comment by ArroinLestah (U22188)
posted 3 minutes ago
So sick of reading vitriol from bitter Celtic fans, it was obvious they were going to be all over this like a rash. Lennon wasn't even good enough for Bolton, obviously now found his level beyond the wall. One massive difference between us and Celtic is we actually have quality players who are able to play the style of football Brendan wants to play, they didn't.
We keep possession, knock it around at the back, draw players out of position and cut through them when the opportunity is there. It's patient, controlled and incisive and Celtic's players simply didn't posses the ability to do that. The difference in class between us and them is massive. I also suspect Leicester will fair much better in Europe next season than he ever did with Celtic because we're a lot better than Celtic.
As for how good is he? I think it's the perfect fit for him and our players because our players are suited to the style of play he wants, that might not be the case at another club like Arsenal for example where the players aren't so willing to put in a shift. I think we average the fourth highest possession in the league and have the highest number of tackles in the whole of Europe. That is a clear indication of how quickly we win the ball back and how hard we work off the ball.
The structure at the club is obviously top class though and we are extremely well run. The recruitment team are brilliant and continue to unearth gems, yes we had a sticky panic buy phase when we qualified for the CL but other than those few iffy windows it's been absolutely superb. That coupled with the added investment in our academy which is also bearing fruit.
This is a team and a squad, with a few additions, that could well challenge for the league again next season, if not this one should things go a little sideways for Liverpool at some stage, not likely I know but also not impossible either. This side just needs nurturing and a few more quality additions. He will be backed financially and I'm sure he will be excited about the prospects of a serious title challenge next season and Champions League football.
I'm not at all worried about his head being turned by any club right now because the reality is we have far more chance of winning the league before the likes of Spurs, United or Arsenal who are all a country mile away and require full rebuilds.
Brendan also doesn't come out with the David Brent comments he became famous for in the past now either.
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comment by Thisishardcore (U9121)
posted 5 minutes ago
comment by ArroinLestah (U22188)
posted 3 minutes ago
So sick of reading vitriol from bitter Celtic fans, it was obvious they were going to be all over this like a rash. Lennon wasn't even good enough for Bolton, obviously now found his level beyond the wall. One massive difference between us and Celtic is we actually have quality players who are able to play the style of football Brendan wants to play, they didn't.
We keep possession, knock it around at the back, draw players out of position and cut through them when the opportunity is there. It's patient, controlled and incisive and Celtic's players simply didn't posses the ability to do that. The difference in class between us and them is massive. I also suspect Leicester will fair much better in Europe next season than he ever did with Celtic because we're a lot better than Celtic.
As for how good is he? I think it's the perfect fit for him and our players because our players are suited to the style of play he wants, that might not be the case at another club like Arsenal for example where the players aren't so willing to put in a shift. I think we average the fourth highest possession in the league and have the highest number of tackles in the whole of Europe. That is a clear indication of how quickly we win the ball back and how hard we work off the ball.
The structure at the club is obviously top class though and we are extremely well run. The recruitment team are brilliant and continue to unearth gems, yes we had a sticky panic buy phase when we qualified for the CL but other than those few iffy windows it's been absolutely superb. That coupled with the added investment in our academy which is also bearing fruit.
This is a team and a squad, with a few additions, that could well challenge for the league again next season, if not this one should things go a little sideways for Liverpool at some stage, not likely I know but also not impossible either. This side just needs nurturing and a few more quality additions. He will be backed financially and I'm sure he will be excited about the prospects of a serious title challenge next season and Champions League football.
I'm not at all worried about his head being turned by any club right now because the reality is we have far more chance of winning the league before the likes of Spurs, United or Arsenal who are all a country mile away and require full rebuilds.
Brendan also doesn't come out with the David Brent comments he became famous for in the past now either.
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he's funny isn't he?
comment by Ole-Dirty-Baz ta’rd (U19119)
posted 47 seconds ago
comment by Thisishardcore (U9121)
posted 5 minutes ago
comment by ArroinLestah (U22188)
posted 3 minutes ago
So sick of reading vitriol from bitter Celtic fans, it was obvious they were going to be all over this like a rash. Lennon wasn't even good enough for Bolton, obviously now found his level beyond the wall. One massive difference between us and Celtic is we actually have quality players who are able to play the style of football Brendan wants to play, they didn't.
