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posted on 3/10/19

comment by Robb : Clayton Blackmore’s tanning shop manager (U21234)
posted 5 seconds ago
comment by Clever - son son son - 'Ole Ole Ole - The Interim One'' (U18599)
posted 3 seconds ago
comment by Mason The King Greenwood (U10026)
posted 34 seconds ago
Rob’s actually right, though. Pochettino’s time managing in the premier league is more relevant to what is required to manage United than what Ole did with Molde. The levels in standard are substantial.
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Yet, if you go on robbs past Ole has won more than poch. Is that not relevant too?
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Alex McCleish has won more than Poch but you wouldn’t want him managing us
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We are talking about the relevance of oles job verses pochs no? What does mcleish have to do with it? #goalposts

posted on 3/10/19

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posted on 3/10/19

comment by Mason The King Greenwood (U10026)
posted 1 minute ago
No it’s not, because like I said the difference in levels are huge. That’s not to take away from what Ole did in Norway. But it’s not the same as managing at the hihjest level. Something Pochettino has proven himself capable of, whereas Ole is failing in this regard.
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Ill be perfectly honest. Ive said it for ages knowing full well we are entering a chitstorm of a season. Ole is 100% not the right man longterm, but the work he will / is doing at the club is something that is needed. We knew this season would be up and down. What i did expect and is happening is Ole cleaning the club. Getting rid of rot that the last three managers bought in. Hes gone deep and we can see that from the lack of squad depth, but I liken it to Klopp at pool. Small squad, players to play, that want to play for us, young nucleus.

Tactically hes not all there, but in all of our games we are creating chances, but no one can finish. He needs another two windows for me.

The DOF we need is currently our manager, but make no mistake, whilst sometimes our games are beyond frustrating, Im actually enjoying watching us again.

My two pence. And for what its worth, Arsenal look crep, we saw that on Monday, Spurs look even worse.

Whilst im not happy, ill happily give the lad a chance.


posted on 3/10/19

comment by Clever - son son son - 'Ole Ole Ole - The Interim One'' (U18599)
posted 1 minute ago
comment by Robb : Clayton Blackmore’s tanning shop manager (U21234)
posted 5 seconds ago
comment by Clever - son son son - 'Ole Ole Ole - The Interim One'' (U18599)
posted 3 seconds ago
comment by Mason The King Greenwood (U10026)
posted 34 seconds ago
Rob’s actually right, though. Pochettino’s time managing in the premier league is more relevant to what is required to manage United than what Ole did with Molde. The levels in standard are substantial.
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Yet, if you go on robbs past Ole has won more than poch. Is that not relevant too?
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Alex McCleish has won more than Poch but you wouldn’t want him managing us
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We are talking about the relevance of oles job verses pochs no? What does mcleish have to do with it? #goalposts
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You’re talking about trophies won being something that tells the whole story

It’s really not

posted on 3/10/19

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posted on 3/10/19

comment by Robb : Clayton Blackmore’s tanning shop manager (U21234)
posted 25 seconds ago
comment by Clever - son son son - 'Ole Ole Ole - The Interim One'' (U18599)
posted 1 minute ago
comment by Robb : Clayton Blackmore’s tanning shop manager (U21234)
posted 5 seconds ago
comment by Clever - son son son - 'Ole Ole Ole - The Interim One'' (U18599)
posted 3 seconds ago
comment by Mason The King Greenwood (U10026)
posted 34 seconds ago
Rob’s actually right, though. Pochettino’s time managing in the premier league is more relevant to what is required to manage United than what Ole did with Molde. The levels in standard are substantial.
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Yet, if you go on robbs past Ole has won more than poch. Is that not relevant too?
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Alex McCleish has won more than Poch but you wouldn’t want him managing us
----------------------------------------------------------------------
We are talking about the relevance of oles job verses pochs no? What does mcleish have to do with it? #goalposts
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You’re talking about trophies won being something that tells the whole story

It’s really not
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And your talking about a job being done around working at the top level being something that tells the whole story yet discard the time frame for both managers.

