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comment by sandy (U20567)
posted 5 hours, 16 minutes ago
This is still one of the great countries to live in. But there is still a massive inequality between those that have and those that don`t.
Also a massive class division between large parts of the country. The difference between places like Barnsley and Westminster is absolutely immense.
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Glad you're sticking up for your country, Sandy - Good man! I suspect that the projected effects of Brexit on the NHS may be correct.
On the difference between Barnsley and Westminster, remember your history of football - how it all got started back in the 1860's. The working classes in places like Barnsley and Burnley and Birmingham couldn't compete with the big well-fed public school types at Rugby. So they developed a team sport called Association Football, whereby teamwork overcame brawn.
In the begining teams like the Old Etonians won it. But not for long! Ten years later it was Blackburn Rovers, Aston Villa, PNE, and WBA. All working class teams of lads, that 30 years later were getting slaughtered in the PALS battalions in the First World War.
comment by Automatic For The People (U21889)
posted 7 hours, 54 minutes ago
comment by GeniusGreaves (U1302)
posted 14 minutes ago
Corbyn destroyed the Conservative Majority and garnered 40 per cent of the vote. He also has the biggest mandate of any Leader currently leading their Party. So I think we will keep him thanks very much.
He is now on this third Tory Leader, about half a dozen Brexit Secretaries and about 100 UKIP Leaders. So I don`t think he is the one that cannot lead.
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He didn’t get elected though did he Sandy
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Neither did the Maybot, that’s why we have the appalling DUP propping up the Government.
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Agree, The awful DUP holding us all to ransom. Want to be part of the UK, but don't want the same laws. Joke party that don't represent the majority in Northern Ireland.
comment by GeniusGreaves (U1302)
posted 8 hours, 19 minutes ago
Did you actually listen to Boris during his meeting with Merkel?
They got on extremely well and Boris was almost statesman like
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Total waste of time Genius. GIving him 30 days, that others in three years have not been able solve. He looked a total clown up against Macron.
comment by thebluebellsarablue (U9292)
posted 7 hours, 47 minutes ago
comment by Automatic For The People (U21889)
posted 9 minutes ago
comment by thebluebellsarablue (U9292)
posted 2 minutes ago
comment by GeniusGreaves (U1302)
posted 18 minutes ago
Corbyn destroyed the Conservative Majority and garnered 40 per cent of the vote. He also has the biggest mandate of any Leader currently leading their Party. So I think we will keep him thanks very much.
He is now on this third Tory Leader, about half a dozen Brexit Secretaries and about 100 UKIP Leaders. So I don`t think he is the one that cannot lead.
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He didn’t get elected though did he Sandy
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GG.
Most Labour folk reject jezza now too and Tories are way ahead in polls.
Corbynista ruined working class support for Labour.
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The “working class” support have gone to The Brexit Party.
Good riddance to bad rubbish.
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Red flag flying high?
Not anymore lol
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The Tories are not way ahead in the polls. One Tory Rag put them ahead, and at the last election they were apparently well ahead, and then proceeding to lose over 30 seats to Labour. Learn not to believe the nonsense put out by the Tory media.
According to the media Labour are losing members, conveniently forgetting to say the membership quadrupled under Corbyn and is still close to half a million, which is still more than every other party combined.
The only mistake Corbyn made was not deselecting the MPs that tried to overthrow him, and are still sniping. They should have been replaced two or three years back, they are very little use to the Labour cause.
comment by GeniusGreaves (U1302)
posted 14 hours, 56 minutes ago
Who’s your type of PM?
Tommy Robinson?
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sizzle again assuming that anyone who disagrees with him is a right wing racist
Just to let you know I wouldn’t pee on Robinson if he was on fire
Sandy
You and everyone else knows Corbyn is just McDonnell and McCluskey’s puppet.
I wouldn’t mind betting that in the unlikely event Corbyn ever got elected, he would be replaced in less than a year
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No different to Johnson being a puppet of the hard right ERG and Farage.
