 1 minute ago
comment by Magnum (U16400)
posted 4 seconds ago
comment by Winston (U16525)
posted 6 minutes ago
Magnum (U16400)
They do try, don't they? I believe a lot of tax payer money has been spent on it.
The people running those businesses should be ashamed.
----------------------------------------------------------------------
Well actually...they should be in prison. That's my point.
----------------------------------------------------------------------
Yeh, no arguments from me there.
But as someone pointed out, what many of these companies are doing is legal.
Morally bankrupt, but legal.
----------------------------------------------------------------------
Agreed. And we need to find ways to make more of it illegal.
As for Amazon, they argue that they contribute through the massive amounts of tax paid by their employees and that they create wealth through that.
It's a short term argument and their long term goal (and don't have any doubts about it) is the employ one man and a dog.
The man will be there to feed the dog and the dog will be there to make sure the man doesn't touch anything.
posted on 20/8/19
comment by IvanGolacIsMagic (U5291)
posted 3 minutes ago
comment by Automatic For The People (U21889)
posted 2 minutes ago
Every Tory & Brexit voter has blood on their racist little hands.
----------------------------------------------------------------------
Here he is
Still going strong I see Sizzle?
----------------------------------------------------------------------
Food, medicine and fuel shortages, and now they can’t even guarantee safe tap water to drink. Of course they should be stockpiling body bags.
posted on 20/8/19
Bring out your dead.
posted on 20/8/19
comment by Gingernuts (U2992)
posted 52 seconds ago
comment by Winston (U16525)
posted 2 minutes ago
comment by Magnum (U16400)
posted 4 seconds ago
comment by Winston (U16525)
posted 6 minutes ago
Magnum (U16400)
They do try, don't they? I believe a lot of tax payer money has been spent on it.
The people running those businesses should be ashamed.
----------------------------------------------------------------------
Well actually...they should be in prison. That's my point.
----------------------------------------------------------------------
Yeh, no arguments from me there.
But as someone pointed out, what many of these companies are doing is legal.
Morally bankrupt, but legal.
----------------------------------------------------------------------
Engage with him at your peril Mags.
We can assure you he’ll just look for an argument and pull the whole thing down.
You’ve been warned
----------------------------------------------------------------------
Doesn't bother me mate.
I never feel the need to Win arguments or convince anyone on here.
Just walk away when I'm fed up and filter them if theyre erse wholes.
Got a lot of time to fill in til I get to 75 mate.
posted on 20/8/19
Comment deleted by Site Moderator
posted on 20/8/19
Comment deleted by Site Moderator
posted on 20/8/19
Gingernuts (U2992)
Grow up mate.
posted on 20/8/19
comment by Gingernuts (U2992)
posted 5 minutes ago
comment by Winston (U16525)
posted 18 minutes ago
comment by Gingernuts (U2992)
posted 21 minutes ago
comment by Winston (U16525)
posted 1 minute ago
Gingernuts (U2992)
I asserted no such thing and I did specifically mention large corporations in my initial post.
But their solicitors will always be smarter than HMRC - it's not good enough just to say 'close the loopholes'.
My view is that companies need to take some social responsibility and for people who say 'well they pay what they're legally required to', I just think that is a massive cop out.
----------------------------------------------------------------------
Businesses have different responsibilities to individuals.
We are at odds over the intention of your post so no need to drag it out
----------------------------------------------------------------------
You can be at odds as much as you like, I know what I meant and what I said.
----------------------------------------------------------------------
Yep.
And I think you’re mixing me up with someone who gives one iota of a fwck whatsoever of what you meant you miserable curmudgeonly old cwnt.
Your ability and intention to destroy conversation is l known on these boards mate. Not amusing. Not clever. Just being a cwnt. Well done.
Now fwck off. There’s a good lad. I have an enjoyable lunch ahead of me.
Cretin.
----------------------------------------------------------------------
Ouchee!
This cat has claws
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