We keep possession, knock it around at the back, draw players out of position and cut through them when the opportunity is there. It's patient, controlled and incisive and Celtic's players simply didn't posses the ability to do that. The difference in class between us and them is massive. I also suspect Leicester will fair much better in Europe next season than he ever did with Celtic because we're a lot better than Celtic.
As for how good is he? I think it's the perfect fit for him and our players because our players are suited to the style of play he wants, that might not be the case at another club like Arsenal for example where the players aren't so willing to put in a shift. I think we average the fourth highest possession in the league and have the highest number of tackles in the whole of Europe. That is a clear indication of how quickly we win the ball back and how hard we work off the ball.
The structure at the club is obviously top class though and we are extremely well run. The recruitment team are brilliant and continue to unearth gems, yes we had a sticky panic buy phase when we qualified for the CL but other than those few iffy windows it's been absolutely superb. That coupled with the added investment in our academy which is also bearing fruit.
This is a team and a squad, with a few additions, that could well challenge for the league again next season, if not this one should things go a little sideways for Liverpool at some stage, not likely I know but also not impossible either. This side just needs nurturing and a few more quality additions. He will be backed financially and I'm sure he will be excited about the prospects of a serious title challenge next season and Champions League football.
I'm not at all worried about his head being turned by any club right now because the reality is we have far more chance of winning the league before the likes of Spurs, United or Arsenal who are all a country mile away and require full rebuilds.
Brendan also doesn't come out with the David Brent comments he became famous for in the past now either.
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he's funny isn't he?
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Not half, such a sensitive soul
Should really finish school though.
“So sick of reading vitriol from bitter Celtic fans ...”
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I actually thought that they’d been quite balanced, but I did want a perspective from other teams (well Liverpool and Celtic anyway).
I guess the real nub of the issue that I was getting to was how much of the current trajectory is down to Brendan and how much of it is because we are currently a very well run club? If you believe the media and pundits it’s all Brendan so would we fall apart if he left?
Still unsure how Ranieri pulled that off...& if you ask him he probably doesn't know either...Leicester took advantage of a poor season from other top clubs, that's not to decry their achievement though...Lots of (supposedly) top teams are still to do it
Leicester have got a good crop of players currently though..maybe as good as their title winning side in principle, - BR has got them playing at a very high level
"Lennon wasn't even good enough for Bolton, obviously now found his level beyond the wall."
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Still impressive to be accepted leading the Wildlings though.
(No spoilers please, I haven't seen the last series yet. Although I widely gather it's trash. )
As for Brendan, at the moment it's a bit like Ranieri in that he's come in at a time when things are set up nicely for him to progress and he's doing an excellent job of doing that. Much like Pearson did the dirty work for Ranieri to succeed, so Puel did some (altogether different) dirty work for Rodgers to succeed. Essentially, he has arrived in a favourable situation, and this is precisely why he left Celtic when he did instead of completing the treble treble - it was a train he didn't want to miss.
That said, he's undoubtedly doing a good job. He's been a breath of fresh air as compared to the dour Puel, the players are enthused by his training, and he has adjusted things internally more than Ranieri apparently did. Transfers here are down to a team that goes all the way to the chairman, so while he will have an input it won't be entirely him making the calls on that front. Which is probably the way it should be for the sake of the long-term prosperity and strategy of the club.
I don't think any of us are under the illusion either that Leicester is the ultimate destination or reward for him. He's ambitious and he wants to be competing for the Premier League and other trophies. I'll be surprised if he's still here two years from now, because he will be wanted by the big clubs. However, I am hopeful that the potential of a Champions League campaign with an exciting squad and a supportive board will be enough to keep him over the next 18 months. After that, there may be another club with a setup worth looking at. After all, trying to be objective, all of Man Utd, Arsenal and Spurs look like thankless rebuilding jobs right now. And Brendan doesn't strike me as someone who wants a thankless job. He seems to me like someone who's quite enjoy a little more opportunity at glory.
But who knows. He's fitted into the club well and he's been doing an excellent job. I hope he sticks around for a while. But I don't think anyone's falling into the trap of believing he's Leicester through and through.
Sheriff JW Pepper - "Still unsure how Ranieri pulled that off...& if you ask him he probably doesn't know either..."
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Can probably be explained in three words: "The stars aligned".
comment by The_Dungeon_Master (U4830)
posted 3 minutes ago
Sheriff JW Pepper - "Still unsure how Ranieri pulled that off...& if you ask him he probably doesn't know either..."
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Can probably be explained in three words: "The stars aligned".
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As good as....
I think he's a very good Manager with a very good squad and some excellent players.
