comment by Dave (U11711)
posted 49 minutes ago
Well said, Finlayson! Just like with cricket.
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Me to, but t
he only trouble is, they've banned underarm bowling in cricket
I need someone smarter than me to explain to me the benefits of playing like this because I still haven't seen any so far
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Man City and Barca trophy rooms are full of silverware, that enough of a benefit of how it works?
That fosbury flop in the high jump as well. It doesn't work. My mate is an accountant and he tried the fosbury flop and just kept knocking the bar off with his bum. He was actually able to clear a higher height just jumping normally so I don't see how this fosbury flop is more effective?
Surgery. My mate had liver disease (due to being Scottish) and I tried giving him a liver transplant because apparently he needed a new one. I put a new liver in and tied it to his stomach but it did nothing and he died. He would have lived much longer without surgery so I do not see why surgery was supposedly such a good idea??
How can you give your liver and still live and your mate had transplanted your rotten liver (due to being Scottish) and yet die ?
Can anyone smarter than me explains this, as I don’t get it all
Eating. We are told how beneficial eating is to our health but so far I have seen next to no benefits. In one hole and out the other they say (should be simple apparently) but it is simply not working. I can get it in the one hole but it rarely ever comes out my mouth at the other end. This eating malarky simply does not work!
comment by kneerash-23 Cara Gold (U6876)
posted 1 hour, 2 minutes ago
comment by Shugs (U14253)
posted 34 seconds ago
comment by Vidicschin (U3584)
posted 3 minutes ago
I can see why you would play out from the back during regular play, but it is utterly idiotic to do so from goal kicks if the opposition are pressing up the field.
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I think its ridiculous... Teams are putting themselves under pressure from the start.
While i get the ball coming straight back if you go long at times at least its further from your goal
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So often the ball is punted to a forward who is surrounded by big defenders. And even if the forward wins it then there is no support to win the second ball.
Newcastle did it over and over again v us and we were back on the attack withing seconds of the goal kick.
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Their real failure is not winning the second ball... Against high pressing sides like city and Liverpool i think going long and fighting for the second ball isn't a bad approach... Instead of losing the ball close to your own goal
Suppose a lot depends on how good your cb's are on the ball
Man City and Barca trophy rooms are full of silverware, that enough of a benefit of how it works?
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Due to putting the ball in the back of the net, not farting around with it at the back.
City concede quite a lot of goals pi$$ing about at the back, for starters. Barca looked very suspect doing this when Liverpool whooped them in April.
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Seexx. It is meant to improve relationships and lead to children. It simply does not work. I have been doing it for months now and all I've got in return from her are some tightly coiled piles on the lawn and a chewed up couch. It just does not work.
When I usually take a deep breath through nostrils, usually an explosive noise comes out of the back. It’s not meant to work like this, especially when in a board meeting.
comment by The Power of Now (U20893)
posted 29 seconds ago
When I usually take a deep breath through nostrils, usually an explosive noise comes out of the back. It’s not meant to work like this, especially when in a board meeting.
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Stop breathing then. It clearly has no benefits and is generally a bad idea.
They didn't do it when we beat them though
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They did. Origi robbed Busquets on more than one occasion while Barca were playing it out form the back, in the first half alone.
They were totally unsettled by this.
comment by Finlay Robertson (U1734)
posted 6 minutes ago
comment by The Power of Now (U20893)
posted 29 seconds ago
When I usually take a deep breath through nostrils, usually an explosive noise comes out of the back. It’s not meant to work like this, especially when in a board meeting.
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Stop breathing then. It clearly has no benefits and is generally a bad idea.
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A terrible idea, or a bad advise I should say
OP, the statistics are clear. Playing out from the back results in less goals conceded than lumping it long.
You’re looking at it wrong by thinking purely of the risk the team in possession puts themselves in by playing it out from the back, and thus, the risk of putting the opponent straight through on goal when they lose possession.
