comment by Ole-Dirty-Baz ta’rd (U19119)
posted 1 hour, 57 minutes ago
comment by Greatteamswinit4times- a terrible enemy (U6008)
posted 2 hours, 4 minutes ago
I got RDD banned last time with a simple request to admin. I wonder if it'll be that easy again. He's ruining the site.
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Looks like the snitching has caught on with Liverpool supporters....
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comment by Diafol Coch 77 - A Reputable Poster (U2462)
posted 1 hour ago
comment by Big McTominay (U22257)
posted 3 minutes ago
comment by Diafol Coch 77 - A Reputable Poster (U2462)
posted 52 minutes ago
If he thinks that the club is doing a 'brilliant job' then Ed is more deluded than I thought.
He'd get much more sympathy from me if he said something like "Replacing Sir Alex's influence has been a far greater challenge than we ever imagined. We recognise things haven't gone as well on the pitch as we'd like but rest assured we'll do everything in our power to get the structure right to give our manager the platform to deliver success".
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Ok. But why does he need to say it before you are prepared to accept that is the case and cut him some slack?
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Because if he doesn't believe that they haven't done the best of jobs then he won't believe that he has to change. It isn't difficult to understand that. The first part of solving a problem is admitting you have one.
I make no apologies for going back to this fact but since he's been the man in charge we've finished 7th, 4th, 5th, 6th, 2nd and 6th. I didn't expect title after title after SAF but to oversee a period where we've not even challenged, with all the resources we have, is embarrassing IMO.
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Of course he accepts it. That's why he has taken action (fan favourite whi wants attacking football as manager, considered approach to transfers, re jogged recruitment team)
comment by CurrentlyInChina (U11181)
posted 1 hour, 5 minutes ago
I didn't expect title after title after SAF but to oversee a period where we've not even challenged, with all the resources we have, is embarrassing IMO.
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Nail on head right there.
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Others also have those resources now. Wd isnt responsibkenfor how well run Liverpool and City have been run
comment by Big McTominay (U22257)
posted 3 minutes ago
comment by Diafol Coch 77 - A Reputable Poster (U2462)
posted 1 hour ago
comment by Big McTominay (U22257)
posted 3 minutes ago
comment by Diafol Coch 77 - A Reputable Poster (U2462)
posted 52 minutes ago
If he thinks that the club is doing a 'brilliant job' then Ed is more deluded than I thought.
He'd get much more sympathy from me if he said something like "Replacing Sir Alex's influence has been a far greater challenge than we ever imagined. We recognise things haven't gone as well on the pitch as we'd like but rest assured we'll do everything in our power to get the structure right to give our manager the platform to deliver success".
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Ok. But why does he need to say it before you are prepared to accept that is the case and cut him some slack?
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Because if he doesn't believe that they haven't done the best of jobs then he won't believe that he has to change. It isn't difficult to understand that. The first part of solving a problem is admitting you have one.
I make no apologies for going back to this fact but since he's been the man in charge we've finished 7th, 4th, 5th, 6th, 2nd and 6th. I didn't expect title after title after SAF but to oversee a period where we've not even challenged, with all the resources we have, is embarrassing IMO.
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Of course he accepts it. That's why he has taken action (fan favourite whi wants attacking football as manager, considered approach to transfers, re jogged recruitment team)
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So, finally, we can agree he's done a bad job up to now?
comment by Big McTominay (U22257)
posted 19 minutes ago
comment by CurrentlyInChina (U11181)
posted 1 hour, 5 minutes ago
I didn't expect title after title after SAF but to oversee a period where we've not even challenged, with all the resources we have, is embarrassing IMO.
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Nail on head right there.
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Others also have those resources now. Wd isnt responsibkenfor how well run Liverpool and City have been run
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We don't have anywhere near the resources to match United.
You could blow us out of the water on transfer fees and wages etc.
The fact that we are well run is just showing up Eds incompetence in the role he has as part of the team running United
We don't have anywhere near the resources to match United.