The Club is excellently run and with Brilliant Owners, dare I say it but very Good Club Officers as well.
Would he get the same results or have the same impact at somewhere like Forest etc, I don't know?
Undoubtedly he can assess a team and get it running well impressively.
Will he stay and complete the job or be tempted elsewhere is the question, I like many Leicester fans wonder why he would go almost anywhere else?
One thing I did find funny though, some Arsenal fans talking about Rodgers. most were sure Emery is finished and wanted Rodgers to replace him, one said behave, lets wait till Summer and get him, oh the arrogance!
Spurs & Arsenal in a Biatch-slapping contest for his signature....i'd pay to watch that...think others would too..
comment by Jobyfox (U4183)
posted 57 minutes ago
“So sick of reading vitriol from bitter Celtic fans ...”
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I actually thought that they’d been quite balanced, but I did want a perspective from other teams (well Liverpool and Celtic anyway).
I guess the real nub of the issue that I was getting to was how much of the current trajectory is down to Brendan and how much of it is because we are currently a very well run club? If you believe the media and pundits it’s all Brendan so would we fall apart if he left?
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I have to say lecester do strike me as a very well run club indeed, with some top owners who genuinely care and aren't just in it for cash.
comment by ArroinLestah (U22188)
posted 1 hour, 15 minutes ago
So sick of reading vitriol from bitter Celtic fans, it was obvious they were going to be all over this like a rash. Lennon wasn't even good enough for Bolton, obviously now found his level beyond the wall. One massive difference between us and Celtic is we actually have quality players who are able to play the style of football Brendan wants to play, they didn't.
We keep possession, knock it around at the back, draw players out of position and cut through them when the opportunity is there. It's patient, controlled and incisive and Celtic's players simply didn't posses the ability to do that. The difference in class between us and them is massive. I also suspect Leicester will fair much better in Europe next season than he ever did with Celtic because we're a lot better than Celtic.
As for how good is he? I think it's the perfect fit for him and our players because our players are suited to the style of play he wants, that might not be the case at another club like Arsenal for example where the players aren't so willing to put in a shift. I think we average the fourth highest possession in the league and have the highest number of tackles in the whole of Europe. That is a clear indication of how quickly we win the ball back and how hard we work off the ball.
The structure at the club is obviously top class though and we are extremely well run. The recruitment team are brilliant and continue to unearth gems, yes we had a sticky panic buy phase when we qualified for the CL but other than those few iffy windows it's been absolutely superb. That coupled with the added investment in our academy which is also bearing fruit.
This is a team and a squad, with a few additions, that could well challenge for the league again next season, if not this one should things go a little sideways for Liverpool at some stage, not likely I know but also not impossible either. This side just needs nurturing and a few more quality additions. He will be backed financially and I'm sure he will be excited about the prospects of a serious title challenge next season and Champions League football.
I'm not at all worried about his head being turned by any club right now because the reality is we have far more chance of winning the league before the likes of Spurs, United or Arsenal who are all a country mile away and require full rebuilds.
Brendan also doesn't come out with the David Brent comments he became famous for in the past now either.
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Aha hahahahaha.
I haven’t read anything as amusing as this for quite some time.
What a phannie
Baz - Without meaning to sound crude about it, we hit the jackpot with these owners. I'm sure despite what was said, Mandaric would have been happy to sell to anyone who popped up with decent money. The fact we got people who were willing to learn from their early mistakes and build up what is essentially a business structured for success while keeping a family/community feel around the place (we are the only league club in Leicestershire's borders so we're kind of geographically away from even our East Midlands rivals) has been a massive stroke of luck.
The journey we've had as fans since they took over has been nuts.
TB. Were they talking about Rodgers or Vardy? Lol
I don’t think anyone has answered the real question posed by the OP. To the question, who is responsible for Leicester’s current success, the answer is without question is:
42% Owners and management. What beautiful beautiful owners they are.
23% Pearson. He rebuilt the club on which the current foundations have been laid.
21% Scouting system. Of which 62% is down to Walsh.
5% Ranieri for showing us the greatest tactical nouse ever
1% Puel. Boring.
8% Rodgers for doing Puel’s job a million miles better.
So, there is is. Rodgers accounts for 8% of his current success at our club. However the longer he stays, the bigger this number will get.
How can anyone possibly argue with that?
Mersey,
I can’t believe I’ve disagreed with you again!
I had Pearson at 22% and Brendan currently at 9%.