Amazing this morning how not a mention on Sky of Johnson`s car crash of a meeting with Macron yesterday, when the day before they were all over the Johnson/Merkel meeting. Shows you how they skew the news in the favour of the Tories.
Always been the way Sandy.
Rupert Murdoch has run this country for decades.
comment by Automatic For The People (U21889)
posted 1 hour, 23 minutes ago
Always been the way Sandy.
Rupert Murdoch has run this country for decades.
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Absolutely. Disgusting how a few media barons can have such a stranglehold over the British media.
Macron has an approval rating of 22% in France. We can hardly wax lyrical about him.
France are not asking us to solve their problems either.
France’s economy is in a poor state, which is one of the reasons that Macron’s popularity is so low.
Italy are in a far worse state and potentially could become another Greece!
Debt and doom loops: The eurozone's Italian nightmare
Italy's president has begun talks with key players to end political turmoil in the eurozone's number three economy. But an anti-euro party could soon be running a country that owes European banks a fortune.
With new British Prime Minister Boris Johnson having apparently scheduled a no-deal Brexit for October 31 this year, Halloween is already shaping up to be more ghoulish than usual for the EU.
But there's an even more terrifying story spooking Eurocrats in 2019, and it comes from Italy.
Do you know what a mini-BOT is? It might sound like something from a robotic, dystopian future, but it's the informal name given to a prospective "parallel currency" that many in Matteo Salvini's right-wing Lega party are in favor of bringing into circulation in Italy.
The idea behind these prospective mini-BOTs (literally mini "bills of treasury" is that they could be issued in small denominations and used by the Italian government to pay off some of the mountain of debt it owes to commercial businesses and suppliers.
Whether the mini-BOTs ever come into circulation or not remains to be seen. But several Italian economists and analysts have said they could serve as a stepping stone on the way to an alternative currency in Italy if they do.
Matteo Salvini, leader of Lega and a prospective Italian prime minister, once described the euro as "a crime against humanity"
Salvini's party, until recently part of a rickety coalition with the left-wing Five Star Movement, is keen to trigger an election later this year that it believes it could win outright.
The populist leader has made no secret of his desire for Italy to leave the eurozone one day. So the current political chaos in Italy and the prospect of a Lega majority government has deep significance for the wider EU — arguably much more significance than the current paroxysms around Brexit.
Why Italy matters
There's a famous line in the Shakespeare play Macbeth, when the mad Scottish king tells the rival he has been warned most about: "of all men else I have avoided thee."
That sums up precisely the way the eurozone's financial doyens have long since felt about Italy, even during the long night that was the Greek debt crisis in the early years of this decade. As bad as that was, nothing sends shivers down spines in Brussels quite like the thought of an Italian debt crisis.
The reason can be understood clearly enough by looking at the following graphic, which shows how much European banks beyond Italy's own shores are exposed to Italian debt, much of it government debt.
European banks' credit exposure to Italian debt EN
Most governments around the world owe a fortune. But the Italian debt pile would make most others blush. Italy owes $2.3 trillion (€2.06 trillion) in public debt. That's around 133% of its GDP — a massive ratio that puts it in the top five in the world.
While the majority of that stock of borrowing is weighing down banks in Rome and Milan, European banks are severely exposed in the event of anything going wrong. France is in the hole for a potential €285 billion according to a study by Bloomberg, while German, Spanish, British and Belgian banks also have cause for concern.
Although Italian government projections see the percentage of public debt as a percentage of GDP falling to 120% in the next decade, the OECD recently forecast that it would rise in that period due to sluggish growth rates, among other things.
Indeed, one looming conflict that adds extra spice to the mix is the prospect of the EU launching a disciplinary process against Rome for breaching EU rules on debt and budget deficits.
Doom loop
As the third-largest economy in the eurozone and one of the top 10 worldwide, the Italian economy will always have an influence on the wider European economy.
But given the extent to which European banks are tied to Italian debt levels, that link is much stronger that it otherwise might be.
