won the CL if Dembele could finish.
this aggravates me, so all the shots we missed in the first leg dont count, but dembeles does, sounds fair.
Van Dijk bottled the league. Bottled the league cup. Bottled the FA cup and topped it off by bottling the nation's league. Getting destroyed in the final by a bunch of Wolves players. Just lucky to have been playing the worst side to have ever reached a CL final. Even then he needed a dodgy penalty.
If anything he should be punished. Not rewarded.
Messi scored 51 goals in 50 games. Of course he deserves to win it
sted 1 hour, 47 minutes ago
big one I mean PL
And why would you laugh at John Terry who most consider the best CB of the Pl era? bit odd.
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Terry was a donkey. He looked OK playing in Jose’s dull as ditchwater defensive team but he was very limited on the ball and turned slower than an oil tanker.
Also a disgusting personality.
VVD for me best defender in the world
comment by Finlay Robertson (U1734)
posted 26 minutes ago
Has to be Robertson for me. Played a big part in winning the CL. As well as being part of the best back four in the world. He also played a big part in an incredible title challenge. About time a left back won it.
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I'd be okay with it
comment by Aggers Right Elbow (U3402)
posted 1 hour, 15 minutes ago
sted 1 hour, 47 minutes ago
big one I mean PL
And why would you laugh at John Terry who most consider the best CB of the Pl era? bit odd.
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Terry was a donkey. He looked OK playing in Jose’s dull as ditchwater defensive team but he was very limited on the ball and turned slower than an oil tanker.
Also a disgusting personality.
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comment by Finlay Robertson (U1734)
posted 1 hour, 19 minutes ago
Van Dijk bottled the league. Bottled the league cup. Bottled the FA cup and topped it off by bottling the nation's league. Getting destroyed in the final by a bunch of Wolves players. Just lucky to have been playing the worst side to have ever reached a CL final. Even then he needed a dodgy penalty.
If anything he should be punished. Not rewarded.
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Compelling argument.
comment by Aggers Right Elbow (U3402)
posted 1 hour, 16 minutes ago
sted 1 hour, 47 minutes ago
big one I mean PL
And why would you laugh at John Terry who most consider the best CB of the Pl era? bit odd.
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Terry was a donkey. He looked OK playing in Jose’s dull as ditchwater defensive team but he was very limited on the ball and turned slower than an oil tanker.
Also a disgusting personality.
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He was a very good passer of the ball. Ive nit net him but he's done some pretty shabby stuff but as a baller he was quality.
Stripping off to full kit wanchor for the photos was cringe as fvck too.
Set trends don't follow them. Terry
Expect him to win it
Would still say messi should though but think it depends what criteria you look at
This pass by Terry
https://twitter.com/ChelseaChadder/status/1085476936963551233
The biggest difference is people just expect it from Messi because he's the best player in the world.
The award is for the best player in the world. Is VVD better than Messi?
If Sissoko scored a hattrick in the Champions League final and Spurs won the competition, would that make him the best player in the world? Can't just judge players on a single game.
comment by Nickasaurus (U9257)
posted 4 hours, 4 minutes ago
Having said that, and he's been impressive. I just can't look past messi for Ballon d'or.
36 goals and 13 assists in 29 starts last season in a crap barca teamguys a joke.
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you would think he played for stoke ffs.
comment by Pride of the North (U6803)
posted 1 hour, 56 minutes ago
The biggest difference is people just expect it from Messi because he's the best player in the world.
The award is for the best player in the world. Is VVD better than Messi?
If Sissoko scored a hattrick in the Champions League final and Spurs won the competition, would that make him the best player in the world? Can't just judge players on a single game.
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no because sissoko isn't very good
comment by montleeds (U18330)
posted 1 hour, 20 minutes ago
comment by Nickasaurus (U9257)
posted 4 hours, 4 minutes ago
Having said that, and he's been impressive. I just can't look past messi for Ballon d'or.
36 goals and 13 assists in 29 starts last season in a crap barca teamguys a joke.
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you would think he played for stoke ffs.
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Why?
comment by Adam 'The interview' Lallana (U20650)
posted 1 minute ago
comment by Pride of the North (U6803)
posted 1 hour, 56 minutes ago
The biggest difference is people just expect it from Messi because he's the best player in the world.
The award is for the best player in the world. Is VVD better than Messi?
If Sissoko scored a hattrick in the Champions League final and Spurs won the competition, would that make him the best player in the world? Can't just judge players on a single game.
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no because sissoko isn't very good
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and VVD isn't as good as Messi
at attacking? correct
as defending? no
Liverpool's attackers built them up a massive lead over city. All they needed was for their defenders to defend that lead. Over to you Van Dijk....
comment by Adam 'The interview' Lallana (U20650)
posted 23 minutes ago
at attacking? correct
as defending? no
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That's not what I said above is it
comment by Pride of the North (U6803)
posted 40 minutes ago
comment by Adam 'The interview' Lallana (U20650)
posted 1 minute ago
comment by Pride of the North (U6803)
posted 1 hour, 56 minutes ago
The biggest difference is people just expect it from Messi because he's the best player in the world.
