comment by JonnyLosAngeles (My Dad was made in Leeds) עם ישראל חי (U9756)
posted 13 hours, 9 minutes ago
comment by milkyboy (U12731)
posted 2 hours, 43 minutes ago
I think you can’t blame the club in general for the behaviour of their players... you can question manager’s and clubs Discipline certainly... you can question what their idea of s team-building session is... but you can’t really blame them for having idiots on their staff.
However, playing them the week after the incident? Sets a terrible example.
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Yes you can blame them!
By not dealing with the perpetrators, they have condoned the behavior making similar behavior more likely.
And this is all before the poster boy for bad behavior even arrives!
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Not sure you read the last sentence Jonny.
I did, and noticed the contradiction, but chose to address the comment. 😉
No Contradiction Jonny. Clear distinction between what is blameworthy and what isn’t.
Looks like the rumour they did a runner leaving Keogh behind are true.
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Derby County footballers Tom Lawrence and Mason Bennett have pleaded guilty to drink-driving.
The pair were charged after a Range Rover Sport and Mercedes GLC crashed in Derby after a team-building dinner.
At the city's magistrates' court they also admitted failing to stop at the scene of the crash on 24 September.
The court heard Lawrence, 25, gave a breath test reading of 58mcg per 100ml and Bennett a reading of 64. The legal limit is 35mcg per 100ml.
Marianne Connally, prosecuting, said the players were driving home at about 23:30 BST after a night out at the Joiner's Arms pub.
A car driven by Welsh international Lawrence crashed into the back of Bennett's on the A6 in Allestree.
Lawrence's car then went across a roundabout before smashing into "street furniture", the prosecutor added.
Ms Connally said a paramedic crew witnessed the crash "entirely by chance" and came to the aid of two passengers at the scene as the defendants fled.
Lawrence and Bennett, 23, returned to the scene about 45 minutes later and were arrested.
Derby captain Richard Keogh, who was a passenger in one of the cars, sustained a knee injury that has ruled him out for up to 15 months.
Lucy Whitaker, defending Bennett, said he had been sick at the pub after being "pressured" to drink a Jagerbomb shot by team-mates.
Latest news and stories from the East Midlands
He admitted he had drunk "some alcohol" on the night, but was driving "perfectly normally" on the way home when the crash occurred, Ms Bennett said.
Bennett "panicked" and then left the scene, before returning after he received a call from Lawrence, the court heard.
Lawrence, of Duffield, and Bennett, of Whaley Thorns near Mansfield, were fined six weeks' wages by the club after the crash.
Derby also condemned the players for bringing the club into disrepute following the "alcohol-related incident".
Lawrence signed for Derby from Leicester City for £5m in August 2017, while Bennett came through the Rams' youth system.
https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-derbyshire-50041085
12:06
Dozens wait in court for sentence verdict
Our reporter Nick Reid said they are about 50 people inside court waiting for the players’ sentence to be heard.
There are also a number of people standing outside the court.
12:09
Rams star 'twitching nervously' as sentence verdict awaits
Nick Reid says: “Lawrence keeps twitching nervously, moving his feet. Bennett remains solidly still.”
12:10
Judge returns
The case is set to be heard again as the Judge returns to the courtroom.
Silence descends.
https://www.derbytelegraph.co.uk/sport/football/football-news/media-descend-derby-court-rams-3428350
12:16
The players are now standing in the courtroom as they wait for their sentence to be heard.
Got off lightly. Should have been custodial IMO.
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12:18
SENTENCE IN.
Both players have been disqualified from driving for 2 years, given a 12-month community order each, ordered to carry out 180 hours of unpaid work and costs of £85 and £90 victim surcharge.
£175?
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“Anyone caught over the legal alcohol limit when driving will be banned from driving for a minimum of 12 months, and fined up to £5,000.
“The figure is usually higher the more someone earns.
12:21
How did the players react?
Our reporter Nick Reid says they were expressionless as the sentence was passed.
He said: “Each stood silently and went straight out of the room once the case was concluded.”
Just for comparison, the fine Ant McPartlin got:
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TV presenter Ant McPartlin has been fined £86,000 and given a 20-month driving ban after pleading guilty to drink driving.
https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/entertainment-arts-43786771
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posted on 4/10/19
comment by JonnyLosAngeles (My Dad was made in Leeds) עם ישראל חי (U9756)
posted 13 hours, 9 minutes ago
comment by milkyboy (U12731)
posted 2 hours, 43 minutes ago
I think you can’t blame the club in general for the behaviour of their players... you can question manager’s and clubs Discipline certainly... you can question what their idea of s team-building session is... but you can’t really blame them for having idiots on their staff.