Italy faces prospect of snap elections
During the years of the global financial crisis from 2007-2008, several banks collapsed. When major banks collapse, that has the potential to infect the entire financial system as the knock-on, contagion effect begins to affect other banks and other balance sheets.
One particularly devastating element of this is the so-called sovereign debt "doom loop." This is when banks and domestic governments are so intertwined that a country's indebtedness can lead to doubts over its ability to pay back its debts — in turn, leading to banking chaos.
Given the numbers at stake in Italy, it's easy to see why it turns so many people's blood cold.
Arrivederci euro, buongiorno mini-BOT?
But if Italian banks haven't collapsed yet, why should they ever collapse? After all, the whopping public debt in Italy is nothing new.
The simple answer is political. The prospect of Italy being governed by a party that has actively spoken of leaving the eurozone, and indeed the EU, has only increased since Lega and the Five Star Movement hammered out their initial pact just over a year ago.
The debate over mini-BOTs, however serious, feeds into this prospect. Riccardo Puglisi, an economist at the University of Pavia, told the Financial Times earlier this summer that the proposal was "a way to facilitate the exit of Italy from the eurozone."
THE GREEK DEBT CRISIS: A BRIEF HISTORY
Greek crisis takes form
On the heels of a global financial crisis, Greece's then-prime minister, George Papandreou, revealed in 2009 that the budget deficit was over 12 percent, double what it was previously thought. It was later revised to 15 percent, far exceeding the eurozone's 3-percent limit. The revelation prompted credit rating agencies to downgrade Greece's status, making it hard for Athens to get financial help.
Were Italy to try to leave the eurozone in the coming years, there could only ever be a disorderly departure, if such a departure were even possible. Although still very much an extreme, hypothetical scenario, a disorderly euro exit would increase the possibility of Italy defaulting on billions of euro debt.
From that rises the specter of what would be the largest default in economic history.
The consequences for Europe in an economic age already jolted by Brexit, the China-US trade war and indeed, the longer-term effects of the Greek debt crisis, hardly bear thinking about.
Yet the increasingly uncertain terrain of politics demands that we do.
Italy is literally run by a fascist.
Isn’t it weird how it’s always the Far Right who are always so Anti EU?
Farage
Salvini
Le Pen
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comment by GeniusGreaves (U1302)
posted 8 minutes ago
France’s economy is in a poor state, which is one of the reasons that Macron’s popularity is so low.
Italy are in a far worse state and potentially could become another Greece!
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And our economy is doing wonderfully right?
One quarter away from recession, kids eating out of bins, families living in shipping containers and disused office buildings, the DWP literally pushing people into prostitution (and that’s just the ones they haven’t killed)
Proud of your country? You’re gonna need to help me out here. 🤷🏾♂️
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comment by wearethefamousTHFC (U19211)
posted 2 minutes ago
comment by GeniusGreaves (U1302)
posted 7 minutes ago
France’s economy is in a poor state, which is one of the reasons that Macron’s popularity is so low.
Italy are in a far worse state and potentially could become another Greece!
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Speaking to a girl from Greece who was working at a restaurant and she told me in Greece she has to pay 45% tax >.........
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Because paying tax in Greece for years was seen as an optional extra, they are responsible for most of the mess they got themselves in.
comment by wearethefamousTHFC (U19211)
posted 3 minutes ago
comment by Automatic For The People (U21889)
posted 3 minutes ago
Italy is literally run by a fascist.
Isn’t it weird how it’s always the Far Right who are always so Anti EU?
Farage
Salvini
Le Pen
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so you want us to stay in for what reason
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You know my reasons.
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And our economy is doing wonderfully right?
One quarter away from recession, kids eating out of bins, families living in shipping containers and disused office buildings, the DWP literally pushing people into prostitution (and that’s just the ones they haven’t killed)
Proud of your country? You’re gonna need to help me out here. 🤷🏾♂️
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£5.5 billion of NEW investment this year alone, lowest unemployment in decades, highest number of people in employment since records began.
