I'm sorry for your loss, lost a few people quite close to me to suicide
I'm not entirely sure it's the easy way out however, must be at a pretty desperate stage to even consider ending your own life
I like this post
I know we've discussed this topic before on here and it is nice to see how society is moving on with regards to mental health.
My user name has a personal touch to it with regards to mental health and wellbeing - a few people will understand it's significance.
I don't think there is a"likely candidate" as such. People who know me will tell you I am outgoing, chatty and generally happy and like a laugh (often at the wrong moments) but I've had time under care of the Mental Health department in the forces. I had a fully supportive group of friends and family to help me through some really dark times.
I know others on here have had similar and are happy discussing it openly now. I am often cautious about who I open up to but find I am a lot more comfortable talking about it now that I am through it.
It is hard to talk about it when in the midst. You put on a brave face and go about your daily business, only those close to you will see the differences in you and sometimes not even they can.
It's certainly not an easy way out but it more an assessment of how they view their life and the lives of those around them at that time
taken the easy way out last weekend
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not a statement i am comfortable with in the slightest mate.
how bad must a person have to feel to be pushed to that? What must they be going through on a daily basis.
its a shame he never spoke to someone about it, he probably didn't want to worry them, perhaps they could have helped though.
i feel uneasy about depression tbh, many have serious mental health problems with it, and many are feeling a bit glum and the minute they step into a gp's office and say that they are officially "depressed"
off the back of a 3 minute diagnosis, and once thats in there, once you are given that nod it only serves to make things worse
"take these pills"
naw, take the pills and refer to a psychologist ffs.
"Personally just been made aware of family relative of my wife (47) who had taken the easy way out last weekend"
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I don't think you have any clue about mental illness.
These poor people are under horrendous suffering everyday, I can't imagine just how worthless they must feel to want to end it all.
I've heard people call them 'Selfish' and 'cowards'
Yeah, it must be so fvckin easy to kill yourself.
Call Sign
Appreciate your post and being so open about your personal situation.
Needless to say this has knocked me for 6 considering he was doing some work in my house earlier this year and I believed he was in a good place.
Maybe a poor choice of words but I don't think we should be giving Izzy a hard time here chaps.
i think its a comment which is often used and incorrectly, which i think izzy has done here.
i dont think there is any contempt behind it or anything of course.
sadly mental health is a growing "industry"
i volunteered with childline for a year and the problem is greater in young people than anyone can possibly imagine.
they never have nothing to do, never.
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mindfulness is a great thing, there is an app out there called headspace, the trial is free but it costs thereafter.
I used it for a bit and you feel the difference, everyones brain is like a computer, sometimes it needs reset and thats what meditation can do for it.
exercise as well, terrific for depression as it gives you a sense of purpose and goals. it's also great for self esteem, that you are taking control of your situation.
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Imagine having a really bad hangover/fear every single day for a year, but you have to get up, go to work do everything that you normally have to do.
Sometimes depression is down to truma, other times it's down to a chemical imbalance in the brain.
'Cheer up'
'Gie yersel a shake'
'You're just a bit down in the dumps'
Not that helpful to someone with clinical depression.
Like telling a paralized person to run a 100 metres.
exercise as well, terrific for depression as it gives you a sense of purpose and goals. it's also great for self esteem, that you are taking control of your situation.
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Totally agree mate. After my divorce I was in a pretty poor place and, while not quite at the stage of ending my life and it was never close to that, I won't pretend that I hadn't thought about how I'd do it if it came to it.
Exercise was the big catalyst for me to turn things around. I started looking after myself, lost a bit of weight, gave myself something to focus on and it started giving me a sense of achievement which was actually more important than I realised at the time.
for 5-10 minutes out your day its a no brainer mate.
i finish work at 5 and it is chaos for traffic, so i take the car to the back of the estate and do the app for 10 minutes, by the time i'm done the traffic has calmed.
i'll give that podcast a listen to on the way home tonight mate, sounds good.
Positive thinking, yoga, meditation, exercise if you can all help for me, obviously talking to people. Few close friends have done it and those left behind wonder why did they not talk to us. If it was only so simple.
Strides to combat things using mushrooms mdma and CBD going well in USA apparently.
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Anything that can divert someones perception to be more positive must help regardless of how it is delivered.
been there Ivan won't pretend i haven;t thought "what if" before.
i'll tell you something else, at low points in my life where i have felt a bit down, this forum is a rock. The chat on here will lift your mood 9 times out of 10.
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comment by Wieghorst (U12621)
posted 17 seconds ago
Positive thinking, yoga, meditation, exercise if you can all help for me, obviously talking to people. Few close friends have done it and those left behind wonder why did they not talk to us. If it was only so simple.
