Danny Rose is pretty average, especially for England. Shaw is too. I’m not convinced by Chillwell yet. He carries the ball well but doesn’t look up to much in the first and final third. Sessegnon looks more like a forward than a left back. So the jury is still out on that area for me. Compare it with right back as well and it’s a clear weakness in the team. Though the biggest weakness is clearly central midfield.
comment by Robb - Steve Smith = Legend ππ (U21234)
posted 3 minutes ago
Maybe it’s just me but I rate Pickford. Very very good shot stopper and fast off his line.
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He's not terrible, but he's not good enough to make up for having a mess in front of him. And after Pickford we're looking at Heaton, Pope and Butland. That's a crapload of average to poor.
comment by Robb - Steve Smith = Legend ππ (U21234)
posted 17 minutes ago
Maybe it’s just me but I rate Pickford. Very very good shot stopper and fast off his line.
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He's normally good for England tbf but he's a bit of a mess for Everton.
comment by Ace (U18814)
posted 9 hours, 18 minutes ago
comment by Sheriff JW Pepper (U1007)
posted 8 minutes ago
England are basically international Spurs
Complete and utter bottle merchants with absolutely no winning mentality when it counts
Scotland are naturally just rubbish - much like Celtic in Europe due to playing in a shat poor league
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Oh look, speaking of intelligent football fans that understand the game here’s an example of the polar opposite - some old fat bloke from Portsmouth that supports Chelsea and never adds anything but unbelievably thick, barbed comments to any discussion.
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Knew you couldn't resist...truth hurts...and it is exactly that
The fact that a good percentage of the England side is actually made up of Spurs players just adds to this fact
comment by Sheriff JW Pepper (U1007)
posted 45 minutes ago
The fact that a good percentage of the England side is actually made up of Spurs players just adds to this fact
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And there it is the real reason you can't help but bring Spurs into things. I bet summer 18 was murder for you.
Half my 7 year old lads class support Spurs (the other half are Liverpool) and Tottenhams heavy presence in the England team plays a huge part in that. Infact its been a real eye opener to me how much youngsters love the national side.
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comment by Bales (U22081)
posted 9 hours, 4 minutes ago
comment by Robb - Steve Smith = Legend ππ (U21234)
posted 3 minutes ago
Maybe it’s just me but I rate Pickford. Very very good shot stopper and fast off his line.
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He's not terrible, but he's not good enough to make up for having a mess in front of him. And after Pickford we're looking at Heaton, Pope and Butland. That's a crapload of average to poor.
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He's the best keeper we've had since Seaman. Admittedly it didn't take much for that to happen but you can't deny he's quality at stopping shots and with pens and for England that makes a big difference.
Hart in his pomp shiiiiit all over Pickford.
As a Welshman, I am pretty content with how our national side are doing at the minute, even though Ryan Giggs has not got a clue what he is doing.
England obviously are the best of us all, the best of a bad bunch perhaps ?
But out of all the other nations, there are probably only two players that would improve Wales, they are Robertson of Scotland and Johnny Evans of Northern Ireland.
No other players from Rep Ire, NI or Scotland would walk into the Welsh side.
We have a good crop of youngsters, Harry Wilson, Ben Woodburn, Dan James, Brookes, Ampadu, Mepham, Roddan, Johnny Williams. Add into that, Joe Allen, Aaron Ramsey, Gareth Bale, Ashley Williams, Wayne Hennessey.
The problem for Scotland is, the only decent players are at Celtic, and they are not very good, Scott Brown, Griffiths ect... they are all average. Keiran Tierney is not bad.
Then they are left with players from Hibs, Hearts, Aberdeen, Kilmarnock, these are not very good clubs. It's like Wales picking players from TNS and Barry Town. At least we have Cardiff, and Swansea producing decent talent, and even at Championship level, it's still higher than what Scotland, Rep Ire, and NI have.
I do not know the ins and outs of what goes on, but there seems to be a hell of a lot of young Welsh players at academies at the premiership clubs, I do not know what scouting is being done in Wales, but they are being unearthed, and Wales as a nation are reaping the benefits of this.
Also, lets not forget, a few of the Welsh players are playing in the Championship, which is arguably a higher standard than the top leagues of most of Europe, especially outside the bigger clubs. Even Portugal, when you take Benfica, Sporting and Porto, would you say teams like Rio Ave, Tondela, Santa Clara and Maratimo to name a few are better than Leeds, Swansea, Cardiff, QPR, West Brom, Fullham ?
