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UEFA Protocol Not Good Enough

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posted on 14/10/19

I thought England were going to walk off?

posted on 14/10/19


England FA fella talking up the protocol and advocating zero tolerance. Not sure he’s thought that one through.

posted on 14/10/19

What's the threshold, one fan, 10 fans?

The protocol if enforced is fine. Far far far more people suffer from the match being abandoned that are innocent than are participating in the abuse so just immediately abandoning it is stupid and yet more emotionally driven reactionary drivel.

It's horrendous behaviour and should be stamped out but why make the other paying fans suffer.

posted on 14/10/19

comment by Frasier Crane (U3979)
posted 7 seconds ago
What's the threshold, one fan, 10 fans?

The protocol if enforced is fine. Far far far more people suffer from the match being abandoned that are innocent than are participating in the abuse so just immediately abandoning it is stupid and yet more emotionally driven reactionary drivel.

It's horrendous behaviour and should be stamped out but why make the other paying fans suffer.
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Yes one fan is enough.

The idea that people are suffering because the game is abandoned is an absurd suggestion when players are subjected to racial abuse.

I think that outweighs the entertainment factor of football fans.

posted on 14/10/19

The only way to stop it is ban them from future qualification, or ban them from all international football for a period of time.
Did think it stopped in 2nd half.

posted on 14/10/19

comment by Blue_mooning (U12093)
posted 11 seconds ago
The only way to stop it is ban them from future qualification, or ban them from all international football for a period of time.
Did think it stopped in 2nd half.
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It didn’t. ITV adjust showed replays of it persisting and picked up on the microphones.

posted on 14/10/19

should england be banned ?

their fans constantly go on the rampage in foreign cities

sevilla, prague...you name it ...they've smashed these places up

posted on 14/10/19

comment by Metro.⚽️ (U6770)
posted 1 minute ago
comment by Blue_mooning (U12093)
posted 11 seconds ago
The only way to stop it is ban them from future qualification, or ban them from all international football for a period of time.
Did think it stopped in 2nd half.
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It didn’t. ITV adjust showed replays of it persisting and picked up on the microphones.
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Ok fair enough a few left aswel. Surely they can ban alot of the culprits. Its not like its the majority of the stadium. But then again they will find away in.

posted on 14/10/19

comment by peks..#free el chapo (U6618)
posted 39 seconds ago
should england be banned ?

their fans constantly go on the rampage in foreign cities

sevilla, prague...you name it ...they've smashed these places up
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No.

posted on 14/10/19

comment by Metro.⚽️ (U6770)
posted 4 minutes ago
comment by Frasier Crane (U3979)
posted 7 seconds ago
What's the threshold, one fan, 10 fans?

The protocol if enforced is fine. Far far far more people suffer from the match being abandoned that are innocent than are participating in the abuse so just immediately abandoning it is stupid and yet more emotionally driven reactionary drivel.

It's horrendous behaviour and should be stamped out but why make the other paying fans suffer.
----------------------------------------------------------------------

Yes one fan is enough.

The idea that people are suffering because the game is abandoned is an absurd suggestion when players are subjected to racial abuse.

I think that outweighs the entertainment factor of football fans.
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There would be no fans at games in any country in the world then.

Beyond ridiculous.

posted on 14/10/19

comment by Blue_mooning (U12093)
posted 2 seconds ago
comment by Metro.⚽️ (U6770)
posted 1 minute ago
comment by Blue_mooning (U12093)
posted 11 seconds ago
The only way to stop it is ban them from future qualification, or ban them from all international football for a period of time.
Did think it stopped in 2nd half.
----------------------------------------------------------------------

It didn’t. ITV adjust showed replays of it persisting and picked up on the microphones.
----------------------------------------------------------------------
Ok fair enough a few left aswel. Surely they can ban alot of the culprits. Its not like its the majority of the stadium. But then again they will find away in.
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Why should the entertainment value for non racist fans be placed above the racial discrimination of players on the pitch?