You could blow us out of the water on transfer fees and wages etc.
The fact that we are well run is just showing up Eds incompetence in the role he has as part of the team running United.
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And this is why it'd hurt us United fans more if Liverpool won the league. We can sort of accept City winning it because we'd be able to convince ourselves they've only done it because of their rich owners (even though, in fairness, they do seem to have their sh*t together as well). If you do it though it just magnifies our failures.
The crumb of comfort I have if you win it though is that it may just be the push that the Glazers need. Seeing another American owned company doing much better for a sustained period may just force them into action. Or, they could just carry on coining it in!
comment by Vidicschin (U3584)
posted 45 minutes ago
Nothing Ed has said is anything we didn't already know. I have not thought for a minute that he is picking the players for the manager.
But someone under his employment has and that is down to him and he should have fixed this by now.
And, this didn't absolve him for the shambles of contract negotiations, idiotic wages and transfer fees and his inability to get simple transfers like Maguire and AWB over the line in good time.
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Havent people been saying business people are making football decisions?
And that Ed has the final say on signings?
And can you name someone who could do those deals better / quicker ?
comment by Devonshirespur (U6316)
posted 1 hour, 3 minutes ago
Surely buck stops with Ed.
He may not be scotuing the players but he's put the scouts in place, he may not be coaching the platyers but he has selected the coaching staff.
He and other might point to individuals within this set up failing to do their jobs well enough, but ultimately if they are sacked would you trust Ed to replace them with the right people. There seems to be a catalogue of errors since SAF left and the consistent in all this is Ed
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The recruitment team appoint scouts
Ole appoints coaches
And il say it again, can you name someone who you can guarantee can come in and perform better as CEO of a huge football club like United?
comment by Diafol Coch 77 - A Reputable Poster (U2462)
posted 37 minutes ago
comment by Big McTominay (U22257)
posted 3 minutes ago
comment by Diafol Coch 77 - A Reputable Poster (U2462)
posted 1 hour ago
comment by Big McTominay (U22257)
posted 3 minutes ago
comment by Diafol Coch 77 - A Reputable Poster (U2462)
posted 52 minutes ago
If he thinks that the club is doing a 'brilliant job' then Ed is more deluded than I thought.
He'd get much more sympathy from me if he said something like "Replacing Sir Alex's influence has been a far greater challenge than we ever imagined. We recognise things haven't gone as well on the pitch as we'd like but rest assured we'll do everything in our power to get the structure right to give our manager the platform to deliver success".
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Ok. But why does he need to say it before you are prepared to accept that is the case and cut him some slack?
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Because if he doesn't believe that they haven't done the best of jobs then he won't believe that he has to change. It isn't difficult to understand that. The first part of solving a problem is admitting you have one.
I make no apologies for going back to this fact but since he's been the man in charge we've finished 7th, 4th, 5th, 6th, 2nd and 6th. I didn't expect title after title after SAF but to oversee a period where we've not even challenged, with all the resources we have, is embarrassing IMO.
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Of course he accepts it. That's why he has taken action (fan favourite whi wants attacking football as manager, considered approach to transfers, re jogged recruitment team)
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So, finally, we can agree he's done a bad job up to now?
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I wouldnt say bad. It's a hard job he took on and he has done some good things in tough circumstances.
Why does it need a guarantee?
comment by Robbing Hoody - tell me I can't and I'll show you I can (U6374)
posted 46 seconds ago
Why does it need a guarantee?
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But Michael Edwards fwiw
comment by Diafol Coch 77 - A Reputable Poster (U2462)
posted 9 minutes ago
We don't have anywhere near the resources to match United.
You could blow us out of the water on transfer fees and wages etc.
The fact that we are well run is just showing up Eds incompetence in the role he has as part of the team running United.
