comment by The Process (U20671)
posted 1 minute ago
A poor or average midfield does not win a CL or finish on 97 points.
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It's just odd. You look at some of the midfields that have come up against and been beaten and still they persist. Each to their own but it seems a bit clueless to me.
comment by Greatteamswinit4times- a terrible enemy (U6008)
posted 1 hour, 8 minutes ago
Fabinho is no better than Fred
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comment by Robbing Hoody - tell me I can't and I'll show you I can (U6374)
posted 6 minutes ago
It amazes me how underrated our midfield is on here as theyre all a managers dream.
In the same breath if you asked whats the most important part of a football team most would say midfield and you dont get to be a part of a team achieving the things this Liverpool side is by being 'poor' or 'average'.
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Achieving things?
You beat serial bottlers Spurs in the champs.league thanks to a dodgy handball decision.
comment by Mr Brightside (U22216)
posted 2 seconds ago
comment by Robbing Hoody - tell me I can't and I'll show you I can (U6374)
posted 6 minutes ago
It amazes me how underrated our midfield is on here as theyre all a managers dream.
In the same breath if you asked whats the most important part of a football team most would say midfield and you dont get to be a part of a team achieving the things this Liverpool side is by being 'poor' or 'average'.
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Achieving things?
You beat serial bottlers Spurs in the champs.league thanks to a dodgy handball decision.
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This guy
comment by The Process (U20671)
posted 8 minutes ago
A poor or average midfield does not win a CL or finish on 97 points.
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It does if carried by a world class CB, very good FBs and great frontline
We just won the CL, beating Barca along the way and finished the season with 97 points and somehow our midfield is average and it was only got a penalty in the final.
It's clear you have no understanding of football.
Name your players in order of Importance to your season / achievements last season
comment by Mr Brightside (U22216)
posted 5 minutes ago
comment by The Process (U20671)
posted 8 minutes ago
A poor or average midfield does not win a CL or finish on 97 points.
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It does if carried by a world class CB, very good FBs and great frontline
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Tell me this; how do you believe the very good full backs and the great front line get the ball to do what they're good at? How do you believe we dominate possession and win the ball back all over the pitch giving us the platform to build the attacks.
Think about this very carefully.
comment by Mr Brightside (U22216)
posted 40 seconds ago
comment by Robbing Hoody - tell me I can't and I'll show you I can (U6374)
posted 6 minutes ago
It amazes me how underrated our midfield is on here as theyre all a managers dream.
In the same breath if you asked whats the most important part of a football team most would say midfield and you dont get to be a part of a team achieving the things this Liverpool side is by being 'poor' or 'average'.
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Achieving things?
You beat serial bottlers Spurs in the champs.league thanks to a dodgy handball decision.
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Yeah. Its lost one league game in 55 or something, won 14 games on the bounce, not lost a two legged tie in Europe for three years, got the third highest points total ever recorded, won the CL and literally beaten every team its faced in that time at least once bar Real Madrid (and maybe Sevilla, not sure).
I cant be assed to debate the semantics of the word achieving in this context who thinks Fabinho is no better than Fred.
comment by Mr Brightside (U22216)
posted 49 seconds ago
Name your players in order of Importance to your season / achievements last season
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How do you even begin to do that?
I'd say Firmino first but to list them in order is impossible considering they all had vital roles which gave others the platform to perform in their roles.
comment by There'sOnlyOneRed's (U1721)
posted 27 seconds ago
comment by Mr Brightside (U22216)
posted 5 minutes ago
comment by The Process (U20671)
posted 8 minutes ago
A poor or average midfield does not win a CL or finish on 97 points.
----------------------------------------------------------------------
It does if carried by a world class CB, very good FBs and great frontline
----------------------------------------------------------------------
Tell me this; how do you believe the very good full backs and the great front line get the ball to do what they're good at? How do you believe we dominate possession and win the ball back all over the pitch giving us the platform to build the attacks.
Think about this very carefully.
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Sweeper keeper and a high press from your forwards
Plus VVD pinging the ball about
comment by There'sOnlyOneRed's (U1721)
posted 7 seconds ago
comment by Mr Brightside (U22216)
posted 49 seconds ago
Name your players in order of Importance to your season / achievements last season
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How do you even begin to do that?
I'd say Firmino first but to list them in order is impossible considering they all had vital roles which gave others the platform to perform in their roles.