posted on 14/10/19

comment by Metro.⚽️ (U6770)
posted 2 minutes ago
comment by peks..#free el chapo (U6618)
posted 39 seconds ago
should england be banned ?

their fans constantly go on the rampage in foreign cities

sevilla, prague...you name it ...they've smashed these places up
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No.
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ofcourse it's different rules for england

english hypocrisy right there

posted on 14/10/19

comment by Frasier Crane (U3979)
posted 1 minute ago
comment by Metro.⚽️ (U6770)
posted 4 minutes ago
comment by Frasier Crane (U3979)
posted 7 seconds ago
What's the threshold, one fan, 10 fans?

The protocol if enforced is fine. Far far far more people suffer from the match being abandoned that are innocent than are participating in the abuse so just immediately abandoning it is stupid and yet more emotionally driven reactionary drivel.

It's horrendous behaviour and should be stamped out but why make the other paying fans suffer.
----------------------------------------------------------------------

Yes one fan is enough.

The idea that people are suffering because the game is abandoned is an absurd suggestion when players are subjected to racial abuse.

I think that outweighs the entertainment factor of football fans.
----------------------------------------------------------------------
There would be no fans at games in any country in the world then.

Beyond ridiculous
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I think a 3 warning rule for racism on the terraces is ridiculous.

comment by We-are (U19211)

posted on 14/10/19

Well their country don't look like they think they have a problem.. No police or stewards in with their fans, fans allowed to hide faces and no naaazi salutes.. Shameful but not surprising.. Boot them out

posted on 14/10/19

comment by Metro.⚽️ (U6770)
posted 1 minute ago
comment by Blue_mooning (U12093)
posted 2 seconds ago
comment by Metro.⚽️ (U6770)
posted 1 minute ago
comment by Blue_mooning (U12093)
posted 11 seconds ago
The only way to stop it is ban them from future qualification, or ban them from all international football for a period of time.
Did think it stopped in 2nd half.
----------------------------------------------------------------------

It didn’t. ITV adjust showed replays of it persisting and picked up on the microphones.
----------------------------------------------------------------------
Ok fair enough a few left aswel. Surely they can ban alot of the culprits. Its not like its the majority of the stadium. But then again they will find away in.
----------------------------------------------------------------------

Why should the entertainment value for non racist fans be placed above the racial discrimination of players on the pitch?
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It shouldnt be. But going off shud be last resort.. if you go off after racist chanting. There gonna do it when they start losing badly. Theres no reason for them not to.

posted on 14/10/19

comment by wearethefamousTHFC (U19211)
posted 45 seconds ago
Well their country don't look like they think they have a problem.. No police or stewards in with their fans, fans allowed to hide faces and no naaazi salutes.. Shameful but not surprising.. Boot them out
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Where do you stand on giving them 3 chances?

comment by We-are (U19211)

posted on 14/10/19

I think it means 3 chances to not get the game stopped.. Im sure further punishment will be handed out this week... Backward country... People like sizzle should go and live there and get some perspective

posted on 14/10/19

comment by Blue_mooning (U12093)
posted 24 seconds ago
comment by Metro.⚽️ (U6770)
posted 1 minute ago
comment by Blue_mooning (U12093)
posted 2 seconds ago
comment by Metro.⚽️ (U6770)
posted 1 minute ago
comment by Blue_mooning (U12093)
posted 11 seconds ago
The only way to stop it is ban them from future qualification, or ban them from all international football for a period of time.
Did think it stopped in 2nd half.
----------------------------------------------------------------------

It didn’t. ITV adjust showed replays of it persisting and picked up on the microphones.
----------------------------------------------------------------------
Ok fair enough a few left aswel. Surely they can ban alot of the culprits. Its not like its the majority of the stadium. But then again they will find away in.
----------------------------------------------------------------------

Why should the entertainment value for non racist fans be placed above the racial discrimination of players on the pitch?
----------------------------------------------------------------------
It shouldnt be. But going off shud be last resort.. if you go off after racist chanting. There gonna do it when they start losing badly. Theres no reason for them not to.
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No offence but this is the exact kind of leniency why UEFA continue to bumble over this issue.