The award is for the best player in the world. Is VVD better than Messi?
If Sissoko scored a hattrick in the Champions League final and Spurs won the competition, would that make him the best player in the world? Can't just judge players on a single game.
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no because sissoko isn't very good
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and VVD isn't as good as Messi
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Moot point.
Balon D'or isn't decided upon by who you the voters think is the better player
comment by Finlay Robertson (U1734)
posted 6 hours, 33 minutes ago
Maguire was better for a weaker side at Leicester. Now bossing it at the biggest club in the world. The most expensive centre back in the world for good reason. Price tags don't lie. Van Dijk not far behind though.
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He should win it.
For a defender to play against the likes of Hazard, Aguero, Sterling, Mbappe, Neymar, Lewandowski, Suarez and Messi and not be taken on once is a stat that is unheard of.
Capped off that miracle stay with a Champions League win.
VVD
Would be a great achievement for a defender to win this, and definitively because he is Dutch.
comment by Pride of the North (U6803)
posted 1 hour, 31 minutes ago
comment by Adam 'The interview' Lallana (U20650)
posted 1 minute ago
comment by Pride of the North (U6803)
posted 1 hour, 56 minutes ago
The biggest difference is people just expect it from Messi because he's the best player in the world.
The award is for the best player in the world. Is VVD better than Messi?
If Sissoko scored a hattrick in the Champions League final and Spurs won the competition, would that make him the best player in the world? Can't just judge players on a single game.
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no because sissoko isn't very good
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and VVD isn't as good as Messi
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At scoring goals no but I know who I'd rather have in defence. Goalscorers always get the accolades for obvious reasons as goals win games.
Pool beat Barca and went onto win the biggest trophy in European club football, and would barca miss Messi as much as the current CL champions would miss VD?
Another way to look at it is if Messi joined Liverpool and not VD would they have been better placed to win the CL? I'd say no. That signifies the scale of how well that one signing has done and I'd fsure no one would begrudge him beating CR or Messi to the prize
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posted on 6/9/19
won the CL if Dembele could finish.
this aggravates me, so all the shots we missed in the first leg dont count, but dembeles does, sounds fair.
posted on 6/9/19
Van Dijk bottled the league. Bottled the league cup. Bottled the FA cup and topped it off by bottling the nation's league. Getting destroyed in the final by a bunch of Wolves players. Just lucky to have been playing the worst side to have ever reached a CL final. Even then he needed a dodgy penalty.
If anything he should be punished. Not rewarded.
posted on 6/9/19
Messi scored 51 goals in 50 games. Of course he deserves to win it
posted on 6/9/19
sted 1 hour, 47 minutes ago
big one I mean PL
And why would you laugh at John Terry who most consider the best CB of the Pl era? bit odd.
———-
Terry was a donkey. He looked OK playing in Jose’s dull as ditchwater defensive team but he was very limited on the ball and turned slower than an oil tanker.
Also a disgusting personality.
posted on 6/9/19
VVD for me best defender in the world
posted on 6/9/19
comment by Finlay Robertson (U1734)
posted 26 minutes ago
Has to be Robertson for me. Played a big part in winning the CL. As well as being part of the best back four in the world. He also played a big part in an incredible title challenge. About time a left back won it.
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I'd be okay with it
posted on 6/9/19
comment by Aggers Right Elbow (U3402)
posted 1 hour, 15 minutes ago
sted 1 hour, 47 minutes ago
big one I mean PL
And why would you laugh at John Terry who most consider the best CB of the Pl era? bit odd.
———-
Terry was a donkey. He looked OK playing in Jose’s dull as ditchwater defensive team but he was very limited on the ball and turned slower than an oil tanker.
Also a disgusting personality.
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posted on 6/9/19
comment by Finlay Robertson (U1734)
posted 1 hour, 19 minutes ago
Van Dijk bottled the league. Bottled the league cup. Bottled the FA cup and topped it off by bottling the nation's league. Getting destroyed in the final by a bunch of Wolves players. Just lucky to have been playing the worst side to have ever reached a CL final. Even then he needed a dodgy penalty.
If anything he should be punished. Not rewarded.
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Compelling argument.
posted on 6/9/19
comment by Aggers Right Elbow (U3402)
posted 1 hour, 16 minutes ago
sted 1 hour, 47 minutes ago
big one I mean PL
And why would you laugh at John Terry who most consider the best CB of the Pl era? bit odd.
———-
Terry was a donkey. He looked OK playing in Jose’s dull as ditchwater defensive team but he was very limited on the ball and turned slower than an oil tanker.
Also a disgusting personality.
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He was a very good passer of the ball. Ive nit net him but he's done some pretty shabby stuff but as a baller he was quality.
