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Today’s verdict came as no surprise to any person with a sense of justice. Boris is a serial liar and a bully. The nation knows it and want shot of the fat entitled buffoon
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What a load of absolute nonsense
Everyone to almost a man was shocked at the decision.
Did you not listen to the news or read any reports?
I don't believe you even believe what you've just written
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Sorry mate you are so wrong on this. I think you are becoming more desperate as the Hard Brexit slips away and you have to run home with your tail between your legs. 😃
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Aye ok This is me running away.
Every single reporter and journalist have expressed nothing but shock at this decision.
Some may claim to be itk but they are just revelling in their "win".
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Hence the reason that Corbyn now has to reorganise and bring forward his closing speech to the party conference...*pesky facts
Thomas cook was an analogue business in a digital age.
They got left behind long ago. Glad we never bailed them out for them to need another one in a year.
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comment by MaHeed'sNippin aka I’m the competen... (U3633)
posted 40 seconds ago
Today’s verdict came as no surprise to any person with a sense of justice. Boris is a serial liar and a bully. The nation knows it and want shot of the fat entitled buffoon
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What a load of absolute nonsense
Everyone to almost a man was shocked at the decision.
Did you not listen to the news or read any reports?
I don't believe you even believe what you've just written
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Sorry mate you are so wrong on this. I think you are becoming more desperate as the Hard Brexit slips away and you have to run home with your tail between your legs. 😃
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Aye ok This is me running away.
Every single reporter and journalist have expressed nothing but shock at this decision.
Some may claim to be itk but they are just revelling in their "win".
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Hence the reason that Corbyn now has to reorganise and bring forward his closing speech to the party conference...*pesky facts
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Oh please don't
Everyone knew this was going to be the result
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posted 19 seconds ago
Thomas cook was an analogue business in a digital age.
They got left behind long ago. Glad we never bailed them out for them to need another one in a year.
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Fully agree
Good money after bad
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Thomas cook was an analogue business in a digital age.
They got left behind long ago. Glad we never bailed them out for them to need another one in a year.
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Fully agree
Good money after bad
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This I agree....far too many high St shops...huge error
So Bully Bojo tries to act above the law and the will of Parliament and gets found out. No shock whatsoever. Anyone with a sense of decency in that situation would resign but we are talking about Bojo here.
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comment by NNH (U10730)
posted 3 minutes ago
He confirmed he won't resign and that he'll respect the count decision.
Pushing on to leave on October 31st.
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That is so not happening now
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ffs
Why not?
What has actually changed?
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If he stays within the law the only way to leave is if he gets a deal.
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Firstly that "law" is so badly written as a direct result of the hastiness of its invention so much so that parliament will likely spend quite a bit of its time trying to close the many loopholes.
Secondly and more importantly he can try for a deal but the default position is that if he doesn't get one we are out.
Thirdly, it is the decision of only the EU if we get an extension and we would have to abide by their rules if it was granted so what happens if they say "here's your 2 year extension; it will cost you £1bn a week and you must have a different government and an answer to the backstop or you stay in for another 2 years"?
All completely unacceptable to anyone
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He would still have to agree to it though
Contempt of court if not.
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No.
He is required to come back with a deal. Parliament will decide on whether to accept it or not. I think it's been very clear that the MP cannot agree anything without the consent of parliament.
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Yes but if instructed to agree, he has to do just that.
Which is obviously the strategy of the other parties to make him do that just before an election. Death by 1000 cuts.
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WM with its 2 houses and all the formal traditional schite needing run past a monarch who is nothing but a figurehead, a figurehead after Cameron's revelation that will be as welcome as a fert in a lift in Scotland is utterly antiquated.
A democratically elected President of a Republic is what we need, with a written constitution.
Mon the ROS (Republic of Scotland)
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One step at a time.
That's the kind of argument that could cost you independence, you wait until that's achieved before stage 2.
