They more often than not don’t book players for professional fouls committed in the opposition’s half, particularly in the attacking third.
A lot of these fouls in the opposition half are this annoying thing when a defender turns his back to the player on the line then goes down to 'earn' the freekick to 'relieve the pressure' against teams who pen the opposition in with pressing from the front.
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comment by mancini (U7179)
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comment by rosso is facking happy(U17054)
posted 14 minutes ago
The best way to stamp this out is to start enforcing the delivery of cautions for professional fouls.
Whether a counter is imminent, underway or in full flow, if a player is adjudged to purposefully foul another (i.e. is adjudged to commit the offence with the primary intention of stopping the player rather than winning the ball), show them a yellow card.
No, "You've done that three times now, son, one more and it's a booking!" Get out the card the first time.
Committing professional fouls is cheating, and we need less of that in the game.
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And the ref blows the whistle if a foul is committed.
Are you advocating for a rule change so that every and any foul is carded?
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I was wondering that too. To me, its down to whether there’s a legitimate attempt to play the ball.
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That’s exactly what I’m saying.
Pulling an opposition player’s shirt when they’ve robbed the ball and beaten you in your attacking third is nipping a counter attack in the bud before it starts, it isn’t attempting to play the ball, and it should result in a booking.
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Yes but I don’t see much difference to fouls that happen in your own half either. Both are designed to stop attacks from progressing, it’s either no attempt to play the ball or not regardless of where it is on the pitch. At the moment, it’s not consistent that either get a yellow. Sterling got one at the weekend for example (rightly). I can’t remember any given for within their own half.
If Milner played for Burnley he`d get half a dozen red cards a season
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posted 38 minutes ago
If Milner played for Burnley he`d get half a dozen red cards a season
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He'd be flagged offside more often too
You need to look at the context of the fouls themselves, was the other team on a counter attack when they got fouled or were they passing it around the back and got fouled. sure we fouled, but most of the time it seemed like genuine attempts to get the ball via charging in with a quick press, rather than just committing a foul as they counter attacked
You can't decide this by whether an attempt to play the ball was made.
Players will just start doing the fouling so that it looks like an attempt to play the ball.
In fact, many tactical fouls still look like a legit attempt at playing the ball. Get the ball and if you can't then get the man. It would be landmines for the ref all over the place.
Legit foul?
Liverpool fans what can you not sugar coat?
A foul is a foul and a tactical foul is the worst kind in my view.
I think they should bring in sin-bins, and if a player fouls just so that the opponents momentum is broken, and these fouls are very clear. They should be sin-bined and can't play for 15 mins
This should stop certain teams from dirty little tactics.
comment by morespurs (U15748)
posted 57 minutes ago
Legit foul?
Liverpool fans what can you not sugar coat?
A foul is a foul and a tactical foul is the worst kind in my view.
I think they should bring in sin-bins, and if a player fouls just so that the opponents momentum is broken, and these fouls are very clear. They should be sin-bined and can't play for 15 mins
This should stop certain teams from dirty little tactics.
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Sugar coat? You're the one who called Liverpool out as the most consistent foulers when they are in fact the opposite, the least consistent. It's in the article you posted numbnuts.
comment by Klopptimus Prime - Die Unerträglichen (U1282)
posted 1 hour, 34 minutes ago
You can't decide this by whether an attempt to play the ball was made.
Players will just start doing the fouling so that it looks like an attempt to play the ball.
In fact, many tactical fouls still look like a legit attempt at playing the ball. Get the ball and if you can't then get the man. It would be landmines for the ref all over the place.
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Exactly.
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If a foul is a foul how can a tactical one be the worst kind of foul when a foul is a foul?
Liverpool conceded the least fouls in the league last season.
Morespurs' interpretation: What a bunch of dirty s
😂
More spurs this is shockingly bad even for you...
Bitter spurs.
Winks : We played well and city and liverpool should be be afraid
Im gonna call Spurs Spurs-VAR
comment by blav23 (U3068)
posted 47 minutes ago
Im gonna call Spurs Spurs-VAR
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Ok. Have fun with that.
Wow what a car crash
morespurs just keeps finding new ways to outdo himself.
Liverpool conceded the least fouls in the League last season.
