How long will Eriksen still hang around like a bad smell. No friggin way should a £200k a week contract be still on the table for him.
comment by Boss By Hugo (U18550)
posted 3 minutes ago
comment by morespurs (U15748)
posted 13 minutes ago
comment by Boss By Hugo (U18550)
posted 41 seconds ago
MK said earlier. We all thought it was great from Levy because we kept our players but Pochettino seems to have wanted some gone and rightfully so.
----------------------------------------------------------------------
No proof of that.
Only thing is Poch asked that we get new players in. He never said he wanted old players gone.
This is a new chapter, and it will be tough in the beginning. That's also something Poch alluded to already.
----------------------------------------------------------------------
Would be naive to think he didnt want any gone. Rose prime example of player he would have been fine being sold. Same with Wanyama for instance.
----------------------------------------------------------------------
Whether Poch did think about players gone, he never mentioned it. That's my point. Nothing naive about that.
Rose and Wanyama gone or stay, isn't what is causing the current side to play at a very slow pace and look devoid of confidence at all.
Had we brought in more players, no guarantee they would have made this team right now play any better, or with any urgency.
We are notoriously slow at the start of the season, and this was attributed many times, to the tough pre-season that Poch likes. I have even heard Ndombele say that he has never been involved in a more intense pre-season yet!
The fact that we had player shenanigans, with fans demanding certain players gone and others brought to the club, and certain players yet to sign their contracts, has added extra spice to this situation.
One very telling analysis I have seen of why Bayern and today Brighton have fared so well against us is because we still play 4-3-2-1. With this system, we have a diamond formation which supposed to be very effective but only if the the players press at once.
Against Bayern, they were able to play the ball without being halted by the players in that diamond zone. And because, our players didn't closed down theirs at once, they were able to play around that diamond zone, and find gaps behind the defenders.
We need to play a simpler formation. City play 4-3-3. I am not saying which should play the same, but at least for now, let's play 4-4-2?
We can field 16 players right now and still lose
I have to say in five years, against every slump we have seen our side go through, Poch and his team have come up with an answer. I am very sure they'll do so now too.
Now that we have two weeks off, it is even feasible that the next time Spurs play, there could be a different shape and players to the lineup.
comment by morespurs (U15748)
posted 14 minutes ago
One very telling analysis I have seen of why Bayern and today Brighton have fared so well against us is because we still play 4-3-2-1. With this system, we have a diamond formation which supposed to be very effective but only if the the players press at once.
Against Bayern, they were able to play the ball without being halted by the players in that diamond zone. And because, our players didn't closed down theirs at once, they were able to play around that diamond zone, and find gaps behind the defenders.
We need to play a simpler formation. City play 4-3-3. I am not saying which should play the same, but at least for now, let's play 4-4-2?
----------------------------------------------------------------------
We played pretty much our old 4231 today.
Sometimes I think people want to always look at tactics being the root cause of issues at football clubs nowadays when that isn’t the case.
Aston Villa
Brighton
Watford
Wolverhampton
Newcastle
Just a few clubs with greater net spend over the last 5 years. But we want our squad to battle for trophies every single season
Dont liverpool and leicester have a greater net spend though, get your point, but it's all on the quality of the business. Our transfer business over the last 3 years has been nothing short of appalling.
Its about the players on the pitch.
They're supposed to be good enough to beat Brighton.
But only some of them are playing like they want to be there.
What we need is 4 Moussa Sissoko's on the field.
Then we'd be winning things.
comment by Boss By Hugo (U18550)
posted 7 hours, 36 minutes ago
Aston Villa
Brighton
Watford
Wolverhampton
Newcastle
Just a few clubs with greater net spend over the last 5 years. But we want our squad to battle for trophies every single season
----------------------------------------------------------------------
These teams didn’t have class players at the club (who are still here) at the start of that time frame though. Nor did they have someone like Harry Kane come through the academy......