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However you di it, your midfielders dont makenthe first 6 or 7
comment by Mr Brightside (U22216)
posted 26 seconds ago
comment by There'sOnlyOneRed's (U1721)
posted 27 seconds ago
comment by Mr Brightside (U22216)
posted 5 minutes ago
comment by The Process (U20671)
posted 8 minutes ago
A poor or average midfield does not win a CL or finish on 97 points.
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It does if carried by a world class CB, very good FBs and great frontline
----------------------------------------------------------------------
Tell me this; how do you believe the very good full backs and the great front line get the ball to do what they're good at? How do you believe we dominate possession and win the ball back all over the pitch giving us the platform to build the attacks.
Think about this very carefully.
----------------------------------------------------------------------
Sweeper keeper and a high press from your forwards
Plus VVD pinging the ball about
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Right so we basically just bypassed the midfield and that's how we did it. Is that what you're saying?
So basically midfield isn't important as you can just bypass it, as long as you have a sweeper keeper, a defender who can pass the ball and a good attack.
Interesting.
comment by Mr Brightside (U22216)
posted 1 minute ago
comment by There'sOnlyOneRed's (U1721)
posted 7 seconds ago
comment by Mr Brightside (U22216)
posted 49 seconds ago
Name your players in order of Importance to your season / achievements last season
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How do you even begin to do that?
I'd say Firmino first but to list them in order is impossible considering they all had vital roles which gave others the platform to perform in their roles.
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However you di it, your midfielders dont makenthe first 6 or 7
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This is the most arbitrary statement youve made so far.
answer to OP.
If we had the muck that utd have we'd have not won anything and not go near city.
While our lads might be called "functional" or "workmanlike" they do the job and put everything on the line.
I can say for sure if Pogba was playing barca he'd have given up after 10mins and not bothered turn up for the second leg at anfield.
Sadly, it's fairly clear Liverpool have the better midfield. The OP is making the mistake of comparing them individually rather than as a unit.
Sweeper keeper and a high press from your forwards
Plus VVD pinging the ball about
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I would pay money to see you give a tactics talk on high pressing I reckon.
Alison
VVD
Robertson
TAA
Salah
Mane
Firmino
Yeah, the midfield is key 🤣
comment by manusince52 (U9692)
posted 9 seconds ago
Sadly, it's fairly clear Liverpool have the better midfield. The OP is making the mistake of comparing them individually rather than as a unit.
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Yes but even individually they are better. Certainly none of them world class but all better than United's midfield with the exception of Pogba, a few games a season.
Fabinho is better than Mctominay, who I like and Matic who is done.
Henderson is better than Fred.
Wijnaldum overall better than Pogba as Pogba doesnt put the effort in the get consistency. Talent is not enough, look at Balotelli.
But and this is the biggest reason why they are better, they perform the roles they are given within the system they are given, much better than their United counterparts do in the roles they are given within their system. If only RDD had a bit of understanding of football he'd realise this.
comment by Mr Brightside (U22216)
posted 17 minutes ago
comment by The Process (U20671)
posted 8 minutes ago
A poor or average midfield does not win a CL or finish on 97 points.
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It does if carried by a world class CB, very good FBs and great frontline
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No it doesn't.
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comment by manusince52 (U9692)
posted 3 minutes ago
Sadly, it's fairly clear Liverpool have the better midfield. The OP is making the mistake of comparing them individually rather than as a unit.
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Because they are individuals. Or are their individual abilities not important?
comment by Mr Brightside (U22216)
posted 30 seconds ago
comment by manusince52 (U9692)
posted 3 minutes ago
Sadly, it's fairly clear Liverpool have the better midfield. The OP is making the mistake of comparing them individually rather than as a unit.
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Because they are individuals. Or are their individual abilities not important?
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Pogba is an individual, yet your midfield is crap. What's the deal here?
Yeah calling it crap is being too generous.
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comment by The Process (U20671)
posted 1 minute ago
A poor or average midfield does not win a CL or finish on 97 points.
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It's just odd. You look at some of the midfields that have come up against and been beaten and still they persist. Each to their own but it seems a bit clueless to me.
posted on 16/9/19
comment by Greatteamswinit4times- a terrible enemy (U6008)
posted 1 hour, 8 minutes ago
Fabinho is no better than Fred
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posted on 16/9/19
comment by Robbing Hoody - tell me I can't and I'll show you I can (U6374)
posted 6 minutes ago
It amazes me how underrated our midfield is on here as theyre all a managers dream.