Sorry for the long reply, I just wanted to get a point across.
comment by Ace (U18814)
posted 12 hours, 22 minutes ago
England.
Scotland has a population of about 5.2m to draw players from. England has a population of about 67m to draw players from, and one of the most successful domestic leagues in world football. Both have achieved the same in international football the last 50 years, and England have won a pitiful one trophy since playing their first ever international football match 149 years ago.
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England's population is circa £55m, but it doesn't change your point.
comment by Edbo (U17933)
posted 5 seconds ago
comment by Ace (U18814)
posted 12 hours, 22 minutes ago
England.
Scotland has a population of about 5.2m to draw players from. England has a population of about 67m to draw players from, and one of the most successful domestic leagues in world football. Both have achieved the same in international football the last 50 years, and England have won a pitiful one trophy since playing their first ever international football match 149 years ago.
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England's population is circa £55m, but it doesn't change your point.
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Ignore the £
comment by LordDowlias (U3236)
posted 12 minutes ago
As a Welshman, I am pretty content with how our national side are doing at the minute, even though Ryan Giggs has not got a clue what he is doing.
England obviously are the best of us all, the best of a bad bunch perhaps ?
But out of all the other nations, there are probably only two players that would improve Wales, they are Robertson of Scotland and Johnny Evans of Northern Ireland.
No other players from Rep Ire, NI or Scotland would walk into the Welsh side.
We have a good crop of youngsters, Harry Wilson, Ben Woodburn, Dan James, Brookes, Ampadu, Mepham, Roddan, Johnny Williams. Add into that, Joe Allen, Aaron Ramsey, Gareth Bale, Ashley Williams, Wayne Hennessey.
The problem for Scotland is, the only decent players are at Celtic, and they are not very good, Scott Brown, Griffiths ect... they are all average. Keiran Tierney is not bad.
Then they are left with players from Hibs, Hearts, Aberdeen, Kilmarnock, these are not very good clubs. It's like Wales picking players from TNS and Barry Town. At least we have Cardiff, and Swansea producing decent talent, and even at Championship level, it's still higher than what Scotland, Rep Ire, and NI have.
I do not know the ins and outs of what goes on, but there seems to be a hell of a lot of young Welsh players at academies at the premiership clubs, I do not know what scouting is being done in Wales, but they are being unearthed, and Wales as a nation are reaping the benefits of this.
Also, lets not forget, a few of the Welsh players are playing in the Championship, which is arguably a higher standard than the top leagues of most of Europe, especially outside the bigger clubs. Even Portugal, when you take Benfica, Sporting and Porto, would you say teams like Rio Ave, Tondela, Santa Clara and Maratimo to name a few are better than Leeds, Swansea, Cardiff, QPR, West Brom, Fullham ?
Sorry for the long reply, I just wanted to get a point across.
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Wales benefit massively from a large portion of their squad being made up of English players, in fairness.
comment by PawlBawron (U1055)
posted 1 hour, 6 minutes ago
comment by Sheriff JW Pepper (U1007)
posted 45 minutes ago
The fact that a good percentage of the England side is actually made up of Spurs players just adds to this fact
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And there it is the real reason you can't help but bring Spurs into things. I bet summer 18 was murder for you.
Half my 7 year old lads class support Spurs (the other half are Liverpool) and Tottenhams heavy presence in the England team plays a huge part in that. Infact its been a real eye opener to me how much youngsters love the national side.
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Where do you live?
England are the biggest underachievers in the history of world football. Can't really argue with that.
Their second choice centre back pairing alone cost £130m. That's more money than there has ever been in the history of Scotland in any shape or form. Kane valued at £200m. Alli at £170m. Sterling at £230m. Rashford £100m
The most expensive ever national side, whilst being the least successful = biggest underachievers of all time in anything ever.
comment by Finlay Robertson (U1734)
posted 1 hour, 5 minutes ago
England are the biggest underachievers in the history of world football. Can't really argue with that.
Their second choice centre back pairing alone cost £130m. That's more money than there has ever been in the history of Scotland in any shape or form. Kane valued at £200m. Alli at £170m. Sterling at £230m. Rashford £100m
The most expensive ever national side, whilst being the least successful = biggest underachievers of all time in anything ever.