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And this is why it'd hurt us United fans more if Liverpool won the league. We can sort of accept City winning it because we'd be able to convince ourselves they've only done it because of their rich owners (even though, in fairness, they do seem to have their sh*t together as well). If you do it though it just magnifies our failures.
The crumb of comfort I have if you win it though is that it may just be the push that the Glazers need. Seeing another American owned company doing much better for a sustained period may just force them into action. Or, they could just carry on coining it in!
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Leicester won it with far less resources than 6 other clubs in the league.
City havent won a champs league despite their HUGE resources. Are they badly ran?
Utd aren't even in the CL Rdd.
comment by Big McTominay (U22257)
posted 1 hour, 35 minutes ago
comment by CurrentlyInChina (U11181)
posted 1 hour, 5 minutes ago
I didn't expect title after title after SAF but to oversee a period where we've not even challenged, with all the resources we have, is embarrassing IMO.
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Nail on head right there.
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Others also have those resources now. Wd isnt responsibkenfor how well run Liverpool and City have been run
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We actually can blow most teams, even in the PL away. And when Ed Started, other than City, no other team were close to our resources.
You can keep making excuses and pick and choose what you believe as long as they stick to your opinion and ignore other aspects that don't. I've engaged with you over this and you're not worth the time.
One has to wonder why SAF praises teams like Bayern and their structure but not United’s under Ed.
comment by Irishred (U2539)
posted 1 hour, 24 minutes ago
comment by Big McTominay (U22257)
posted 19 minutes ago
comment by CurrentlyInChina (U11181)
posted 1 hour, 5 minutes ago
I didn't expect title after title after SAF but to oversee a period where we've not even challenged, with all the resources we have, is embarrassing IMO.
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Nail on head right there.
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Others also have those resources now. Wd isnt responsibkenfor how well run Liverpool and City have been run
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We don't have anywhere near the resources to match United.
You could blow us out of the water on transfer fees and wages etc.
The fact that we are well run is just showing up Eds incompetence in the role he has as part of the team running United
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Pretty much this.
I see RDD is in full utter spacker mode again.
comment by CurrentlyInChina (U11181)
posted 35 minutes ago
comment by Big McTominay (U22257)
posted 1 hour, 35 minutes ago
comment by CurrentlyInChina (U11181)
posted 1 hour, 5 minutes ago
I didn't expect title after title after SAF but to oversee a period where we've not even challenged, with all the resources we have, is embarrassing IMO.
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Nail on head right there.
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Others also have those resources now. Wd isnt responsibkenfor how well run Liverpool and City have been run
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We actually can blow most teams, even in the PL away. And when Ed Started, other than City, no other team were close to our resources.
You can keep making excuses and pick and choose what you believe as long as they stick to your opinion and ignore other aspects that don't. I've engaged with you over this and you're not worth the time.
One has to wonder why SAF praises teams like Bayern and their structure but not United’s under Ed.
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Arsenal, Newcastle, Villa never had our resources and yet they pushed us over the years, even with SAF.
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They didnt have the resources in the years running upto that season though. Plus we had SAF, and yet they still pushed us.
Its.not just about resources. Some managers find gems, stumble on a formation that works, is fortunate with injuries,
Newcastle also blew 15m on a certain striker back then. They had money for the time they pushed us. There is a whole heap of difference now between us and them. We could buy them, if Mike ever wanted to sell.
comment by CurrentlyInChina (U11181)
posted 6 hours, 48 minutes ago
Newcastle also blew 15m on a certain striker back then. They had money for the time they pushed us. There is a whole heap of difference now between us and them. We could buy them, if Mike ever wanted to sell.
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Newcastle Brown Ale subsidised the move for Shearer if I remember correctly.
Anyway. The point stands. It isnt just about who has the most money.
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posted on 18/10/19
comment by Ole-Dirty-Baz ta’rd (U19119)
posted 1 hour, 57 minutes ago
comment by Greatteamswinit4times- a terrible enemy (U6008)
posted 2 hours, 4 minutes ago
I got RDD banned last time with a simple request to admin. I wonder if it'll be that easy again. He's ruining the site.
