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Super Ed indeed. You seem to support him no matter what. I'm not as critical as some on here, but to say his only role is to sign the cheque is bordering on delusion.
Who do you think appoints the manager for a start.
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Ed deserves every bit of criticism he gets
Look at the state of the club
A fooking laughing stock with this clown at the helm for the last 6 years
52 - I dont support him o matter what.
Re signing the cheques I was talking only on the subject of transfers.
Oles says in this interview, he and Phelan get the final stand we know Judge does the negotiating, so what is left for Ed to do but sign the cheque?
comment by Roys Keane (U11635)
posted 2 minutes ago
Ed deserves every bit of criticism he gets
Look at the state of the club
A fooking laughing stock with this clown at the helm for the last 6 years
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It says it all when us rivals are happy for him to stay in his role
What specifically do you like about ed Irish?
Ed Woodward has been the man at the helm during a period where we've gone from League Champions to 6th place (or worse!). Getting one manager wrong is understandable but he keeps getting it wrong.
I wouldn't advocate banishing him from the club but I would suggest getting a football person in on the board that can help the manager.
comment by Big McTominay (U22257)
posted 9 minutes ago
What specifically do you like about ed Irish?
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What diafoll said.
Although why I bother answering you when you have deleted earlier comments I don't know.
Just my sunny disposition
comment by Diafol Coch 77 - A Reputable Poster (U2462)
posted 17 minutes ago
Ed Woodward has been the man at the helm during a period where we've gone from League Champions to 6th place (or worse!). Getting one manager wrong is understandable but he keeps getting it wrong.
I wouldn't advocate banishing him from the club but I would suggest getting a football person in on the board that can help the manager.
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Losing SAF will do that to a club
And who were these obvious candidates he overlooked in favour of Moyes, LVG, and Jose ?
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comment by Greatteamswinit4times- a terrible enemy (U6008)
posted 0 seconds ago
Why did you delete my comment?
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Cant remember now.
Ed has tried a variety of different managers and styles, none of whom seem to be able to get a tune out of the players or take the club forward.
Thats when Ed needs to start looking at himself and the structure at the top of the club.
I don't see how anything will change there, turkeys don't vote for Christmas.
comment by _Viva_Vida (U6044)
posted 3 minutes ago
Ed has tried a variety of different managers and styles, none of whom seem to be able to get a tune out of the players or take the club forward.
Thats when Ed needs to start looking at himself and the structure at the top of the club.
I don't see how anything will change there, turkeys don't vote for Christmas.
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Vida, iv asked repeatedly and nobody can give me an answer. Who are the obvious candidates that Ed overlooked when instead appointing Moyes, LVG and Jose?
comment by Big McTominay (U22257)
posted 12 minutes ago
comment by Diafol Coch 77 - A Reputable Poster (U2462)
posted 17 minutes ago
Ed Woodward has been the man at the helm during a period where we've gone from League Champions to 6th place (or worse!). Getting one manager wrong is understandable but he keeps getting it wrong.
I wouldn't advocate banishing him from the club but I would suggest getting a football person in on the board that can help the manager.
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Losing SAF will do that to a club
And who were these obvious candidates he overlooked in favour of Moyes, LVG, and Jose ?
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We've been through this before on here. Off the top of my head managers like Pep, Klopp, Conte, Ancelotti etc have been available as well as other managers that I probably don't know enough about. At the very least I'd have expected all of our managers to have a similar style. The fact they haven't suggests to me that our strategy has been short-term to say the least.
comment by Diafol Coch 77 - A Reputable Poster (U2462)
posted 9 minutes ago
comment by Big McTominay (U22257)
posted 12 minutes ago
comment by Diafol Coch 77 - A Reputable Poster (U2462)
posted 17 minutes ago
Ed Woodward has been the man at the helm during a period where we've gone from League Champions to 6th place (or worse!). Getting one manager wrong is understandable but he keeps getting it wrong.
I wouldn't advocate banishing him from the club but I would suggest getting a football person in on the board that can help the manager.