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is right lad
comment by Edbo (U17933)
posted 58 minutes ago
comment by PawlBawron (U1055)
posted 1 hour, 6 minutes ago
comment by Sheriff JW Pepper (U1007)
posted 45 minutes ago
The fact that a good percentage of the England side is actually made up of Spurs players just adds to this fact
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And there it is the real reason you can't help but bring Spurs into things. I bet summer 18 was murder for you.
Half my 7 year old lads class support Spurs (the other half are Liverpool) and Tottenhams heavy presence in the England team plays a huge part in that. Infact its been a real eye opener to me how much youngsters love the national side.
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Where do you live?
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Oxfordshire.
Its always a good barometer round here of whos hot and whos not where youngsters are concerned as its 60 miles to the nearest Prem ground so its a very neutral area.
Most refreshing is that City aren't cutting through at all. My son plays footie after school on Mondays (guy who represents Southampton fc runs it) and the kids wear their replica tops. Not a City shirt in sight.
comment by peks..#free el chapo (U6618)
posted 2 minutes ago
comment by Finlay Robertson (U1734)
posted 1 hour, 5 minutes ago
England are the biggest underachievers in the history of world football. Can't really argue with that.
Their second choice centre back pairing alone cost £130m. That's more money than there has ever been in the history of Scotland in any shape or form. Kane valued at £200m. Alli at £170m. Sterling at £230m. Rashford £100m
The most expensive ever national side, whilst being the least successful = biggest underachievers of all time in anything ever.
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is right lad
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Where is he getting them valuations from?
comment by Edbo (U17933)
posted 3 minutes ago
comment by peks..#free el chapo (U6618)
posted 2 minutes ago
comment by Finlay Robertson (U1734)
posted 1 hour, 5 minutes ago
England are the biggest underachievers in the history of world football. Can't really argue with that.
Their second choice centre back pairing alone cost £130m. That's more money than there has ever been in the history of Scotland in any shape or form. Kane valued at £200m. Alli at £170m. Sterling at £230m. Rashford £100m
The most expensive ever national side, whilst being the least successful = biggest underachievers of all time in anything ever.
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is right lad
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Where is he getting them valuations from?
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Kane and Sterling are both valued at approx £150m. That means that another English team would pay at least almost more than half of that on top of the valuation. It is because there is a law that requires English teams to have at least 2 English players and that's very difficult for top teams because English players are so bad.
comment by PawlBawron (U1055)
posted 5 hours, 25 minutes ago
comment by Sheriff JW Pepper (U1007)
posted 45 minutes ago
The fact that a good percentage of the England side is actually made up of Spurs players just adds to this fact
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And there it is the real reason you can't help but bring Spurs into things. I bet summer 18 was murder for you.
Half my 7 year old lads class support Spurs (the other half are Liverpool) and Tottenhams heavy presence in the England team plays a huge part in that. Infact its been a real eye opener to me how much youngsters love the national side.
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and they are going to be as disappointed in their lifetime as I have been (in the time I can recall back) with our national side...aren't they...
Ace again showing his class on here....resorts to his usual crass rubbish or unsuitable content on here & gets deleted...what a dweeb
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comment by LordDowlias (U3236)
posted 5 hours, 41 minutes ago
As a Welshman, I am pretty content with how our national side are doing at the minute, even though Ryan Giggs has not got a clue what he is doing.
England obviously are the best of us all, the best of a bad bunch perhaps ?
But out of all the other nations, there are probably only two players that would improve Wales, they are Robertson of Scotland and Johnny Evans of Northern Ireland.
No other players from Rep Ire, NI or Scotland would walk into the Welsh side.
We have a good crop of youngsters, Harry Wilson, Ben Woodburn, Dan James, Brookes, Ampadu, Mepham, Roddan, Johnny Williams. Add into that, Joe Allen, Aaron Ramsey, Gareth Bale, Ashley Williams, Wayne Hennessey.
The problem for Scotland is, the only decent players are at Celtic, and they are not very good, Scott Brown, Griffiths ect... they are all average. Keiran Tierney is not bad.
Then they are left with players from Hibs, Hearts, Aberdeen, Kilmarnock, these are not very good clubs. It's like Wales picking players from TNS and Barry Town. At least we have Cardiff, and Swansea producing decent talent, and even at Championship level, it's still higher than what Scotland, Rep Ire, and NI have.