Your other claims regarding DWP are scandalous, where have they killed anyone? Proof? You will have none, just fear mongering as normal.
comment by wearethefamousTHFC (U19211)
posted 3 minutes ago
comment by Automatic For The People (U21889)
posted 1 minute ago
comment by GeniusGreaves (U1302)
posted 8 minutes ago
France’s economy is in a poor state, which is one of the reasons that Macron’s popularity is so low.
Italy are in a far worse state and potentially could become another Greece!
----------------------------------------------------------------------
And our economy is doing wonderfully right?
One quarter away from recession, kids eating out of bins, families living in shipping containers and disused office buildings, the DWP literally pushing people into prostitution (and that’s just the ones they haven’t killed)
Proud of your country? You’re gonna need to help me out here. 🤷🏾♂️
---well your never like the UK so someone has to-------------------------------------------------------------------
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I don’t do patriotism, it’s pointless and for idiots.
What’s patriotism ever achieved in the history of mankind?
Nothing.
France rightfully IMO used to buck the trend of work/life balance but is now struggling to adapt to a global economy where all the money is siphoned away by a tiny percentage of the population leaving everyone else fighting for the scraps (often having been convinced to argue among each other rather than going after the actual culprits).
Greece was the same, a lifestyle of opening your shop, earning enough cash (in hand) to close it for a week then rinse and repeat. It worked in isolation but didn't translate well to the modern economics of the west.
The Scandinavian countries probably have it best, a healthier work life balance but are also well placed in stability, economics, environmentalism, happiness, and health.
The UK is going the way of the US. Ravished by devastating inequality but the money is still there and the right people will always be safe in their ivory towers so on the surface these models can be framed as successful despite letting so many people down.
At last someone who is prepared to debate and put forward a rational argument.
Cheers Scruttocks
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posted on 23/8/19
comment by sandy (U20567)
posted 5 hours, 16 minutes ago
This is still one of the great countries to live in. But there is still a massive inequality between those that have and those that don`t.
Also a massive class division between large parts of the country. The difference between places like Barnsley and Westminster is absolutely immense.
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Glad you're sticking up for your country, Sandy - Good man! I suspect that the projected effects of Brexit on the NHS may be correct.
On the difference between Barnsley and Westminster, remember your history of football - how it all got started back in the 1860's. The working classes in places like Barnsley and Burnley and Birmingham couldn't compete with the big well-fed public school types at Rugby. So they developed a team sport called Association Football, whereby teamwork overcame brawn.
In the begining teams like the Old Etonians won it. But not for long! Ten years later it was Blackburn Rovers, Aston Villa, PNE, and WBA. All working class teams of lads, that 30 years later were getting slaughtered in the PALS battalions in the First World War.
posted on 23/8/19
comment by Automatic For The People (U21889)
posted 7 hours, 54 minutes ago
comment by GeniusGreaves (U1302)
posted 14 minutes ago
Corbyn destroyed the Conservative Majority and garnered 40 per cent of the vote. He also has the biggest mandate of any Leader currently leading their Party. So I think we will keep him thanks very much.
He is now on this third Tory Leader, about half a dozen Brexit Secretaries and about 100 UKIP Leaders. So I don`t think he is the one that cannot lead.
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He didn’t get elected though did he Sandy
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Neither did the Maybot, that’s why we have the appalling DUP propping up the Government.
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Agree, The awful DUP holding us all to ransom. Want to be part of the UK, but don't want the same laws. Joke party that don't represent the majority in Northern Ireland.
posted on 23/8/19
comment by GeniusGreaves (U1302)
posted 8 hours, 19 minutes ago
Did you actually listen to Boris during his meeting with Merkel?
They got on extremely well and Boris was almost statesman like
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Total waste of time Genius. GIving him 30 days, that others in three years have not been able solve. He looked a total clown up against Macron.
posted on 23/8/19
comment by thebluebellsarablue (U9292)
posted 7 hours, 47 minutes ago
comment by Automatic For The People (U21889)
posted 9 minutes ago
comment by thebluebellsarablue (U9292)
posted 2 minutes ago
comment by GeniusGreaves (U1302)
posted 18 minutes ago
Corbyn destroyed the Conservative Majority and garnered 40 per cent of the vote. He also has the biggest mandate of any Leader currently leading their Party. So I think we will keep him thanks very much.