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Looks like the snitching has caught on with Liverpool supporters....
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posted on 18/10/19
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posted on 18/10/19
comment by Diafol Coch 77 - A Reputable Poster (U2462)
posted 1 hour ago
comment by Big McTominay (U22257)
posted 3 minutes ago
comment by Diafol Coch 77 - A Reputable Poster (U2462)
posted 52 minutes ago
If he thinks that the club is doing a 'brilliant job' then Ed is more deluded than I thought.
He'd get much more sympathy from me if he said something like "Replacing Sir Alex's influence has been a far greater challenge than we ever imagined. We recognise things haven't gone as well on the pitch as we'd like but rest assured we'll do everything in our power to get the structure right to give our manager the platform to deliver success".
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Ok. But why does he need to say it before you are prepared to accept that is the case and cut him some slack?
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Because if he doesn't believe that they haven't done the best of jobs then he won't believe that he has to change. It isn't difficult to understand that. The first part of solving a problem is admitting you have one.
I make no apologies for going back to this fact but since he's been the man in charge we've finished 7th, 4th, 5th, 6th, 2nd and 6th. I didn't expect title after title after SAF but to oversee a period where we've not even challenged, with all the resources we have, is embarrassing IMO.
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Of course he accepts it. That's why he has taken action (fan favourite whi wants attacking football as manager, considered approach to transfers, re jogged recruitment team)
posted on 18/10/19
comment by CurrentlyInChina (U11181)
posted 1 hour, 5 minutes ago
I didn't expect title after title after SAF but to oversee a period where we've not even challenged, with all the resources we have, is embarrassing IMO.
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Nail on head right there.
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Others also have those resources now. Wd isnt responsibkenfor how well run Liverpool and City have been run
posted on 18/10/19
comment by Big McTominay (U22257)
posted 3 minutes ago
comment by Diafol Coch 77 - A Reputable Poster (U2462)
posted 1 hour ago
comment by Big McTominay (U22257)
posted 3 minutes ago
comment by Diafol Coch 77 - A Reputable Poster (U2462)
posted 52 minutes ago
If he thinks that the club is doing a 'brilliant job' then Ed is more deluded than I thought.
He'd get much more sympathy from me if he said something like "Replacing Sir Alex's influence has been a far greater challenge than we ever imagined. We recognise things haven't gone as well on the pitch as we'd like but rest assured we'll do everything in our power to get the structure right to give our manager the platform to deliver success".
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Ok. But why does he need to say it before you are prepared to accept that is the case and cut him some slack?
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Because if he doesn't believe that they haven't done the best of jobs then he won't believe that he has to change. It isn't difficult to understand that. The first part of solving a problem is admitting you have one.
I make no apologies for going back to this fact but since he's been the man in charge we've finished 7th, 4th, 5th, 6th, 2nd and 6th. I didn't expect title after title after SAF but to oversee a period where we've not even challenged, with all the resources we have, is embarrassing IMO.
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Of course he accepts it. That's why he has taken action (fan favourite whi wants attacking football as manager, considered approach to transfers, re jogged recruitment team)
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So, finally, we can agree he's done a bad job up to now?
posted on 18/10/19
comment by Big McTominay (U22257)
posted 19 minutes ago
comment by CurrentlyInChina (U11181)
posted 1 hour, 5 minutes ago
I didn't expect title after title after SAF but to oversee a period where we've not even challenged, with all the resources we have, is embarrassing IMO.
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Nail on head right there.
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Others also have those resources now. Wd isnt responsibkenfor how well run Liverpool and City have been run
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We don't have anywhere near the resources to match United.
You could blow us out of the water on transfer fees and wages etc.
The fact that we are well run is just showing up Eds incompetence in the role he has as part of the team running United
posted on 18/10/19
We don't have anywhere near the resources to match United.
You could blow us out of the water on transfer fees and wages etc.