Try this
https://www.theguardian.com/business/2017/feb/09/thomas-cook-cuts-boss-payout-shareholders-revolt
Try this
https://www.theneweuropean.co.uk/top-stories/is-the-anti-tax-avoidance-directive-the-reason-the-rich-want-out-of-eu-1-5669763
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comment by NNH (U10730)
posted 3 minutes ago
He confirmed he won't resign and that he'll respect the count decision.
Pushing on to leave on October 31st.
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That is so not happening now
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ffs
Why not?
What has actually changed?
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If he stays within the law the only way to leave is if he gets a deal.
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Firstly that "law" is so badly written as a direct result of the hastiness of its invention so much so that parliament will likely spend quite a bit of its time trying to close the many loopholes.
Secondly and more importantly he can try for a deal but the default position is that if he doesn't get one we are out.
Thirdly, it is the decision of only the EU if we get an extension and we would have to abide by their rules if it was granted so what happens if they say "here's your 2 year extension; it will cost you £1bn a week and you must have a different government and an answer to the backstop or you stay in for another 2 years"?
All completely unacceptable to anyone
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He would still have to agree to it though
Contempt of court if not.
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No.
He is required to come back with a deal. Parliament will decide on whether to accept it or not. I think it's been very clear that the MP cannot agree anything without the consent of parliament.
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Yes but if instructed to agree, he has to do just that.
Which is obviously the strategy of the other parties to make him do that just before an election. Death by 1000 cuts.
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Who in their right mind would agree to that?
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comment by NNH (U10730)
posted 3 minutes ago
He confirmed he won't resign and that he'll respect the count decision.
Pushing on to leave on October 31st.
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That is so not happening now
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ffs
Why not?
What has actually changed?
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If he stays within the law the only way to leave is if he gets a deal.
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Firstly that "law" is so badly written as a direct result of the hastiness of its invention so much so that parliament will likely spend quite a bit of its time trying to close the many loopholes.
Secondly and more importantly he can try for a deal but the default position is that if he doesn't get one we are out.
Thirdly, it is the decision of only the EU if we get an extension and we would have to abide by their rules if it was granted so what happens if they say "here's your 2 year extension; it will cost you £1bn a week and you must have a different government and an answer to the backstop or you stay in for another 2 years"?
All completely unacceptable to anyone
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He would still have to agree to it though
Contempt of court if not.
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No.
He is required to come back with a deal. Parliament will decide on whether to accept it or not. I think it's been very clear that the MP cannot agree anything without the consent of parliament.
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Yes but if instructed to agree, he has to do just that.
Which is obviously the strategy of the other parties to make him do that just before an election. Death by 1000 cuts.
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Who in their right mind would agree to that?
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your example was a tad extreme but if the conditions for extending are the same or not massively worse he's going to be forced by Parliament to do it.
I think the next big talking point is what on earth the "Rebel Alliance" do tomorrow....Going to be a bit of a damp squib for them if they have nothing lined up to pile more pressure on.
Some Tory sources are now saying they might abandon the no deal option altogether.....
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comment by NNH (U10730)
posted 3 minutes ago
He confirmed he won't resign and that he'll respect the count decision.
Pushing on to leave on October 31st.
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That is so not happening now
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ffs
Why not?
What has actually changed?
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If he stays within the law the only way to leave is if he gets a deal.
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Firstly that "law" is so badly written as a direct result of the hastiness of its invention so much so that parliament will likely spend quite a bit of its time trying to close the many loopholes.
Secondly and more importantly he can try for a deal but the default position is that if he doesn't get one we are out.
Thirdly, it is the decision of only the EU if we get an extension and we would have to abide by their rules if it was granted so what happens if they say "here's your 2 year extension; it will cost you £1bn a week and you must have a different government and an answer to the backstop or you stay in for another 2 years"?
All completely unacceptable to anyone
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He would still have to agree to it though
Contempt of court if not.
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No.
