comment by Metro.⚽️ (U6770)
posted 11 seconds ago
comment by Winston (U16525)
posted 9 minutes ago
"It's not hard to find the examples. You'd have to bury your head not to have seen/read them."
Go on then.
Quotes, please.
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I've just provided the examples. Did you not see them or are you going to get all pedantic on me?
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No you didn't.
You're taking what has been said entirely out of context.
What those people have said is not evidence of Melanie's claim.
comment by Robbing Hoody - tell me I can't and I'll show you I can (U6374)
posted 9 minutes ago
I can find an example of a Tory fvcking a pig in the face.
It does work across the board that all Tories fvck pigs in the face (although it would not surprise me).
I wonder how some manage to dress themselves tbh.
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Hang on a moment ?
You're suggesting that when Melanie referred to the left she meant every single left leaning person?
I wonder how some manage to dress themselves tbh
Don't be a bloody idiot. It was clearly a general observation that the left has a tendancy to use race as a means of attack.
comment by Winston (U16525)
posted 11 minutes ago
comment by Kung Fu Cantona 🙏🏼 🇵🇸 (U18082)
posted 52 seconds ago
Let me put this one to bed so you can stop arguing.
Metro openly supports Tommy Robinson.
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Oh, really?
Then I have no problem understanding exactly what he is.
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Gotcha !!!!!!!!!!
The poetic irony of all this is that Melanie argued that the 'left' typically lean on racism as a means to slander their opponents - and how do the left leaning posters react on here...
"metro supports Tommy Robinson"
...I think my work here is done.
Metro.⚽️ (U6770)
You've got me?
Okay then kiddo, whatever helps you sleep.
Make no mistake - anyone who supports Tommy Robinson can quite easily be categorised.
comment by Metro.⚽️ (U6770)
posted 1 minute ago
comment by Winston (U16525)
posted 11 minutes ago
comment by Kung Fu Cantona 🙏🏼 🇵🇸 (U18082)
posted 52 seconds ago
Let me put this one to bed so you can stop arguing.
Metro openly supports Tommy Robinson.
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Oh, really?
Then I have no problem understanding exactly what he is.
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Gotcha !!!!!!!!!!
The poetic irony of all this is that Melanie argued that the 'left' typically lean on racism as a means to slander their opponents - and how do the left leaning posters react on here...
"metro supports Tommy Robinson"
...I think my work here is done.
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Mic drop
comment by Winston (U16525)
posted 59 seconds ago
Metro.⚽️ (U6770)
You've got me?
Okay then kiddo, whatever helps you sleep.
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Surely you of all people cannot be this daft
comment by Metro.⚽️ (U6770)
posted 10 minutes ago
comment by Robbing Hoody - tell me I can't and I'll show you I can (U6374)
posted 12 minutes ago
comment by Metro.⚽️ (U6770)
posted 4 minutes ago
comment by Robbing Hoody - tell me I can't and I'll show you I can (U6374)
posted 1 minute ago
It's full of hyperbolic rhetoric that is quite simply factually incorrect.
Saying "Of course, the term “racist” has now been evacuated of meaning, since it is now an empty smear hurled at anyone who falls foul of the left, or who has been associated in any way with anyone who has fallen foul of the left." is absolute fvcking nonsense whichever way you slice it.
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How is it nonsense?
Surely you agree that if a word is inappropriately used repeatedly then the result of which, is that the word itself starts to lose meaning. That's not a contentious claim.
You'd have to argue that the term racist is always appropriately applied - and that, to steal a phrase from you.. nonsense whichever way you slice it
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It's nonsense that "anyone who falls foul of the left" is smeared with the word racism.
Absolute bollox and personally I'd be ashamed to be associated with such a piece. It's laughable.
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Are you saying that the 'left' doesn't use race, gender and class as regular playing cards ?