He is now on this third Tory Leader, about half a dozen Brexit Secretaries and about 100 UKIP Leaders. So I don`t think he is the one that cannot lead.
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He didn’t get elected though did he Sandy
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GG.
Most Labour folk reject jezza now too and Tories are way ahead in polls.
Corbynista ruined working class support for Labour.
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The “working class” support have gone to The Brexit Party.
Good riddance to bad rubbish.
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Red flag flying high?
Not anymore lol
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The Tories are not way ahead in the polls. One Tory Rag put them ahead, and at the last election they were apparently well ahead, and then proceeding to lose over 30 seats to Labour. Learn not to believe the nonsense put out by the Tory media.
According to the media Labour are losing members, conveniently forgetting to say the membership quadrupled under Corbyn and is still close to half a million, which is still more than every other party combined.
The only mistake Corbyn made was not deselecting the MPs that tried to overthrow him, and are still sniping. They should have been replaced two or three years back, they are very little use to the Labour cause.
posted on 23/8/19
comment by GeniusGreaves (U1302)
posted 14 hours, 56 minutes ago
Who’s your type of PM?
Tommy Robinson?
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sizzle again assuming that anyone who disagrees with him is a right wing racist
Just to let you know I wouldn’t pee on Robinson if he was on fire
Sandy
You and everyone else knows Corbyn is just McDonnell and McCluskey’s puppet.
I wouldn’t mind betting that in the unlikely event Corbyn ever got elected, he would be replaced in less than a year
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No different to Johnson being a puppet of the hard right ERG and Farage.
posted on 23/8/19
Amazing this morning how not a mention on Sky of Johnson`s car crash of a meeting with Macron yesterday, when the day before they were all over the Johnson/Merkel meeting. Shows you how they skew the news in the favour of the Tories.
posted on 23/8/19
Always been the way Sandy.
Rupert Murdoch has run this country for decades.
posted on 23/8/19
comment by Automatic For The People (U21889)
posted 1 hour, 23 minutes ago
Always been the way Sandy.
Rupert Murdoch has run this country for decades.
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Absolutely. Disgusting how a few media barons can have such a stranglehold over the British media.
posted on 23/8/19
Macron has an approval rating of 22% in France. We can hardly wax lyrical about him.
posted on 23/8/19
France are not asking us to solve their problems either.
posted on 23/8/19
France’s economy is in a poor state, which is one of the reasons that Macron’s popularity is so low.
Italy are in a far worse state and potentially could become another Greece!
posted on 23/8/19
Debt and doom loops: The eurozone's Italian nightmare
Italy's president has begun talks with key players to end political turmoil in the eurozone's number three economy. But an anti-euro party could soon be running a country that owes European banks a fortune.
With new British Prime Minister Boris Johnson having apparently scheduled a no-deal Brexit for October 31 this year, Halloween is already shaping up to be more ghoulish than usual for the EU.
But there's an even more terrifying story spooking Eurocrats in 2019, and it comes from Italy.
Do you know what a mini-BOT is? It might sound like something from a robotic, dystopian future, but it's the informal name given to a prospective "parallel currency" that many in Matteo Salvini's right-wing Lega party are in favor of bringing into circulation in Italy.
The idea behind these prospective mini-BOTs (literally mini "bills of treasury" is that they could be issued in small denominations and used by the Italian government to pay off some of the mountain of debt it owes to commercial businesses and suppliers.
Whether the mini-BOTs ever come into circulation or not remains to be seen. But several Italian economists and analysts have said they could serve as a stepping stone on the way to an alternative currency in Italy if they do.
Matteo Salvini, leader of Lega and a prospective Italian prime minister, once described the euro as "a crime against humanity"
Salvini's party, until recently part of a rickety coalition with the left-wing Five Star Movement, is keen to trigger an election later this year that it believes it could win outright.