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Well they would do wouldn't they, given that the majority of referees err on their side and give them the benefit of doubt.
comment by Billy The Yidd (U3924)
posted 31 seconds ago
Liverpool conceded the least fouls in the League last season.
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Well they would do wouldn't they, given that the majority of referees err on their side and give them the benefit of doubt.
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Apologies BitterBill, I forgot to take this into consideration. I hadn't considered that somebody with your intelligent might pull me up on this fact, considering you have me filtered and had to log out to read it. Apologies again.
comment by There'sOnlyOneRed's (U1721)
posted 5 minutes ago
comment by Billy The Yidd (U3924)
posted 31 seconds ago
Liverpool conceded the least fouls in the League last season.
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Well they would do wouldn't they, given that the majority of referees err on their side and give them the benefit of doubt.
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Apologies BitterBill, I forgot to take this into consideration. I hadn't considered that somebody with your intelligent might pull me up on this fact, considering you have me filtered and had to log out to read it. Apologies again.
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comment by Klopptimus Prime - Die Unerträglichen (U1282)
posted 11 hours, 27 minutes ago
If a foul is a foul how can a tactical one be the worst kind of foul when a foul is a foul?
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What?!
comment by Pâî§Lë¥'š _P䆆ê®ÑëÐ_ÐrÊåm§ (U1541)
posted 11 hours, 14 minutes ago
Liverpool conceded the least fouls in the league last season.
Morespurs' interpretation: What a bunch of dirtys
😂
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Did you even read the article?
I'll extract the bit that might be interesting:
======From BBC article, link in article here=======
A quick glance at the total number of fouls suggests City are not constant foulers. They committed 328 fouls last season, with only Liverpool (315) conceding fewer.
But, of course, City and Liverpool dominate possession, meaning they have less time to foul opponents and so should always be near the bottom of the foul list.
So we need to dig deeper. A measurement of every side's fouls-per-minute when out of possession would be ideal, but possession percentages are not measured by time spent on the ball so the result wouldn't be a fair representation.
How about the percentage of fouls committed in the opposition half? Now things fall a bit more into place.
Last season, 58.84% of City's 328 fouls were committed inside the opposition half, the third highest in the Premier League.
Who was highest? Liverpool, with 63.17% of their 315 fouls coming in the opponent's territory.
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Highest is Liverpool
I think you outdid yourself here
What a plonker, Rodney
Typical bollix from Pedosports.
comment by morespurs (U15748)
posted 4 minutes ago
comment by Pâî§Lë¥'š _P䆆ê®ÑëÐ_ÐrÊåm§ (U1541)
posted 11 hours, 14 minutes ago
Liverpool conceded the least fouls in the league last season.
Morespurs' interpretation: What a bunch of dirtys
😂
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Did you even read the article?
I'll extract the bit that might be interesting:
======From BBC article, link in article here=======
A quick glance at the total number of fouls suggests City are not constant foulers. They committed 328 fouls last season, with only Liverpool (315) conceding fewer.
But, of course, City and Liverpool dominate possession, meaning they have less time to foul opponents and so should always be near the bottom of the foul list.
So we need to dig deeper. A measurement of every side's fouls-per-minute when out of possession would be ideal, but possession percentages are not measured by time spent on the ball so the result wouldn't be a fair representation.
How about the percentage of fouls committed in the opposition half? Now things fall a bit more into place.
Last season, 58.84% of City's 328 fouls were committed inside the opposition half, the third highest in the Premier League.
Who was highest? Liverpool, with 63.17% of their 315 fouls coming in the opponent's territory.
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Highest is Liverpool
I think you outdid yourself here
What a plonker, Rodney
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Maybe you should have specified that then instead of saying we are the highest consistent foulers, when we are in fact the lowest.
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posted on 20/8/19
They more often than not don’t book players for professional fouls committed in the opposition’s half, particularly in the attacking third.
posted on 20/8/19
A lot of these fouls in the opposition half are this annoying thing when a defender turns his back to the player on the line then goes down to 'earn' the freekick to 'relieve the pressure' against teams who pen the opposition in with pressing from the front.
posted on 20/8/19
comment by rosso is facking happy (U17054)
posted 24 minutes ago
comment by meltonblue (U10617)
posted 49 minutes ago
comment by mancini (U7179)
posted 12 minutes ago
comment by rosso is facking happy(U17054)
posted 14 minutes ago
The best way to stamp this out is to start enforcing the delivery of cautions for professional fouls.