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No more than the 'right' use racism, misogyny and pretentiousness no. It's a fvcking stupid thing to say and to act like youre on the end of some kibd of social injustice makes you look an absolute idiot tbh.
comment by Yoda's big brother Hulk (U1250)
posted 1 minute ago
comment by Winston (U16525)
posted 59 seconds ago
Metro.⚽️ (U6770)
You've got me?
Okay then kiddo, whatever helps you sleep.
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Surely you of all people cannot be this daft
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Eh?
Metro, do you support Tommy Robinson?
Yoda sticking up for a Tommy Robinson supporter, even Robb isn’t that thick.
Metro has run off because he can't back up his arguments.
If he's a Tommy Robinson supporter then to be honest, he's not worth engaging with anyway.
comment by Kung Fu Cantona 🙏🏼 🇵🇸 (U18082)
posted 3 hours, 42 minutes ago
comment by Elvis (U7425)
posted 8 hours, 49 minutes ago
How dare you suggest that some people from the middle east are savages Robb? You can't beat a good stoning.
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He didn’t say “some”
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A bunch/some. Same thing.
comment by Elvis (U7425)
posted 2 minutes ago
comment by Kung Fu Cantona 🙏🏼 🇵🇸 (U18082)
posted 3 hours, 42 minutes ago
comment by Elvis (U7425)
posted 8 hours, 49 minutes ago
How dare you suggest that some people from the middle east are savages Robb? You can't beat a good stoning.
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He didn’t say “some”
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A bunch/some. Same thing.
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It isn’t though is it. He never makes that distinction. He says they were savages before radicalisation and only specifies those in the Middle East.
I don’t think you’ve found a way to explain why he calls Japanese people LESS SAVAGE or did he say ‘some’ are less savage?
comment by Kung Fu Cantona 🙏🏼 🇵🇸 (U18082)
posted 15 minutes ago
Yoda sticking up for a Tommy Robinson supporter, even Robb isn’t that thick.
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Eh?
You need to switch off the PC and stop twisting shiiiit around
comment by Kung Fu Cantona 🙏🏼 🇵🇸 (U18082)
posted 3 hours, 38 minutes ago
comment by Elvis (U7425)
posted 8 hours, 42 minutes ago
comment by Robb - Steve Smith = Legend 🏏🏆 (U21234)
posted 51 seconds ago
comment by Elvis (U7425)
posted 2 minutes ago
How dare you suggest that some people from the middle east are savages Robb? You can't beat a good stoning.
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Sigh. 😂 you’ll be called a racist now
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Pretty sure he's called me racist before. Can't remember if it was him or someone else that said I was half radicalised following a discussion on the Muslim/Pakistani rape gangs.
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Pretty sure?? I either did or I didn’t.
You created an article on false data, the people behind it even left a warning that the study was unfinished. I Highlighted that it was interesting that you chose the part about 86% of grooming gangs being of Pakistani heritage when the same study concluded that 100% of Internet pedos are white.
It must be a subconscious thing with you, Robb and Yoda. Maybe you can’t help it.
I also asked why you classified these people as Muslim when they’ve never professed to follow any religion? Unless you consider drinking, drug abuse, premarital secx and rape as proof of a practising Muslim?
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I can't remember if it was you or someone another poster. So yes, you either did or you didn't. But I don't know which it was.
The data wasn't false. We went through this several times.
As I mentioned many times, I talked about the grooming gangs, as they were categorised as not being proper peados, but rather people that took advantage of vulnerable people. Therefore they are not the same as the white online predators, that are much harder to identify and who cannot be easily reached educated out of carrying out these terrible crimes. Again, I have explained this many times.
As for classifying these people as Muslims, they are classified this way because that it what they identified themselves as. I accept that it isn't your idea of what it is to be a Muslim, but that is how they identify themselves. Some of them even telling their victims that they deserve to be treated in such a manner because they are not Muslim. So as much as you try to distance this issue from the religion, there is some involvement. Which is evidenced by the 500 or so imams giving a service on the same day to deplore the grooming gangs.
comment by CurrentlyInChina (U11181)
posted 4 hours, 59 minutes ago
Metro, do you support Tommy Robinson?