However, playing them the week after the incident? Sets a terrible example.
----------------------------------------------------------------------
Yes you can blame them!
By not dealing with the perpetrators, they have condoned the behavior making similar behavior more likely.
And this is all before the poster boy for bad behavior even arrives!
----------------------------------------------------------------------
Not sure you read the last sentence Jonny.
posted on 5/10/19
I did, and noticed the contradiction, but chose to address the comment. 😉
posted on 5/10/19
No Contradiction Jonny. Clear distinction between what is blameworthy and what isn’t.
posted on 15/10/19
Looks like the rumour they did a runner leaving Keogh behind are true.
_________________________
Derby County footballers Tom Lawrence and Mason Bennett have pleaded guilty to drink-driving.
The pair were charged after a Range Rover Sport and Mercedes GLC crashed in Derby after a team-building dinner.
At the city's magistrates' court they also admitted failing to stop at the scene of the crash on 24 September.
The court heard Lawrence, 25, gave a breath test reading of 58mcg per 100ml and Bennett a reading of 64. The legal limit is 35mcg per 100ml.
Marianne Connally, prosecuting, said the players were driving home at about 23:30 BST after a night out at the Joiner's Arms pub.
A car driven by Welsh international Lawrence crashed into the back of Bennett's on the A6 in Allestree.
Lawrence's car then went across a roundabout before smashing into "street furniture", the prosecutor added.
Ms Connally said a paramedic crew witnessed the crash "entirely by chance" and came to the aid of two passengers at the scene as the defendants fled.
Lawrence and Bennett, 23, returned to the scene about 45 minutes later and were arrested.
Derby captain Richard Keogh, who was a passenger in one of the cars, sustained a knee injury that has ruled him out for up to 15 months.
Lucy Whitaker, defending Bennett, said he had been sick at the pub after being "pressured" to drink a Jagerbomb shot by team-mates.
Latest news and stories from the East Midlands
He admitted he had drunk "some alcohol" on the night, but was driving "perfectly normally" on the way home when the crash occurred, Ms Bennett said.
Bennett "panicked" and then left the scene, before returning after he received a call from Lawrence, the court heard.
Lawrence, of Duffield, and Bennett, of Whaley Thorns near Mansfield, were fined six weeks' wages by the club after the crash.
Derby also condemned the players for bringing the club into disrepute following the "alcohol-related incident".
Lawrence signed for Derby from Leicester City for £5m in August 2017, while Bennett came through the Rams' youth system.
https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-derbyshire-50041085
posted on 15/10/19
12:06
Dozens wait in court for sentence verdict
Our reporter Nick Reid said they are about 50 people inside court waiting for the players’ sentence to be heard.
There are also a number of people standing outside the court.
12:09
Rams star 'twitching nervously' as sentence verdict awaits
Nick Reid says: “Lawrence keeps twitching nervously, moving his feet. Bennett remains solidly still.”
12:10
Judge returns
The case is set to be heard again as the Judge returns to the courtroom.
Silence descends.
https://www.derbytelegraph.co.uk/sport/football/football-news/media-descend-derby-court-rams-3428350
posted on 15/10/19
12:16
The players are now standing in the courtroom as they wait for their sentence to be heard.
posted on 15/10/19
Got off lightly. Should have been custodial IMO.
______________________
12:18
SENTENCE IN.
Both players have been disqualified from driving for 2 years, given a 12-month community order each, ordered to carry out 180 hours of unpaid work and costs of £85 and £90 victim surcharge.
posted on 15/10/19
£175?
_________________
“Anyone caught over the legal alcohol limit when driving will be banned from driving for a minimum of 12 months, and fined up to £5,000.
“The figure is usually higher the more someone earns.
posted on 15/10/19
12:21
How did the players react?
Our reporter Nick Reid says they were expressionless as the sentence was passed.
He said: “Each stood silently and went straight out of the room once the case was concluded.”
posted on 15/10/19
Just for comparison, the fine Ant McPartlin got:
____________________
TV presenter Ant McPartlin has been fined £86,000 and given a 20-month driving ban after pleading guilty to drink driving.
https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/entertainment-arts-43786771
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