I also think they’re should be a 0.5 in there somewhere as well.
Mersey, you forgot to credit Jon Rudkin, for his sterling work in fixing the fax machine during the summer transfer window.......got to be worth a few % at least. UTF
He is as good as he thinks he is, which was previously a point of derision for other fans.
Now I want BR to save us
comment by Jobyfox (U4183)
posted 1 hour, 47 minutes ago
Mersey,
I can’t believe I’ve disagreed with you again!
I had Pearson at 22% and Brendan currently at 9%.
I also think they’re should be a 0.5 in there somewhere as well.
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What about 8.5% for Rodgers Joby. Can we agree on that?
Lols to Rudkin’s fax machine 😂
comment by Merseysidefox (U4842)
posted 13 minutes ago
comment by Jobyfox (U4183)
posted 1 hour, 47 minutes ago
Mersey,
I can’t believe I’ve disagreed with you again!
I had Pearson at 22% and Brendan currently at 9%.
I also think they’re should be a 0.5 in there somewhere as well.
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What about 8.5% for Rodgers Joby. Can we agree on that?
Lols to Rudkin’s fax machine 😂
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Done
comment by TBaggerin (U11806)
posted 57 minutes ago
He is as good as he thinks he is, which was previously a point of derision for other fans.
Now I want BR to save us
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Do you think he would save you though? Do you think fixing Arsenal is a simple matter of appointing Rodgers?
Let’s put it another way.
In 2015/16 we won the league. It was a fairy tale and a one off. To some extent that’s true and DM said earlier in this thread: “the stars aligned”.
What some lazy pundits failed to discover is that the rise actually started when we got promoted from League One. Owners who came in and made us much more financially sustainable by, amongst other things, buying our ground and investing in our training facilities. They appointed a new manager who changed the culture in terms of an emphasis on sports science and recruiting players for their personality as much as their ability. A rigorous and systematic approach to recruiting players into a system using data analytics. An investment in the local community to ensure fans felt part of and were bought into the longer term project (that’s why they could sack Ranieri as the fans trusted the club over one individual).
We had a bit of a lapse the following season when we invested for the Champions League. Clearly there was no plan to be in this competition and we panicked a bit with our recruitment.
We started again and the transition to a new style of possession football is an obvious strategy that started long before Brendan joined. Recruitment has picked up again and the team has been rebuilt to be (technically) better than the title winning team. This transition has been 3 years in the making.
The pundits are making a similar error to the one they did in 15/16. Then it was a fairy tale and now it’s all down to the manager. A look under the surface might actually reveal that arguably (and Arro would put this less diplomatically) we have better players than some of the traditional top six sides.
We shall see. We might still finish mid-table and all this speculation would be premature, but BR has some great materials to work with at Leicester. A manager, even a very good one, can’t polish a t u r d!
Perfectly articulated Joby.
Gosh you’re so amazing.
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posted on 12/11/19
comment by ArroinLestah (U22188)
posted 3 minutes ago
So sick of reading vitriol from bitter Celtic fans, it was obvious they were going to be all over this like a rash. Lennon wasn't even good enough for Bolton, obviously now found his level beyond the wall. One massive difference between us and Celtic is we actually have quality players who are able to play the style of football Brendan wants to play, they didn't.
We keep possession, knock it around at the back, draw players out of position and cut through them when the opportunity is there. It's patient, controlled and incisive and Celtic's players simply didn't posses the ability to do that. The difference in class between us and them is massive. I also suspect Leicester will fair much better in Europe next season than he ever did with Celtic because we're a lot better than Celtic.
As for how good is he? I think it's the perfect fit for him and our players because our players are suited to the style of play he wants, that might not be the case at another club like Arsenal for example where the players aren't so willing to put in a shift. I think we average the fourth highest possession in the league and have the highest number of tackles in the whole of Europe. That is a clear indication of how quickly we win the ball back and how hard we work off the ball.
The structure at the club is obviously top class though and we are extremely well run. The recruitment team are brilliant and continue to unearth gems, yes we had a sticky panic buy phase when we qualified for the CL but other than those few iffy windows it's been absolutely superb. That coupled with the added investment in our academy which is also bearing fruit.
This is a team and a squad, with a few additions, that could well challenge for the league again next season, if not this one should things go a little sideways for Liverpool at some stage, not likely I know but also not impossible either. This side just needs nurturing and a few more quality additions. He will be backed financially and I'm sure he will be excited about the prospects of a serious title challenge next season and Champions League football.