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No. I made a point some months ago about the swiftness of justice that he was met with and the infantile response was that I must be a supporter and therefore a racist.
comment by Robbing Hoody - tell me I can't and I'll show you I can (U6374)
posted 5 hours, 14 minutes ago
comment by Metro.⚽️ (U6770)
posted 10 minutes ago
comment by Robbing Hoody - tell me I can't and I'll show you I can (U6374)
posted 12 minutes ago
comment by Metro.⚽️ (U6770)
posted 4 minutes ago
comment by Robbing Hoody - tell me I can't and I'll show you I can (U6374)
posted 1 minute ago
It's full of hyperbolic rhetoric that is quite simply factually incorrect.
Saying "Of course, the term “racist” has now been evacuated of meaning, since it is now an empty smear hurled at anyone who falls foul of the left, or who has been associated in any way with anyone who has fallen foul of the left." is absolute fvcking nonsense whichever way you slice it.
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How is it nonsense?
Surely you agree that if a word is inappropriately used repeatedly then the result of which, is that the word itself starts to lose meaning. That's not a contentious claim.
You'd have to argue that the term racist is always appropriately applied - and that, to steal a phrase from you.. nonsense whichever way you slice it
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It's nonsense that "anyone who falls foul of the left" is smeared with the word racism.
Absolute bollox and personally I'd be ashamed to be associated with such a piece. It's laughable.
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Are you saying that the 'left' doesn't use race, gender and class as regular playing cards ?
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No more than the 'right' use racism, misogyny and pretentiousness no. It's a fvcking stupid thing to say and to act like youre on the end of some kibd of social injustice makes you look an absolute idiot tbh.
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No that’s not the case. The general consensus of the right is that we place emphasis on the responsibility of the individual and the importance of their character.
The left clearly think more along the lines of group identity - notably race, gender, religion etc.
We don’t all fit into such categories of course. There’s clearly cross over in both camps but by and large it’s true.
Lastly - I don’t think I’m acting like ‘i’m on the end of social injustice’. I just happen to believe that anyone who cries racist against those who criticised the Duchess on her choices for trailblazing women ought to be ashamed. Firstly for their stupidity and secondly, for it’s total disregard for those who are on the end of actual racism. They rob the word of it’s true meaning and ultimately it’s power.
comment by Winston (U16525)
posted 5 hours, 12 minutes ago
Metro has run off because he can't back up his arguments.
If he's a Tommy Robinson supporter then to be honest, he's not worth engaging with anyway.
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I’ve backed up everything I’ve said with sound reasoning.
It’s your inability to comprehend said reason that’s got you up in arms.
comment by Metro.⚽️ (U6770)
posted 20 minutes ago
comment by Winston (U16525)
posted 5 hours, 12 minutes ago
Metro has run off because he can't back up his arguments.
If he's a Tommy Robinson supporter then to be honest, he's not worth engaging with anyway.
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I’ve backed up everything I’ve said with sound reasoning.
It’s your inability to comprehend said reason that’s got you up in arms.
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Nope.
You’ve accused people of saying things they haven’t said and you’ve agreed with a woman who has made things up to suit her own agenda.
Slow hand clap.
If this isn't supporting What Robinson is saying I don't know what is. Oh and he decided to do it on a thread about the 40+ Muslims gunned down in New Zealand.
I imagine if you replace the name Tommy Robinson with Abu Hamza and I'd said these things it would have been totally ok.
1)
comment by Ruiney (U1005)
posted 1 minute ago
comment by Metro.⚽️ (U6770)
posted 1 minute ago
comment by Ruiney (U1005)
posted 6 minutes ago
I’ve got at least 5 people on my Facebook, people I went to school with who happily share Tommy Robinson BS. It’s becoming a huge problem.
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What does Tommy Robinson have to do with all this?
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He’s a poster boy for racist be11ends. That’s what.
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There’s no way to express concern about culture without attracting such attention. But surely that doesn’t mean we don’t raise them?
