Its not strange if you watch the games.
I just love how Hafi cannot differentiate between quality of chances and shots.
Its extremely rare for a side to have better than most title winning sides stats and not win regularly. Its like teams are doing a Chelsea 2012 on us as in they create 1 or 2 chances and score and absorb a barrage of shots and chances.
Looking at the stats Liverpool should have scored around 5 and conceded 5 away from home but have scored 8 and conceded 2. Man Utd should have scored 5 and conceded 2 away but scored 2 and conceded 5. In 4 fixtures away Liverpool have pretty much had a 12.3 point swing on what was expected so we should be 12 points closer to Liverpool in the actual table based on the away games.
Yes Utd are a special kind of sh!t.
Just watch the games hafi, put all this expected bollox in the bin and concentrate on what actually happens and not what some guy who you've never met expects to happen.
Hafi, can you respond to me on a human level. With some humour or acknowledgement that you do come across a bit like a robot ?
We are playing against a side with an expected goal difference of 0.56 in 4 away matches but they have significantly outdone both sides to win 4 away games by 6 goals. On paper Man Utd should be the clear favourites as we are playing a shocking side away from home.
Robb all I am saying is in football teams can be unlucky.
comment by Posh Mufc Great Hafi Not Arrogant Just Better (U6578)
posted 43 seconds ago
Robb all I am saying is in football teams can be unlucky.
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Indeed they can. But can you live with that?
Thats why OGS deserves to stay the season. I said it before that we are averaging higher expected points than the 14/15 15/16 16/17 title winners. Those title winners achieved 87 points 81 points and 93 points and we are on course to finish around on around 43 points.
Is there an expected relegation stat?
Understat have Leicester (4th in the table) second from bottom of the table on expected goals.
Hafi, how do you feel about that?
Thats because they create extremely few chances. Only Newcastle United have created fewer total good chances than them.
Interestingly Leicester Arsenal and Spurs should be in the 10 point mark and bordering on 11. All 3 outperformed what was expected for and against significantly although Spurs as a result don’t gain any points really.
comment by Posh Mufc Great Hafi Not Arrogant Just Better (U6578)
posted 3 minutes ago
Thats because they create extremely few chances. Only Newcastle United have created fewer total good chances than them.
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What do you think is the more ‘fair’ position for Leicester?
4th or 19th?
Rodgers has an extremely negative setup. Puel had a much more attacking setup. Interesting since Emery took over Arsenal concede tons more chances and create extremely few chances compared to under Wenger. Also since Rodgers came in they create extremely few chances and concede similar amount of chances against them. So all Rodgers has done is play negatively in most games and hope to nick a win.
Leicester aren’t a particular creative side but that still surprises me. Though I suppose they’ve probably had the more difficult run of fixtures of anyone in the league. Which is kind of the problem with collating xg and drawing conclusions this early into a season.
https://www.skysports.com/football/news/11667/11838037/manchester-uniteds-ed-woodward-hits-back-at-criticism-of-recruitment
🙂Glad Ed Woodward has come out and is seeing at how great Solskjaer is doing rather than just look at results. The only difference is now we are not getting the results but we are still playing a strong attacking football.
Honestly think people are just clueless about football. Everyone saying Solskjaer should get sacked in the media and worst Man Utd team ever when in terms of domination it is near the best in the PL era. How can the worst Man Utd team ever have been on top of nearly every game this season and allow near 0. Something expected goals against them in nearly every game this season.
Ed Woodward probably getting a striker deal sorted for January in the next few weeks and he owes OGS one for leaving him short.
https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=mXD-IDfVGSY
https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=Ldp90idBaUc
Hafi, please watch a game one day.
https://youtu.be/rUvuzn84fZA
https://youtu.be/NDAXOrOIi3Y
Robb I do watch most games. Even OGS has been saying similar stuff like me about the great chances we miss and margins keep going against us.
It must feel strange as a manager for your side to consistently allow next to no chances against and create a lot more chances than the opposition with a few good chances and miss nearly every time and the opposition to keep scoring a bolt from the blue.
https://www.independent.co.uk/sport/football/premier-league/man-utd-news-latest-solskjaer-woodward-meeting-a9160601.html
Its funny people talk about it being the worst Man Utd team who are 1st on lowest expected goals against stat. In fact its rare to have such low expected goals against stat and still be near the top on expected goals and we have had a few bad decisions as well that were wrong. We have consistently missed key chances this season while the opposition have scored more than expected against us in most games. We scored less than expected in most games and end result is where we are now.
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posted on 17/10/19
Its not strange if you watch the games.
posted on 17/10/19
I just love how Hafi cannot differentiate between quality of chances and shots.
posted on 17/10/19
Its extremely rare for a side to have better than most title winning sides stats and not win regularly. Its like teams are doing a Chelsea 2012 on us as in they create 1 or 2 chances and score and absorb a barrage of shots and chances.