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Losing SAF will do that to a club
And who were these obvious candidates he overlooked in favour of Moyes, LVG, and Jose ?
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We've been through this before on here. Off the top of my head managers like Pep, Klopp, Conte, Ancelotti etc have been available as well as other managers that I probably don't know enough about. At the very least I'd have expected all of our managers to have a similar style. The fact they haven't suggests to me that our strategy has been short-term to say the least.
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Klopp didnt want it and Ancelotti got the real job.
Like i say, it's easy throwing Ed under the bus but when you look at each major decision that has been criticised, you can see there is more to it.
Why didn't Klopp want it though? That's the question. Surely we could have tried to be more persuasive? Perhaps if we'd have stated it was a long-term project he'd have got on board? Too late now though obviously.
Pep didn't join City until 3 years after SAF retired. City did seemingly have a plan in place to get him in but I'm sure we could have appealed to his ego to join the biggest club in England and persuaded him?
"The money is there. We've been looking at players and we were close to a couple but it's not right if you don't get the right players. The money is there to strengthen in January and in the summer.
"We're planning and we're looking. We're refining our targets, but just before the summer transfer window ended, the ready-made players weren't there. But the resources are there if the right players are available."
This is one area that I'm with Ole in. No sense in trying to build the ideal team in one transfer window.
You end up panicking and with a bloated squad.
Take your time, find the right players. Fine with me.
comment by Winston (U16525)
posted 32 seconds ago
"The money is there. We've been looking at players and we were close to a couple but it's not right if you don't get the right players. The money is there to strengthen in January and in the summer.
"We're planning and we're looking. We're refining our targets, but just before the summer transfer window ended, the ready-made players weren't there. But the resources are there if the right players are available."
This is one area that I'm with Ole in. No sense in trying to build the ideal team in one transfer window.
You end up panicking and with a bloated squad.
Take your time, find the right players. Fine with me.
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Agree with that, but you also need to have a manager in place that can get the best out of what squad there currently is and I don't think Ole is showing he can do that.
This is why a real football man in the DOF should be, maybe even working with someone like Ole, to build the squad window by window, whilst still managing to maintain some level of competitiveness on the pitch.
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comment by Big McTominay (U22257)
posted 46 minutes ago
comment by _Viva_Vida (U6044)
posted 3 minutes ago
Ed has tried a variety of different managers and styles, none of whom seem to be able to get a tune out of the players or take the club forward.
Thats when Ed needs to start looking at himself and the structure at the top of the club.
I don't see how anything will change there, turkeys don't vote for Christmas.
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Vida, iv asked repeatedly and nobody can give me an answer. Who are the obvious candidates that Ed overlooked when instead appointing Moyes, LVG and Jose?
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What I am saying is, it doesn't matter what the managerial appointment is (right or wrong), the structure above them is set up to make it fail.
Why didn't Klopp want it though...it was supposedly presented to him from a business perspective rather than football... who does that sound like?
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If that's the case then it doesn't surprise me.
Even back in 2013 there was information to hand to see that Klopp is a football romantic. United should have tried to sell the job to him as 'a chance to carry on SAF's legacy and create his own' rather than a business offer.
Mike (U1170)
What you say is logical - I just disagree that we can draw that conclusion so early in the season.
comment by Mike (U1170)
posted 2 hours, 4 minutes ago
comment by Winston (U16525)
posted 32 seconds ago
"The money is there. We've been looking at players and we were close to a couple but it's not right if you don't get the right players. The money is there to strengthen in January and in the summer.
"We're planning and we're looking. We're refining our targets, but just before the summer transfer window ended, the ready-made players weren't there. But the resources are there if the right players are available."
This is one area that I'm with Ole in. No sense in trying to build the ideal team in one transfer window.
You end up panicking and with a bloated squad.
Take your time, find the right players. Fine with me.
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Agree with that, but you also need to have a manager in place that can get the best out of what squad there currently is and I don't think Ole is showing he can do that.
This is why a real football man in the DOF should be, maybe even working with someone like Ole, to build the squad window by window, whilst still managing to maintain some level of competitiveness on the pitch.