I'm not at all worried about his head being turned by any club right now because the reality is we have far more chance of winning the league before the likes of Spurs, United or Arsenal who are all a country mile away and require full rebuilds.
Brendan also doesn't come out with the David Brent comments he became famous for in the past now either.
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posted on 12/11/19
comment by Thisishardcore (U9121)
posted 5 minutes ago
comment by ArroinLestah (U22188)
posted 3 minutes ago
So sick of reading vitriol from bitter Celtic fans, it was obvious they were going to be all over this like a rash. Lennon wasn't even good enough for Bolton, obviously now found his level beyond the wall. One massive difference between us and Celtic is we actually have quality players who are able to play the style of football Brendan wants to play, they didn't.
We keep possession, knock it around at the back, draw players out of position and cut through them when the opportunity is there. It's patient, controlled and incisive and Celtic's players simply didn't posses the ability to do that. The difference in class between us and them is massive. I also suspect Leicester will fair much better in Europe next season than he ever did with Celtic because we're a lot better than Celtic.
As for how good is he? I think it's the perfect fit for him and our players because our players are suited to the style of play he wants, that might not be the case at another club like Arsenal for example where the players aren't so willing to put in a shift. I think we average the fourth highest possession in the league and have the highest number of tackles in the whole of Europe. That is a clear indication of how quickly we win the ball back and how hard we work off the ball.
The structure at the club is obviously top class though and we are extremely well run. The recruitment team are brilliant and continue to unearth gems, yes we had a sticky panic buy phase when we qualified for the CL but other than those few iffy windows it's been absolutely superb. That coupled with the added investment in our academy which is also bearing fruit.
This is a team and a squad, with a few additions, that could well challenge for the league again next season, if not this one should things go a little sideways for Liverpool at some stage, not likely I know but also not impossible either. This side just needs nurturing and a few more quality additions. He will be backed financially and I'm sure he will be excited about the prospects of a serious title challenge next season and Champions League football.
I'm not at all worried about his head being turned by any club right now because the reality is we have far more chance of winning the league before the likes of Spurs, United or Arsenal who are all a country mile away and require full rebuilds.
Brendan also doesn't come out with the David Brent comments he became famous for in the past now either.
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he's funny isn't he?
posted on 12/11/19
comment by Ole-Dirty-Baz ta’rd (U19119)
posted 47 seconds ago
comment by Thisishardcore (U9121)
posted 5 minutes ago
comment by ArroinLestah (U22188)
posted 3 minutes ago
So sick of reading vitriol from bitter Celtic fans, it was obvious they were going to be all over this like a rash. Lennon wasn't even good enough for Bolton, obviously now found his level beyond the wall. One massive difference between us and Celtic is we actually have quality players who are able to play the style of football Brendan wants to play, they didn't.
We keep possession, knock it around at the back, draw players out of position and cut through them when the opportunity is there. It's patient, controlled and incisive and Celtic's players simply didn't posses the ability to do that. The difference in class between us and them is massive. I also suspect Leicester will fair much better in Europe next season than he ever did with Celtic because we're a lot better than Celtic.
As for how good is he? I think it's the perfect fit for him and our players because our players are suited to the style of play he wants, that might not be the case at another club like Arsenal for example where the players aren't so willing to put in a shift. I think we average the fourth highest possession in the league and have the highest number of tackles in the whole of Europe. That is a clear indication of how quickly we win the ball back and how hard we work off the ball.
The structure at the club is obviously top class though and we are extremely well run. The recruitment team are brilliant and continue to unearth gems, yes we had a sticky panic buy phase when we qualified for the CL but other than those few iffy windows it's been absolutely superb. That coupled with the added investment in our academy which is also bearing fruit.
This is a team and a squad, with a few additions, that could well challenge for the league again next season, if not this one should things go a little sideways for Liverpool at some stage, not likely I know but also not impossible either. This side just needs nurturing and a few more quality additions. He will be backed financially and I'm sure he will be excited about the prospects of a serious title challenge next season and Champions League football.
I'm not at all worried about his head being turned by any club right now because the reality is we have far more chance of winning the league before the likes of Spurs, United or Arsenal who are all a country mile away and require full rebuilds.
Brendan also doesn't come out with the David Brent comments he became famous for in the past now either.
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Not half, such a sensitive soul
Should really finish school though.
posted on 12/11/19
“So sick of reading vitriol from bitter Celtic fans ...”
