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posted on 11/9/19

Of course there are. I reckon loads do it but most are done through accounts that mates and family set up. When most vices like booze and drugs, and to a certain extent women, are difficult to indulge in as a pro athlete, gambling will always be something that attracts footballers with a lot of money and a lot of time on their hands. I have no issue with it if they're not making bets on teams or games that directly impact their own team.

posted on 11/9/19

They should count themselves lucky. Look at the Pakistan players who had to spend time in jail for spot fixing which was ridiculous.

posted on 11/9/19

The fine on Stevens is disproportionate but to be expected.

posted on 11/9/19

comment by (kash) I'm the Mané - 6 Times Baby (U1108)
posted 2 minutes ago
They should count themselves lucky. Look at the Pakistan players who had to spend time in jail for spot fixing which was ridiculous.
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Not really the same thing. He was proven to deliberately spot fix to earn money. Granted the prison sentence was very harsh. It isn't in the same ball park as betting for or against your own team unless it's proven you have done something to impact that result.

posted on 11/9/19

The fine, while excessive for a young lad, I get.

Give him a 6 game suspension as well, ok maybe.

But suspending him from all things football for that period is hugely over the top and ridiculous in terms of dealing with the problem he (may) have. Totally disproportionate and seemingly devoid of any common sense.

posted on 11/9/19

Exactly the Pakistan example was blatant cheating, pretty much fraud so a prison sentences would to be expected

posted on 11/9/19

Spot fixing is done to deliberately alter the course of a match, and is done to order, to affect betting. That affects the public who are placing bets and unaware. Totally different.

Prison possibly harsh, but it's different to a teenager bored, not playing and having a bet here and there. He's not influencing the outcome of those matches.

posted on 11/9/19

Whatever happened to that Barton fellow?

posted on 11/9/19

What is the actual rule on it? - Pro footballers aren't allowed to bet at all? - or just on football?

posted on 11/9/19

He must have known the rules - in which case, he was effin stupid and can't complain. And I don't think fans should defend him in any way.

posted on 11/9/19

comment by Lorralorimer (U18994)
posted 32 minutes ago
He must have known the rules - in which case, he was effin stupid and can't complain. And I don't think fans should defend him in any way.
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Agree he was stupid. Nobody on here defending him though - just debating whether his punishment was in keeping with his crime.

posted on 11/9/19

What went against him, was he went on a course two days before about the rules on gambling.

Then gambled on football

posted on 11/9/19

comment by LIW Radchancer (U8453)
posted 55 seconds ago

What went against him, was he went on a course two days before about the rules on gambling.

Then gambled on football

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is that true?

- what a kn 0 b

posted on 11/9/19

Yup

He admitted he’d done the course on 20th of September

posted on 11/9/19

Just goes to show that the authorities make up the rules of the back of a cigarette packet, similar to the one used on Mike Bassett, England Manager.

posted on 11/9/19

No the rules are clear

He broke them, get punished

Let’s stop playing the victim

comment by Jonty (U4614)

posted on 11/9/19

He bet on Leeds matches as well, where he clearly has insider information, there is potential for Leeds to be punished in some form for allowing this to happen, so we've actually gotten off relatively lightly bearing in mind how people feel all authorities against us.

All professional sportsmen are aware the rules on gambling, I bet regularly on tennis matches and I'm to allowed to share with the player that I'm betting on them, its that tight. The club have players looking after player welfare, there really are no excuses here, its 6 weeks, keep fit, don't make same mistake again and hope others learn from it.

posted on 11/9/19

comment by LIW Radchancer (U8453)
posted 34 minutes ago
No the rules are clear

He broke them, get punished

Let’s stop playing the victim
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This

comment by Jonty (U4614)

posted on 11/9/19

comment by Jonty (U4614)
posted 1 hour, 45 minutes ago
He bet on Leeds matches as well, where he clearly has insider information, there is potential for Leeds to be punished in some form for allowing this to happen, so we've actually gotten off relatively lightly bearing in mind how people feel all authorities against us.

All professional sportsmen are aware the rules on gambling, I bet regularly on tennis matches and I'm to allowed to share with the player that I'm betting on them, its that tight. The club have players looking after player welfare, there really are no excuses here, its 6 weeks, keep fit, don't make same mistake again and hope others learn from it.
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I'm NOT allowed to share with the player that I'm betting on them, its that tight.

posted on 11/9/19

I don't think the punishment is 100% warranted, but he shouldn't have done what he did, and he invited that punishment onto him.

posted on 11/9/19

This reflects badly on Leeds - I think the club would be justified in imposing their own fine on Stevens.

posted on 11/9/19

The club looks better by supporting a young player who made a mistake under tough circumstances. Doing it absolutely the right way.

posted on 11/9/19

comment by Lubo - Get Excited for Leeds United (U14008)
posted 1 hour, 7 minutes ago
The club looks better by supporting a young player who made a mistake under tough circumstances. Doing it absolutely the right way.
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That's a valid point Lubo

posted on 12/9/19

This lad did wrong and needs to learn that he is responsible for his actions. The club should accept this and realise that they have a duty to ensure their players are fulfilled for a full working day.

Send him off with an independent to walk the mountains in North Spain and learn a bit of life elsewhere and contemplate and talk and understand the value of life. Plus do some charity work.

He will be fine for life if he accepts this and become a better person. Lufc should realise his future is more important than his current

comment by NJS (U8272)

posted on 12/9/19

The club should tell him the tale of Tony Kay,
Peter Swan and 'Bronco' Layne of Sheffield Wed,
banned for life in the 1960s for fixing matches...
If the club are familiar with that scandal?

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