Sam Harris and the late great Christopher Hitchens have spoken about this for years. They will take away your right to complain.
2)
comment by San Miguel (U1449)
posted 1 minute ago
comment by Metro.⚽️ (U6770)
posted 3 minutes ago
comment by Ruiney (U1005)
posted 6 minutes ago
I’ve got at least 5 people on my Facebook, people I went to school with who happily share Tommy Robinson BS. It’s becoming a huge problem.
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What does Tommy Robinson have to do with all this?
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As I posted earlier, he has a lot of supporters in the increasingly prevalent right wing groups in New Zealand
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He has millions of supporters most of whom feel Islam isn’t wholly compatible with a progressive west.
Surely that’s not a controversial view.
3)
comment by The Welsh Xavi (U15412)
posted 45 seconds ago
Tommy Robinson might not have anything to do with this particular incident no, but he's part of a large problem of demonising certain groups of people and spreading propoganda aimed to make you angry and cause hate and division.
The attacker today literally said in his own manifesto that he wants a race war between Europeans and Muslims, and he repeated a lot of anti Muslim propoganda that you often see shared on social media.
It's not that much of a stretch to see why people like Robinson are being mentioned.
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I think it’s preposterous to be honest.
People must be able to express anti-Islamic sentiments and criticise religions and cultures without being blamed for the worlds atrocities.
Hitchens would be spinning in his grave at all this.
Forget the terrorists themselves - just blame those who denounce those who champion second class rights of females right?
4)
Do you think we should do anything to stop the spread of islamic extremism in the UK then? Or is radicalisation just free speech and it should be encouraged?
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I'm pretty sure there are agencies constantly working on exactly what you have said there.
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They don’t seem to be doing a very good job do they.
I take the Sam Harris view that something like Islam is better defeated by discourse in media and in public spheres.
At the moment, it’s in a protective bubble with no room for any progressive discourse.
It’s not scapegoating. It’s a sign of the times. For example, Roman Catholics was more dangerous in the 30s for its open alliance with fascism and antisemitism.
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So out of the people he's mentioned in his writings....
Tommy Robinson:
“Every single Muslim watching this... on 7/7 you got away with killing and maiming British citizens... you had better understand that we have built a network from one end of the country to the other end... and the Islamic community will feel the full force of the English Defence League if we see any of our British citizens killed, maimed, or hurt on British soil ever again.”
Sam Harris:
"It is time we admitted that we are not at war with 'terrorism.' We are at war with Islam."
Melanie Philips:
"Islamophobia is a fiction to shut down debate"
Can anybody see a pattern emerging?
comment by Winston (U16525)
posted 17 minutes ago
comment by Metro.⚽️ (U6770)
posted 20 minutes ago
comment by Winston (U16525)
posted 5 hours, 12 minutes ago
Metro has run off because he can't back up his arguments.
If he's a Tommy Robinson supporter then to be honest, he's not worth engaging with anyway.
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I’ve backed up everything I’ve said with sound reasoning.
It’s your inability to comprehend said reason that’s got you up in arms.
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Nope.
You’ve accused people of saying things they haven’t said and you’ve agreed with a woman who has made things up to suit her own agenda.
Slow hand clap.
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I said that they’d use racism as a means to defend the Duchess.
Jessica Mulroney "When that person is your friend and your family, you call those critics what they truly are. Shame on you, you racist bullies."
Jameela Jamil “Ugh. Dear England and English press, just say you hate her because she’s black, and him for marrying a black woman and be done with it God dammit“
Priyanka Chopra “Of course it has to do with racism, it's an obvious reason”
I guess I’ve taken those 3 quotes out of context... right?
No hand claps for you.
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posted on 23/8/19
comment by Metro.⚽️ (U6770)
posted 11 seconds ago
comment by Winston (U16525)
posted 9 minutes ago
"It's not hard to find the examples. You'd have to bury your head not to have seen/read them."
Go on then.
Quotes, please.
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I've just provided the examples. Did you not see them or are you going to get all pedantic on me?