The reason why it’s done, is that lumping it long results in losing possession at a far higher rate than ever before. Teams don’t have big strikers to compete with the CBs like 15 years ago, it’s so hard to keep the ball when lumping it long. Thus, every time you give the ball away by doing this, you give your opponent the chance to score.
Passing it out the back may concede a goal 1 in 20 times from a mistake. But lumping it long will concede a goal at a greater rate. Therefore it’s worth the ‘risk’ of playing it out as you’re less likely to concede overall.
If flying is so safe and efficient, how come we only ever see plane crashes in the news and never stories about safe landings? Doesn't look very safe to me.
comment by JHernandezMUFC (U18093)
posted 43 seconds ago
OP, the statistics are clear. Playing out from the back results in less goals conceded than lumping it long.
You’re looking at it wrong by thinking purely of the risk the team in possession puts themselves in by playing it out from the back, and thus, the risk of putting the opponent straight through on goal when they lose possession.
The reason why it’s done, is that lumping it long results in losing possession at a far higher rate than ever before. Teams don’t have big strikers to compete with the CBs like 15 years ago, it’s so hard to keep the ball when lumping it long. Thus, every time you give the ball away by doing this, you give your opponent the chance to score.
Passing it out the back may concede a goal 1 in 20 times from a mistake. But lumping it long will concede a goal at a greater rate. Therefore it’s worth the ‘risk’ of playing it out as you’re less likely to concede overall.
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Ridiculous. My eyes are showing me something different. You have to admit it looks utterly ridiculous when you concede a goal playing like that. Ask City and Arsenal from this past weekend
Any other suggestions of a lesser impossible ordeals than that Barry ?
Hi City and Arsenal, how do you feel?
It just goes to show that Laporte was a bad buy from City.
Surely it’s obvious why teams do it? If the opposition is committing people forward to press your defence, then if you can play through it they will be left exposed and vulnerable defensively.
The trick is to mix it up a bit so it’s not predictable, but also to actually have defenders capable of playing that way.
Seems Arsenal don’t which makes it confusing why Emery is so insistent on doing it.
comment by Finlay Robertson (U1734)
posted 10 minutes ago
Hi City and Arsenal, how do you feel?
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For some strange reasons, Arsenal felt too scared of Watford, whereas City felt too confident of outscoring the opposition.
Its a huge waste of time as 99/100, the keeper has to panic clear it up the pitch anyway. Leeds do it really well though, we make it look so easy and we have scored goals starting from the back 4 playing keep ball. Still its high risk low reward. Whatever was wrong with goalkicks......
comment by Randomer (U5245)
posted 4 minutes ago
Surely it’s obvious why teams do it? If the opposition is committing people forward to press your defence, then if you can play through it they will be left exposed and vulnerable defensively.
The trick is to mix it up a bit so it’s not predictable, but also to actually have defenders capable of playing that way.
Seems Arsenal don’t which makes it confusing why Emery is so insistent on doing it.
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So are you saying I should continue my career as an amateur surgeon or just try other things alongside in case the patient expects it to be me every time? I guess there needs to be that element of surprise and unpredictability. I shall persist part time. Not all of the time. Thanks.
comment by Randomer (U5245)
posted 1 hour, 25 minutes ago
Surely it’s obvious why teams do it? If the opposition is committing people forward to press your defence, then if you can play through it they will be left exposed and vulnerable defensively.
The trick is to mix it up a bit so it’s not predictable, but also to actually have defenders capable of playing that way.
Seems Arsenal don’t which makes it confusing why Emery is so insistent on doing it.
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But how often does it work? It seems to me that more often than not you lose possession in a dangerous area and even end up conceding a goal or two
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posted on 16/9/19
comment by Dave (U11711)
posted 49 minutes ago
Well said, Finlayson! Just like with cricket.