I do not know the ins and outs of what goes on, but there seems to be a hell of a lot of young Welsh players at academies at the premiership clubs, I do not know what scouting is being done in Wales, but they are being unearthed, and Wales as a nation are reaping the benefits of this.
Also, lets not forget, a few of the Welsh players are playing in the Championship, which is arguably a higher standard than the top leagues of most of Europe, especially outside the bigger clubs. Even Portugal, when you take Benfica, Sporting and Porto, would you say teams like Rio Ave, Tondela, Santa Clara and Maratimo to name a few are better than Leeds, Swansea, Cardiff, QPR, West Brom, Fullham ?
Sorry for the long reply, I just wanted to get a point across.
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For me Lewis is better than Davies. Davis would surely get into the Wales team. Evans. Possibly Cathcart too. But yeah, individually Wales have a better squad but not much in it in terms of the actual teams.
comment by Ace (U18814)
posted 1 hour, 33 minutes ago
comment by Sheriff JW Pepper (U1007)
posted 28 minutes ago
Ace again showing his class on here....resorts to his usual crass rubbish or unsuitable content on here & gets deleted...what a dweeb
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What would you know about class you cretinous oaf.
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just can't leave it alone...can you...
Countries that have reached a final of Euros or World Cup since England won in '66:
Italy x 7
Yugoslavia x 1
Germany/West Germany x 13
Russia x 2
Czech Republic x 2
Belgium x 1
France x 6
Spain x 4
Netherlands x 4
Denmark x 1
Greece x 1
Portugal x 2
Brazil x 4
Argentina x 4
Croatia x 1
In addition Poland, Sweden and Turkey have all finished third in a tournament since we last did.
Shows you have facking dire "big team" England have been at international level.
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posted on 9/9/19
Danny Rose is pretty average, especially for England. Shaw is too. I’m not convinced by Chillwell yet. He carries the ball well but doesn’t look up to much in the first and final third. Sessegnon looks more like a forward than a left back. So the jury is still out on that area for me. Compare it with right back as well and it’s a clear weakness in the team. Though the biggest weakness is clearly central midfield.
posted on 9/9/19
comment by Robb - Steve Smith = Legend ππ (U21234)
posted 3 minutes ago
Maybe it’s just me but I rate Pickford. Very very good shot stopper and fast off his line.
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He's not terrible, but he's not good enough to make up for having a mess in front of him. And after Pickford we're looking at Heaton, Pope and Butland. That's a crapload of average to poor.
posted on 9/9/19
comment by Robb - Steve Smith = Legend ππ (U21234)
posted 17 minutes ago
Maybe it’s just me but I rate Pickford. Very very good shot stopper and fast off his line.
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He's normally good for England tbf but he's a bit of a mess for Everton.
posted on 10/9/19
comment by Ace (U18814)
posted 9 hours, 18 minutes ago
comment by Sheriff JW Pepper (U1007)
posted 8 minutes ago
England are basically international Spurs
Complete and utter bottle merchants with absolutely no winning mentality when it counts
Scotland are naturally just rubbish - much like Celtic in Europe due to playing in a shat poor league
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Oh look, speaking of intelligent football fans that understand the game here’s an example of the polar opposite - some old fat bloke from Portsmouth that supports Chelsea and never adds anything but unbelievably thick, barbed comments to any discussion.
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Knew you couldn't resist...truth hurts...and it is exactly that
posted on 10/9/19
The fact that a good percentage of the England side is actually made up of Spurs players just adds to this fact
posted on 10/9/19
comment by Sheriff JW Pepper (U1007)
posted 45 minutes ago
The fact that a good percentage of the England side is actually made up of Spurs players just adds to this fact
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And there it is the real reason you can't help but bring Spurs into things. I bet summer 18 was murder for you.
Half my 7 year old lads class support Spurs (the other half are Liverpool) and Tottenhams heavy presence in the England team plays a huge part in that. Infact its been a real eye opener to me how much youngsters love the national side.
posted on 10/9/19
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posted on 10/9/19
comment by Bales (U22081)
posted 9 hours, 4 minutes ago
comment by Robb - Steve Smith = Legend ππ (U21234)
posted 3 minutes ago
Maybe it’s just me but I rate Pickford. Very very good shot stopper and fast off his line.