He is required to come back with a deal. Parliament will decide on whether to accept it or not. I think it's been very clear that the MP cannot agree anything without the consent of parliament.
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Yes but if instructed to agree, he has to do just that.
Which is obviously the strategy of the other parties to make him do that just before an election. Death by 1000 cuts.
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Who in their right mind would agree to that?
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your example was a tad extreme but if the conditions for extending are the same or not massively worse he's going to be forced by Parliament to do it.
I think the next big talking point is what on earth the "Rebel Alliance" do tomorrow....Going to be a bit of a damp squib for them if they have nothing lined up to pile more pressure on.
Some Tory sources are now saying they might abandon the no deal option altogether.....
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Yeah it was but you get my drift.
Essentially parliament have to agree to it and I think no matter what he comes back with; they just won't accept it.
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posted 31 seconds ago
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posted 2 minutes ago
comment by Sheriff JW Pepper (U1007)
posted 2 minutes ago
comment by NNH (U10730)
posted 3 minutes ago
He confirmed he won't resign and that he'll respect the count decision.
Pushing on to leave on October 31st.
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That is so not happening now
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ffs
Why not?
What has actually changed?
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If he stays within the law the only way to leave is if he gets a deal.
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Firstly that "law" is so badly written as a direct result of the hastiness of its invention so much so that parliament will likely spend quite a bit of its time trying to close the many loopholes.
Secondly and more importantly he can try for a deal but the default position is that if he doesn't get one we are out.
Thirdly, it is the decision of only the EU if we get an extension and we would have to abide by their rules if it was granted so what happens if they say "here's your 2 year extension; it will cost you £1bn a week and you must have a different government and an answer to the backstop or you stay in for another 2 years"?
All completely unacceptable to anyone
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He would still have to agree to it though
Contempt of court if not.
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No.
He is required to come back with a deal. Parliament will decide on whether to accept it or not. I think it's been very clear that the MP cannot agree anything without the consent of parliament.
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Yes but if instructed to agree, he has to do just that.
Which is obviously the strategy of the other parties to make him do that just before an election. Death by 1000 cuts.
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Who in their right mind would agree to that?
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your example was a tad extreme but if the conditions for extending are the same or not massively worse he's going to be forced by Parliament to do it.
I think the next big talking point is what on earth the "Rebel Alliance" do tomorrow....Going to be a bit of a damp squib for them if they have nothing lined up to pile more pressure on.
Some Tory sources are now saying they might abandon the no deal option altogether.....
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Yeah it was but you get my drift.
Essentially parliament have to agree to it and I think no matter what he comes back with; they just won't accept it.
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I tend to agree because whisper this quietly the sensible MPs have no intention of actually leaving but we also can't scrap it too easily.
We need to make it look really difficult then scrap it.
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Right
To save me going through 140 comments and understanding nothing apart from slating Tories and Ginger getting annoyed at repeating himself can someone in lay terms explain what this actually means with the illegal stooping of parliament and now it being back in
My lay thinking
Is Boris a law breaker
Is Brexit fvcked as a result
Does it actually change anything?
Why did Celtic play Milan a week early?
Where do babies come from?
Thanks in advance
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comment by Gingernuts (U2992)
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posted 1 minute ago
comment by Gingernuts (U2992)
posted 2 minutes ago
comment by MaHeed'sNippin aka I’m the competen... (U3633)
posted 40 seconds ago
Today’s verdict came as no surprise to any person with a sense of justice. Boris is a serial liar and a bully. The nation knows it and want shot of the fat entitled buffoon
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What a load of absolute nonsense
Everyone to almost a man was shocked at the decision.
Did you not listen to the news or read any reports?
I don't believe you even believe what you've just written
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Sorry mate you are so wrong on this. I think you are becoming more desperate as the Hard Brexit slips away and you have to run home with your tail between your legs. 😃
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Aye ok This is me running away.
Every single reporter and journalist have expressed nothing but shock at this decision.
