comment by Metro.⚽️ (U6770)
posted 7 seconds ago
comment by Blue_mooning (U12093)
posted 24 seconds ago
comment by Metro.⚽️ (U6770)
posted 1 minute ago
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posted 2 seconds ago
comment by Metro.⚽️ (U6770)
posted 1 minute ago
comment by Blue_mooning (U12093)
posted 11 seconds ago
The only way to stop it is ban them from future qualification, or ban them from all international football for a period of time.
Did think it stopped in 2nd half.
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It didn’t. ITV adjust showed replays of it persisting and picked up on the microphones.
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Ok fair enough a few left aswel. Surely they can ban alot of the culprits. Its not like its the majority of the stadium. But then again they will find away in.
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Why should the entertainment value for non racist fans be placed above the racial discrimination of players on the pitch?
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It shouldnt be. But going off shud be last resort.. if you go off after racist chanting. There gonna do it when they start losing badly. Theres no reason for them not to.
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No offence but this is the exact kind of leniency why UEFA continue to bumble over this issue.
Ending the game is fine with me. Slap an automatic 10-0 result on the match and ban them from the tournament.
Going off should be the first resort.
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Banning them from international football is the way. 10-0 to a team that has no chance of qualalifying seems leniant to me.
comment by Frasier Crane (U3979)
posted 1 minute ago
comment by Metro.⚽️ (U6770)
posted 1 minute ago
comment by Frasier Crane (U3979)
posted 1 minute ago
comment by Metro.⚽️ (U6770)
posted 4 minutes ago
comment by Frasier Crane (U3979)
posted 7 seconds ago
What's the threshold, one fan, 10 fans?
The protocol if enforced is fine. Far far far more people suffer from the match being abandoned that are innocent than are participating in the abuse so just immediately abandoning it is stupid and yet more emotionally driven reactionary drivel.
It's horrendous behaviour and should be stamped out but why make the other paying fans suffer.
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Yes one fan is enough.
The idea that people are suffering because the game is abandoned is an absurd suggestion when players are subjected to racial abuse.
I think that outweighs the entertainment factor of football fans.
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There would be no fans at games in any country in the world then.
Beyond ridiculous
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I think a 3 warning rule for racism on the terraces is ridiculous.
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So 5 minutes into an England game and some troglodyte starts making monkey noises. So you think the game should be immediately abandoned with 90,000 people then having to go home without watching a game.
People spending upwards of 50 quid on tickets, that's 4.5m pounds people have spent gone to waste for one idiot.
You don't think that's a little extreme?
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I understand it’s a difficult subject and I suppose we could chat further about the variables but it also depends on how serious you are about stamping racism out of the game.
I watched a horde of fans tonight chant monkey noises and wee given 2 warnings. If there are people out there that think this is the right way to tackle racism then I simply disagree with them.
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So you’ve paid hundreds of pounds and taken time off work to travel across Europe to support England and some local nobheads start shouting racial abuse and you want the game ended and forfeited immediately?
Really thought this one through haven’t you
Qualifying* had a shocker then haha
comment by Inbefore (U20589)
posted 4 minutes ago
so then there will be fans sitting opposition stands shouting racist stuff when their teams losing so their team wins 10-0 when its abandoned? yeah nice one.
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I accept that there are variables so I can take back my one fan comment.
Buy a horde of fans chanting monkey noises can’t be given 3 opportunities to stop - surely?
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comment by Pineapple Chunks (U1449)
posted 1 minute ago
So you’ve paid hundreds of pounds and taken time off work to travel across Europe to support England and some local nobheads start shouting racial abuse and you want the game ended and forfeited immediately?
Really thought this one through haven’t you
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There were hundreds.
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Let’s just take this idea to the next step
The next World Cup final, years in the planning, played to a worldwide audience, heads of state attending untold millions in advertising and some moron shouts some abuse at one of the players 2 mins in, do you call the whole thing off and send everyone home?
comment by wearethefamousTHFC (U19211)
posted 1 minute ago
They need banning from next qualifing tournament
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I would add friendlies in the time period aswel.. bulgarian fa would try and find a solution if you did that.
comment by Metro.⚽️ (U6770)
posted 3 minutes ago
comment by Pineapple Chunks (U1449)
posted 1 minute ago
So you’ve paid hundreds of pounds and taken time off work to travel across Europe to support England and some local nobheads start shouting racial abuse and you want the game ended and forfeited immediately?