In the same breath if you asked whats the most important part of a football team most would say midfield and you dont get to be a part of a team achieving the things this Liverpool side is by being 'poor' or 'average'.
----------------------------------------------------------------------
Achieving things?
You beat serial bottlers Spurs in the champs.league thanks to a dodgy handball decision.
posted on 16/9/19
comment by Mr Brightside (U22216)
posted 2 seconds ago
comment by Robbing Hoody - tell me I can't and I'll show you I can (U6374)
posted 6 minutes ago
It amazes me how underrated our midfield is on here as theyre all a managers dream.
In the same breath if you asked whats the most important part of a football team most would say midfield and you dont get to be a part of a team achieving the things this Liverpool side is by being 'poor' or 'average'.
----------------------------------------------------------------------
Achieving things?
You beat serial bottlers Spurs in the champs.league thanks to a dodgy handball decision.
----------------------------------------------------------------------
This guy
posted on 16/9/19
comment by The Process (U20671)
posted 8 minutes ago
A poor or average midfield does not win a CL or finish on 97 points.
----------------------------------------------------------------------
It does if carried by a world class CB, very good FBs and great frontline
posted on 16/9/19
We just won the CL, beating Barca along the way and finished the season with 97 points and somehow our midfield is average and it was only got a penalty in the final.
It's clear you have no understanding of football.
posted on 16/9/19
Name your players in order of Importance to your season / achievements last season
posted on 16/9/19
comment by Mr Brightside (U22216)
posted 5 minutes ago
comment by The Process (U20671)
posted 8 minutes ago
A poor or average midfield does not win a CL or finish on 97 points.
----------------------------------------------------------------------
It does if carried by a world class CB, very good FBs and great frontline
----------------------------------------------------------------------
Tell me this; how do you believe the very good full backs and the great front line get the ball to do what they're good at? How do you believe we dominate possession and win the ball back all over the pitch giving us the platform to build the attacks.
Think about this very carefully.
posted on 16/9/19
comment by Mr Brightside (U22216)
posted 40 seconds ago
comment by Robbing Hoody - tell me I can't and I'll show you I can (U6374)
posted 6 minutes ago
It amazes me how underrated our midfield is on here as theyre all a managers dream.
In the same breath if you asked whats the most important part of a football team most would say midfield and you dont get to be a part of a team achieving the things this Liverpool side is by being 'poor' or 'average'.
----------------------------------------------------------------------
Achieving things?
You beat serial bottlers Spurs in the champs.league thanks to a dodgy handball decision.
----------------------------------------------------------------------
Yeah. Its lost one league game in 55 or something, won 14 games on the bounce, not lost a two legged tie in Europe for three years, got the third highest points total ever recorded, won the CL and literally beaten every team its faced in that time at least once bar Real Madrid (and maybe Sevilla, not sure).
I cant be assed to debate the semantics of the word achieving in this context who thinks Fabinho is no better than Fred.
posted on 16/9/19
comment by Mr Brightside (U22216)
posted 49 seconds ago
Name your players in order of Importance to your season / achievements last season
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How do you even begin to do that?
I'd say Firmino first but to list them in order is impossible considering they all had vital roles which gave others the platform to perform in their roles.
posted on 16/9/19
comment by There'sOnlyOneRed's (U1721)
posted 27 seconds ago
comment by Mr Brightside (U22216)
posted 5 minutes ago
comment by The Process (U20671)
posted 8 minutes ago
A poor or average midfield does not win a CL or finish on 97 points.
----------------------------------------------------------------------
It does if carried by a world class CB, very good FBs and great frontline
----------------------------------------------------------------------
Tell me this; how do you believe the very good full backs and the great front line get the ball to do what they're good at? How do you believe we dominate possession and win the ball back all over the pitch giving us the platform to build the attacks.
Think about this very carefully.
----------------------------------------------------------------------
Sweeper keeper and a high press from your forwards
Plus VVD pinging the ball about
posted on 16/9/19
comment by There'sOnlyOneRed's (U1721)
posted 7 seconds ago
comment by Mr Brightside (U22216)
posted 49 seconds ago
Name your players in order of Importance to your season / achievements last season
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How do you even begin to do that?
I'd say Firmino first but to list them in order is impossible considering they all had vital roles which gave others the platform to perform in their roles.