Some may claim to be itk but they are just revelling in their "win".
----------------------------------------------------------------------
Hence the reason that Corbyn now has to reorganise and bring forward his closing speech to the party conference...*pesky facts
posted on 24/9/19
Thomas cook was an analogue business in a digital age.
They got left behind long ago. Glad we never bailed them out for them to need another one in a year.
posted on 24/9/19
comment by I'm not as think as you drunk I am.......... (U2115)
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posted 1 minute ago
comment by Gingernuts (U2992)
posted 2 minutes ago
comment by MaHeed'sNippin aka I’m the competen... (U3633)
posted 40 seconds ago
Today’s verdict came as no surprise to any person with a sense of justice. Boris is a serial liar and a bully. The nation knows it and want shot of the fat entitled buffoon
----------------------------------------------------------------------
What a load of absolute nonsense
Everyone to almost a man was shocked at the decision.
Did you not listen to the news or read any reports?
I don't believe you even believe what you've just written
----------------------------------------------------------------------
Sorry mate you are so wrong on this. I think you are becoming more desperate as the Hard Brexit slips away and you have to run home with your tail between your legs. 😃
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Aye ok This is me running away.
Every single reporter and journalist have expressed nothing but shock at this decision.
Some may claim to be itk but they are just revelling in their "win".
----------------------------------------------------------------------
Hence the reason that Corbyn now has to reorganise and bring forward his closing speech to the party conference...*pesky facts
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Oh please don't
Everyone knew this was going to be the result
posted on 24/9/19
comment by HB Fash (U21935)
posted 19 seconds ago
Thomas cook was an analogue business in a digital age.
They got left behind long ago. Glad we never bailed them out for them to need another one in a year.
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Fully agree
Good money after bad
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comment by Gingernuts (U2992)
posted 13 seconds ago
comment by HB Fash (U21935)
posted 19 seconds ago
Thomas cook was an analogue business in a digital age.
They got left behind long ago. Glad we never bailed them out for them to need another one in a year.
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Fully agree
Good money after bad
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This I agree....far too many high St shops...huge error
posted on 24/9/19
So Bully Bojo tries to act above the law and the will of Parliament and gets found out. No shock whatsoever. Anyone with a sense of decency in that situation would resign but we are talking about Bojo here.
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posted 31 seconds ago
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posted 2 minutes ago
comment by Sheriff JW Pepper (U1007)
posted 2 minutes ago
comment by NNH (U10730)
posted 3 minutes ago
He confirmed he won't resign and that he'll respect the count decision.
Pushing on to leave on October 31st.
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That is so not happening now
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ffs
Why not?
What has actually changed?
----------------------------------------------------------------------
If he stays within the law the only way to leave is if he gets a deal.
----------------------------------------------------------------------
Firstly that "law" is so badly written as a direct result of the hastiness of its invention so much so that parliament will likely spend quite a bit of its time trying to close the many loopholes.
Secondly and more importantly he can try for a deal but the default position is that if he doesn't get one we are out.
Thirdly, it is the decision of only the EU if we get an extension and we would have to abide by their rules if it was granted so what happens if they say "here's your 2 year extension; it will cost you £1bn a week and you must have a different government and an answer to the backstop or you stay in for another 2 years"?
All completely unacceptable to anyone
----------------------------------------------------------------------
He would still have to agree to it though
Contempt of court if not.
----------------------------------------------------------------------
No.
He is required to come back with a deal. Parliament will decide on whether to accept it or not. I think it's been very clear that the MP cannot agree anything without the consent of parliament.
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Yes but if instructed to agree, he has to do just that.
Which is obviously the strategy of the other parties to make him do that just before an election. Death by 1000 cuts.
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comment by Lexballielegend (U8325)
posted 4 seconds ago
WM with its 2 houses and all the formal traditional schite needing run past a monarch who is nothing but a figurehead, a figurehead after Cameron's revelation that will be as welcome as a fert in a lift in Scotland is utterly antiquated.