Really thought this one through haven’t you
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There were hundreds.
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Doesnt change the point
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comment by Pineapple Chunks (U1449)
posted 28 seconds ago
Let’s just take this idea to the next step
The next World Cup final, years in the planning, played to a worldwide audience, heads of state attending untold millions in advertising and some moron shouts some abuse at one of the players 2 mins in, do you call the whole thing off and send everyone home?
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You’ve gone back to the solo fan situation which I’m happy to admit could be debated further.
But I imagine a team losing a World Cup final because of racism on the terraces would be one of the most impactful messages the world of sport has ever seen.
comment by Blue_mooning (U12093)
posted 14 seconds ago
comment by Metro.⚽️ (U6770)
posted 3 minutes ago
comment by Pineapple Chunks (U1449)
posted 1 minute ago
So you’ve paid hundreds of pounds and taken time off work to travel across Europe to support England and some local nobheads start shouting racial abuse and you want the game ended and forfeited immediately?
Really thought this one through haven’t you
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There were hundreds.
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Doesnt change the point
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Depends what you consider to be of more importance.
Perhaps a fine by UEFA to the Bulgarian FA which could then be used to reimburse fans that had traveled over.
comment by Metro.⚽️ (U6770)
posted 42 seconds ago
comment by Pineapple Chunks (U1449)
posted 28 seconds ago
Let’s just take this idea to the next step
The next World Cup final, years in the planning, played to a worldwide audience, heads of state attending untold millions in advertising and some moron shouts some abuse at one of the players 2 mins in, do you call the whole thing off and send everyone home?
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You’ve gone back to the solo fan situation which I’m happy to admit could be debated further.
But I imagine a team losing a World Cup final because of racism on the terraces would be one of the most impactful messages the world of sport has ever seen.
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So a solo fan is okay as long as it’s not hundreds?
comment by Pineapple Chunks (U1449)
posted 1 minute ago
comment by Metro.⚽️ (U6770)
posted 42 seconds ago
comment by Pineapple Chunks (U1449)
posted 28 seconds ago
Let’s just take this idea to the next step
The next World Cup final, years in the planning, played to a worldwide audience, heads of state attending untold millions in advertising and some moron shouts some abuse at one of the players 2 mins in, do you call the whole thing off and send everyone home?
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You’ve gone back to the solo fan situation which I’m happy to admit could be debated further.
But I imagine a team losing a World Cup final because of racism on the terraces would be one of the most impactful messages the world of sport has ever seen.
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So a solo fan is okay as long as it’s not hundreds?
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No it’s not ok. How have you managed to conclude that from what I typed? Good grief, what a prat.
whos to say it hasnt worked? maybe theyll stop now a load of em got kicked out. doesnt look good on them around the world theyll start getting pressured by their own eventually not just uefa. its a start, lets put it that way... might not be perfect yet but lets see if more needs to happen and if it does hopefully uefa/fifa do whats needed.
comment by Inbefore (U20589)
posted 5 seconds ago
whos to say it hasnt worked? maybe theyll stop now a load of em got kicked out. doesnt look good on them around the world theyll start getting pressured by their own eventually not just uefa. its a start, lets put it that way... might not be perfect yet but lets see if more needs to happen and if it does hopefully uefa/fifa do whats needed.
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Fair shout.
shame bulgarian police just seem to accept it.
comment by Metro.⚽️ (U6770)
posted 49 seconds ago
comment by Pineapple Chunks (U1449)
posted 1 minute ago
comment by Metro.⚽️ (U6770)
posted 42 seconds ago
comment by Pineapple Chunks (U1449)
posted 28 seconds ago
Let’s just take this idea to the next step
The next World Cup final, years in the planning, played to a worldwide audience, heads of state attending untold millions in advertising and some moron shouts some abuse at one of the players 2 mins in, do you call the whole thing off and send everyone home?
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You’ve gone back to the solo fan situation which I’m happy to admit could be debated further.