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No you didn't.
You're taking what has been said entirely out of context.
What those people have said is not evidence of Melanie's claim.
posted on 23/8/19
comment by Robbing Hoody - tell me I can't and I'll show you I can (U6374)
posted 9 minutes ago
I can find an example of a Tory fvcking a pig in the face.
It does work across the board that all Tories fvck pigs in the face (although it would not surprise me).
I wonder how some manage to dress themselves tbh.
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Hang on a moment ?
You're suggesting that when Melanie referred to the left she meant every single left leaning person?
I wonder how some manage to dress themselves tbh
Don't be a bloody idiot. It was clearly a general observation that the left has a tendancy to use race as a means of attack.
posted on 23/8/19
comment by Winston (U16525)
posted 11 minutes ago
comment by Kung Fu Cantona 🙏🏼 🇵🇸 (U18082)
posted 52 seconds ago
Let me put this one to bed so you can stop arguing.
Metro openly supports Tommy Robinson.
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Oh, really?
Then I have no problem understanding exactly what he is.
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Gotcha !!!!!!!!!!
The poetic irony of all this is that Melanie argued that the 'left' typically lean on racism as a means to slander their opponents - and how do the left leaning posters react on here...
"metro supports Tommy Robinson"
...I think my work here is done.
posted on 23/8/19
Metro.⚽️ (U6770)
You've got me?
Okay then kiddo, whatever helps you sleep.
posted on 23/8/19
Make no mistake - anyone who supports Tommy Robinson can quite easily be categorised.
posted on 23/8/19
comment by Metro.⚽️ (U6770)
posted 1 minute ago
comment by Winston (U16525)
posted 11 minutes ago
comment by Kung Fu Cantona 🙏🏼 🇵🇸 (U18082)
posted 52 seconds ago
Let me put this one to bed so you can stop arguing.
Metro openly supports Tommy Robinson.
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Oh, really?
Then I have no problem understanding exactly what he is.
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Gotcha !!!!!!!!!!
The poetic irony of all this is that Melanie argued that the 'left' typically lean on racism as a means to slander their opponents - and how do the left leaning posters react on here...
"metro supports Tommy Robinson"
...I think my work here is done.
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Mic drop
posted on 23/8/19
comment by Winston (U16525)
posted 59 seconds ago
Metro.⚽️ (U6770)
You've got me?
Okay then kiddo, whatever helps you sleep.
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Surely you of all people cannot be this daft
posted on 23/8/19
comment by Metro.⚽️ (U6770)
posted 10 minutes ago
comment by Robbing Hoody - tell me I can't and I'll show you I can (U6374)
posted 12 minutes ago
comment by Metro.⚽️ (U6770)
posted 4 minutes ago
comment by Robbing Hoody - tell me I can't and I'll show you I can (U6374)
posted 1 minute ago
It's full of hyperbolic rhetoric that is quite simply factually incorrect.
Saying "Of course, the term “racist” has now been evacuated of meaning, since it is now an empty smear hurled at anyone who falls foul of the left, or who has been associated in any way with anyone who has fallen foul of the left." is absolute fvcking nonsense whichever way you slice it.
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How is it nonsense?
Surely you agree that if a word is inappropriately used repeatedly then the result of which, is that the word itself starts to lose meaning. That's not a contentious claim.
You'd have to argue that the term racist is always appropriately applied - and that, to steal a phrase from you.. nonsense whichever way you slice it
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It's nonsense that "anyone who falls foul of the left" is smeared with the word racism.
Absolute bollox and personally I'd be ashamed to be associated with such a piece. It's laughable.
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Are you saying that the 'left' doesn't use race, gender and class as regular playing cards ?
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No more than the 'right' use racism, misogyny and pretentiousness no. It's a fvcking stupid thing to say and to act like youre on the end of some kibd of social injustice makes you look an absolute idiot tbh.
posted on 23/8/19
comment by Yoda's big brother Hulk (U1250)
posted 1 minute ago
comment by Winston (U16525)
posted 59 seconds ago
Metro.⚽️ (U6770)
You've got me?