A democratically elected President of a Republic is what we need, with a written constitution.
Mon the ROS (Republic of Scotland)
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One step at a time.
That's the kind of argument that could cost you independence, you wait until that's achieved before stage 2.
posted on 24/9/19
Try this
https://www.theguardian.com/business/2017/feb/09/thomas-cook-cuts-boss-payout-shareholders-revolt
posted on 24/9/19
Try this
https://www.theneweuropean.co.uk/top-stories/is-the-anti-tax-avoidance-directive-the-reason-the-rich-want-out-of-eu-1-5669763
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comment by Sheriff JW Pepper (U1007)
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comment by NNH (U10730)
posted 3 minutes ago
He confirmed he won't resign and that he'll respect the count decision.
Pushing on to leave on October 31st.
----------------------------------------------------------------------
That is so not happening now
----------------------------------------------------------------------
ffs
Why not?
What has actually changed?
----------------------------------------------------------------------
If he stays within the law the only way to leave is if he gets a deal.
----------------------------------------------------------------------
Firstly that "law" is so badly written as a direct result of the hastiness of its invention so much so that parliament will likely spend quite a bit of its time trying to close the many loopholes.
Secondly and more importantly he can try for a deal but the default position is that if he doesn't get one we are out.
Thirdly, it is the decision of only the EU if we get an extension and we would have to abide by their rules if it was granted so what happens if they say "here's your 2 year extension; it will cost you £1bn a week and you must have a different government and an answer to the backstop or you stay in for another 2 years"?
All completely unacceptable to anyone
----------------------------------------------------------------------
He would still have to agree to it though
Contempt of court if not.
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No.
He is required to come back with a deal. Parliament will decide on whether to accept it or not. I think it's been very clear that the MP cannot agree anything without the consent of parliament.
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Yes but if instructed to agree, he has to do just that.
Which is obviously the strategy of the other parties to make him do that just before an election. Death by 1000 cuts.
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Who in their right mind would agree to that?
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comment by Sheriff JW Pepper (U1007)
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comment by NNH (U10730)
posted 3 minutes ago
He confirmed he won't resign and that he'll respect the count decision.
Pushing on to leave on October 31st.
----------------------------------------------------------------------
That is so not happening now
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ffs
Why not?
What has actually changed?
----------------------------------------------------------------------
If he stays within the law the only way to leave is if he gets a deal.
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Firstly that "law" is so badly written as a direct result of the hastiness of its invention so much so that parliament will likely spend quite a bit of its time trying to close the many loopholes.
Secondly and more importantly he can try for a deal but the default position is that if he doesn't get one we are out.
Thirdly, it is the decision of only the EU if we get an extension and we would have to abide by their rules if it was granted so what happens if they say "here's your 2 year extension; it will cost you £1bn a week and you must have a different government and an answer to the backstop or you stay in for another 2 years"?
All completely unacceptable to anyone
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He would still have to agree to it though
Contempt of court if not.
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No.
He is required to come back with a deal. Parliament will decide on whether to accept it or not. I think it's been very clear that the MP cannot agree anything without the consent of parliament.
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Yes but if instructed to agree, he has to do just that.
Which is obviously the strategy of the other parties to make him do that just before an election. Death by 1000 cuts.
----------------------------------------------------------------------
Who in their right mind would agree to that?
----------------------------------------------------------------------
your example was a tad extreme but if the conditions for extending are the same or not massively worse he's going to be forced by Parliament to do it.
I think the next big talking point is what on earth the "Rebel Alliance" do tomorrow....Going to be a bit of a damp squib for them if they have nothing lined up to pile more pressure on.
Some Tory sources are now saying they might abandon the no deal option altogether.....
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comment by Sheriff JW Pepper (U1007)
posted 2 minutes ago
comment by NNH (U10730)
posted 3 minutes ago
He confirmed he won't resign and that he'll respect the count decision.