But I imagine a team losing a World Cup final because of racism on the terraces would be one of the most impactful messages the world of sport has ever seen.
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So a solo fan is okay as long as it’s not hundreds?
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No it’s not ok. How have you managed to conclude that from what I typed? Good grief, what a prat.
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Chucking insults around now, maybe admin should close the site down?
comment by Pineapple Chunks (U1449)
posted 46 seconds ago
comment by Metro.⚽️ (U6770)
posted 49 seconds ago
comment by Pineapple Chunks (U1449)
posted 1 minute ago
comment by Metro.⚽️ (U6770)
posted 42 seconds ago
comment by Pineapple Chunks (U1449)
posted 28 seconds ago
Let’s just take this idea to the next step
The next World Cup final, years in the planning, played to a worldwide audience, heads of state attending untold millions in advertising and some moron shouts some abuse at one of the players 2 mins in, do you call the whole thing off and send everyone home?
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You’ve gone back to the solo fan situation which I’m happy to admit could be debated further.
But I imagine a team losing a World Cup final because of racism on the terraces would be one of the most impactful messages the world of sport has ever seen.
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So a solo fan is okay as long as it’s not hundreds?
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No it’s not ok. How have you managed to conclude that from what I typed? Good grief, what a prat.
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Chucking insults around now, maybe admin should close the site down?
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Looks like you’ve been rattled by it. Will you give me a another opportunity or two?
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How about ban ultras from football, then you'll get none of this.
There have been scinarios where ultras in Europe threaten clubs with racial abuse to gain free tickets.
I saw quite a few fans leaving in 1st half. Did police escort them out for the abuse?
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posted on 14/10/19
comment by Metro.⚽️ (U6770)
posted 7 seconds ago
comment by Blue_mooning (U12093)
posted 24 seconds ago
comment by Metro.⚽️ (U6770)
posted 1 minute ago
comment by Blue_mooning (U12093)
posted 2 seconds ago
comment by Metro.⚽️ (U6770)
posted 1 minute ago
comment by Blue_mooning (U12093)
posted 11 seconds ago
The only way to stop it is ban them from future qualification, or ban them from all international football for a period of time.
Did think it stopped in 2nd half.
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It didn’t. ITV adjust showed replays of it persisting and picked up on the microphones.
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Ok fair enough a few left aswel. Surely they can ban alot of the culprits. Its not like its the majority of the stadium. But then again they will find away in.
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Why should the entertainment value for non racist fans be placed above the racial discrimination of players on the pitch?
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It shouldnt be. But going off shud be last resort.. if you go off after racist chanting. There gonna do it when they start losing badly. Theres no reason for them not to.
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No offence but this is the exact kind of leniency why UEFA continue to bumble over this issue.
Ending the game is fine with me. Slap an automatic 10-0 result on the match and ban them from the tournament.
Going off should be the first resort.
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Banning them from international football is the way. 10-0 to a team that has no chance of qualalifying seems leniant to me.
posted on 14/10/19
comment by Frasier Crane (U3979)
posted 1 minute ago
comment by Metro.⚽️ (U6770)
posted 1 minute ago
comment by Frasier Crane (U3979)
posted 1 minute ago
comment by Metro.⚽️ (U6770)
posted 4 minutes ago
comment by Frasier Crane (U3979)
posted 7 seconds ago
What's the threshold, one fan, 10 fans?
The protocol if enforced is fine. Far far far more people suffer from the match being abandoned that are innocent than are participating in the abuse so just immediately abandoning it is stupid and yet more emotionally driven reactionary drivel.
It's horrendous behaviour and should be stamped out but why make the other paying fans suffer.
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Yes one fan is enough.
The idea that people are suffering because the game is abandoned is an absurd suggestion when players are subjected to racial abuse.
I think that outweighs the entertainment factor of football fans.
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There would be no fans at games in any country in the world then.
Beyond ridiculous
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I think a 3 warning rule for racism on the terraces is ridiculous.
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So 5 minutes into an England game and some troglodyte starts making monkey noises. So you think the game should be immediately abandoned with 90,000 people then having to go home without watching a game.
