comment by Gingernuts (U2992)
posted 46 seconds ago
comment by IvanGolacIsMagic (U5291)
posted 21 seconds ago
Junker has ruled out another extension.
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Thank fwck for that.
So this Benn Act achieved what other than stop us being as hard nosed as we could have been. Might have changed things. Might not. We will never know.
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Hold your breath on that front, loads of questions were fired at him at once, he didn't directly say that.
Also worth noting it's up to the EU27 leaders and not him.
Doubt there's the political will in the EU to carry on negotiating after this deal is inevitably rejected.
All avenues exhausted and all negotiators on both sides exhausted.
comment by theresgonnaebeashow (U5686)
posted 27 seconds ago
I'm sure it would suit many to split the leave vote like that?
Why not add in the other remain options to the paper to even it up. For the avoidance of doubt the majority view in the UK from a number of polls is no deal.
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Ginger
Read the post. Single transferrable vote doesn't split as you suggest.
As for the polls of which you speak
https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-politics-50043549
Mind you it's all academic anyway, Junker has said that an extension is out of the question. Crash and burn - sorry, no deal it is then.
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That poll has Remain at 34%, and the various Leave options at 46%, to be fair.
comment by Izzy... Thanks for the memories (U3410)
posted 50 seconds ago
Doubt there's the political will in the EU to carry on negotiating after this deal is inevitably rejected.
All avenues exhausted and all negotiators on both sides exhausted.
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Almost certainly their will be.
Merkel's view is expected to be different.
Also if the deal is voted down on Saturday, do you honestly believe they are going to refuse to renegotiate and cause both us and them unnecessary suffering. Doubt it.
"If we have a deal, we have a deal, and there is no need for prolongation"
Juncker stating the obvious, that to me doesn't rule out further talks if the deal is kicked out.
comment by Gingernuts (U2992)
posted 1 minute ago
comment by Mason The King Greenwood (U10026)
posted 58 seconds ago
A few things have changed in the last three years wouldn’t you say?
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Things change all the time. The fact the vote has been thwarted for three years is the travesty I’m sure you’ll agree
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The only difference is all facts remain or leave are on the table.
comment by HB Fash (U21935)
posted 6 minutes ago
comment by Izzy... Thanks for the memories (U3410)
posted 50 seconds ago
Doubt there's the political will in the EU to carry on negotiating after this deal is inevitably rejected.
All avenues exhausted and all negotiators on both sides exhausted.
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Almost certainly their will be.
Merkel's view is expected to be different.
Also if the deal is voted down on Saturday, do you honestly believe they are going to refuse to renegotiate and cause both us and them unnecessary suffering. Doubt it.
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Merkel's view is crystal clear
GT, depends how you define facts. If you are remain they are facts but if you are leave they are fear-mongering.
comment by Gunnerthru (U6675)
posted 1 minute ago
comment by HB Fash (U21935)
posted 6 minutes ago
comment by Izzy... Thanks for the memories (U3410)
posted 50 seconds ago
Doubt there's the political will in the EU to carry on negotiating after this deal is inevitably rejected.
All avenues exhausted and all negotiators on both sides exhausted.
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Almost certainly their will be.
Merkel's view is expected to be different.
Also if the deal is voted down on Saturday, do you honestly believe they are going to refuse to renegotiate and cause both us and them unnecessary suffering. Doubt it.
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Merkel's view is crystal clear
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A view can be crystal clear and different so your point caller?
comment by Mason The King Greenwood (U10026)
posted 3 minutes ago
GT, depends how you define facts. If you are remain they are facts but if you are leave they are fear-mongering.
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I meant everyone knowing now what they are voting for.
comment by HB Fash (U21935)
posted 2 minutes ago
comment by Gunnerthru (U6675)
posted 1 minute ago
comment by HB Fash (U21935)
posted 6 minutes ago
comment by Izzy... Thanks for the memories (U3410)
posted 50 seconds ago
Doubt there's the political will in the EU to carry on negotiating after this deal is inevitably rejected.
All avenues exhausted and all negotiators on both sides exhausted.
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Almost certainly their will be.
Merkel's view is expected to be different.
Also if the deal is voted down on Saturday, do you honestly believe they are going to refuse to renegotiate and cause both us and them unnecessary suffering. Doubt it.
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Merkel's view is crystal clear
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A view can be crystal clear and different so your point caller?
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Can someone of you enlighten me what is going to be the szenario on Saturday when the deal falls through?
comment by Gunnerthru (U6675)
posted 36 seconds ago
Can someone of you enlighten me what is going to be the szenario on Saturday when the deal falls through?