Pushing on to leave on October 31st.
----------------------------------------------------------------------
That is so not happening now
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ffs
Why not?
What has actually changed?
----------------------------------------------------------------------
If he stays within the law the only way to leave is if he gets a deal.
----------------------------------------------------------------------
Firstly that "law" is so badly written as a direct result of the hastiness of its invention so much so that parliament will likely spend quite a bit of its time trying to close the many loopholes.
Secondly and more importantly he can try for a deal but the default position is that if he doesn't get one we are out.
Thirdly, it is the decision of only the EU if we get an extension and we would have to abide by their rules if it was granted so what happens if they say "here's your 2 year extension; it will cost you £1bn a week and you must have a different government and an answer to the backstop or you stay in for another 2 years"?
All completely unacceptable to anyone
----------------------------------------------------------------------
He would still have to agree to it though
Contempt of court if not.
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No.
He is required to come back with a deal. Parliament will decide on whether to accept it or not. I think it's been very clear that the MP cannot agree anything without the consent of parliament.
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Yes but if instructed to agree, he has to do just that.
Which is obviously the strategy of the other parties to make him do that just before an election. Death by 1000 cuts.
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Who in their right mind would agree to that?
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your example was a tad extreme but if the conditions for extending are the same or not massively worse he's going to be forced by Parliament to do it.
I think the next big talking point is what on earth the "Rebel Alliance" do tomorrow....Going to be a bit of a damp squib for them if they have nothing lined up to pile more pressure on.
Some Tory sources are now saying they might abandon the no deal option altogether.....
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Yeah it was but you get my drift.
Essentially parliament have to agree to it and I think no matter what he comes back with; they just won't accept it.
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He confirmed he won't resign and that he'll respect the count decision.
Pushing on to leave on October 31st.
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That is so not happening now
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ffs
Why not?
What has actually changed?
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If he stays within the law the only way to leave is if he gets a deal.
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Firstly that "law" is so badly written as a direct result of the hastiness of its invention so much so that parliament will likely spend quite a bit of its time trying to close the many loopholes.
Secondly and more importantly he can try for a deal but the default position is that if he doesn't get one we are out.
Thirdly, it is the decision of only the EU if we get an extension and we would have to abide by their rules if it was granted so what happens if they say "here's your 2 year extension; it will cost you £1bn a week and you must have a different government and an answer to the backstop or you stay in for another 2 years"?
All completely unacceptable to anyone
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He would still have to agree to it though
Contempt of court if not.
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No.
He is required to come back with a deal. Parliament will decide on whether to accept it or not. I think it's been very clear that the MP cannot agree anything without the consent of parliament.
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Yes but if instructed to agree, he has to do just that.
Which is obviously the strategy of the other parties to make him do that just before an election. Death by 1000 cuts.
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Who in their right mind would agree to that?
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your example was a tad extreme but if the conditions for extending are the same or not massively worse he's going to be forced by Parliament to do it.
I think the next big talking point is what on earth the "Rebel Alliance" do tomorrow....Going to be a bit of a damp squib for them if they have nothing lined up to pile more pressure on.
Some Tory sources are now saying they might abandon the no deal option altogether.....
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Yeah it was but you get my drift.
Essentially parliament have to agree to it and I think no matter what he comes back with; they just won't accept it.
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I tend to agree because whisper this quietly the sensible MPs have no intention of actually leaving but we also can't scrap it too easily.
We need to make it look really difficult then scrap it.
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Right
To save me going through 140 comments and understanding nothing apart from slating Tories and Ginger getting annoyed at repeating himself can someone in lay terms explain what this actually means with the illegal stooping of parliament and now it being back in
My lay thinking
Is Boris a law breaker
Is Brexit fvcked as a result
Does it actually change anything?
Why did Celtic play Milan a week early?
Where do babies come from?
Thanks in advance
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