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Attendance figures are way off scale?

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posted on 21/8/19

Been through this, West Ham and Arsenal both take attendance records on tickets sold, not who actually turns up which is ridiculous really and a joke.

Every team should report attendances in the same way, there should be a standard.

comment by Tomkins (U1116)

posted on 21/8/19

Why would you get so upset by this?

posted on 21/8/19

comment by Tomkins (U1116)
posted 17 seconds ago
Why would you get so upset by this?
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Err, hello? who's upset?

Just want to know what is the purpose to do it on ticket count, and not on count of people who've actually turned up?

It highlights the fact that many people buy these tickets and don't even bother turning up. Yet they get counted as having turned up?

Clubs shoud encourage those who come to games, not just those who buy the tickets and deprive genuine fans from getting to the stadium?

posted on 21/8/19

Triggered.

posted on 21/8/19

It is ridiculous. It should be the number of PEOPLE attending the game and West Ham fans should not be counted as people.

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posted on 21/8/19

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posted on 21/8/19

comment by Ace (U18814)
posted 1 minute ago
It’s a known fact that Arsenal and West Ham report on tickets sold, not bodies through the gate. This has been done to death. Arsenal have reported almost full houses when thousands of empty seats are visible on the TV. Spurs and most others report on bodies through the gate. No idea why some do it one way and some so it another. As someone who infuriatingly failed to get tickets for the next 3 home games when they went on sale to members this week and all sold out straight away, I can safely say Spurs aren’t having an issue filling the new stadium.
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How do you know these people will turn up though if that is what Arsenal are basing their attendances on and there are empty seats?

posted on 21/8/19

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comment by Scouse (U9675)

posted on 21/8/19

Club owners having a "who's got the biggest willy" competition?

posted on 21/8/19

comment by Scouse (U9675)
posted 29 seconds ago
Club owners having a "who's got the biggest willy" competition?
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Maybe not. It maybe due to marketing purposes, for looking attractive to potential rich buyers. They can show 99% attendance at each home games, they look like they are "raking" it ?

I am guessing - though..

posted on 21/8/19

comment by Tomkins (U1116)
posted 4 minutes ago
Why would you get so upset by this?
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Of course people will be upset because it allows yourselves, Arsenal and City to pretend you are bigger clubs than you are.

I've always said it should be enforced that each team has to give the actual number of people in the stadium but of course the Prem won't do this as they want the product to appear as popular as possible.

Its when the police publish the real figures that the fackers get caught out.

posted on 21/8/19

It’s because clubs have to report the attendance within a set time frame after the match. The vast majority go with the tickets sold as it’s easier for them to do it. That and ultimately, all the clubs and owners will care about is whether the ticket is sold or not, they don’t care if the person turns up or not as long as they get the money.

posted on 21/8/19

attendance
/əˈtɛnd(ə)ns/

noun

the number of people present at a particular place or event.
plural noun: attendances


I think Arsenal and West Ham are confusing ticket sales with actual attendance.

posted on 21/8/19

We'd have 300% attendance.

100% tickets sales, every game has been a sell out with 140k+ members unable to get tickets.

We win

comment by Scouse (U9675)

posted on 21/8/19

comment by morespurs (U15748)
posted 33 minutes ago
comment by Scouse (U9675)
posted 29 seconds ago
Club owners having a "who's got the biggest willy" competition?
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Maybe not. It maybe due to marketing purposes, for looking attractive to potential rich buyers. They can show 99% attendance at each home games, they look like they are "raking" it ?

I am guessing - though..
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I thought the income from ticket sales was literally "small change" compared to TV money?

comment by Tomkins (U1116)

posted on 21/8/19

Is your life that boring that you have to find something different to whinge about every day? Yesterday it was some nonsense about 'tactical fouling'. Now it is some drivel about attendances.

You are trying to make it out that the whole world is against poor spursy wurs, when the reality is that you get all the favours from referees/VAR and the media love you.

Find something else to do with your life, it really doesn't sound like you are enjoying it.

posted on 21/8/19

comment by Tomkins (U1116)
posted 12 minutes ago
Is your life that boring that you have to find something different to whinge about every day? Yesterday it was some nonsense about 'tactical fouling'. Now it is some drivel about attendances.

You are trying to make it out that the whole world is against poor spursy wurs, when the reality is that you get all the favours from referees/VAR and the media love you.

Find something else to do with your life, it really doesn't sound like you are enjoying it.
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Seems like you're bored mate

I bring up subjects that I find interesting and ask others for input, as quitea few people here have a very good understanding of the game and things relating to the game.

I seek other point of views on matters related to football.

You seem to be so upset about this subject. This wasn't an attempt at to pick on any team, just wanted to know why these two particular clubs from the premier league don't count attendances through the turnstiles?

Now, it feels like you're too defensive because this is a sore subject for you?

posted on 21/8/19

comment by Scouse (U9675)
posted 17 minutes ago
comment by morespurs (U15748)
posted 33 minutes ago
comment by Scouse (U9675)
posted 29 seconds ago
Club owners having a "who's got the biggest willy" competition?
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Maybe not. It maybe due to marketing purposes, for looking attractive to potential rich buyers. They can show 99% attendance at each home games, they look like they are "raking" it ?

I am guessing - though..
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I thought the income from ticket sales was literally "small change" compared to TV money?


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That's it. I don't know. I thought too but then why not count people through the turnstiles for attendance.

comment by Tomkins (U1116)

posted on 21/8/19

Seems like you're bored mate

I bring up subjects that I find interesting and ask others for input, as quitea few people here have a very good understanding of the game and things relating to the game.