Stripping off to full kit wanchor for the photos was cringe as fvck too.
posted on 6/9/19
Set trends don't follow them. Terry
posted on 6/9/19
Expect him to win it
Would still say messi should though but think it depends what criteria you look at
posted on 6/9/19
This pass by Terry
https://twitter.com/ChelseaChadder/status/1085476936963551233
posted on 6/9/19
The biggest difference is people just expect it from Messi because he's the best player in the world.
The award is for the best player in the world. Is VVD better than Messi?
If Sissoko scored a hattrick in the Champions League final and Spurs won the competition, would that make him the best player in the world? Can't just judge players on a single game.
posted on 6/9/19
comment by Nickasaurus (U9257)
posted 4 hours, 4 minutes ago
Having said that, and he's been impressive. I just can't look past messi for Ballon d'or.
36 goals and 13 assists in 29 starts last season in a crap barca teamguys a joke.
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you would think he played for stoke ffs.
posted on 6/9/19
comment by Pride of the North (U6803)
posted 1 hour, 56 minutes ago
The biggest difference is people just expect it from Messi because he's the best player in the world.
The award is for the best player in the world. Is VVD better than Messi?
If Sissoko scored a hattrick in the Champions League final and Spurs won the competition, would that make him the best player in the world? Can't just judge players on a single game.
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no because sissoko isn't very good
posted on 6/9/19
comment by montleeds (U18330)
posted 1 hour, 20 minutes ago
comment by Nickasaurus (U9257)
posted 4 hours, 4 minutes ago
Having said that, and he's been impressive. I just can't look past messi for Ballon d'or.
36 goals and 13 assists in 29 starts last season in a crap barca teamguys a joke.
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you would think he played for stoke ffs.
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Why?
posted on 6/9/19
comment by Adam 'The interview' Lallana (U20650)
posted 1 minute ago
comment by Pride of the North (U6803)
posted 1 hour, 56 minutes ago
The biggest difference is people just expect it from Messi because he's the best player in the world.
The award is for the best player in the world. Is VVD better than Messi?
If Sissoko scored a hattrick in the Champions League final and Spurs won the competition, would that make him the best player in the world? Can't just judge players on a single game.
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no because sissoko isn't very good
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and VVD isn't as good as Messi
posted on 6/9/19
at attacking? correct
as defending? no
posted on 6/9/19
Liverpool's attackers built them up a massive lead over city. All they needed was for their defenders to defend that lead. Over to you Van Dijk....
posted on 6/9/19
comment by Adam 'The interview' Lallana (U20650)
posted 23 minutes ago
at attacking? correct
as defending? no
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That's not what I said above is it
posted on 6/9/19
comment by Pride of the North (U6803)
posted 40 minutes ago
comment by Adam 'The interview' Lallana (U20650)
posted 1 minute ago
comment by Pride of the North (U6803)
posted 1 hour, 56 minutes ago
The biggest difference is people just expect it from Messi because he's the best player in the world.
The award is for the best player in the world. Is VVD better than Messi?
If Sissoko scored a hattrick in the Champions League final and Spurs won the competition, would that make him the best player in the world? Can't just judge players on a single game.
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no because sissoko isn't very good
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and VVD isn't as good as Messi
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Moot point.
Balon D'or isn't decided upon by who you the voters think is the better player
posted on 6/9/19
comment by Finlay Robertson (U1734)
posted 6 hours, 33 minutes ago
Maguire was better for a weaker side at Leicester. Now bossing it at the biggest club in the world. The most expensive centre back in the world for good reason. Price tags don't lie. Van Dijk not far behind though.
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posted on 6/9/19
He should win it.
For a defender to play against the likes of Hazard, Aguero, Sterling, Mbappe, Neymar, Lewandowski, Suarez and Messi and not be taken on once is a stat that is unheard of.
Capped off that miracle stay with a Champions League win.
posted on 6/9/19
VVD
Would be a great achievement for a defender to win this, and definitively because he is Dutch.
posted on 6/9/19
comment by Pride of the North (U6803)
posted 1 hour, 31 minutes ago
comment by Adam 'The interview' Lallana (U20650)
posted 1 minute ago
comment by Pride of the North (U6803)
posted 1 hour, 56 minutes ago
The biggest difference is people just expect it from Messi because he's the best player in the world.
The award is for the best player in the world. Is VVD better than Messi?
If Sissoko scored a hattrick in the Champions League final and Spurs won the competition, would that make him the best player in the world? Can't just judge players on a single game.
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no because sissoko isn't very good
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and VVD isn't as good as Messi
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At scoring goals no but I know who I'd rather have in defence. Goalscorers always get the accolades for obvious reasons as goals win games.
Pool beat Barca and went onto win the biggest trophy in European club football, and would barca miss Messi as much as the current CL champions would miss VD?
Another way to look at it is if Messi joined Liverpool and not VD would they have been better placed to win the CL? I'd say no. That signifies the scale of how well that one signing has done and I'd fsure no one would begrudge him beating CR or Messi to the prize
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