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He's not terrible, but he's not good enough to make up for having a mess in front of him. And after Pickford we're looking at Heaton, Pope and Butland. That's a crapload of average to poor.
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He's the best keeper we've had since Seaman. Admittedly it didn't take much for that to happen but you can't deny he's quality at stopping shots and with pens and for England that makes a big difference.
posted on 10/9/19
Hart in his pomp shiiiiit all over Pickford.
posted on 10/9/19
As a Welshman, I am pretty content with how our national side are doing at the minute, even though Ryan Giggs has not got a clue what he is doing.
England obviously are the best of us all, the best of a bad bunch perhaps ?
But out of all the other nations, there are probably only two players that would improve Wales, they are Robertson of Scotland and Johnny Evans of Northern Ireland.
No other players from Rep Ire, NI or Scotland would walk into the Welsh side.
We have a good crop of youngsters, Harry Wilson, Ben Woodburn, Dan James, Brookes, Ampadu, Mepham, Roddan, Johnny Williams. Add into that, Joe Allen, Aaron Ramsey, Gareth Bale, Ashley Williams, Wayne Hennessey.
The problem for Scotland is, the only decent players are at Celtic, and they are not very good, Scott Brown, Griffiths ect... they are all average. Keiran Tierney is not bad.
Then they are left with players from Hibs, Hearts, Aberdeen, Kilmarnock, these are not very good clubs. It's like Wales picking players from TNS and Barry Town. At least we have Cardiff, and Swansea producing decent talent, and even at Championship level, it's still higher than what Scotland, Rep Ire, and NI have.
I do not know the ins and outs of what goes on, but there seems to be a hell of a lot of young Welsh players at academies at the premiership clubs, I do not know what scouting is being done in Wales, but they are being unearthed, and Wales as a nation are reaping the benefits of this.
Also, lets not forget, a few of the Welsh players are playing in the Championship, which is arguably a higher standard than the top leagues of most of Europe, especially outside the bigger clubs. Even Portugal, when you take Benfica, Sporting and Porto, would you say teams like Rio Ave, Tondela, Santa Clara and Maratimo to name a few are better than Leeds, Swansea, Cardiff, QPR, West Brom, Fullham ?
Sorry for the long reply, I just wanted to get a point across.
posted on 10/9/19
comment by Ace (U18814)
posted 12 hours, 22 minutes ago
England.
Scotland has a population of about 5.2m to draw players from. England has a population of about 67m to draw players from, and one of the most successful domestic leagues in world football. Both have achieved the same in international football the last 50 years, and England have won a pitiful one trophy since playing their first ever international football match 149 years ago.
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England's population is circa £55m, but it doesn't change your point.
posted on 10/9/19
comment by Edbo (U17933)
posted 5 seconds ago
comment by Ace (U18814)
posted 12 hours, 22 minutes ago
England.
Scotland has a population of about 5.2m to draw players from. England has a population of about 67m to draw players from, and one of the most successful domestic leagues in world football. Both have achieved the same in international football the last 50 years, and England have won a pitiful one trophy since playing their first ever international football match 149 years ago.
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England's population is circa £55m, but it doesn't change your point.
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Ignore the £
posted on 10/9/19
comment by LordDowlias (U3236)
posted 12 minutes ago
As a Welshman, I am pretty content with how our national side are doing at the minute, even though Ryan Giggs has not got a clue what he is doing.
England obviously are the best of us all, the best of a bad bunch perhaps ?
But out of all the other nations, there are probably only two players that would improve Wales, they are Robertson of Scotland and Johnny Evans of Northern Ireland.
No other players from Rep Ire, NI or Scotland would walk into the Welsh side.
We have a good crop of youngsters, Harry Wilson, Ben Woodburn, Dan James, Brookes, Ampadu, Mepham, Roddan, Johnny Williams. Add into that, Joe Allen, Aaron Ramsey, Gareth Bale, Ashley Williams, Wayne Hennessey.
The problem for Scotland is, the only decent players are at Celtic, and they are not very good, Scott Brown, Griffiths ect... they are all average. Keiran Tierney is not bad.
Then they are left with players from Hibs, Hearts, Aberdeen, Kilmarnock, these are not very good clubs. It's like Wales picking players from TNS and Barry Town. At least we have Cardiff, and Swansea producing decent talent, and even at Championship level, it's still higher than what Scotland, Rep Ire, and NI have.