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Me to, but t
he only trouble is, they've banned underarm bowling in cricket
posted on 16/9/19
I need someone smarter than me to explain to me the benefits of playing like this because I still haven't seen any so far
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Man City and Barca trophy rooms are full of silverware, that enough of a benefit of how it works?
posted on 16/9/19
That fosbury flop in the high jump as well. It doesn't work. My mate is an accountant and he tried the fosbury flop and just kept knocking the bar off with his bum. He was actually able to clear a higher height just jumping normally so I don't see how this fosbury flop is more effective?
posted on 16/9/19
Surgery. My mate had liver disease (due to being Scottish) and I tried giving him a liver transplant because apparently he needed a new one. I put a new liver in and tied it to his stomach but it did nothing and he died. He would have lived much longer without surgery so I do not see why surgery was supposedly such a good idea??
posted on 16/9/19
How can you give your liver and still live and your mate had transplanted your rotten liver (due to being Scottish) and yet die ?
Can anyone smarter than me explains this, as I don’t get it all
posted on 16/9/19
Eating. We are told how beneficial eating is to our health but so far I have seen next to no benefits. In one hole and out the other they say (should be simple apparently) but it is simply not working. I can get it in the one hole but it rarely ever comes out my mouth at the other end. This eating malarky simply does not work!
posted on 16/9/19
comment by kneerash-23 Cara Gold (U6876)
posted 1 hour, 2 minutes ago
comment by Shugs (U14253)
posted 34 seconds ago
comment by Vidicschin (U3584)
posted 3 minutes ago
I can see why you would play out from the back during regular play, but it is utterly idiotic to do so from goal kicks if the opposition are pressing up the field.
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I think its ridiculous... Teams are putting themselves under pressure from the start.
While i get the ball coming straight back if you go long at times at least its further from your goal
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So often the ball is punted to a forward who is surrounded by big defenders. And even if the forward wins it then there is no support to win the second ball.
Newcastle did it over and over again v us and we were back on the attack withing seconds of the goal kick.
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Their real failure is not winning the second ball... Against high pressing sides like city and Liverpool i think going long and fighting for the second ball isn't a bad approach... Instead of losing the ball close to your own goal
Suppose a lot depends on how good your cb's are on the ball
posted on 16/9/19
Man City and Barca trophy rooms are full of silverware, that enough of a benefit of how it works?
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Due to putting the ball in the back of the net, not farting around with it at the back.
City concede quite a lot of goals pi$$ing about at the back, for starters. Barca looked very suspect doing this when Liverpool whooped them in April.
posted on 16/9/19
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posted on 16/9/19
Seexx. It is meant to improve relationships and lead to children. It simply does not work. I have been doing it for months now and all I've got in return from her are some tightly coiled piles on the lawn and a chewed up couch. It just does not work.
posted on 16/9/19
When I usually take a deep breath through nostrils, usually an explosive noise comes out of the back. It’s not meant to work like this, especially when in a board meeting.
posted on 16/9/19
comment by The Power of Now (U20893)
posted 29 seconds ago
When I usually take a deep breath through nostrils, usually an explosive noise comes out of the back. It’s not meant to work like this, especially when in a board meeting.
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Stop breathing then. It clearly has no benefits and is generally a bad idea.
posted on 16/9/19
They didn't do it when we beat them though
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They did. Origi robbed Busquets on more than one occasion while Barca were playing it out form the back, in the first half alone.
They were totally unsettled by this.
posted on 16/9/19
comment by Finlay Robertson (U1734)
posted 6 minutes ago
comment by The Power of Now (U20893)
posted 29 seconds ago
When I usually take a deep breath through nostrils, usually an explosive noise comes out of the back. It’s not meant to work like this, especially when in a board meeting.
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Stop breathing then. It clearly has no benefits and is generally a bad idea.
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A terrible idea, or a bad advise I should say
posted on 16/9/19
OP, the statistics are clear. Playing out from the back results in less goals conceded than lumping it long.
You’re looking at it wrong by thinking purely of the risk the team in possession puts themselves in by playing it out from the back, and thus, the risk of putting the opponent straight through on goal when they lose possession.