The populist leader has made no secret of his desire for Italy to leave the eurozone one day. So the current political chaos in Italy and the prospect of a Lega majority government has deep significance for the wider EU — arguably much more significance than the current paroxysms around Brexit.
Why Italy matters
There's a famous line in the Shakespeare play Macbeth, when the mad Scottish king tells the rival he has been warned most about: "of all men else I have avoided thee."
That sums up precisely the way the eurozone's financial doyens have long since felt about Italy, even during the long night that was the Greek debt crisis in the early years of this decade. As bad as that was, nothing sends shivers down spines in Brussels quite like the thought of an Italian debt crisis.
The reason can be understood clearly enough by looking at the following graphic, which shows how much European banks beyond Italy's own shores are exposed to Italian debt, much of it government debt.
European banks' credit exposure to Italian debt EN
Most governments around the world owe a fortune. But the Italian debt pile would make most others blush. Italy owes $2.3 trillion (€2.06 trillion) in public debt. That's around 133% of its GDP — a massive ratio that puts it in the top five in the world.
While the majority of that stock of borrowing is weighing down banks in Rome and Milan, European banks are severely exposed in the event of anything going wrong. France is in the hole for a potential €285 billion according to a study by Bloomberg, while German, Spanish, British and Belgian banks also have cause for concern.
Although Italian government projections see the percentage of public debt as a percentage of GDP falling to 120% in the next decade, the OECD recently forecast that it would rise in that period due to sluggish growth rates, among other things.
Indeed, one looming conflict that adds extra spice to the mix is the prospect of the EU launching a disciplinary process against Rome for breaching EU rules on debt and budget deficits.
Doom loop
As the third-largest economy in the eurozone and one of the top 10 worldwide, the Italian economy will always have an influence on the wider European economy.
But given the extent to which European banks are tied to Italian debt levels, that link is much stronger that it otherwise might be.
Italy faces prospect of snap elections
During the years of the global financial crisis from 2007-2008, several banks collapsed. When major banks collapse, that has the potential to infect the entire financial system as the knock-on, contagion effect begins to affect other banks and other balance sheets.
One particularly devastating element of this is the so-called sovereign debt "doom loop." This is when banks and domestic governments are so intertwined that a country's indebtedness can lead to doubts over its ability to pay back its debts — in turn, leading to banking chaos.
Given the numbers at stake in Italy, it's easy to see why it turns so many people's blood cold.
Arrivederci euro, buongiorno mini-BOT?
But if Italian banks haven't collapsed yet, why should they ever collapse? After all, the whopping public debt in Italy is nothing new.
The simple answer is political. The prospect of Italy being governed by a party that has actively spoken of leaving the eurozone, and indeed the EU, has only increased since Lega and the Five Star Movement hammered out their initial pact just over a year ago.
The debate over mini-BOTs, however serious, feeds into this prospect. Riccardo Puglisi, an economist at the University of Pavia, told the Financial Times earlier this summer that the proposal was "a way to facilitate the exit of Italy from the eurozone."
THE GREEK DEBT CRISIS: A BRIEF HISTORY
Greek crisis takes form
On the heels of a global financial crisis, Greece's then-prime minister, George Papandreou, revealed in 2009 that the budget deficit was over 12 percent, double what it was previously thought. It was later revised to 15 percent, far exceeding the eurozone's 3-percent limit. The revelation prompted credit rating agencies to downgrade Greece's status, making it hard for Athens to get financial help.
Were Italy to try to leave the eurozone in the coming years, there could only ever be a disorderly departure, if such a departure were even possible. Although still very much an extreme, hypothetical scenario, a disorderly euro exit would increase the possibility of Italy defaulting on billions of euro debt.
From that rises the specter of what would be the largest default in economic history.
The consequences for Europe in an economic age already jolted by Brexit, the China-US trade war and indeed, the longer-term effects of the Greek debt crisis, hardly bear thinking about.