I seek other point of views on matters related to football.

You seem to be so upset about this subject. This wasn't an attempt at to pick on any team, just wanted to know why these two particular clubs from the premier league don't count attendances through the turnstiles?

Now, it feels like you're too defensive because this is a sore subject for you?

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I am bored. Bored of your boring posts

Now you are trying to deflect that you are upset by calling someone else upset Just read your OP.. absolutely raging

Oh and by posting a lauging face does not mean you have won an argument or are remotely funny. You and deleboy both

comment by SB&S (U17757)

posted on 21/8/19

comment by Scouse (U9675)
posted 27 minutes ago
comment by morespurs (U15748)
posted 33 minutes ago
comment by Scouse (U9675)
posted 29 seconds ago
Club owners having a "who's got the biggest willy" competition?
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Maybe not. It maybe due to marketing purposes, for looking attractive to potential rich buyers. They can show 99% attendance at each home games, they look like they are "raking" it ?

I am guessing - though..
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I thought the income from ticket sales was literally "small change" compared to TV money?


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It is at West Ham as loads of tickets are free to locals anyway and they do a lot of discounting, 2 for 1 etc. and kids get in for a pound. Then they have the long distance seats where the view from the seat is more than half a mile from the centre spot and so on. West ham make very little on match days but they do not have to as the taxpayer pays for pretty much everything else like policing and so on. I understand they are thinking about putting up statues of their two main benefactors Boris Johnson and Seb Coe whose munificence on behalf of you and me paid for the stadium and its later conversion to an athletics / football stadium..

comment by Tomkins (U1116)

posted on 21/8/19

comment by SB&S (U17757)

posted 9 minutes ago

comment by Scouse (U9675)
posted 27 minutes ago
comment by morespurs (U15748)
posted 33 minutes ago
comment by Scouse (U9675)
posted 29 seconds ago
Club owners having a "who's got the biggest willy" competition?
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Maybe not. It maybe due to marketing purposes, for looking attractive to potential rich buyers. They can show 99% attendance at each home games, they look like they are "raking" it ?

I am guessing - though..
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I thought the income from ticket sales was literally "small change" compared to TV money?


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It is at West Ham as loads of tickets are free to locals anyway and they do a lot of discounting, 2 for 1 etc. and kids get in for a pound. Then they have the long distance seats where the view from the seat is more than half a mile from the centre spot and so on. West ham make very little on match days but they do not have to as the taxpayer pays for pretty much everything else like policing and so on. I understand they are thinking about putting up statues of their two main benefactors Boris Johnson and Seb Coe whose munificence on behalf of you and me paid for the stadium and its later conversion to an athletics / football stadium.

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I have never read so much bitter drivel in my life

comment by Phenom (U20037)

posted on 21/8/19

comment by Tomkins (U1116)
posted 7 minutes ago
comment by SB&S (U17757)

posted 9 minutes ago

comment by Scouse (U9675)
posted 27 minutes ago
comment by morespurs (U15748)
posted 33 minutes ago
comment by Scouse (U9675)
posted 29 seconds ago
Club owners having a "who's got the biggest willy" competition?
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Maybe not. It maybe due to marketing purposes, for looking attractive to potential rich buyers. They can show 99% attendance at each home games, they look like they are "raking" it ?

I am guessing - though..
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I thought the income from ticket sales was literally "small change" compared to TV money?


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It is at West Ham as loads of tickets are free to locals anyway and they do a lot of discounting, 2 for 1 etc. and kids get in for a pound. Then they have the long distance seats where the view from the seat is more than half a mile from the centre spot and so on. West ham make very little on match days but they do not have to as the taxpayer pays for pretty much everything else like policing and so on. I understand they are thinking about putting up statues of their two main benefactors Boris Johnson and Seb Coe whose munificence on behalf of you and me paid for the stadium and its later conversion to an athletics / football stadium.

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I have never read so much bitter drivel in my life
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ay? how can you call anyone bitter ffs

bitter about facking west ham, dream on

you do realise it is well known that West Ham and Arsenal both announce tickets sold, where as Spurs announce the through the gate(actual attendance) as the attendance

sums up those 2 disgusting clubs tbh.

posted on 21/8/19

comment by Tomkins (U1116)
posted 28 minutes ago
Seems like you're bored mate

I bring up subjects that I find interesting and ask others for input, as quitea few people here have a very good understanding of the game and things relating to the game.

I seek other point of views on matters related to football.

You seem to be so upset about this subject. This wasn't an attempt at to pick on any team, just wanted to know why these two particular clubs from the premier league don't count attendances through the turnstiles?

Now, it feels like you're too defensive because this is a sore subject for you?

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I am bored. Bored of your boring posts

Now you are trying to deflect that you are upset by calling someone else upsetJust read your OP.. absolutely raging

Oh and by posting a lauging face does not mean you have won an argument or are remotely funny. You and deleboy both


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If you're so "bored", why don't you fack off?

comment by Tomkins (U1116)

posted on 21/8/19

Cos i've got you all fuming and it is entertaining.

posted on 21/8/19

comment by Tomkins (U1116)
posted 4 minutes ago
Cos i've got you all fuming and it is entertaining.
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Fuming

Go back to your own board. You're beginning to look like the resident Liverpool fans we have camped on here.

They're all obsessed with Tottenham... Bless 'em

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