The reason why it’s done, is that lumping it long results in losing possession at a far higher rate than ever before. Teams don’t have big strikers to compete with the CBs like 15 years ago, it’s so hard to keep the ball when lumping it long. Thus, every time you give the ball away by doing this, you give your opponent the chance to score.
Passing it out the back may concede a goal 1 in 20 times from a mistake. But lumping it long will concede a goal at a greater rate. Therefore it’s worth the ‘risk’ of playing it out as you’re less likely to concede overall.
posted on 16/9/19
If flying is so safe and efficient, how come we only ever see plane crashes in the news and never stories about safe landings? Doesn't look very safe to me.
posted on 16/9/19
comment by JHernandezMUFC (U18093)
posted 43 seconds ago
OP, the statistics are clear. Playing out from the back results in less goals conceded than lumping it long.
You’re looking at it wrong by thinking purely of the risk the team in possession puts themselves in by playing it out from the back, and thus, the risk of putting the opponent straight through on goal when they lose possession.
The reason why it’s done, is that lumping it long results in losing possession at a far higher rate than ever before. Teams don’t have big strikers to compete with the CBs like 15 years ago, it’s so hard to keep the ball when lumping it long. Thus, every time you give the ball away by doing this, you give your opponent the chance to score.
Passing it out the back may concede a goal 1 in 20 times from a mistake. But lumping it long will concede a goal at a greater rate. Therefore it’s worth the ‘risk’ of playing it out as you’re less likely to concede overall.
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Ridiculous. My eyes are showing me something different. You have to admit it looks utterly ridiculous when you concede a goal playing like that. Ask City and Arsenal from this past weekend
posted on 16/9/19
Any other suggestions of a lesser impossible ordeals than that Barry ?
posted on 16/9/19
Hi City and Arsenal, how do you feel?
posted on 16/9/19
It just goes to show that Laporte was a bad buy from City.
posted on 16/9/19
Surely it’s obvious why teams do it? If the opposition is committing people forward to press your defence, then if you can play through it they will be left exposed and vulnerable defensively.
The trick is to mix it up a bit so it’s not predictable, but also to actually have defenders capable of playing that way.
Seems Arsenal don’t which makes it confusing why Emery is so insistent on doing it.
posted on 16/9/19
comment by Finlay Robertson (U1734)
posted 10 minutes ago
Hi City and Arsenal, how do you feel?
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For some strange reasons, Arsenal felt too scared of Watford, whereas City felt too confident of outscoring the opposition.
posted on 16/9/19
Its a huge waste of time as 99/100, the keeper has to panic clear it up the pitch anyway. Leeds do it really well though, we make it look so easy and we have scored goals starting from the back 4 playing keep ball. Still its high risk low reward. Whatever was wrong with goalkicks......
posted on 16/9/19
comment by Randomer (U5245)
posted 4 minutes ago
Surely it’s obvious why teams do it? If the opposition is committing people forward to press your defence, then if you can play through it they will be left exposed and vulnerable defensively.
The trick is to mix it up a bit so it’s not predictable, but also to actually have defenders capable of playing that way.
Seems Arsenal don’t which makes it confusing why Emery is so insistent on doing it.
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So are you saying I should continue my career as an amateur surgeon or just try other things alongside in case the patient expects it to be me every time? I guess there needs to be that element of surprise and unpredictability. I shall persist part time. Not all of the time. Thanks.
posted on 16/9/19
comment by Randomer (U5245)
posted 1 hour, 25 minutes ago
Surely it’s obvious why teams do it? If the opposition is committing people forward to press your defence, then if you can play through it they will be left exposed and vulnerable defensively.
The trick is to mix it up a bit so it’s not predictable, but also to actually have defenders capable of playing that way.
Seems Arsenal don’t which makes it confusing why Emery is so insistent on doing it.
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But how often does it work? It seems to me that more often than not you lose possession in a dangerous area and even end up conceding a goal or two
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