People spending upwards of 50 quid on tickets, that's 4.5m pounds people have spent gone to waste for one idiot.
You don't think that's a little extreme?
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I understand it’s a difficult subject and I suppose we could chat further about the variables but it also depends on how serious you are about stamping racism out of the game.
I watched a horde of fans tonight chant monkey noises and wee given 2 warnings. If there are people out there that think this is the right way to tackle racism then I simply disagree with them.
posted on 14/10/19
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posted on 14/10/19
So you’ve paid hundreds of pounds and taken time off work to travel across Europe to support England and some local nobheads start shouting racial abuse and you want the game ended and forfeited immediately?
Really thought this one through haven’t you
posted on 14/10/19
Qualifying* had a shocker then haha
posted on 14/10/19
comment by Inbefore (U20589)
posted 4 minutes ago
so then there will be fans sitting opposition stands shouting racist stuff when their teams losing so their team wins 10-0 when its abandoned? yeah nice one.
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I accept that there are variables so I can take back my one fan comment.
Buy a horde of fans chanting monkey noises can’t be given 3 opportunities to stop - surely?
posted on 14/10/19
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posted on 14/10/19
comment by Pineapple Chunks (U1449)
posted 1 minute ago
So you’ve paid hundreds of pounds and taken time off work to travel across Europe to support England and some local nobheads start shouting racial abuse and you want the game ended and forfeited immediately?
Really thought this one through haven’t you
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There were hundreds.
posted on 14/10/19
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posted on 14/10/19
Let’s just take this idea to the next step
The next World Cup final, years in the planning, played to a worldwide audience, heads of state attending untold millions in advertising and some moron shouts some abuse at one of the players 2 mins in, do you call the whole thing off and send everyone home?
posted on 14/10/19
comment by wearethefamousTHFC (U19211)
posted 1 minute ago
They need banning from next qualifing tournament
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I would add friendlies in the time period aswel.. bulgarian fa would try and find a solution if you did that.
posted on 14/10/19
comment by Metro.⚽️ (U6770)
posted 3 minutes ago
comment by Pineapple Chunks (U1449)
posted 1 minute ago
So you’ve paid hundreds of pounds and taken time off work to travel across Europe to support England and some local nobheads start shouting racial abuse and you want the game ended and forfeited immediately?
Really thought this one through haven’t you
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There were hundreds.
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Doesnt change the point
posted on 14/10/19
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posted on 14/10/19
comment by Pineapple Chunks (U1449)
posted 28 seconds ago
Let’s just take this idea to the next step
The next World Cup final, years in the planning, played to a worldwide audience, heads of state attending untold millions in advertising and some moron shouts some abuse at one of the players 2 mins in, do you call the whole thing off and send everyone home?
----------------------------------------------------------------------
You’ve gone back to the solo fan situation which I’m happy to admit could be debated further.
But I imagine a team losing a World Cup final because of racism on the terraces would be one of the most impactful messages the world of sport has ever seen.
posted on 14/10/19
comment by Blue_mooning (U12093)
posted 14 seconds ago
comment by Metro.⚽️ (U6770)
posted 3 minutes ago
comment by Pineapple Chunks (U1449)
posted 1 minute ago
So you’ve paid hundreds of pounds and taken time off work to travel across Europe to support England and some local nobheads start shouting racial abuse and you want the game ended and forfeited immediately?
Really thought this one through haven’t you
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There were hundreds.
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Doesnt change the point
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Depends what you consider to be of more importance.
Perhaps a fine by UEFA to the Bulgarian FA which could then be used to reimburse fans that had traveled over.
posted on 14/10/19
comment by Metro.⚽️ (U6770)
posted 42 seconds ago
comment by Pineapple Chunks (U1449)
posted 28 seconds ago
Let’s just take this idea to the next step
The next World Cup final, years in the planning, played to a worldwide audience, heads of state attending untold millions in advertising and some moron shouts some abuse at one of the players 2 mins in, do you call the whole thing off and send everyone home?
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You’ve gone back to the solo fan situation which I’m happy to admit could be debated further.
But I imagine a team losing a World Cup final because of racism on the terraces would be one of the most impactful messages the world of sport has ever seen.