Strides to combat things using mushrooms mdma and CBD going well in USA apparently.
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Apparently pscilocybin[sp] grows new neural pathways/reboots the mind. Positive results seen in studies.
Aye - helping soldiers with PTSD also amongst others. I am all for it.
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posted 3 minutes ago
comment by IvanGolacIsMagic (U5291)
posted 14 seconds ago
exercise as well, terrific for depression as it gives you a sense of purpose and goals. it's also great for self esteem, that you are taking control of your situation.
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Totally agree mate. After my divorce I was in a pretty poor place and, while not quite at the stage of ending my life and it was never close to that, I won't pretend that I hadn't thought about how I'd do it if it came to it.
Exercise was the big catalyst for me to turn things around. I started looking after myself, lost a bit of weight, gave myself something to focus on and it started giving me a sense of achievement which was actually more important than I realised at the time.
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Your still from Dundee though so
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Having spent a year living in Aberdeen I'm even more proud of being a Dundonian
the brain is a minefield, even when they think they know something, evidence then refutes it.
in psychology there is no such thing as "proven" only "supports the theory"
as an example, facial recognition was previously attributed to a specific area of the brain, but new studies show activity in the opposite side, so really, they have no clue what processes are in place.
neuroplasticity is fascinating to me, in particular in relation to individuals who have suffered a stroke.
different areas of the brain picking up the slack of the damaged area, its beautiful. Though the greater the age, the less likely this will occur.
comment by JFK - The Rebel Treble (U8919)
posted 2 minutes ago
neuroplasticity is fascinating to me, in particular in relation to individuals who have suffered a stroke.
different areas of the brain picking up the slack of the damaged area, its beautiful. Though the greater the age, the less likely this will occur.
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Seen people with head injuries lose a large portion or their brain matter - and their cognition isn't affected at all.
There's a joke in there somewhere.
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posted on 20/8/19
I'm sorry for your loss, lost a few people quite close to me to suicide
I'm not entirely sure it's the easy way out however, must be at a pretty desperate stage to even consider ending your own life
posted on 20/8/19
I like this post
I know we've discussed this topic before on here and it is nice to see how society is moving on with regards to mental health.
My user name has a personal touch to it with regards to mental health and wellbeing - a few people will understand it's significance.
I don't think there is a"likely candidate" as such. People who know me will tell you I am outgoing, chatty and generally happy and like a laugh (often at the wrong moments) but I've had time under care of the Mental Health department in the forces. I had a fully supportive group of friends and family to help me through some really dark times.
I know others on here have had similar and are happy discussing it openly now. I am often cautious about who I open up to but find I am a lot more comfortable talking about it now that I am through it.
It is hard to talk about it when in the midst. You put on a brave face and go about your daily business, only those close to you will see the differences in you and sometimes not even they can.
It's certainly not an easy way out but it more an assessment of how they view their life and the lives of those around them at that time
posted on 20/8/19
taken the easy way out last weekend
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not a statement i am comfortable with in the slightest mate.
how bad must a person have to feel to be pushed to that? What must they be going through on a daily basis.
its a shame he never spoke to someone about it, he probably didn't want to worry them, perhaps they could have helped though.
i feel uneasy about depression tbh, many have serious mental health problems with it, and many are feeling a bit glum and the minute they step into a gp's office and say that they are officially "depressed"
off the back of a 3 minute diagnosis, and once thats in there, once you are given that nod it only serves to make things worse
"take these pills"
naw, take the pills and refer to a psychologist ffs.
posted on 20/8/19
"Personally just been made aware of family relative of my wife (47) who had taken the easy way out last weekend"
======
I don't think you have any clue about mental illness.
These poor people are under horrendous suffering everyday, I can't imagine just how worthless they must feel to want to end it all.
I've heard people call them 'Selfish' and 'cowards'
Yeah, it must be so fvckin easy to kill yourself.
posted on 20/8/19
Call Sign
Appreciate your post and being so open about your personal situation.
Needless to say this has knocked me for 6 considering he was doing some work in my house earlier this year and I believed he was in a good place.
posted on 20/8/19
Maybe a poor choice of words but I don't think we should be giving Izzy a hard time here chaps.
posted on 20/8/19
i think its a comment which is often used and incorrectly, which i think izzy has done here.
i dont think there is any contempt behind it or anything of course.
sadly mental health is a growing "industry"
i volunteered with childline for a year and the problem is greater in young people than anyone can possibly imagine.
they never have nothing to do, never.
posted on 20/8/19
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posted on 20/8/19
mindfulness is a great thing, there is an app out there called headspace, the trial is free but it costs thereafter.