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He has said he wants experienced players.
What more could a DOF do?
comment by Greatteamswinit4times- a terrible enemy (U6008)
posted 2 hours, 4 minutes ago
comment by Big McTominay (U22257)
posted 22 minutes ago
comment by Diafol Coch 77 - A Reputable Poster (U2462)
posted 9 minutes ago
comment by Big McTominay (U22257)
posted 12 minutes ago
comment by Diafol Coch 77 - A Reputable Poster (U2462)
posted 17 minutes ago
Ed Woodward has been the man at the helm during a period where we've gone from League Champions to 6th place (or worse!). Getting one manager wrong is understandable but he keeps getting it wrong.
I wouldn't advocate banishing him from the club but I would suggest getting a football person in on the board that can help the manager.
----------------------------------------------------------------------
Losing SAF will do that to a club
And who were these obvious candidates he overlooked in favour of Moyes, LVG, and Jose ?
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We've been through this before on here. Off the top of my head managers like Pep, Klopp, Conte, Ancelotti etc have been available as well as other managers that I probably don't know enough about. At the very least I'd have expected all of our managers to have a similar style. The fact they haven't suggests to me that our strategy has been short-term to say the least.
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Klopp didnt want it and Ancelotti got the real job.
Like i say, it's easy throwing Ed under the bus but when you look at each major decision that has been criticised, you can see there is more to it.
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Why didn't Klopp want it though...it was supposedly presented to him from a business perspective rather than football... who does that sound like?
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He prefers an underdog rather than a financial super club.
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posted on 17/10/19
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posted on 17/10/19
Super Ed indeed. You seem to support him no matter what. I'm not as critical as some on here, but to say his only role is to sign the cheque is bordering on delusion.
Who do you think appoints the manager for a start.
posted on 17/10/19
Comment deleted by Article Creator
posted on 17/10/19
Ed deserves every bit of criticism he gets
Look at the state of the club
A fooking laughing stock with this clown at the helm for the last 6 years
posted on 17/10/19
52 - I dont support him o matter what.
Re signing the cheques I was talking only on the subject of transfers.
Oles says in this interview, he and Phelan get the final stand we know Judge does the negotiating, so what is left for Ed to do but sign the cheque?
posted on 17/10/19
comment by Roys Keane (U11635)
posted 2 minutes ago
Ed deserves every bit of criticism he gets
Look at the state of the club
A fooking laughing stock with this clown at the helm for the last 6 years
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It says it all when us rivals are happy for him to stay in his role
posted on 17/10/19
What specifically do you like about ed Irish?
posted on 17/10/19
Ed Woodward has been the man at the helm during a period where we've gone from League Champions to 6th place (or worse!). Getting one manager wrong is understandable but he keeps getting it wrong.
I wouldn't advocate banishing him from the club but I would suggest getting a football person in on the board that can help the manager.
posted on 17/10/19
comment by Big McTominay (U22257)
posted 9 minutes ago
What specifically do you like about ed Irish?
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What diafoll said.
Although why I bother answering you when you have deleted earlier comments I don't know.
Just my sunny disposition
posted on 17/10/19
comment by Diafol Coch 77 - A Reputable Poster (U2462)
posted 17 minutes ago
Ed Woodward has been the man at the helm during a period where we've gone from League Champions to 6th place (or worse!). Getting one manager wrong is understandable but he keeps getting it wrong.
I wouldn't advocate banishing him from the club but I would suggest getting a football person in on the board that can help the manager.
----------------------------------------------------------------------
Losing SAF will do that to a club
And who were these obvious candidates he overlooked in favour of Moyes, LVG, and Jose ?
posted on 17/10/19
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posted on 17/10/19
comment by Greatteamswinit4times- a terrible enemy (U6008)
posted 0 seconds ago
Why did you delete my comment?
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Cant remember now.
posted on 17/10/19
Ed has tried a variety of different managers and styles, none of whom seem to be able to get a tune out of the players or take the club forward.
