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posted on 20/9/19

comment by IvanGolacIsMagic (U5291)
posted 7 minutes ago
Piff

Turok - it obviously makes me ask why should they be refereed differently? Taking that argument forward though, I suspect we could then dismiss the Dundee derby from our records and that might pull us back into the crowd statistically.
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they shouldn't be refereed differently they just are

posted on 20/9/19

You can torture statistics to make them say anything that you want.

posted on 20/9/19

comment by MaHeed'sNippin aka I’m the competent Wullie Collum (U3633)
posted 2 minutes ago
You can torture statistics to make them say anything that you want.
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Like this?

Domestic
Celtic ... 51 fouls conceded: 2 yellow (25.5 fouls per card)
Europe
Celtic ... 59 fouls conceded: 15 yellow /1 red (3.6 fouls per card)

Those good European unbiased referees you all want so badly are clearly out to get you and those poor harassed Scottish faithful refs are on your side

posted on 20/9/19

comment by MaHeed'sNippin aka I’m the competent Wullie Collum (U3633)
posted 3 minutes ago
You can torture statistics to make them say anything that you want.
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No you cannae.

comment by Hector (U3606)

posted on 20/9/19

Thought it was generally accepted that now we rule the roost in Scotland on and off the field, the refs are now biased against Rangers,that Liewell runs the SFA, the SPFL and want to destroy Rangers once and for all.

I may be wrong but I thought the scottish fitba world had performed an incredible volte face since 2007

posted on 20/9/19

What a pile of absolute piish ffs

Celtic commit more fouls therefore they should be booked and sent off more. Rangers commit less and the counter argument prevails thereby being evidenced as some form of bias.

Furfuxakes; is this what it has come down to? Absolute joke.

Fouls deemed being worth a card are usually treated as such. There are always exceptions both for and against and many many more where it is borderline. Our refs aren't great but I think it is reasonable to say that they aren't great regardless of which game they officiate.

Any moaning from me is the amount of cloggers who target ball players and get away with it.

As for European football it's abundantly clear they just do not like the British game style and far less the Scottish one where any tough challenge more often than not ends up in a booking.

comment by Silver (U6112)

posted on 20/9/19

comment by I am Turok - Dinosaur Hunter (U21917)
posted 24 minutes ago
comment by MaHeed'sNippin aka I’m the competent Wullie Collum (U3633)
posted 2 minutes ago
You can torture statistics to make them say anything that you want.
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Like this?

Domestic
Celtic ... 51 fouls conceded: 2 yellow (25.5 fouls per card)
Europe
Celtic ... 59 fouls conceded: 15 yellow /1 red (3.6 fouls per card)

Those good European unbiased referees you all want so badly are clearly out to get you and those poor harassed Scottish faithful refs are on your side


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Well known fact that Euro refs are less lenient so don't know what the issue is other than Celtic have not responded to this over 60 years playing in Europe.

posted on 20/9/19

comment by HB Fash (U21935)
posted 26 minutes ago
comment by MaHeed'sNippin aka I’m the competent Wullie Collum (U3633)
posted 3 minutes ago
You can torture statistics to make them say anything that you want.
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No you cannae.
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Yes you bloody well can. As proven by the OP

posted on 20/9/19

comment by Silver (U6112)
posted 4 minutes ago
comment by I am Turok - Dinosaur Hunter (U21917)
posted 24 minutes ago
comment by MaHeed'sNippin aka I’m the competent Wullie Collum (U3633)
posted 2 minutes ago
You can torture statistics to make them say anything that you want.
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Like this?

Domestic
Celtic ... 51 fouls conceded: 2 yellow (25.5 fouls per card)
Europe
Celtic ... 59 fouls conceded: 15 yellow /1 red (3.6 fouls per card)

Those good European unbiased referees you all want so badly are clearly out to get you and those poor harassed Scottish faithful refs are on your side


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Well known fact that Euro refs are less lenient so don't know what the issue is other than Celtic have not responded to this over 60 years playing in Europe.
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Scottish refs aren't as lenient against the other 11 sides though?

posted on 20/9/19

comment by I am Turok - Dinosaur Hunter (U21917)
posted 26 seconds ago
comment by Silver (U6112)
posted 4 minutes ago
comment by I am Turok - Dinosaur Hunter (U21917)
posted 24 minutes ago
comment by MaHeed'sNippin aka I’m the competent Wullie Collum (U3633)
posted 2 minutes ago
You can torture statistics to make them say anything that you want.
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Like this?

Domestic
Celtic ... 51 fouls conceded: 2 yellow (25.5 fouls per card)
Europe
Celtic ... 59 fouls conceded: 15 yellow /1 red (3.6 fouls per card)

Those good European unbiased referees you all want so badly are clearly out to get you and those poor harassed Scottish faithful refs are on your side


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Well known fact that Euro refs are less lenient so don't know what the issue is other than Celtic have not responded to this over 60 years playing in Europe.
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Scottish refs aren't as lenient against the other 11 sides though?
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Hahahaha How on earth do you deduce that for goodness sake?

It's a mental argument to suggest leniency or dare I say bias unless you take the time to analyse every single foul or alleged foul.

Please tell me you haven't done that?

posted on 20/9/19

I think we've clearly accepted that the context is missing, and without analysing each foul and judging them on their merit then you can't draw any firm conclusions.