I do not know the ins and outs of what goes on, but there seems to be a hell of a lot of young Welsh players at academies at the premiership clubs, I do not know what scouting is being done in Wales, but they are being unearthed, and Wales as a nation are reaping the benefits of this.
Also, lets not forget, a few of the Welsh players are playing in the Championship, which is arguably a higher standard than the top leagues of most of Europe, especially outside the bigger clubs. Even Portugal, when you take Benfica, Sporting and Porto, would you say teams like Rio Ave, Tondela, Santa Clara and Maratimo to name a few are better than Leeds, Swansea, Cardiff, QPR, West Brom, Fullham ?
Sorry for the long reply, I just wanted to get a point across.
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Wales benefit massively from a large portion of their squad being made up of English players, in fairness.
posted on 10/9/19
comment by PawlBawron (U1055)
posted 1 hour, 6 minutes ago
comment by Sheriff JW Pepper (U1007)
posted 45 minutes ago
The fact that a good percentage of the England side is actually made up of Spurs players just adds to this fact
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And there it is the real reason you can't help but bring Spurs into things. I bet summer 18 was murder for you.
Half my 7 year old lads class support Spurs (the other half are Liverpool) and Tottenhams heavy presence in the England team plays a huge part in that. Infact its been a real eye opener to me how much youngsters love the national side.
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Where do you live?
posted on 10/9/19
England are the biggest underachievers in the history of world football. Can't really argue with that.
Their second choice centre back pairing alone cost £130m. That's more money than there has ever been in the history of Scotland in any shape or form. Kane valued at £200m. Alli at £170m. Sterling at £230m. Rashford £100m
The most expensive ever national side, whilst being the least successful = biggest underachievers of all time in anything ever.
posted on 10/9/19
comment by Finlay Robertson (U1734)
posted 1 hour, 5 minutes ago
England are the biggest underachievers in the history of world football. Can't really argue with that.
Their second choice centre back pairing alone cost £130m. That's more money than there has ever been in the history of Scotland in any shape or form. Kane valued at £200m. Alli at £170m. Sterling at £230m. Rashford £100m
The most expensive ever national side, whilst being the least successful = biggest underachievers of all time in anything ever.
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is right lad
posted on 10/9/19
comment by Edbo (U17933)
posted 58 minutes ago
comment by PawlBawron (U1055)
posted 1 hour, 6 minutes ago
comment by Sheriff JW Pepper (U1007)
posted 45 minutes ago
The fact that a good percentage of the England side is actually made up of Spurs players just adds to this fact
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And there it is the real reason you can't help but bring Spurs into things. I bet summer 18 was murder for you.
Half my 7 year old lads class support Spurs (the other half are Liverpool) and Tottenhams heavy presence in the England team plays a huge part in that. Infact its been a real eye opener to me how much youngsters love the national side.
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Where do you live?
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Oxfordshire.
Its always a good barometer round here of whos hot and whos not where youngsters are concerned as its 60 miles to the nearest Prem ground so its a very neutral area.
Most refreshing is that City aren't cutting through at all. My son plays footie after school on Mondays (guy who represents Southampton fc runs it) and the kids wear their replica tops. Not a City shirt in sight.
posted on 10/9/19
comment by peks..#free el chapo (U6618)
posted 2 minutes ago
comment by Finlay Robertson (U1734)
posted 1 hour, 5 minutes ago
England are the biggest underachievers in the history of world football. Can't really argue with that.
Their second choice centre back pairing alone cost £130m. That's more money than there has ever been in the history of Scotland in any shape or form. Kane valued at £200m. Alli at £170m. Sterling at £230m. Rashford £100m
The most expensive ever national side, whilst being the least successful = biggest underachievers of all time in anything ever.
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is right lad
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Where is he getting them valuations from?
posted on 10/9/19
comment by Edbo (U17933)
posted 3 minutes ago
comment by peks..#free el chapo (U6618)
posted 2 minutes ago
comment by Finlay Robertson (U1734)
posted 1 hour, 5 minutes ago
England are the biggest underachievers in the history of world football. Can't really argue with that.