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So a solo fan is okay as long as it’s not hundreds?
posted on 14/10/19
comment by Pineapple Chunks (U1449)
posted 1 minute ago
comment by Metro.⚽️ (U6770)
posted 42 seconds ago
comment by Pineapple Chunks (U1449)
posted 28 seconds ago
Let’s just take this idea to the next step
The next World Cup final, years in the planning, played to a worldwide audience, heads of state attending untold millions in advertising and some moron shouts some abuse at one of the players 2 mins in, do you call the whole thing off and send everyone home?
----------------------------------------------------------------------
You’ve gone back to the solo fan situation which I’m happy to admit could be debated further.
But I imagine a team losing a World Cup final because of racism on the terraces would be one of the most impactful messages the world of sport has ever seen.
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So a solo fan is okay as long as it’s not hundreds?
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No it’s not ok. How have you managed to conclude that from what I typed? Good grief, what a prat.
posted on 14/10/19
whos to say it hasnt worked? maybe theyll stop now a load of em got kicked out. doesnt look good on them around the world theyll start getting pressured by their own eventually not just uefa. its a start, lets put it that way... might not be perfect yet but lets see if more needs to happen and if it does hopefully uefa/fifa do whats needed.
posted on 14/10/19
comment by Inbefore (U20589)
posted 5 seconds ago
whos to say it hasnt worked? maybe theyll stop now a load of em got kicked out. doesnt look good on them around the world theyll start getting pressured by their own eventually not just uefa. its a start, lets put it that way... might not be perfect yet but lets see if more needs to happen and if it does hopefully uefa/fifa do whats needed.
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Fair shout.
posted on 14/10/19
shame bulgarian police just seem to accept it.
posted on 14/10/19
comment by Metro.⚽️ (U6770)
posted 49 seconds ago
comment by Pineapple Chunks (U1449)
posted 1 minute ago
comment by Metro.⚽️ (U6770)
posted 42 seconds ago
comment by Pineapple Chunks (U1449)
posted 28 seconds ago
Let’s just take this idea to the next step
The next World Cup final, years in the planning, played to a worldwide audience, heads of state attending untold millions in advertising and some moron shouts some abuse at one of the players 2 mins in, do you call the whole thing off and send everyone home?
----------------------------------------------------------------------
You’ve gone back to the solo fan situation which I’m happy to admit could be debated further.
But I imagine a team losing a World Cup final because of racism on the terraces would be one of the most impactful messages the world of sport has ever seen.
----------------------------------------------------------------------
So a solo fan is okay as long as it’s not hundreds?
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No it’s not ok. How have you managed to conclude that from what I typed? Good grief, what a prat.
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Chucking insults around now, maybe admin should close the site down?
posted on 14/10/19
comment by Pineapple Chunks (U1449)
posted 46 seconds ago
comment by Metro.⚽️ (U6770)
posted 49 seconds ago
comment by Pineapple Chunks (U1449)
posted 1 minute ago
comment by Metro.⚽️ (U6770)
posted 42 seconds ago
comment by Pineapple Chunks (U1449)
posted 28 seconds ago
Let’s just take this idea to the next step
The next World Cup final, years in the planning, played to a worldwide audience, heads of state attending untold millions in advertising and some moron shouts some abuse at one of the players 2 mins in, do you call the whole thing off and send everyone home?
----------------------------------------------------------------------
You’ve gone back to the solo fan situation which I’m happy to admit could be debated further.
But I imagine a team losing a World Cup final because of racism on the terraces would be one of the most impactful messages the world of sport has ever seen.
----------------------------------------------------------------------
So a solo fan is okay as long as it’s not hundreds?
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No it’s not ok. How have you managed to conclude that from what I typed? Good grief, what a prat.
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Chucking insults around now, maybe admin should close the site down?
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Looks like you’ve been rattled by it. Will you give me a another opportunity or two?
posted on 14/10/19
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posted on 14/10/19
How about ban ultras from football, then you'll get none of this.
There have been scinarios where ultras in Europe threaten clubs with racial abuse to gain free tickets.
posted on 14/10/19
I saw quite a few fans leaving in 1st half. Did police escort them out for the abuse?
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