posted on 3/10/19

comment by Clever - son son son - 'Ole Ole Ole - The Interim One'' (U18599)
posted 17 seconds ago
comment by Robb : Clayton Blackmore’s tanning shop manager (U21234)
posted 25 seconds ago
comment by Clever - son son son - 'Ole Ole Ole - The Interim One'' (U18599)
posted 1 minute ago
comment by Robb : Clayton Blackmore’s tanning shop manager (U21234)
posted 5 seconds ago
comment by Clever - son son son - 'Ole Ole Ole - The Interim One'' (U18599)
posted 3 seconds ago
comment by Mason The King Greenwood (U10026)
posted 34 seconds ago
Rob’s actually right, though. Pochettino’s time managing in the premier league is more relevant to what is required to manage United than what Ole did with Molde. The levels in standard are substantial.
----------------------------------------------------------------------
Yet, if you go on robbs past Ole has won more than poch. Is that not relevant too?
----------------------------------------------------------------------

Alex McCleish has won more than Poch but you wouldn’t want him managing us
----------------------------------------------------------------------
We are talking about the relevance of oles job verses pochs no? What does mcleish have to do with it? #goalposts
----------------------------------------------------------------------

You’re talking about trophies won being something that tells the whole story

It’s really not
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And your talking about a job being done around working at the top level being something that tells the whole story yet discard the time frame for both managers.
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You’re also forgetting the great job Poch did at Southampton. He succeeded in relative terms in the PL and got the Spurs job because he showed he had something special

Ole hasn’t really shown anything special - I doubt any fan knew if he had a style of play or had any tactical nous

posted on 3/10/19

That copy and paste of your comment earlier doesn’t really have any relevance to my point about him and Pochettino.

Ole’s suitability to manage United and what he may or may not do is a different matter. I just find the comparisons with Klopp and Pochettino reeetarded.

Two of them are among the best coaches in the world. The other one isn’t. No prizes for working out which is which.

posted on 3/10/19

comment by Mason The King Greenwood (U10026)
posted 15 seconds ago
That copy and paste of your comment earlier doesn’t really have any relevance to my point about him and Pochettino.

Ole’s suitability to manage United and what he may or may not do is a different matter. I just find the comparisons with Klopp and Pochettino reeetarded.

Two of them are among the best coaches in the world. The other one isn’t. No prizes for working out which is which.
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Lets see how things pan out. As i said, im ok with knowing with what this season was going to bring. 👍

posted on 3/10/19

As Darren said, if Ole lost his job he would never manage a top club again

If Poch was sacked he could work at any of them

That tells the whole story

posted on 3/10/19

comment by Robb : Clayton Blackmore’s tanning shop manager (U21234)
posted 1 minute ago
As Darren said, if Ole lost his job he would never manage a top club again

If Poch was sacked he could work at any of them

That tells the whole story
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Again, all ifs. Hasnt actually happend has it?

posted on 3/10/19

Some flakey comparisons going on again.

Yes Klopp got relegated. It was a team he got promoted against all odds though. He didn't take over, get relegated and leave them placed 16th in the second tier.

Managing Molde is nothing like time served at a CL club. How to handle big egos, more pressure, money, exposure, critique and so on.

A better comparison would be Steve Nicol who smashed it in America as manager and I can tell you right now if we appointed him people on here would take the p!ss.

It blind loyalty alone that leads to these comparisons.

posted on 3/10/19

comment by Robbing Hoody - tell me I can't and I'll show you I can (U6374)
posted 19 seconds ago
Some flakey comparisons going on again.

Yes Klopp got relegated. It was a team he got promoted against all odds though. He didn't take over, get relegated and leave them placed 16th in the second tier.

Managing Molde is nothing like time served at a CL club. How to handle big egos, more pressure, money, exposure, critique and so on.

A better comparison would be Steve Nicol who smashed it in America as manager and I can tell you right now if we appointed him people on here would take the p!ss.

It blind loyalty alone that leads to these comparisons.
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Or understanding that the job being done is bigger than just immediate results and fancy football. The club needs cleaning. 3 bad managerial appintments have seen to that.

posted on 3/10/19

They aren’t ifs. They are when’s. This is what I mean about the ridiculous comparisons, some of our fans are actually mental.

posted on 3/10/19

comment by Mason The King Greenwood (U10026)
posted 1 second ago
They aren’t ifs. They are when’s. This is what I mean about the ridiculous comparisons, some of our fans are actually mental.
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I told you had mad some of them are over here

posted on 3/10/19

comment by Mason The King Greenwood (U10026)
posted 6 seconds ago
They aren’t ifs. They are when’s. This is what I mean about the ridiculous comparisons, some of our fans are actually mental.
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They will be whens, when they happen if it hasn't happened, its a if no?