Their second choice centre back pairing alone cost £130m. That's more money than there has ever been in the history of Scotland in any shape or form. Kane valued at £200m. Alli at £170m. Sterling at £230m. Rashford £100m
The most expensive ever national side, whilst being the least successful = biggest underachievers of all time in anything ever.
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is right lad
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Where is he getting them valuations from?
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Kane and Sterling are both valued at approx £150m. That means that another English team would pay at least almost more than half of that on top of the valuation. It is because there is a law that requires English teams to have at least 2 English players and that's very difficult for top teams because English players are so bad.
posted on 10/9/19
comment by PawlBawron (U1055)
posted 5 hours, 25 minutes ago
comment by Sheriff JW Pepper (U1007)
posted 45 minutes ago
The fact that a good percentage of the England side is actually made up of Spurs players just adds to this fact
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And there it is the real reason you can't help but bring Spurs into things. I bet summer 18 was murder for you.
Half my 7 year old lads class support Spurs (the other half are Liverpool) and Tottenhams heavy presence in the England team plays a huge part in that. Infact its been a real eye opener to me how much youngsters love the national side.
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and they are going to be as disappointed in their lifetime as I have been (in the time I can recall back) with our national side...aren't they...
posted on 10/9/19
Ace again showing his class on here....resorts to his usual crass rubbish or unsuitable content on here & gets deleted...what a dweeb
posted on 10/9/19
Comment deleted by Site Moderator
posted on 10/9/19
comment by LordDowlias (U3236)
posted 5 hours, 41 minutes ago
As a Welshman, I am pretty content with how our national side are doing at the minute, even though Ryan Giggs has not got a clue what he is doing.
England obviously are the best of us all, the best of a bad bunch perhaps ?
But out of all the other nations, there are probably only two players that would improve Wales, they are Robertson of Scotland and Johnny Evans of Northern Ireland.
No other players from Rep Ire, NI or Scotland would walk into the Welsh side.
We have a good crop of youngsters, Harry Wilson, Ben Woodburn, Dan James, Brookes, Ampadu, Mepham, Roddan, Johnny Williams. Add into that, Joe Allen, Aaron Ramsey, Gareth Bale, Ashley Williams, Wayne Hennessey.
The problem for Scotland is, the only decent players are at Celtic, and they are not very good, Scott Brown, Griffiths ect... they are all average. Keiran Tierney is not bad.
Then they are left with players from Hibs, Hearts, Aberdeen, Kilmarnock, these are not very good clubs. It's like Wales picking players from TNS and Barry Town. At least we have Cardiff, and Swansea producing decent talent, and even at Championship level, it's still higher than what Scotland, Rep Ire, and NI have.
I do not know the ins and outs of what goes on, but there seems to be a hell of a lot of young Welsh players at academies at the premiership clubs, I do not know what scouting is being done in Wales, but they are being unearthed, and Wales as a nation are reaping the benefits of this.
Also, lets not forget, a few of the Welsh players are playing in the Championship, which is arguably a higher standard than the top leagues of most of Europe, especially outside the bigger clubs. Even Portugal, when you take Benfica, Sporting and Porto, would you say teams like Rio Ave, Tondela, Santa Clara and Maratimo to name a few are better than Leeds, Swansea, Cardiff, QPR, West Brom, Fullham ?
Sorry for the long reply, I just wanted to get a point across.
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For me Lewis is better than Davies. Davis would surely get into the Wales team. Evans. Possibly Cathcart too. But yeah, individually Wales have a better squad but not much in it in terms of the actual teams.
posted on 10/9/19
comment by Ace (U18814)
posted 1 hour, 33 minutes ago
comment by Sheriff JW Pepper (U1007)
posted 28 minutes ago
Ace again showing his class on here....resorts to his usual crass rubbish or unsuitable content on here & gets deleted...what a dweeb
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What would you know about class you cretinous oaf.
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just can't leave it alone...can you...
posted on 10/9/19
Countries that have reached a final of Euros or World Cup since England won in '66:
Italy x 7
Yugoslavia x 1
Germany/West Germany x 13
Russia x 2
Czech Republic x 2
Belgium x 1
France x 6
Spain x 4
Netherlands x 4
Denmark x 1
Greece x 1
Portugal x 2
Brazil x 4
Argentina x 4
Croatia x 1
In addition Poland, Sweden and Turkey have all finished third in a tournament since we last did.
Shows you have facking dire "big team" England have been at international level.
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