The fact that we are well run is just showing up Eds incompetence in the role he has as part of the team running United.
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And this is why it'd hurt us United fans more if Liverpool won the league. We can sort of accept City winning it because we'd be able to convince ourselves they've only done it because of their rich owners (even though, in fairness, they do seem to have their sh*t together as well). If you do it though it just magnifies our failures.
The crumb of comfort I have if you win it though is that it may just be the push that the Glazers need. Seeing another American owned company doing much better for a sustained period may just force them into action. Or, they could just carry on coining it in!
posted on 18/10/19
comment by Vidicschin (U3584)
posted 45 minutes ago
Nothing Ed has said is anything we didn't already know. I have not thought for a minute that he is picking the players for the manager.
But someone under his employment has and that is down to him and he should have fixed this by now.
And, this didn't absolve him for the shambles of contract negotiations, idiotic wages and transfer fees and his inability to get simple transfers like Maguire and AWB over the line in good time.
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Havent people been saying business people are making football decisions?
And that Ed has the final say on signings?
And can you name someone who could do those deals better / quicker ?
posted on 18/10/19
comment by Devonshirespur (U6316)
posted 1 hour, 3 minutes ago
Surely buck stops with Ed.
He may not be scotuing the players but he's put the scouts in place, he may not be coaching the platyers but he has selected the coaching staff.
He and other might point to individuals within this set up failing to do their jobs well enough, but ultimately if they are sacked would you trust Ed to replace them with the right people. There seems to be a catalogue of errors since SAF left and the consistent in all this is Ed
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The recruitment team appoint scouts
Ole appoints coaches
And il say it again, can you name someone who you can guarantee can come in and perform better as CEO of a huge football club like United?
posted on 18/10/19
comment by Diafol Coch 77 - A Reputable Poster (U2462)
posted 37 minutes ago
comment by Big McTominay (U22257)
posted 3 minutes ago
comment by Diafol Coch 77 - A Reputable Poster (U2462)
posted 1 hour ago
comment by Big McTominay (U22257)
posted 3 minutes ago
comment by Diafol Coch 77 - A Reputable Poster (U2462)
posted 52 minutes ago
If he thinks that the club is doing a 'brilliant job' then Ed is more deluded than I thought.
He'd get much more sympathy from me if he said something like "Replacing Sir Alex's influence has been a far greater challenge than we ever imagined. We recognise things haven't gone as well on the pitch as we'd like but rest assured we'll do everything in our power to get the structure right to give our manager the platform to deliver success".
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Ok. But why does he need to say it before you are prepared to accept that is the case and cut him some slack?
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Because if he doesn't believe that they haven't done the best of jobs then he won't believe that he has to change. It isn't difficult to understand that. The first part of solving a problem is admitting you have one.
I make no apologies for going back to this fact but since he's been the man in charge we've finished 7th, 4th, 5th, 6th, 2nd and 6th. I didn't expect title after title after SAF but to oversee a period where we've not even challenged, with all the resources we have, is embarrassing IMO.
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Of course he accepts it. That's why he has taken action (fan favourite whi wants attacking football as manager, considered approach to transfers, re jogged recruitment team)
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So, finally, we can agree he's done a bad job up to now?
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I wouldnt say bad. It's a hard job he took on and he has done some good things in tough circumstances.
posted on 18/10/19
Why does it need a guarantee?
posted on 18/10/19
comment by Robbing Hoody - tell me I can't and I'll show you I can (U6374)
posted 46 seconds ago
Why does it need a guarantee?
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But Michael Edwards fwiw
posted on 18/10/19
comment by Diafol Coch 77 - A Reputable Poster (U2462)
posted 9 minutes ago
We don't have anywhere near the resources to match United.
You could blow us out of the water on transfer fees and wages etc.
The fact that we are well run is just showing up Eds incompetence in the role he has as part of the team running United.