But it's also fair to say that Celtic are very clearly a statistical outlier which of course prompts curiosity as to why that is the case.

posted on 20/9/19

comment by IvanGolacIsMagic (U5291)
posted 21 seconds ago
I think we've clearly accepted that the context is missing, and without analysing each foul and judging them on their merit then you can't draw any firm conclusions.

But it's also fair to say that Celtic are very clearly a statistical outlier which of course prompts curiosity as to why that is the case.
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You're quite the determined one to bring in the "curious" element.

Is there something we should know?

posted on 20/9/19

comment by Gingernuts (U2992)
posted 29 seconds ago
comment by IvanGolacIsMagic (U5291)
posted 21 seconds ago
I think we've clearly accepted that the context is missing, and without analysing each foul and judging them on their merit then you can't draw any firm conclusions.

But it's also fair to say that Celtic are very clearly a statistical outlier which of course prompts curiosity as to why that is the case.
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You're quite the determined one to bring in the "curious" element.

Is there something we should know?
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I'm a curious kind of guy

posted on 20/9/19

And for a fairly understandable answer, Celtic just don't commit the sort of fouls that draw the cards as other teams seem to do.

Unless of course that's wrong and it can then only be bias.

Which one are we going for today?

posted on 20/9/19

comment by IvanGolacIsMagic (U5291)
posted 59 seconds ago
comment by Gingernuts (U2992)
posted 29 seconds ago
comment by IvanGolacIsMagic (U5291)
posted 21 seconds ago
I think we've clearly accepted that the context is missing, and without analysing each foul and judging them on their merit then you can't draw any firm conclusions.

But it's also fair to say that Celtic are very clearly a statistical outlier which of course prompts curiosity as to why that is the case.
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You're quite the determined one to bring in the "curious" element.

Is there something we should know?
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I'm a curious kind of guy
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Oh we know

comment by Magnum (U16400)

posted on 20/9/19

comment by IvanGolacIsMagic (U5291)
posted 10 seconds ago
I think we've clearly accepted that the context is missing, and without analysing each foul and judging them on their merit then you can't draw any firm conclusions.

But it's also fair to say that Celtic are very clearly a statistical outlier which of course prompts curiosity as to why that is the case.
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Correct....3 trebles in a row is definitely a statistical analysis.

Anyway, I now completely accept that Celtic and the wider Catholic cult now run Scotland, the SNP, Police Scotland, the Justiciary, the media, the referees and, indeed, all football in this country.

The question is...how did Rangers manage to lose all of that and fack things up so spectacularly.

posted on 20/9/19

comment by Gingernuts (U2992)
posted 3 minutes ago
And for a fairly understandable answer, Celtic just don't commit the sort of fouls that draw the cards as other teams seem to do.

Unless of course that's wrong and it can then only be bias.

Which one are we going for today?
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I can point you to a game at Ibrox a few weeks ago that will highlight several instances of fouls that merited bookings

posted on 20/9/19

If anything this proves a bias against Celtic;

51 fouls committed of which only 2 were worthy of a card.

Clearly the refs are blowing for fouls against celtic players that are not actually fouls.

A particular favorite for this kind of bias is when a corner is taking place and the exact cause can be classed as ambiguous.

Stats can tell any story you wish..............

Also to quote stats based on a sample size of 5 games is sheer stupidity of the highest order.

posted on 20/9/19

comment by I am Turok - Dinosaur Hunter (U21917)
posted 35 seconds ago
comment by Gingernuts (U2992)
posted 3 minutes ago
And for a fairly understandable answer, Celtic just don't commit the sort of fouls that draw the cards as other teams seem to do.

Unless of course that's wrong and it can then only be bias.

Which one are we going for today?
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I can point you to a game at Ibrox a few weeks ago that will highlight several instances of fouls that merited bookings
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I'm sure you can and I'll go so far as to say that any fan could point you to any game where they hold that same opinion.

I notice you didn't mention as to whether those bookings or sending offs were for or against Rangers mind.

Because if it's for Rangers it would widen the gap against Celtic inferring even more bias but then if it's against Rangers then those other teams you would extrapolate are being even more unfairly dealt with.

That's how stupid it is to make assessments and judgments on one set of statistical criteria, so again which is it; bias or not?

posted on 20/9/19

Stats in all sports are utter nonsense apart from the one stat that matters the score.

Same with rankings, Ireland are the number 1 Rugby Union side, will they win the RWC, no.

posted on 20/9/19

I always wonder how threads like this would go if the stats were the other way around. I'm sure it would be exactly the same people saying exactly the same thing.

posted on 20/9/19

comment by IvanGolacIsMagic (U5291)
posted 2 minutes ago
I always wonder how threads like this would go if the stats were the other way around. I'm sure it would be exactly the same people saying exactly the same thing.
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comment by Silver (U6112)

posted on 20/9/19

comment by Lexballielegend (U8325)
posted 14 minutes ago
Stats in all sports are utter nonsense apart from the one stat that matters the score.
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Wow, there are lots of companies making millions out of said nonsense

posted on 20/9/19

Stat lovers here's one for you, Rangers have not won a major trophy for so long I can barely remember when it was and who was the captain that lifted said trophy

comment by lauders (U9757)

posted on 20/9/19

comment by IvanGolacIsMagic (U5291)
posted 36 minutes ago
I always wonder how threads like this would go if the stats were the other way around. I'm sure it would be exactly the same people saying exactly the same thing.
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Oh he's good

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