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https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-politics-46393399
comment by Dave The Jackal (U22179)
posted 16 minutes ago
comment by theresgonnaebeashow (U5686)
posted 27 seconds ago
I'm sure it would suit many to split the leave vote like that?
Why not add in the other remain options to the paper to even it up. For the avoidance of doubt the majority view in the UK from a number of polls is no deal.
____________________________________________
Ginger
Read the post. Single transferrable vote doesn't split as you suggest.
As for the polls of which you speak
https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-politics-50043549
Mind you it's all academic anyway, Junker has said that an extension is out of the question. Crash and burn - sorry, no deal it is then.
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That poll has Remain at 34%, and the various Leave options at 46%, to be fair.
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But "to be fair" your assertion was that no deal had the majority view. It doesn't.
comment by Mike (U1170)
posted 1 minute ago
comment by Gunnerthru (U6675)
posted 36 seconds ago
Can someone of you enlighten me what is going to be the szenario on Saturday when the deal falls through?
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https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-politics-46393399
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That's all straightforward then.
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comment by Gunnerthru (U6675)
posted 4 minutes ago
comment by Mason The King Greenwood (U10026)
posted 3 minutes ago
GT, depends how you define facts. If you are remain they are facts but if you are leave they are fear-mongering.
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I meant everyone knowing now what they are voting for.
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Honestly, a lot of people still don’t. Many Brexiters don’t seem to realise this current issue is just the withdrawal agreement. There’s still going to be years of negotiations post Brexit. So this ‘get on with it’, ‘clean break’ or ‘start sorting our country out’ mantra that many spout isn’t something that means anything.
comment by Mike (U1170)
posted 49 seconds ago
comment by Gunnerthru (U6675)
posted 36 seconds ago
Can someone of you enlighten me what is going to be the szenario on Saturday when the deal falls through?
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https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-politics-46393399
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Oh....I see. It's complicated
They are now saying an extension would be granted if the deal doesnt pass.
They’re also saying that Johnson has refused to ask for an extension if it’s thrown out
Fuxakes. What is going on? .
comment by Gunnerthru (U6675)
posted 1 minute ago
comment by Mike (U1170)
posted 49 seconds ago
comment by Gunnerthru (U6675)
posted 36 seconds ago
Can someone of you enlighten me what is going to be the szenario on Saturday when the deal falls through?
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https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-politics-46393399
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Oh....I see. It's complicated
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Like I said earlier, just get us tae fck out out one way or another.
comment by Gunnerthru (U6675)
posted 10 minutes ago
comment by Mason The King Greenwood (U10026)
posted 3 minutes ago
GT, depends how you define facts. If you are remain they are facts but if you are leave they are fear-mongering.
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I meant everyone knowing now what they are voting for.
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I'd argue a vast number of MP's voted on the WA (for or against) not fully understanding it.
The legalese and technical content of the WA (560 odd pages) was extremely complex.
To ask 'joe public' to make a choice on such a complicated and intricate matter (IMO) is probably not a great idea.
Far too much misinformation and reliance on red top media for folk to make a reasonably informed choice either way.
comment by What would Stuart Pearce do? Better than Goze... (U3126)
posted 8 seconds ago
comment by Gunnerthru (U6675)
posted 10 minutes ago
comment by Mason The King Greenwood (U10026)
posted 3 minutes ago
GT, depends how you define facts. If you are remain they are facts but if you are leave they are fear-mongering.
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I meant everyone knowing now what they are voting for.
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I'd argue a vast number of MP's voted on the WA (for or against) not fully understanding it.
The legalese and technical content of the WA (560 odd pages) was extremely complex.
To ask 'joe public' to make a choice on such a complicated and intricate matter (IMO) is probably not a great idea.
Far too much misinformation and reliance on red top media for folk to make a reasonably informed choice either way.
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Like an election you mean?
“We’ve always voted Labour”
“Why?”
“We just have”
Think there will be enough labour mps to vote for Johnson's deal and it will pass
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posted on 17/10/19
comment by Gingernuts (U2992)
posted 46 seconds ago
comment by IvanGolacIsMagic (U5291)
posted 21 seconds ago
Junker has ruled out another extension.
----------------------------------------------------------------------
Thank fwck for that.
So this Benn Act achieved what other than stop us being as hard nosed as we could have been. Might have changed things. Might not. We will never know.
----------------------------------------------------------------------
Hold your breath on that front, loads of questions were fired at him at once, he didn't directly say that.