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And this is why it'd hurt us United fans more if Liverpool won the league. We can sort of accept City winning it because we'd be able to convince ourselves they've only done it because of their rich owners (even though, in fairness, they do seem to have their sh*t together as well). If you do it though it just magnifies our failures.
The crumb of comfort I have if you win it though is that it may just be the push that the Glazers need. Seeing another American owned company doing much better for a sustained period may just force them into action. Or, they could just carry on coining it in!
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Leicester won it with far less resources than 6 other clubs in the league.
City havent won a champs league despite their HUGE resources. Are they badly ran?
posted on 18/10/19
Utd aren't even in the CL Rdd.
posted on 18/10/19
comment by Big McTominay (U22257)
posted 1 hour, 35 minutes ago
comment by CurrentlyInChina (U11181)
posted 1 hour, 5 minutes ago
I didn't expect title after title after SAF but to oversee a period where we've not even challenged, with all the resources we have, is embarrassing IMO.
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Nail on head right there.
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Others also have those resources now. Wd isnt responsibkenfor how well run Liverpool and City have been run
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We actually can blow most teams, even in the PL away. And when Ed Started, other than City, no other team were close to our resources.
You can keep making excuses and pick and choose what you believe as long as they stick to your opinion and ignore other aspects that don't. I've engaged with you over this and you're not worth the time.
One has to wonder why SAF praises teams like Bayern and their structure but not United’s under Ed.
posted on 18/10/19
comment by Irishred (U2539)
posted 1 hour, 24 minutes ago
comment by Big McTominay (U22257)
posted 19 minutes ago
comment by CurrentlyInChina (U11181)
posted 1 hour, 5 minutes ago
I didn't expect title after title after SAF but to oversee a period where we've not even challenged, with all the resources we have, is embarrassing IMO.
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Nail on head right there.
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Others also have those resources now. Wd isnt responsibkenfor how well run Liverpool and City have been run
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We don't have anywhere near the resources to match United.
You could blow us out of the water on transfer fees and wages etc.
The fact that we are well run is just showing up Eds incompetence in the role he has as part of the team running United
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Pretty much this.
posted on 18/10/19
I see RDD is in full utter spacker mode again.
posted on 18/10/19
comment by CurrentlyInChina (U11181)
posted 35 minutes ago
comment by Big McTominay (U22257)
posted 1 hour, 35 minutes ago
comment by CurrentlyInChina (U11181)
posted 1 hour, 5 minutes ago
I didn't expect title after title after SAF but to oversee a period where we've not even challenged, with all the resources we have, is embarrassing IMO.
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Nail on head right there.
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Others also have those resources now. Wd isnt responsibkenfor how well run Liverpool and City have been run
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We actually can blow most teams, even in the PL away. And when Ed Started, other than City, no other team were close to our resources.
You can keep making excuses and pick and choose what you believe as long as they stick to your opinion and ignore other aspects that don't. I've engaged with you over this and you're not worth the time.
One has to wonder why SAF praises teams like Bayern and their structure but not United’s under Ed.
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Arsenal, Newcastle, Villa never had our resources and yet they pushed us over the years, even with SAF.
posted on 18/10/19
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posted on 18/10/19
They didnt have the resources in the years running upto that season though. Plus we had SAF, and yet they still pushed us.
Its.not just about resources. Some managers find gems, stumble on a formation that works, is fortunate with injuries,
posted on 19/10/19
Newcastle also blew 15m on a certain striker back then. They had money for the time they pushed us. There is a whole heap of difference now between us and them. We could buy them, if Mike ever wanted to sell.
posted on 19/10/19
comment by CurrentlyInChina (U11181)
posted 6 hours, 48 minutes ago
Newcastle also blew 15m on a certain striker back then. They had money for the time they pushed us. There is a whole heap of difference now between us and them. We could buy them, if Mike ever wanted to sell.
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Newcastle Brown Ale subsidised the move for Shearer if I remember correctly.
Anyway. The point stands. It isnt just about who has the most money.
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