posted on 3/10/19

Which is fine but it's not comparable to Klopp and Poch who have got results repeatedly on footballs biggest stages.

posted on 3/10/19

comment by Robbing Hoody - tell me I can't and I'll show you I can (U6374)
posted 9 seconds ago
Which is fine but it's not comparable to Klopp and Poch who have got results repeatedly on footballs biggest stages.
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After how long?

posted on 3/10/19

comment by Clever - son son son - 'Ole Ole Ole - The Interim One'' (U18599)
posted 3 seconds ago
comment by Robbing Hoody - tell me I can't and I'll show you I can (U6374)
posted 9 seconds ago
Which is fine but it's not comparable to Klopp and Poch who have got results repeatedly on footballs biggest stages.
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After how long?
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Less than 42 games.

posted on 3/10/19

But we know they will happen. Like I know that when Ashley Young is out of contract he won’t have his pick of the European elite, whereas Neymar will when PSG sell him.

posted on 3/10/19

comment by Robbing Hoody - tell me I can't and I'll show you I can (U6374)
posted 17 seconds ago
comment by Clever - son son son - 'Ole Ole Ole - The Interim One'' (U18599)
posted 3 seconds ago
comment by Robbing Hoody - tell me I can't and I'll show you I can (U6374)
posted 9 seconds ago
Which is fine but it's not comparable to Klopp and Poch who have got results repeatedly on footballs biggest stages.
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After how long?
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Less than 42 games.
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Pretty sure neither were quite as successful in theirearly days.

Solskaer has been manager 9 years. In that time he won a league and got relegated. In klopps first 9 years he go promoted and relegated.

Something to digest.

posted on 3/10/19

comment by Clever - son son son - 'Ole Ole Ole - The Interim One'' (U18599)
posted 1 minute ago
comment by Robbing Hoody - tell me I can't and I'll show you I can (U6374)
posted 17 seconds ago
comment by Clever - son son son - 'Ole Ole Ole - The Interim One'' (U18599)
posted 3 seconds ago
comment by Robbing Hoody - tell me I can't and I'll show you I can (U6374)
posted 9 seconds ago
Which is fine but it's not comparable to Klopp and Poch who have got results repeatedly on footballs biggest stages.
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After how long?
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Less than 42 games.
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Pretty sure neither were quite as successful in theirearly days.

Solskaer has been manager 9 years. In that time he won a league and got relegated. In klopps first 9 years he go promoted and relegated.

Something to digest.
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We can see with our own eyes that Ole is out of his depth. It’s sad you can’t. I had it with Moyes and I recognise the symptoms

posted on 3/10/19

I don't understand your post.

I find the comparison with Klopp bizarre tbh.

posted on 3/10/19

comment by Robbing Hoody - tell me I can't and I'll show you I can (U6374)
posted 17 seconds ago
I don't understand your post.

I find the comparison with Klopp bizarre tbh.
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You said klopp got results repeatedly on the biggest stage in 42 games.

I just pulled out the stats for both based on oles entire managerial career (as we know klopps been around longer) the story is similar for both. So why is ole being disgarded if klopp wasn't at the time with the same if not worse record? (And just so you knowz i think klopp is class even if he does manage ur lot)

posted on 3/10/19

comment by Robb : Clayton Blackmore’s tanning shop manager (U21234)
posted 4 minutes ago
comment by Clever - son son son - 'Ole Ole Ole - The Interim One'' (U18599)
posted 1 minute ago
comment by Robbing Hoody - tell me I can't and I'll show you I can (U6374)
posted 17 seconds ago
comment by Clever - son son son - 'Ole Ole Ole - The Interim One'' (U18599)
posted 3 seconds ago
comment by Robbing Hoody - tell me I can't and I'll show you I can (U6374)
posted 9 seconds ago
Which is fine but it's not comparable to Klopp and Poch who have got results repeatedly on footballs biggest stages.
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After how long?
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Less than 42 games.
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Pretty sure neither were quite as successful in theirearly days.

Solskaer has been manager 9 years. In that time he won a league and got relegated. In klopps first 9 years he go promoted and relegated.

Something to digest.
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We can see with our own eyes that Ole is out of his depth. It’s sad you can’t. I had it with Moyes and I recognise the symptoms
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You have no leg to stand on. You thought / think lukaku is a good striker and jose (yes the guy who left ole to pick up the pieces) woukd still be doing better. So sorry if I like most on here take your opinion as chit

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