Yet the increasingly uncertain terrain of politics demands that we do.
posted on 23/8/19
Italy is literally run by a fascist.
Isn’t it weird how it’s always the Far Right who are always so Anti EU?
Farage
Salvini
Le Pen
posted on 23/8/19
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posted on 23/8/19
comment by GeniusGreaves (U1302)
posted 8 minutes ago
France’s economy is in a poor state, which is one of the reasons that Macron’s popularity is so low.
Italy are in a far worse state and potentially could become another Greece!
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And our economy is doing wonderfully right?
One quarter away from recession, kids eating out of bins, families living in shipping containers and disused office buildings, the DWP literally pushing people into prostitution (and that’s just the ones they haven’t killed)
Proud of your country? You’re gonna need to help me out here. 🤷🏾♂️
posted on 23/8/19
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posted on 23/8/19
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posted on 23/8/19
comment by wearethefamousTHFC (U19211)
posted 2 minutes ago
comment by GeniusGreaves (U1302)
posted 7 minutes ago
France’s economy is in a poor state, which is one of the reasons that Macron’s popularity is so low.
Italy are in a far worse state and potentially could become another Greece!
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Speaking to a girl from Greece who was working at a restaurant and she told me in Greece she has to pay 45% tax >.........
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Because paying tax in Greece for years was seen as an optional extra, they are responsible for most of the mess they got themselves in.
posted on 23/8/19
comment by wearethefamousTHFC (U19211)
posted 3 minutes ago
comment by Automatic For The People (U21889)
posted 3 minutes ago
Italy is literally run by a fascist.
Isn’t it weird how it’s always the Far Right who are always so Anti EU?
Farage
Salvini
Le Pen
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so you want us to stay in for what reason
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You know my reasons.
posted on 23/8/19
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And our economy is doing wonderfully right?
One quarter away from recession, kids eating out of bins, families living in shipping containers and disused office buildings, the DWP literally pushing people into prostitution (and that’s just the ones they haven’t killed)
Proud of your country? You’re gonna need to help me out here. 🤷🏾♂️
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£5.5 billion of NEW investment this year alone, lowest unemployment in decades, highest number of people in employment since records began.
Your other claims regarding DWP are scandalous, where have they killed anyone? Proof? You will have none, just fear mongering as normal.
posted on 23/8/19
comment by wearethefamousTHFC (U19211)
posted 3 minutes ago
comment by Automatic For The People (U21889)
posted 1 minute ago
comment by GeniusGreaves (U1302)
posted 8 minutes ago
France’s economy is in a poor state, which is one of the reasons that Macron’s popularity is so low.
Italy are in a far worse state and potentially could become another Greece!
----------------------------------------------------------------------
And our economy is doing wonderfully right?
One quarter away from recession, kids eating out of bins, families living in shipping containers and disused office buildings, the DWP literally pushing people into prostitution (and that’s just the ones they haven’t killed)
Proud of your country? You’re gonna need to help me out here. 🤷🏾♂️
---well your never like the UK so someone has to-------------------------------------------------------------------
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I don’t do patriotism, it’s pointless and for idiots.
posted on 23/8/19
What’s patriotism ever achieved in the history of mankind?
Nothing.
posted on 23/8/19
France rightfully IMO used to buck the trend of work/life balance but is now struggling to adapt to a global economy where all the money is siphoned away by a tiny percentage of the population leaving everyone else fighting for the scraps (often having been convinced to argue among each other rather than going after the actual culprits).
Greece was the same, a lifestyle of opening your shop, earning enough cash (in hand) to close it for a week then rinse and repeat. It worked in isolation but didn't translate well to the modern economics of the west.
The Scandinavian countries probably have it best, a healthier work life balance but are also well placed in stability, economics, environmentalism, happiness, and health.
The UK is going the way of the US. Ravished by devastating inequality but the money is still there and the right people will always be safe in their ivory towers so on the surface these models can be framed as successful despite letting so many people down.
posted on 23/8/19
At last someone who is prepared to debate and put forward a rational argument.
Cheers Scruttocks
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