Okay then kiddo, whatever helps you sleep.
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Surely you of all people cannot be this daft
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Eh?
posted on 23/8/19
Metro, do you support Tommy Robinson?
posted on 23/8/19
Yoda sticking up for a Tommy Robinson supporter, even Robb isn’t that thick.
posted on 23/8/19
Metro has run off because he can't back up his arguments.
If he's a Tommy Robinson supporter then to be honest, he's not worth engaging with anyway.
posted on 23/8/19
comment by Kung Fu Cantona 🙏🏼 🇵🇸 (U18082)
posted 3 hours, 42 minutes ago
comment by Elvis (U7425)
posted 8 hours, 49 minutes ago
How dare you suggest that some people from the middle east are savages Robb? You can't beat a good stoning.
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He didn’t say “some”
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A bunch/some. Same thing.
posted on 23/8/19
comment by Elvis (U7425)
posted 2 minutes ago
comment by Kung Fu Cantona 🙏🏼 🇵🇸 (U18082)
posted 3 hours, 42 minutes ago
comment by Elvis (U7425)
posted 8 hours, 49 minutes ago
How dare you suggest that some people from the middle east are savages Robb? You can't beat a good stoning.
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He didn’t say “some”
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A bunch/some. Same thing.
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It isn’t though is it. He never makes that distinction. He says they were savages before radicalisation and only specifies those in the Middle East.
I don’t think you’ve found a way to explain why he calls Japanese people LESS SAVAGE or did he say ‘some’ are less savage?
posted on 23/8/19
21*
posted on 23/8/19
wrong thread...
posted on 23/8/19
comment by Kung Fu Cantona 🙏🏼 🇵🇸 (U18082)
posted 15 minutes ago
Yoda sticking up for a Tommy Robinson supporter, even Robb isn’t that thick.
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Eh?
You need to switch off the PC and stop twisting shiiiit around
posted on 23/8/19
comment by Kung Fu Cantona 🙏🏼 🇵🇸 (U18082)
posted 3 hours, 38 minutes ago
comment by Elvis (U7425)
posted 8 hours, 42 minutes ago
comment by Robb - Steve Smith = Legend 🏏🏆 (U21234)
posted 51 seconds ago
comment by Elvis (U7425)
posted 2 minutes ago
How dare you suggest that some people from the middle east are savages Robb? You can't beat a good stoning.
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Sigh. 😂 you’ll be called a racist now
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Pretty sure he's called me racist before. Can't remember if it was him or someone else that said I was half radicalised following a discussion on the Muslim/Pakistani rape gangs.
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Pretty sure?? I either did or I didn’t.
You created an article on false data, the people behind it even left a warning that the study was unfinished. I Highlighted that it was interesting that you chose the part about 86% of grooming gangs being of Pakistani heritage when the same study concluded that 100% of Internet pedos are white.
It must be a subconscious thing with you, Robb and Yoda. Maybe you can’t help it.
I also asked why you classified these people as Muslim when they’ve never professed to follow any religion? Unless you consider drinking, drug abuse, premarital secx and rape as proof of a practising Muslim?
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I can't remember if it was you or someone another poster. So yes, you either did or you didn't. But I don't know which it was.
The data wasn't false. We went through this several times.
As I mentioned many times, I talked about the grooming gangs, as they were categorised as not being proper peados, but rather people that took advantage of vulnerable people. Therefore they are not the same as the white online predators, that are much harder to identify and who cannot be easily reached educated out of carrying out these terrible crimes. Again, I have explained this many times.
As for classifying these people as Muslims, they are classified this way because that it what they identified themselves as. I accept that it isn't your idea of what it is to be a Muslim, but that is how they identify themselves. Some of them even telling their victims that they deserve to be treated in such a manner because they are not Muslim. So as much as you try to distance this issue from the religion, there is some involvement. Which is evidenced by the 500 or so imams giving a service on the same day to deplore the grooming gangs.
posted on 23/8/19
Let’s go round again
posted on 23/8/19
comment by CurrentlyInChina (U11181)
posted 4 hours, 59 minutes ago
Metro, do you support Tommy Robinson?