Liverpool and Spurs were at similar levels. Now we see the consequences of their actions. One investing very smartly and the other sitting around negotiating with the NFL.
-----------------------------------------------
I use this analogy all the time too, frustrates the hell out of me (and the fact I I live just outside London and am surrounded by mouthy Pool fans?).
We were both on a level pegging at the start of Klopp's tenure, both rebuilding/remodelling respective clubs but they've spent and most importantly, spent wisely that has enabled them to have a marked improvement year on year. We, on the other hand got no better and up until this season, no worse.
Poch has done well considering compared to the backing given to Klopp and to be fair to Levy, we've also had a near billion pound new stadium but I'm not sure our scouting network would have found the gems anyway. And, if we had found them, we would have waited until the last hour of the transfer window to get said player.
All bizarre and utterly frustrating to see a club (Liverpool) who were on the same level as us do everything the right way and progress. Us, we now have a lovely, shiny stadium and taring facility with crap performances, humiliating new records being made, no sign of a raft of great new kids knocking on the door (Parrot exception?). Liverpool have been loaning out their best and now blooding them.
Pains me to say it but, Liverpool are the club we need to look at with respect to a model of progression.
Don't mean to be pedantic but I'd say Spurs were a bit better than Liverpool when Klopp joined.
comment by Klopptimus Prime - Die Unerträglichen (U1282)
posted 21 minutes ago
Don't mean to be pedantic but I'd say Spurs were a bit better than Liverpool when Klopp joined.
----------------------------------------------------------------------
We were. We were the ones in the better position to challenge for the title. If Liverpool win the league which is looking likely now, it should be the bitterest pill to swallow for us knowing the 2 clubs were just 4 years ago.
comment by Tottenham Chronic (U3423)
posted 3 hours, 50 minutes ago
comment by Boss By Hugo (U18550)
posted 7 hours, 36 minutes ago
Aston Villa
Brighton
Watford
Wolverhampton
Newcastle
Just a few clubs with greater net spend over the last 5 years. But we want our squad to battle for trophies every single season
----------------------------------------------------------------------
These teams didn’t have class players at the club (who are still here) at the start of that time frame though. Nor did they have someone like Harry Kane come through the academy......
------------------------------------------------------------------------
My point is if those clubs can afford to then so can we. Having a starting core that's better is the advantage we have and players like Kane coming through are the luck you need.
So instead of spending £100m on two brilliant strikers. Someone like Kane coming through should remove some of that burden so we end up with two quality strikers for a total £50m outlay.
What we have done is end up with one quality striker for £0 and pocketed the £50m effectively. Goes back to my other thread where if this is how we want to do business then fine. But then we need to stop pretending to be a top club and lower our expectations to top four with a fluke trophy if and when it happens.
comment by Phe'ndombele (U20037)
posted 4 hours, 13 minutes ago
Dont liverpool and leicester have a greater net spend though, get your point, but it's all on the quality of the business. Our transfer business over the last 3 years has been nothing short of appalling.
----------------------------------------------------------------------
They have greater net spend yeah and they have also spent it more wisely too. It's not as if we have bought much players to judge the quality. We have brought in what 4 players in 2 years?! Of whom one is on loan. One is settling in and two are injured one of which is a loan signing as it stands.
Over the last 5 years, net spend is about the same between Spurs and Liverpool
comment by Klopptimus Prime - Die Unerträglichen (U1282)
posted 2 hours, 18 minutes ago
Over the last 5 years, net spend is about the same between Spurs and Liverpool
----------------------------------------------------------------------
Yeah but covered it in another thread actually. Liverpool and Spurs have similar net spends for 5 years but your team cost £500m compared to our £260m odd. Which means you had head start. Also your wages are insanely higher than ours.