Also worth noting it's up to the EU27 leaders and not him.
posted on 17/10/19
Doubt there's the political will in the EU to carry on negotiating after this deal is inevitably rejected.
All avenues exhausted and all negotiators on both sides exhausted.
posted on 17/10/19
comment by theresgonnaebeashow (U5686)
posted 27 seconds ago
I'm sure it would suit many to split the leave vote like that?
Why not add in the other remain options to the paper to even it up. For the avoidance of doubt the majority view in the UK from a number of polls is no deal.
____________________________________________
Ginger
Read the post. Single transferrable vote doesn't split as you suggest.
As for the polls of which you speak
https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-politics-50043549
Mind you it's all academic anyway, Junker has said that an extension is out of the question. Crash and burn - sorry, no deal it is then.
----------------------------------------------------------------------
That poll has Remain at 34%, and the various Leave options at 46%, to be fair.
posted on 17/10/19
comment by Izzy... Thanks for the memories (U3410)
posted 50 seconds ago
Doubt there's the political will in the EU to carry on negotiating after this deal is inevitably rejected.
All avenues exhausted and all negotiators on both sides exhausted.
----------------------------------------------------------------------
Almost certainly their will be.
Merkel's view is expected to be different.
Also if the deal is voted down on Saturday, do you honestly believe they are going to refuse to renegotiate and cause both us and them unnecessary suffering. Doubt it.
posted on 17/10/19
"If we have a deal, we have a deal, and there is no need for prolongation"
Juncker stating the obvious, that to me doesn't rule out further talks if the deal is kicked out.
posted on 17/10/19
comment by Gingernuts (U2992)
posted 1 minute ago
comment by Mason The King Greenwood (U10026)
posted 58 seconds ago
A few things have changed in the last three years wouldn’t you say?
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Things change all the time. The fact the vote has been thwarted for three years is the travesty I’m sure you’ll agree
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The only difference is all facts remain or leave are on the table.
posted on 17/10/19
comment by HB Fash (U21935)
posted 6 minutes ago
comment by Izzy... Thanks for the memories (U3410)
posted 50 seconds ago
Doubt there's the political will in the EU to carry on negotiating after this deal is inevitably rejected.
All avenues exhausted and all negotiators on both sides exhausted.
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Almost certainly their will be.
Merkel's view is expected to be different.
Also if the deal is voted down on Saturday, do you honestly believe they are going to refuse to renegotiate and cause both us and them unnecessary suffering. Doubt it.
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Merkel's view is crystal clear
posted on 17/10/19
GT, depends how you define facts. If you are remain they are facts but if you are leave they are fear-mongering.
posted on 17/10/19
comment by Gunnerthru (U6675)
posted 1 minute ago
comment by HB Fash (U21935)
posted 6 minutes ago
comment by Izzy... Thanks for the memories (U3410)
posted 50 seconds ago
Doubt there's the political will in the EU to carry on negotiating after this deal is inevitably rejected.
All avenues exhausted and all negotiators on both sides exhausted.
----------------------------------------------------------------------
Almost certainly their will be.
Merkel's view is expected to be different.
Also if the deal is voted down on Saturday, do you honestly believe they are going to refuse to renegotiate and cause both us and them unnecessary suffering. Doubt it.
----------------------------------------------------------------------
Merkel's view is crystal clear
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A view can be crystal clear and different so your point caller?
posted on 17/10/19
comment by Mason The King Greenwood (U10026)
posted 3 minutes ago
GT, depends how you define facts. If you are remain they are facts but if you are leave they are fear-mongering.
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I meant everyone knowing now what they are voting for.
posted on 17/10/19
comment by HB Fash (U21935)
posted 2 minutes ago
comment by Gunnerthru (U6675)
posted 1 minute ago
comment by HB Fash (U21935)
posted 6 minutes ago
comment by Izzy... Thanks for the memories (U3410)
posted 50 seconds ago
Doubt there's the political will in the EU to carry on negotiating after this deal is inevitably rejected.
All avenues exhausted and all negotiators on both sides exhausted.
----------------------------------------------------------------------
Almost certainly their will be.
Merkel's view is expected to be different.
Also if the deal is voted down on Saturday, do you honestly believe they are going to refuse to renegotiate and cause both us and them unnecessary suffering. Doubt it.
----------------------------------------------------------------------
Merkel's view is crystal clear
----------------------------------------------------------------------
A view can be crystal clear and different so your point caller?