Looking at the stats Liverpool should have scored around 5 and conceded 5 away from home but have scored 8 and conceded 2. Man Utd should have scored 5 and conceded 2 away but scored 2 and conceded 5. In 4 fixtures away Liverpool have pretty much had a 12.3 point swing on what was expected so we should be 12 points closer to Liverpool in the actual table based on the away games.
posted on 17/10/19
Yes Utd are a special kind of sh!t.
Just watch the games hafi, put all this expected bollox in the bin and concentrate on what actually happens and not what some guy who you've never met expects to happen.
posted on 17/10/19
Hafi, can you respond to me on a human level. With some humour or acknowledgement that you do come across a bit like a robot ?
posted on 17/10/19
We are playing against a side with an expected goal difference of 0.56 in 4 away matches but they have significantly outdone both sides to win 4 away games by 6 goals. On paper Man Utd should be the clear favourites as we are playing a shocking side away from home.
posted on 17/10/19
Robb all I am saying is in football teams can be unlucky.
posted on 17/10/19
comment by Posh Mufc Great Hafi Not Arrogant Just Better (U6578)
posted 43 seconds ago
Robb all I am saying is in football teams can be unlucky.
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Indeed they can. But can you live with that?
posted on 17/10/19
Thats why OGS deserves to stay the season. I said it before that we are averaging higher expected points than the 14/15 15/16 16/17 title winners. Those title winners achieved 87 points 81 points and 93 points and we are on course to finish around on around 43 points.
posted on 17/10/19
Is there an expected relegation stat?
posted on 17/10/19
Understat have Leicester (4th in the table) second from bottom of the table on expected goals.
Hafi, how do you feel about that?
posted on 17/10/19
Thats because they create extremely few chances. Only Newcastle United have created fewer total good chances than them.
posted on 17/10/19
Interestingly Leicester Arsenal and Spurs should be in the 10 point mark and bordering on 11. All 3 outperformed what was expected for and against significantly although Spurs as a result don’t gain any points really.
posted on 17/10/19
comment by Posh Mufc Great Hafi Not Arrogant Just Better (U6578)
posted 3 minutes ago
Thats because they create extremely few chances. Only Newcastle United have created fewer total good chances than them.
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What do you think is the more ‘fair’ position for Leicester?
4th or 19th?
posted on 17/10/19
Rodgers has an extremely negative setup. Puel had a much more attacking setup. Interesting since Emery took over Arsenal concede tons more chances and create extremely few chances compared to under Wenger. Also since Rodgers came in they create extremely few chances and concede similar amount of chances against them. So all Rodgers has done is play negatively in most games and hope to nick a win.
posted on 17/10/19
Leicester aren’t a particular creative side but that still surprises me. Though I suppose they’ve probably had the more difficult run of fixtures of anyone in the league. Which is kind of the problem with collating xg and drawing conclusions this early into a season.
posted on 18/10/19
https://www.skysports.com/football/news/11667/11838037/manchester-uniteds-ed-woodward-hits-back-at-criticism-of-recruitment
🙂Glad Ed Woodward has come out and is seeing at how great Solskjaer is doing rather than just look at results. The only difference is now we are not getting the results but we are still playing a strong attacking football.
Honestly think people are just clueless about football. Everyone saying Solskjaer should get sacked in the media and worst Man Utd team ever when in terms of domination it is near the best in the PL era. How can the worst Man Utd team ever have been on top of nearly every game this season and allow near 0. Something expected goals against them in nearly every game this season.
Ed Woodward probably getting a striker deal sorted for January in the next few weeks and he owes OGS one for leaving him short.
https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=mXD-IDfVGSY
https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=Ldp90idBaUc
posted on 18/10/19
Hafi, please watch a game one day.
posted on 18/10/19
https://youtu.be/rUvuzn84fZA
https://youtu.be/NDAXOrOIi3Y
Robb I do watch most games. Even OGS has been saying similar stuff like me about the great chances we miss and margins keep going against us.
It must feel strange as a manager for your side to consistently allow next to no chances against and create a lot more chances than the opposition with a few good chances and miss nearly every time and the opposition to keep scoring a bolt from the blue.
posted on 18/10/19
https://www.independent.co.uk/sport/football/premier-league/man-utd-news-latest-solskjaer-woodward-meeting-a9160601.html
Its funny people talk about it being the worst Man Utd team who are 1st on lowest expected goals against stat. In fact its rare to have such low expected goals against stat and still be near the top on expected goals and we have had a few bad decisions as well that were wrong. We have consistently missed key chances this season while the opposition have scored more than expected against us in most games. We scored less than expected in most games and end result is where we are now.
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