Sign in if you want to comment
Ex-Spurs Players
Page 6 of 6
6
posted on 5/10/19
How long will Eriksen still hang around like a bad smell. No friggin way should a £200k a week contract be still on the table for him.
posted on 5/10/19
comment by Boss By Hugo (U18550)
posted 3 minutes ago
comment by morespurs (U15748)
posted 13 minutes ago
comment by Boss By Hugo (U18550)
posted 41 seconds ago
MK said earlier. We all thought it was great from Levy because we kept our players but Pochettino seems to have wanted some gone and rightfully so.
----------------------------------------------------------------------
No proof of that.
Only thing is Poch asked that we get new players in. He never said he wanted old players gone.
This is a new chapter, and it will be tough in the beginning. That's also something Poch alluded to already.
----------------------------------------------------------------------
Would be naive to think he didnt want any gone. Rose prime example of player he would have been fine being sold. Same with Wanyama for instance.
----------------------------------------------------------------------
Whether Poch did think about players gone, he never mentioned it. That's my point. Nothing naive about that.
Rose and Wanyama gone or stay, isn't what is causing the current side to play at a very slow pace and look devoid of confidence at all.
Had we brought in more players, no guarantee they would have made this team right now play any better, or with any urgency.
We are notoriously slow at the start of the season, and this was attributed many times, to the tough pre-season that Poch likes. I have even heard Ndombele say that he has never been involved in a more intense pre-season yet!
The fact that we had player shenanigans, with fans demanding certain players gone and others brought to the club, and certain players yet to sign their contracts, has added extra spice to this situation.
posted on 5/10/19
One very telling analysis I have seen of why Bayern and today Brighton have fared so well against us is because we still play 4-3-2-1. With this system, we have a diamond formation which supposed to be very effective but only if the the players press at once.
Against Bayern, they were able to play the ball without being halted by the players in that diamond zone. And because, our players didn't closed down theirs at once, they were able to play around that diamond zone, and find gaps behind the defenders.
We need to play a simpler formation. City play 4-3-3. I am not saying which should play the same, but at least for now, let's play 4-4-2?
posted on 5/10/19
We can field 16 players right now and still lose
posted on 5/10/19
I have to say in five years, against every slump we have seen our side go through, Poch and his team have come up with an answer. I am very sure they'll do so now too.
Now that we have two weeks off, it is even feasible that the next time Spurs play, there could be a different shape and players to the lineup.
posted on 5/10/19
comment by morespurs (U15748)
posted 14 minutes ago
One very telling analysis I have seen of why Bayern and today Brighton have fared so well against us is because we still play 4-3-2-1. With this system, we have a diamond formation which supposed to be very effective but only if the the players press at once.
Against Bayern, they were able to play the ball without being halted by the players in that diamond zone. And because, our players didn't closed down theirs at once, they were able to play around that diamond zone, and find gaps behind the defenders.
We need to play a simpler formation. City play 4-3-3. I am not saying which should play the same, but at least for now, let's play 4-4-2?
----------------------------------------------------------------------
We played pretty much our old 4231 today.
posted on 5/10/19
Sometimes I think people want to always look at tactics being the root cause of issues at football clubs nowadays when that isn’t the case.
posted on 5/10/19
Aston Villa
Brighton
Watford
Wolverhampton
Newcastle
Just a few clubs with greater net spend over the last 5 years. But we want our squad to battle for trophies every single season
posted on 6/10/19
Dont liverpool and leicester have a greater net spend though, get your point, but it's all on the quality of the business. Our transfer business over the last 3 years has been nothing short of appalling.
posted on 6/10/19
Its about the players on the pitch.
They're supposed to be good enough to beat Brighton.
But only some of them are playing like they want to be there.
What we need is 4 Moussa Sissoko's on the field.
Then we'd be winning things.
posted on 6/10/19
comment by Boss By Hugo (U18550)
posted 7 hours, 36 minutes ago
Aston Villa
Brighton
Watford
Wolverhampton
Newcastle
Just a few clubs with greater net spend over the last 5 years. But we want our squad to battle for trophies every single season
----------------------------------------------------------------------
These teams didn’t have class players at the club (who are still here) at the start of that time frame though. Nor did they have someone like Harry Kane come through the academy......
posted on 6/10/19
Liverpool and Spurs were at similar levels. Now we see the consequences of their actions. One investing very smartly and the other sitting around negotiating with the NFL.