Whether a counter is imminent, underway or in full flow, if a player is adjudged to purposefully foul another (i.e. is adjudged to commit the offence with the primary intention of stopping the player rather than winning the ball), show them a yellow card.
No, "You've done that three times now, son, one more and it's a booking!" Get out the card the first time.
Committing professional fouls is cheating, and we need less of that in the game.
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And the ref blows the whistle if a foul is committed.
Are you advocating for a rule change so that every and any foul is carded?
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I was wondering that too. To me, its down to whether there’s a legitimate attempt to play the ball.
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That’s exactly what I’m saying.
Pulling an opposition player’s shirt when they’ve robbed the ball and beaten you in your attacking third is nipping a counter attack in the bud before it starts, it isn’t attempting to play the ball, and it should result in a booking.
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Yes but I don’t see much difference to fouls that happen in your own half either. Both are designed to stop attacks from progressing, it’s either no attempt to play the ball or not regardless of where it is on the pitch. At the moment, it’s not consistent that either get a yellow. Sterling got one at the weekend for example (rightly). I can’t remember any given for within their own half.
posted on 20/8/19
If Milner played for Burnley he`d get half a dozen red cards a season
posted on 20/8/19
comment by Billy The Yidd (U3924)
posted 38 minutes ago
If Milner played for Burnley he`d get half a dozen red cards a season
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He'd be flagged offside more often too
posted on 20/8/19
You need to look at the context of the fouls themselves, was the other team on a counter attack when they got fouled or were they passing it around the back and got fouled. sure we fouled, but most of the time it seemed like genuine attempts to get the ball via charging in with a quick press, rather than just committing a foul as they counter attacked
posted on 20/8/19
You can't decide this by whether an attempt to play the ball was made.
Players will just start doing the fouling so that it looks like an attempt to play the ball.
In fact, many tactical fouls still look like a legit attempt at playing the ball. Get the ball and if you can't then get the man. It would be landmines for the ref all over the place.
posted on 20/8/19
Legit foul?
Liverpool fans what can you not sugar coat?
A foul is a foul and a tactical foul is the worst kind in my view.
I think they should bring in sin-bins, and if a player fouls just so that the opponents momentum is broken, and these fouls are very clear. They should be sin-bined and can't play for 15 mins
This should stop certain teams from dirty little tactics.
posted on 20/8/19
comment by morespurs (U15748)
posted 57 minutes ago
Legit foul?
Liverpool fans what can you not sugar coat?
A foul is a foul and a tactical foul is the worst kind in my view.
I think they should bring in sin-bins, and if a player fouls just so that the opponents momentum is broken, and these fouls are very clear. They should be sin-bined and can't play for 15 mins
This should stop certain teams from dirty little tactics.
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Sugar coat? You're the one who called Liverpool out as the most consistent foulers when they are in fact the opposite, the least consistent. It's in the article you posted numbnuts.
posted on 20/8/19
comment by Klopptimus Prime - Die Unerträglichen (U1282)
posted 1 hour, 34 minutes ago
You can't decide this by whether an attempt to play the ball was made.
Players will just start doing the fouling so that it looks like an attempt to play the ball.
In fact, many tactical fouls still look like a legit attempt at playing the ball. Get the ball and if you can't then get the man. It would be landmines for the ref all over the place.
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Exactly.
posted on 20/8/19
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posted on 20/8/19
If a foul is a foul how can a tactical one be the worst kind of foul when a foul is a foul?
posted on 20/8/19
Liverpool conceded the least fouls in the league last season.
Morespurs' interpretation: What a bunch of dirty s
😂
posted on 21/8/19
More spurs this is shockingly bad even for you...
posted on 21/8/19
Bitter spurs.