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No. I made a point some months ago about the swiftness of justice that he was met with and the infantile response was that I must be a supporter and therefore a racist.
posted on 23/8/19
comment by Robbing Hoody - tell me I can't and I'll show you I can (U6374)
posted 5 hours, 14 minutes ago
comment by Metro.⚽️ (U6770)
posted 10 minutes ago
comment by Robbing Hoody - tell me I can't and I'll show you I can (U6374)
posted 12 minutes ago
comment by Metro.⚽️ (U6770)
posted 4 minutes ago
comment by Robbing Hoody - tell me I can't and I'll show you I can (U6374)
posted 1 minute ago
It's full of hyperbolic rhetoric that is quite simply factually incorrect.
Saying "Of course, the term “racist” has now been evacuated of meaning, since it is now an empty smear hurled at anyone who falls foul of the left, or who has been associated in any way with anyone who has fallen foul of the left." is absolute fvcking nonsense whichever way you slice it.
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How is it nonsense?
Surely you agree that if a word is inappropriately used repeatedly then the result of which, is that the word itself starts to lose meaning. That's not a contentious claim.
You'd have to argue that the term racist is always appropriately applied - and that, to steal a phrase from you.. nonsense whichever way you slice it
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It's nonsense that "anyone who falls foul of the left" is smeared with the word racism.
Absolute bollox and personally I'd be ashamed to be associated with such a piece. It's laughable.
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Are you saying that the 'left' doesn't use race, gender and class as regular playing cards ?
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No more than the 'right' use racism, misogyny and pretentiousness no. It's a fvcking stupid thing to say and to act like youre on the end of some kibd of social injustice makes you look an absolute idiot tbh.
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No that’s not the case. The general consensus of the right is that we place emphasis on the responsibility of the individual and the importance of their character.
The left clearly think more along the lines of group identity - notably race, gender, religion etc.
We don’t all fit into such categories of course. There’s clearly cross over in both camps but by and large it’s true.
Lastly - I don’t think I’m acting like ‘i’m on the end of social injustice’. I just happen to believe that anyone who cries racist against those who criticised the Duchess on her choices for trailblazing women ought to be ashamed. Firstly for their stupidity and secondly, for it’s total disregard for those who are on the end of actual racism. They rob the word of it’s true meaning and ultimately it’s power.
posted on 23/8/19
comment by Winston (U16525)
posted 5 hours, 12 minutes ago
Metro has run off because he can't back up his arguments.
If he's a Tommy Robinson supporter then to be honest, he's not worth engaging with anyway.
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I’ve backed up everything I’ve said with sound reasoning.
It’s your inability to comprehend said reason that’s got you up in arms.
posted on 23/8/19
comment by Metro.⚽️ (U6770)
posted 20 minutes ago
comment by Winston (U16525)
posted 5 hours, 12 minutes ago
Metro has run off because he can't back up his arguments.
If he's a Tommy Robinson supporter then to be honest, he's not worth engaging with anyway.
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I’ve backed up everything I’ve said with sound reasoning.
It’s your inability to comprehend said reason that’s got you up in arms.
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Nope.
You’ve accused people of saying things they haven’t said and you’ve agreed with a woman who has made things up to suit her own agenda.
Slow hand clap.
posted on 23/8/19
If this isn't supporting What Robinson is saying I don't know what is. Oh and he decided to do it on a thread about the 40+ Muslims gunned down in New Zealand.
I imagine if you replace the name Tommy Robinson with Abu Hamza and I'd said these things it would have been totally ok.
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comment by Ruiney (U1005)
posted 1 minute ago
comment by Metro.⚽️ (U6770)
posted 1 minute ago
comment by Ruiney (U1005)
posted 6 minutes ago
I’ve got at least 5 people on my Facebook, people I went to school with who happily share Tommy Robinson BS. It’s becoming a huge problem.