I used it for a bit and you feel the difference, everyones brain is like a computer, sometimes it needs reset and thats what meditation can do for it.
exercise as well, terrific for depression as it gives you a sense of purpose and goals. it's also great for self esteem, that you are taking control of your situation.
posted on 20/8/19
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posted on 20/8/19
Imagine having a really bad hangover/fear every single day for a year, but you have to get up, go to work do everything that you normally have to do.
Sometimes depression is down to truma, other times it's down to a chemical imbalance in the brain.
'Cheer up'
'Gie yersel a shake'
'You're just a bit down in the dumps'
Not that helpful to someone with clinical depression.
Like telling a paralized person to run a 100 metres.
posted on 20/8/19
exercise as well, terrific for depression as it gives you a sense of purpose and goals. it's also great for self esteem, that you are taking control of your situation.
______________________________
Totally agree mate. After my divorce I was in a pretty poor place and, while not quite at the stage of ending my life and it was never close to that, I won't pretend that I hadn't thought about how I'd do it if it came to it.
Exercise was the big catalyst for me to turn things around. I started looking after myself, lost a bit of weight, gave myself something to focus on and it started giving me a sense of achievement which was actually more important than I realised at the time.
posted on 20/8/19
for 5-10 minutes out your day its a no brainer mate.
i finish work at 5 and it is chaos for traffic, so i take the car to the back of the estate and do the app for 10 minutes, by the time i'm done the traffic has calmed.
i'll give that podcast a listen to on the way home tonight mate, sounds good.
posted on 20/8/19
Positive thinking, yoga, meditation, exercise if you can all help for me, obviously talking to people. Few close friends have done it and those left behind wonder why did they not talk to us. If it was only so simple.
Strides to combat things using mushrooms mdma and CBD going well in USA apparently.
posted on 20/8/19
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posted on 20/8/19
Anything that can divert someones perception to be more positive must help regardless of how it is delivered.
posted on 20/8/19
been there Ivan won't pretend i haven;t thought "what if" before.
i'll tell you something else, at low points in my life where i have felt a bit down, this forum is a rock. The chat on here will lift your mood 9 times out of 10.
posted on 20/8/19
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posted on 20/8/19
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posted on 20/8/19
comment by Wieghorst (U12621)
posted 17 seconds ago
Positive thinking, yoga, meditation, exercise if you can all help for me, obviously talking to people. Few close friends have done it and those left behind wonder why did they not talk to us. If it was only so simple.
Strides to combat things using mushrooms mdma and CBD going well in USA apparently.
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Apparently pscilocybin[sp] grows new neural pathways/reboots the mind. Positive results seen in studies.
posted on 20/8/19
Aye - helping soldiers with PTSD also amongst others. I am all for it.
posted on 20/8/19
comment by Zachsda(The Ulcer Gazelle) (U1850)
posted 3 minutes ago
comment by IvanGolacIsMagic (U5291)
posted 14 seconds ago
exercise as well, terrific for depression as it gives you a sense of purpose and goals. it's also great for self esteem, that you are taking control of your situation.
______________________________
Totally agree mate. After my divorce I was in a pretty poor place and, while not quite at the stage of ending my life and it was never close to that, I won't pretend that I hadn't thought about how I'd do it if it came to it.
Exercise was the big catalyst for me to turn things around. I started looking after myself, lost a bit of weight, gave myself something to focus on and it started giving me a sense of achievement which was actually more important than I realised at the time.
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Your still from Dundee though so
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Having spent a year living in Aberdeen I'm even more proud of being a Dundonian
posted on 20/8/19
the brain is a minefield, even when they think they know something, evidence then refutes it.
in psychology there is no such thing as "proven" only "supports the theory"
as an example, facial recognition was previously attributed to a specific area of the brain, but new studies show activity in the opposite side, so really, they have no clue what processes are in place.
posted on 20/8/19
neuroplasticity is fascinating to me, in particular in relation to individuals who have suffered a stroke.
different areas of the brain picking up the slack of the damaged area, its beautiful. Though the greater the age, the less likely this will occur.
posted on 20/8/19
comment by JFK - The Rebel Treble (U8919)
posted 2 minutes ago
neuroplasticity is fascinating to me, in particular in relation to individuals who have suffered a stroke.
different areas of the brain picking up the slack of the damaged area, its beautiful. Though the greater the age, the less likely this will occur.
----------------------------------------------------------------------
Seen people with head injuries lose a large portion or their brain matter - and their cognition isn't affected at all.
There's a joke in there somewhere.
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