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posted on 17/10/19
Can someone of you enlighten me what is going to be the szenario on Saturday when the deal falls through?
posted on 17/10/19
comment by Gunnerthru (U6675)
posted 36 seconds ago
Can someone of you enlighten me what is going to be the szenario on Saturday when the deal falls through?
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https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-politics-46393399
posted on 17/10/19
comment by Dave The Jackal (U22179)
posted 16 minutes ago
comment by theresgonnaebeashow (U5686)
posted 27 seconds ago
I'm sure it would suit many to split the leave vote like that?
Why not add in the other remain options to the paper to even it up. For the avoidance of doubt the majority view in the UK from a number of polls is no deal.
____________________________________________
Ginger
Read the post. Single transferrable vote doesn't split as you suggest.
As for the polls of which you speak
https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-politics-50043549
Mind you it's all academic anyway, Junker has said that an extension is out of the question. Crash and burn - sorry, no deal it is then.
----------------------------------------------------------------------
That poll has Remain at 34%, and the various Leave options at 46%, to be fair.
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But "to be fair" your assertion was that no deal had the majority view. It doesn't.
posted on 17/10/19
comment by Mike (U1170)
posted 1 minute ago
comment by Gunnerthru (U6675)
posted 36 seconds ago
Can someone of you enlighten me what is going to be the szenario on Saturday when the deal falls through?
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https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-politics-46393399
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That's all straightforward then.
posted on 17/10/19
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posted on 17/10/19
comment by Gunnerthru (U6675)
posted 4 minutes ago
comment by Mason The King Greenwood (U10026)
posted 3 minutes ago
GT, depends how you define facts. If you are remain they are facts but if you are leave they are fear-mongering.
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I meant everyone knowing now what they are voting for.
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Honestly, a lot of people still don’t. Many Brexiters don’t seem to realise this current issue is just the withdrawal agreement. There’s still going to be years of negotiations post Brexit. So this ‘get on with it’, ‘clean break’ or ‘start sorting our country out’ mantra that many spout isn’t something that means anything.
posted on 17/10/19
comment by Mike (U1170)
posted 49 seconds ago
comment by Gunnerthru (U6675)
posted 36 seconds ago
Can someone of you enlighten me what is going to be the szenario on Saturday when the deal falls through?
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https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-politics-46393399
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Oh....I see. It's complicated
posted on 17/10/19
They are now saying an extension would be granted if the deal doesnt pass.
posted on 17/10/19
They’re also saying that Johnson has refused to ask for an extension if it’s thrown out
Fuxakes. What is going on? .
posted on 17/10/19
comment by Gunnerthru (U6675)
posted 1 minute ago
comment by Mike (U1170)
posted 49 seconds ago
comment by Gunnerthru (U6675)
posted 36 seconds ago
Can someone of you enlighten me what is going to be the szenario on Saturday when the deal falls through?
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https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-politics-46393399
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Oh....I see. It's complicated
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Like I said earlier, just get us tae fck out out one way or another.
posted on 17/10/19
comment by Gunnerthru (U6675)
posted 10 minutes ago
comment by Mason The King Greenwood (U10026)
posted 3 minutes ago
GT, depends how you define facts. If you are remain they are facts but if you are leave they are fear-mongering.
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I meant everyone knowing now what they are voting for.
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I'd argue a vast number of MP's voted on the WA (for or against) not fully understanding it.
The legalese and technical content of the WA (560 odd pages) was extremely complex.
To ask 'joe public' to make a choice on such a complicated and intricate matter (IMO) is probably not a great idea.
Far too much misinformation and reliance on red top media for folk to make a reasonably informed choice either way.
posted on 17/10/19
comment by What would Stuart Pearce do? Better than Goze... (U3126)
posted 8 seconds ago
comment by Gunnerthru (U6675)
posted 10 minutes ago
comment by Mason The King Greenwood (U10026)
posted 3 minutes ago
GT, depends how you define facts. If you are remain they are facts but if you are leave they are fear-mongering.
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I meant everyone knowing now what they are voting for.
----------------------------------------------------------------------
I'd argue a vast number of MP's voted on the WA (for or against) not fully understanding it.
The legalese and technical content of the WA (560 odd pages) was extremely complex.
To ask 'joe public' to make a choice on such a complicated and intricate matter (IMO) is probably not a great idea.
Far too much misinformation and reliance on red top media for folk to make a reasonably informed choice either way.
----------------------------------------------------------------------
Like an election you mean?
“We’ve always voted Labour”
“Why?”
“We just have”
posted on 17/10/19
Think there will be enough labour mps to vote for Johnson's deal and it will pass
posted on 17/10/19
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