Thats when Ed needs to start looking at himself and the structure at the top of the club.
I don't see how anything will change there, turkeys don't vote for Christmas.
posted on 17/10/19
comment by _Viva_Vida (U6044)
posted 3 minutes ago
Ed has tried a variety of different managers and styles, none of whom seem to be able to get a tune out of the players or take the club forward.
Thats when Ed needs to start looking at himself and the structure at the top of the club.
I don't see how anything will change there, turkeys don't vote for Christmas.
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Vida, iv asked repeatedly and nobody can give me an answer. Who are the obvious candidates that Ed overlooked when instead appointing Moyes, LVG and Jose?
posted on 17/10/19
comment by Big McTominay (U22257)
posted 12 minutes ago
comment by Diafol Coch 77 - A Reputable Poster (U2462)
posted 17 minutes ago
Ed Woodward has been the man at the helm during a period where we've gone from League Champions to 6th place (or worse!). Getting one manager wrong is understandable but he keeps getting it wrong.
I wouldn't advocate banishing him from the club but I would suggest getting a football person in on the board that can help the manager.
----------------------------------------------------------------------
Losing SAF will do that to a club
And who were these obvious candidates he overlooked in favour of Moyes, LVG, and Jose ?
----------------------------------------------------------------------
We've been through this before on here. Off the top of my head managers like Pep, Klopp, Conte, Ancelotti etc have been available as well as other managers that I probably don't know enough about. At the very least I'd have expected all of our managers to have a similar style. The fact they haven't suggests to me that our strategy has been short-term to say the least.
posted on 17/10/19
comment by Diafol Coch 77 - A Reputable Poster (U2462)
posted 9 minutes ago
comment by Big McTominay (U22257)
posted 12 minutes ago
comment by Diafol Coch 77 - A Reputable Poster (U2462)
posted 17 minutes ago
Ed Woodward has been the man at the helm during a period where we've gone from League Champions to 6th place (or worse!). Getting one manager wrong is understandable but he keeps getting it wrong.
I wouldn't advocate banishing him from the club but I would suggest getting a football person in on the board that can help the manager.
----------------------------------------------------------------------
Losing SAF will do that to a club
And who were these obvious candidates he overlooked in favour of Moyes, LVG, and Jose ?
----------------------------------------------------------------------
We've been through this before on here. Off the top of my head managers like Pep, Klopp, Conte, Ancelotti etc have been available as well as other managers that I probably don't know enough about. At the very least I'd have expected all of our managers to have a similar style. The fact they haven't suggests to me that our strategy has been short-term to say the least.
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Klopp didnt want it and Ancelotti got the real job.
Like i say, it's easy throwing Ed under the bus but when you look at each major decision that has been criticised, you can see there is more to it.
posted on 17/10/19
Why didn't Klopp want it though? That's the question. Surely we could have tried to be more persuasive? Perhaps if we'd have stated it was a long-term project he'd have got on board? Too late now though obviously.
Pep didn't join City until 3 years after SAF retired. City did seemingly have a plan in place to get him in but I'm sure we could have appealed to his ego to join the biggest club in England and persuaded him?
posted on 17/10/19
"The money is there. We've been looking at players and we were close to a couple but it's not right if you don't get the right players. The money is there to strengthen in January and in the summer.
"We're planning and we're looking. We're refining our targets, but just before the summer transfer window ended, the ready-made players weren't there. But the resources are there if the right players are available."
This is one area that I'm with Ole in. No sense in trying to build the ideal team in one transfer window.
You end up panicking and with a bloated squad.
Take your time, find the right players. Fine with me.
posted on 17/10/19
comment by Winston (U16525)
posted 32 seconds ago
"The money is there. We've been looking at players and we were close to a couple but it's not right if you don't get the right players. The money is there to strengthen in January and in the summer.
"We're planning and we're looking. We're refining our targets, but just before the summer transfer window ended, the ready-made players weren't there. But the resources are there if the right players are available."
This is one area that I'm with Ole in. No sense in trying to build the ideal team in one transfer window.
