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posted on 11/9/19

My view is the contract lengths are too long but they do protect the club.

comment by Jonty (U4614)

posted on 11/9/19

Re contract lengths I think at least they are now known quantity players in our set up rather than multi year contracts to De Bocks etc.

One hopes thats not a millstone for us when we need to upgrade which we surely will and also if Bielsa not with us for 5 years then players can easily fall out of favour.

I hope we're not paying stupid money per week.

posted on 11/9/19

It’s much better to have these players tied to decent contracts because if, heaven forbid, we fail to get promotion again they will not be sold to premiership clubs for peanuts. I love it that Dallas thinks of Leeds as his home, somewhere he wants to bring up his young family. I hate it when players just use the club as a stepping stone to higher things (Bailey?).

posted on 11/9/19

Dallas hasn't had the easiest time with fans or a regular berth in the team but he's done more than enough to warrant a new contract.

And yes, saying all of the right things instead of petulant outbursts....

posted on 11/9/19

Phillips five year deal was right

These two are getting at least a year too long

But it is good news

posted on 11/9/19

Its odd why so many have it in for Dallas, he's played as well as any in the team and always gives his all!..

And Cooper, the players choice has been brilliant, I wonder if that's down to White or if Whites so good because of him!..

Whatever, a great partnership to have and hopefully these contracts bring that bit more out of all that get them!..

posted on 11/9/19

Agreed

comment by Stoopo (U4707)

posted on 11/9/19

More good news! Now to smash Barnsley on Sunday.

posted on 11/9/19

Coops and Dallas are stalwarts in our team, and great models for our younger players. I can see the reasoning behind the contracts, but 4 years is a long time in football. We gave a lot of poor players lengthy contracts under Cellino and we are still paying for that. It's a great deal for the players and their families, but have we learned our lesson? I guess the devil will be in the detail.

posted on 11/9/19

comment by MaidinLeeds (U2464)
posted 2 hours, 25 minutes ago
It’s much better to have these players tied to decent contracts because if, heaven forbid, we fail to get promotion again they will not be sold to premiership clubs for peanuts. I love it that Dallas thinks of Leeds as his home, somewhere he wants to bring up his young family. I hate it when players just use the club as a stepping stone to higher things (Bailey?).
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Think that’s a bit of a black and white view to a grey situation, maid.

Cooper and Dallas are older and getting regular game time. BPF got dropped for casilla, and was messed around over contracts... then a item club come in for him. Don’t think he viewed Leeds as a stepping stone - sometimes it’s just circumstantial and how things pan out.

Agree with LIW. At 28, five and four year deals are too long for cooper and Dallas, but both are known quantities, have done good jobs and deserve new contracts.

posted on 11/9/19

"Agree with LIW. At 28, five and four year deals are too long for cooper and Dallas, but both are known quantities, have done good jobs and deserve new contracts."

I think you have answered your own doubts "five and four year deals are too long" there.

These 2 men have shown their depth of character and professionalism at the club for a number of years now. They can be relied and depended on to give their all for the club into their young thirties. There are other players, to call out two recently departed ones - Jansson and Saiz - whom would be risky to give longer contracts to. As exciting as they were, and dazzling at times, they are not exactly the type of characters that one could depend on too far into the future.

posted on 11/9/19

Absolutely astounded with these deals

I thought the plan was to be promoted this season in which case Dallas and cooper being trusted with job of taking Leeds to a top10 club fills me with dread.

Whilst I agree we wouldn’t unless bought out be able to spend 100m going forwards there’s no way these type of players are going to deliver what we want over the next 4/5 seasons.

One year extension for both. Nothing more.

My mate just text saying “great. Planning for a long future in the championship”

posted on 11/9/19

Answer this question?

Where do you want Leeds United to be in 5 years time?
Just asked a few mates and all stated Top10 established premier league side hopefully pushing towards the top 6.

Will a 33-year old Liam Cooper or a 32-year old tuart Dallas be able to deliver that?

posted on 11/9/19

comment by Kebablegs (U17699)
posted 4 minutes ago
Answer this question?

Where do you want Leeds United to be in 5 years time?
Just asked a few mates and all stated Top10 established premier league side hopefully pushing towards the top 6.

Will a 33-year old Liam Cooper or a 32-year old tuart Dallas be able to deliver that?

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Likely not, unless you think Pablo cannot deliver this season, but they will be at the end of their contracts then so perhaps the length is perfect?

posted on 12/9/19

With Kebab on this - really pleased with how these two are delivering but are they top 10 premiership standard?

posted on 12/9/19

and let’s not forget that these guys will have automatic wage increases to the minimum premier levels - 40k plus. We get promoted and then relegated and you have an horrendous wage bill for 2/3 seasons and can’t afford to keep them and nobody wants them.

posted on 12/9/19

Dallas has been superb this season, really stepped it up.

Cooper also been superb for a few years now, this season he looks for much more composed, down to the Bielsa's work.

posted on 12/9/19

Kebab, I get you but who's to say if we do get promoted then we could look to sell the likes of Dallas to an aspiring championship club, we've tied them down and have proven championship players on offer?

posted on 12/9/19

No way will Dallas and Cooper have have automatic wage rises to £40k plus a week if we get promoted. Not a chance.

posted on 12/9/19

We go up. Dallas salary moves to 40k plus. He becomes unsellable as no champ side can afford him and he’s not a premier league starting player. Decent utility player but would get rinsed at full back at the top level and he’s not good enough as a winger in the championship - his good form is solely down to the fact he’s dropped to full back something I advocated many seasons ago.

posted on 12/9/19

comment by Kebablegs (U17699)
posted 2 minutes ago

We go up. Dallas salary moves to 40k plus. He becomes unsellable as no champ side can afford him and he’s not a premier league starting player. Decent utility player but would get rinsed at full back at the top level and he’s not good enough as a winger in the championship - his good form is solely down to the fact he’s dropped to full back something I advocated many seasons ago.

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Kebab, how do you know that his wages go up mate?

posted on 12/9/19

Got to acknowledge how much both players have improved under Bielsa. We might well look back in a few years and say that this was a good piece of business all around.

posted on 12/9/19

If we go up they should get at least the minimum wage, but if we go back down than the club should have it in their contracts that relegation brings their wages down again!..

posted on 12/9/19

I don’t for sure. It’s only an assumption but I thought every player had clauses for salary increases if promoted? It’s a reason why Towns wage bill went from 20m to 70m inside 12 months?

posted on 12/9/19

well I hope you're wrong on this one Kebab - you would of thought this was taken into consideration when the new contracts were offered?

seems madness that people guess wages and assume things (not having a pop mate), then use those assumptions to be negative?

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