-----------------------------------------------
I use this analogy all the time too, frustrates the hell out of me (and the fact I I live just outside London and am surrounded by mouthy Pool fans?).
We were both on a level pegging at the start of Klopp's tenure, both rebuilding/remodelling respective clubs but they've spent and most importantly, spent wisely that has enabled them to have a marked improvement year on year. We, on the other hand got no better and up until this season, no worse.
Poch has done well considering compared to the backing given to Klopp and to be fair to Levy, we've also had a near billion pound new stadium but I'm not sure our scouting network would have found the gems anyway. And, if we had found them, we would have waited until the last hour of the transfer window to get said player.
All bizarre and utterly frustrating to see a club (Liverpool) who were on the same level as us do everything the right way and progress. Us, we now have a lovely, shiny stadium and taring facility with crap performances, humiliating new records being made, no sign of a raft of great new kids knocking on the door (Parrot exception?). Liverpool have been loaning out their best and now blooding them.
Pains me to say it but, Liverpool are the club we need to look at with respect to a model of progression.
posted on 6/10/19
Don't mean to be pedantic but I'd say Spurs were a bit better than Liverpool when Klopp joined.
posted on 6/10/19
comment by Klopptimus Prime - Die Unerträglichen (U1282)
posted 21 minutes ago
Don't mean to be pedantic but I'd say Spurs were a bit better than Liverpool when Klopp joined.
----------------------------------------------------------------------
We were. We were the ones in the better position to challenge for the title. If Liverpool win the league which is looking likely now, it should be the bitterest pill to swallow for us knowing the 2 clubs were just 4 years ago.
posted on 6/10/19
comment by Tottenham Chronic (U3423)
posted 3 hours, 50 minutes ago
comment by Boss By Hugo (U18550)
posted 7 hours, 36 minutes ago
Aston Villa
Brighton
Watford
Wolverhampton
Newcastle
Just a few clubs with greater net spend over the last 5 years. But we want our squad to battle for trophies every single season
----------------------------------------------------------------------
These teams didn’t have class players at the club (who are still here) at the start of that time frame though. Nor did they have someone like Harry Kane come through the academy......
------------------------------------------------------------------------
My point is if those clubs can afford to then so can we. Having a starting core that's better is the advantage we have and players like Kane coming through are the luck you need.
So instead of spending £100m on two brilliant strikers. Someone like Kane coming through should remove some of that burden so we end up with two quality strikers for a total £50m outlay.
What we have done is end up with one quality striker for £0 and pocketed the £50m effectively. Goes back to my other thread where if this is how we want to do business then fine. But then we need to stop pretending to be a top club and lower our expectations to top four with a fluke trophy if and when it happens.
posted on 6/10/19
comment by Phe'ndombele (U20037)
posted 4 hours, 13 minutes ago
Dont liverpool and leicester have a greater net spend though, get your point, but it's all on the quality of the business. Our transfer business over the last 3 years has been nothing short of appalling.
----------------------------------------------------------------------
They have greater net spend yeah and they have also spent it more wisely too. It's not as if we have bought much players to judge the quality. We have brought in what 4 players in 2 years?! Of whom one is on loan. One is settling in and two are injured one of which is a loan signing as it stands.
posted on 6/10/19
Over the last 5 years, net spend is about the same between Spurs and Liverpool
posted on 6/10/19
comment by Klopptimus Prime - Die Unerträglichen (U1282)
posted 2 hours, 18 minutes ago
Over the last 5 years, net spend is about the same between Spurs and Liverpool
----------------------------------------------------------------------
Yeah but covered it in another thread actually. Liverpool and Spurs have similar net spends for 5 years but your team cost £500m compared to our £260m odd. Which means you had head start. Also your wages are insanely higher than ours.
Page 6 of 6
6