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What does Tommy Robinson have to do with all this?
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He’s a poster boy for racist be11ends. That’s what.
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There’s no way to express concern about culture without attracting such attention. But surely that doesn’t mean we don’t raise them?
Sam Harris and the late great Christopher Hitchens have spoken about this for years. They will take away your right to complain.
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comment by San Miguel (U1449)
posted 1 minute ago
comment by Metro.⚽️ (U6770)
posted 3 minutes ago
comment by Ruiney (U1005)
posted 6 minutes ago
I’ve got at least 5 people on my Facebook, people I went to school with who happily share Tommy Robinson BS. It’s becoming a huge problem.
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What does Tommy Robinson have to do with all this?
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As I posted earlier, he has a lot of supporters in the increasingly prevalent right wing groups in New Zealand
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He has millions of supporters most of whom feel Islam isn’t wholly compatible with a progressive west.
Surely that’s not a controversial view.
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comment by The Welsh Xavi (U15412)
posted 45 seconds ago
Tommy Robinson might not have anything to do with this particular incident no, but he's part of a large problem of demonising certain groups of people and spreading propoganda aimed to make you angry and cause hate and division.
The attacker today literally said in his own manifesto that he wants a race war between Europeans and Muslims, and he repeated a lot of anti Muslim propoganda that you often see shared on social media.
It's not that much of a stretch to see why people like Robinson are being mentioned.
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I think it’s preposterous to be honest.
People must be able to express anti-Islamic sentiments and criticise religions and cultures without being blamed for the worlds atrocities.
Hitchens would be spinning in his grave at all this.
Forget the terrorists themselves - just blame those who denounce those who champion second class rights of females right?
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Do you think we should do anything to stop the spread of islamic extremism in the UK then? Or is radicalisation just free speech and it should be encouraged?
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I'm pretty sure there are agencies constantly working on exactly what you have said there.
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They don’t seem to be doing a very good job do they.
I take the Sam Harris view that something like Islam is better defeated by discourse in media and in public spheres.
At the moment, it’s in a protective bubble with no room for any progressive discourse.
It’s not scapegoating. It’s a sign of the times. For example, Roman Catholics was more dangerous in the 30s for its open alliance with fascism and antisemitism.
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So out of the people he's mentioned in his writings....
Tommy Robinson:
“Every single Muslim watching this... on 7/7 you got away with killing and maiming British citizens... you had better understand that we have built a network from one end of the country to the other end... and the Islamic community will feel the full force of the English Defence League if we see any of our British citizens killed, maimed, or hurt on British soil ever again.”
Sam Harris:
"It is time we admitted that we are not at war with 'terrorism.' We are at war with Islam."
Melanie Philips:
"Islamophobia is a fiction to shut down debate"
Can anybody see a pattern emerging?
posted on 23/8/19
comment by Winston (U16525)
posted 17 minutes ago
comment by Metro.⚽️ (U6770)
posted 20 minutes ago
comment by Winston (U16525)
posted 5 hours, 12 minutes ago
Metro has run off because he can't back up his arguments.
If he's a Tommy Robinson supporter then to be honest, he's not worth engaging with anyway.
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I’ve backed up everything I’ve said with sound reasoning.
It’s your inability to comprehend said reason that’s got you up in arms.
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Nope.
You’ve accused people of saying things they haven’t said and you’ve agreed with a woman who has made things up to suit her own agenda.
Slow hand clap.
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I said that they’d use racism as a means to defend the Duchess.
Jessica Mulroney "When that person is your friend and your family, you call those critics what they truly are. Shame on you, you racist bullies."
Jameela Jamil “Ugh. Dear England and English press, just say you hate her because she’s black, and him for marrying a black woman and be done with it God dammit“
Priyanka Chopra “Of course it has to do with racism, it's an obvious reason”
I guess I’ve taken those 3 quotes out of context... right?
No hand claps for you.
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