----------------------------------------------------------------------
However you di it, your midfielders dont makenthe first 6 or 7
posted on 16/9/19
comment by Mr Brightside (U22216)
posted 26 seconds ago
comment by There'sOnlyOneRed's (U1721)
posted 27 seconds ago
comment by Mr Brightside (U22216)
posted 5 minutes ago
comment by The Process (U20671)
posted 8 minutes ago
A poor or average midfield does not win a CL or finish on 97 points.
----------------------------------------------------------------------
It does if carried by a world class CB, very good FBs and great frontline
----------------------------------------------------------------------
Tell me this; how do you believe the very good full backs and the great front line get the ball to do what they're good at? How do you believe we dominate possession and win the ball back all over the pitch giving us the platform to build the attacks.
Think about this very carefully.
----------------------------------------------------------------------
Sweeper keeper and a high press from your forwards
Plus VVD pinging the ball about
----------------------------------------------------------------------
Right so we basically just bypassed the midfield and that's how we did it. Is that what you're saying?
So basically midfield isn't important as you can just bypass it, as long as you have a sweeper keeper, a defender who can pass the ball and a good attack.
Interesting.
posted on 16/9/19
comment by Mr Brightside (U22216)
posted 1 minute ago
comment by There'sOnlyOneRed's (U1721)
posted 7 seconds ago
comment by Mr Brightside (U22216)
posted 49 seconds ago
Name your players in order of Importance to your season / achievements last season
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How do you even begin to do that?
I'd say Firmino first but to list them in order is impossible considering they all had vital roles which gave others the platform to perform in their roles.
----------------------------------------------------------------------
However you di it, your midfielders dont makenthe first 6 or 7
----------------------------------------------------------------------
This is the most arbitrary statement youve made so far.
posted on 16/9/19
answer to OP.
If we had the muck that utd have we'd have not won anything and not go near city.
While our lads might be called "functional" or "workmanlike" they do the job and put everything on the line.
I can say for sure if Pogba was playing barca he'd have given up after 10mins and not bothered turn up for the second leg at anfield.
posted on 16/9/19
Sadly, it's fairly clear Liverpool have the better midfield. The OP is making the mistake of comparing them individually rather than as a unit.
posted on 16/9/19
Sweeper keeper and a high press from your forwards
Plus VVD pinging the ball about
==============
I would pay money to see you give a tactics talk on high pressing I reckon.
posted on 16/9/19
Alison
VVD
Robertson
TAA
Salah
Mane
Firmino
Yeah, the midfield is key 🤣
posted on 16/9/19
comment by manusince52 (U9692)
posted 9 seconds ago
Sadly, it's fairly clear Liverpool have the better midfield. The OP is making the mistake of comparing them individually rather than as a unit.
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Yes but even individually they are better. Certainly none of them world class but all better than United's midfield with the exception of Pogba, a few games a season.
Fabinho is better than Mctominay, who I like and Matic who is done.
Henderson is better than Fred.
Wijnaldum overall better than Pogba as Pogba doesnt put the effort in the get consistency. Talent is not enough, look at Balotelli.
But and this is the biggest reason why they are better, they perform the roles they are given within the system they are given, much better than their United counterparts do in the roles they are given within their system. If only RDD had a bit of understanding of football he'd realise this.
posted on 16/9/19
comment by Mr Brightside (U22216)
posted 17 minutes ago
comment by The Process (U20671)
posted 8 minutes ago
A poor or average midfield does not win a CL or finish on 97 points.
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It does if carried by a world class CB, very good FBs and great frontline
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No it doesn't.
posted on 16/9/19
Comment deleted by Site Moderator
posted on 16/9/19
comment by manusince52 (U9692)
posted 3 minutes ago
Sadly, it's fairly clear Liverpool have the better midfield. The OP is making the mistake of comparing them individually rather than as a unit.
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Because they are individuals. Or are their individual abilities not important?
posted on 16/9/19
comment by Mr Brightside (U22216)
posted 30 seconds ago
comment by manusince52 (U9692)
posted 3 minutes ago
Sadly, it's fairly clear Liverpool have the better midfield. The OP is making the mistake of comparing them individually rather than as a unit.
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Because they are individuals. Or are their individual abilities not important?
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Pogba is an individual, yet your midfield is crap. What's the deal here?
posted on 16/9/19
It isnt crap though.
posted on 16/9/19
Yeah calling it crap is being too generous.
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