Winks : We played well and city and liverpool should be be afraid
posted on 21/8/19
Im gonna call Spurs Spurs-VAR
posted on 21/8/19
comment by blav23 (U3068)
posted 47 minutes ago
Im gonna call Spurs Spurs-VAR
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Ok. Have fun with that.
posted on 21/8/19
Wow what a car crash
morespurs just keeps finding new ways to outdo himself.
posted on 21/8/19
Liverpool conceded the least fouls in the League last season.
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Well they would do wouldn't they, given that the majority of referees err on their side and give them the benefit of doubt.
posted on 21/8/19
comment by Billy The Yidd (U3924)
posted 31 seconds ago
Liverpool conceded the least fouls in the League last season.
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Well they would do wouldn't they, given that the majority of referees err on their side and give them the benefit of doubt.
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Apologies BitterBill, I forgot to take this into consideration. I hadn't considered that somebody with your intelligent might pull me up on this fact, considering you have me filtered and had to log out to read it. Apologies again.
posted on 21/8/19
comment by There'sOnlyOneRed's (U1721)
posted 5 minutes ago
comment by Billy The Yidd (U3924)
posted 31 seconds ago
Liverpool conceded the least fouls in the League last season.
=========================================
Well they would do wouldn't they, given that the majority of referees err on their side and give them the benefit of doubt.
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Apologies BitterBill, I forgot to take this into consideration. I hadn't considered that somebody with your intelligent might pull me up on this fact, considering you have me filtered and had to log out to read it. Apologies again.
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posted on 21/8/19
comment by Klopptimus Prime - Die Unerträglichen (U1282)
posted 11 hours, 27 minutes ago
If a foul is a foul how can a tactical one be the worst kind of foul when a foul is a foul?
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What?!
posted on 21/8/19
comment by Pâî§Lë¥'š _P䆆ê®ÑëÐ_ÐrÊåm§ (U1541)
posted 11 hours, 14 minutes ago
Liverpool conceded the least fouls in the league last season.
Morespurs' interpretation: What a bunch of dirtys
😂
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Did you even read the article?
I'll extract the bit that might be interesting:
======From BBC article, link in article here=======
A quick glance at the total number of fouls suggests City are not constant foulers. They committed 328 fouls last season, with only Liverpool (315) conceding fewer.
But, of course, City and Liverpool dominate possession, meaning they have less time to foul opponents and so should always be near the bottom of the foul list.
So we need to dig deeper. A measurement of every side's fouls-per-minute when out of possession would be ideal, but possession percentages are not measured by time spent on the ball so the result wouldn't be a fair representation.
How about the percentage of fouls committed in the opposition half? Now things fall a bit more into place.
Last season, 58.84% of City's 328 fouls were committed inside the opposition half, the third highest in the Premier League.
Who was highest? Liverpool, with 63.17% of their 315 fouls coming in the opponent's territory.
===========================
Highest is Liverpool
I think you outdid yourself here
What a plonker, Rodney
posted on 21/8/19
Typical bollix from Pedosports.
posted on 21/8/19
comment by morespurs (U15748)
posted 4 minutes ago
comment by Pâî§Lë¥'š _P䆆ê®ÑëÐ_ÐrÊåm§ (U1541)
posted 11 hours, 14 minutes ago
Liverpool conceded the least fouls in the league last season.
Morespurs' interpretation: What a bunch of dirtys
😂
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Did you even read the article?
I'll extract the bit that might be interesting:
======From BBC article, link in article here=======
A quick glance at the total number of fouls suggests City are not constant foulers. They committed 328 fouls last season, with only Liverpool (315) conceding fewer.
But, of course, City and Liverpool dominate possession, meaning they have less time to foul opponents and so should always be near the bottom of the foul list.
So we need to dig deeper. A measurement of every side's fouls-per-minute when out of possession would be ideal, but possession percentages are not measured by time spent on the ball so the result wouldn't be a fair representation.
How about the percentage of fouls committed in the opposition half? Now things fall a bit more into place.
Last season, 58.84% of City's 328 fouls were committed inside the opposition half, the third highest in the Premier League.
Who was highest? Liverpool, with 63.17% of their 315 fouls coming in the opponent's territory.
===========================
Highest is Liverpool
I think you outdid yourself here
What a plonker, Rodney
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Maybe you should have specified that then instead of saying we are the highest consistent foulers, when we are in fact the lowest.
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