You end up panicking and with a bloated squad.
Take your time, find the right players. Fine with me.
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Agree with that, but you also need to have a manager in place that can get the best out of what squad there currently is and I don't think Ole is showing he can do that.
This is why a real football man in the DOF should be, maybe even working with someone like Ole, to build the squad window by window, whilst still managing to maintain some level of competitiveness on the pitch.
posted on 17/10/19
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posted on 17/10/19
comment by Big McTominay (U22257)
posted 46 minutes ago
comment by _Viva_Vida (U6044)
posted 3 minutes ago
Ed has tried a variety of different managers and styles, none of whom seem to be able to get a tune out of the players or take the club forward.
Thats when Ed needs to start looking at himself and the structure at the top of the club.
I don't see how anything will change there, turkeys don't vote for Christmas.
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Vida, iv asked repeatedly and nobody can give me an answer. Who are the obvious candidates that Ed overlooked when instead appointing Moyes, LVG and Jose?
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What I am saying is, it doesn't matter what the managerial appointment is (right or wrong), the structure above them is set up to make it fail.
posted on 17/10/19
Why didn't Klopp want it though...it was supposedly presented to him from a business perspective rather than football... who does that sound like?
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If that's the case then it doesn't surprise me.
Even back in 2013 there was information to hand to see that Klopp is a football romantic. United should have tried to sell the job to him as 'a chance to carry on SAF's legacy and create his own' rather than a business offer.
posted on 17/10/19
Mike (U1170)
What you say is logical - I just disagree that we can draw that conclusion so early in the season.
posted on 17/10/19
comment by Mike (U1170)
posted 2 hours, 4 minutes ago
comment by Winston (U16525)
posted 32 seconds ago
"The money is there. We've been looking at players and we were close to a couple but it's not right if you don't get the right players. The money is there to strengthen in January and in the summer.
"We're planning and we're looking. We're refining our targets, but just before the summer transfer window ended, the ready-made players weren't there. But the resources are there if the right players are available."
This is one area that I'm with Ole in. No sense in trying to build the ideal team in one transfer window.
You end up panicking and with a bloated squad.
Take your time, find the right players. Fine with me.
----------------------------------------------------------------------
Agree with that, but you also need to have a manager in place that can get the best out of what squad there currently is and I don't think Ole is showing he can do that.
This is why a real football man in the DOF should be, maybe even working with someone like Ole, to build the squad window by window, whilst still managing to maintain some level of competitiveness on the pitch.
----------------------------------------------------------------------
He has said he wants experienced players.
What more could a DOF do?
posted on 17/10/19
comment by Greatteamswinit4times- a terrible enemy (U6008)
posted 2 hours, 4 minutes ago
comment by Big McTominay (U22257)
posted 22 minutes ago
comment by Diafol Coch 77 - A Reputable Poster (U2462)
posted 9 minutes ago
comment by Big McTominay (U22257)
posted 12 minutes ago
comment by Diafol Coch 77 - A Reputable Poster (U2462)
posted 17 minutes ago
Ed Woodward has been the man at the helm during a period where we've gone from League Champions to 6th place (or worse!). Getting one manager wrong is understandable but he keeps getting it wrong.
I wouldn't advocate banishing him from the club but I would suggest getting a football person in on the board that can help the manager.
----------------------------------------------------------------------
Losing SAF will do that to a club
And who were these obvious candidates he overlooked in favour of Moyes, LVG, and Jose ?
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We've been through this before on here. Off the top of my head managers like Pep, Klopp, Conte, Ancelotti etc have been available as well as other managers that I probably don't know enough about. At the very least I'd have expected all of our managers to have a similar style. The fact they haven't suggests to me that our strategy has been short-term to say the least.
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Klopp didnt want it and Ancelotti got the real job.
Like i say, it's easy throwing Ed under the bus but when you look at each major decision that has been criticised, you can see there is more to it.
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Why didn't Klopp want it though...it was supposedly presented to him from a business perspective rather than football... who does that sound like?
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He prefers an underdog rather than a financial super club.
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