Ending the game is fine with me. Slap an automatic 10-0 result on the match and ban them from the tournament.

Going off should be the first resort.

posted on 14/10/19

comment by Metro.⚽️ (U6770)
posted 1 minute ago
comment by Frasier Crane (U3979)
posted 1 minute ago
comment by Metro.⚽️ (U6770)
posted 4 minutes ago
comment by Frasier Crane (U3979)
posted 7 seconds ago
What's the threshold, one fan, 10 fans?

The protocol if enforced is fine. Far far far more people suffer from the match being abandoned that are innocent than are participating in the abuse so just immediately abandoning it is stupid and yet more emotionally driven reactionary drivel.

It's horrendous behaviour and should be stamped out but why make the other paying fans suffer.
----------------------------------------------------------------------

Yes one fan is enough.

The idea that people are suffering because the game is abandoned is an absurd suggestion when players are subjected to racial abuse.

I think that outweighs the entertainment factor of football fans.
----------------------------------------------------------------------
There would be no fans at games in any country in the world then.

Beyond ridiculous
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I think a 3 warning rule for racism on the terraces is ridiculous.
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So 5 minutes into an England game and some troglodyte starts making monkey noises. So you think the game should be immediately abandoned with 90,000 people then having to go home without watching a game.

People spending upwards of 50 quid on tickets, that's 4.5m pounds people have spent gone to waste for one idiot.

You don't think that's a little extreme?

comment by Ace (U18814)

posted on 14/10/19

comment by peks..#free el chapo (U6618)
posted 5 minutes ago
comment by Metro.⚽️ (U6770)
posted 2 minutes ago
comment by peks..#free el chapo (U6618)
posted 39 seconds ago
should england be banned ?

their fans constantly go on the rampage in foreign cities

sevilla, prague...you name it ...they've smashed these places up
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No.
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ofcourse it's different rules for england

english hypocrisy right there


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Peks the Englishman who pretends to be Spanish trying to wum

posted on 14/10/19

so then there will be fans sitting opposition stands shouting racist stuff when their teams losing so their team wins 10-0 when its abandoned? yeah nice one.

posted on 14/10/19

comment by Ace (U18814)
posted 15 seconds ago
comment by peks..#free el chapo (U6618)
posted 5 minutes ago
comment by Metro.⚽️ (U6770)
posted 2 minutes ago
comment by peks..#free el chapo (U6618)
posted 39 seconds ago
should england be banned ?

their fans constantly go on the rampage in foreign cities

sevilla, prague...you name it ...they've smashed these places up
----------------------------------------------------------------------

No.
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ofcourse it's different rules for england

english hypocrisy right there


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Peks the Englishman who pretends to be Spanish trying to wum
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i'm good at it

let me be

posted on 14/10/19

comment by wearethefamousTHFC (U19211)
posted 12 seconds ago
I think it means 3 chances to not get the game stopped.. Im sure further punishment will be handed out this week... Backward country... People like sizzle should go and live there and get some perspective
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Surely the stamping out of racial abuse has to take precedence over the continuation of the match.

You’re either zero tolerance on racism or you’re not.

comment by Spurtle (U1608)

posted on 14/10/19

It's not as bad as you're making it out to be. I mean I can see why they'd do it because abandoning a game affects all the innocent fans from both clubs and there are more of them than the racists.

They obviously need to find a way to stamp it out completely but that's going to go beyond the confines of a football stadium.

comment by We-are (U19211)

posted on 14/10/19

In England that fan would be arrested and charged and banned.. No arrests or even interest from their police for racist behaviour inside stadium.. They are 30 yrs behind us... Ultras seem to be running these clubs

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