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I actually thought that they’d been quite balanced, but I did want a perspective from other teams (well Liverpool and Celtic anyway).
I guess the real nub of the issue that I was getting to was how much of the current trajectory is down to Brendan and how much of it is because we are currently a very well run club? If you believe the media and pundits it’s all Brendan so would we fall apart if he left?
posted on 12/11/19
Still unsure how Ranieri pulled that off...& if you ask him he probably doesn't know either...Leicester took advantage of a poor season from other top clubs, that's not to decry their achievement though...Lots of (supposedly) top teams are still to do it
Leicester have got a good crop of players currently though..maybe as good as their title winning side in principle, - BR has got them playing at a very high level
posted on 12/11/19
"Lennon wasn't even good enough for Bolton, obviously now found his level beyond the wall."
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Still impressive to be accepted leading the Wildlings though.
(No spoilers please, I haven't seen the last series yet. Although I widely gather it's trash. )
As for Brendan, at the moment it's a bit like Ranieri in that he's come in at a time when things are set up nicely for him to progress and he's doing an excellent job of doing that. Much like Pearson did the dirty work for Ranieri to succeed, so Puel did some (altogether different) dirty work for Rodgers to succeed. Essentially, he has arrived in a favourable situation, and this is precisely why he left Celtic when he did instead of completing the treble treble - it was a train he didn't want to miss.
That said, he's undoubtedly doing a good job. He's been a breath of fresh air as compared to the dour Puel, the players are enthused by his training, and he has adjusted things internally more than Ranieri apparently did. Transfers here are down to a team that goes all the way to the chairman, so while he will have an input it won't be entirely him making the calls on that front. Which is probably the way it should be for the sake of the long-term prosperity and strategy of the club.
I don't think any of us are under the illusion either that Leicester is the ultimate destination or reward for him. He's ambitious and he wants to be competing for the Premier League and other trophies. I'll be surprised if he's still here two years from now, because he will be wanted by the big clubs. However, I am hopeful that the potential of a Champions League campaign with an exciting squad and a supportive board will be enough to keep him over the next 18 months. After that, there may be another club with a setup worth looking at. After all, trying to be objective, all of Man Utd, Arsenal and Spurs look like thankless rebuilding jobs right now. And Brendan doesn't strike me as someone who wants a thankless job. He seems to me like someone who's quite enjoy a little more opportunity at glory.
But who knows. He's fitted into the club well and he's been doing an excellent job. I hope he sticks around for a while. But I don't think anyone's falling into the trap of believing he's Leicester through and through.
posted on 12/11/19
Sheriff JW Pepper - "Still unsure how Ranieri pulled that off...& if you ask him he probably doesn't know either..."
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Can probably be explained in three words: "The stars aligned".
posted on 12/11/19
comment by The_Dungeon_Master (U4830)
posted 3 minutes ago
Sheriff JW Pepper - "Still unsure how Ranieri pulled that off...& if you ask him he probably doesn't know either..."
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Can probably be explained in three words: "The stars aligned".
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As good as....
posted on 12/11/19
I think he's a very good Manager with a very good squad and some excellent players.
The Club is excellently run and with Brilliant Owners, dare I say it but very Good Club Officers as well.
Would he get the same results or have the same impact at somewhere like Forest etc, I don't know?
Undoubtedly he can assess a team and get it running well impressively.
Will he stay and complete the job or be tempted elsewhere is the question, I like many Leicester fans wonder why he would go almost anywhere else?
One thing I did find funny though, some Arsenal fans talking about Rodgers. most were sure Emery is finished and wanted Rodgers to replace him, one said behave, lets wait till Summer and get him, oh the arrogance!
posted on 12/11/19
Spurs & Arsenal in a Biatch-slapping contest for his signature....i'd pay to watch that...think others would too..
posted on 12/11/19
comment by Jobyfox (U4183)
posted 57 minutes ago
“So sick of reading vitriol from bitter Celtic fans ...”
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I actually thought that they’d been quite balanced, but I did want a perspective from other teams (well Liverpool and Celtic anyway).
I guess the real nub of the issue that I was getting to was how much of the current trajectory is down to Brendan and how much of it is because we are currently a very well run club? If you believe the media and pundits it’s all Brendan so would we fall apart if he left?
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I have to say lecester do strike me as a very well run club indeed, with some top owners who genuinely care and aren't just in it for cash.
posted on 12/11/19
comment by ArroinLestah (U22188)
posted 1 hour, 15 minutes ago
So sick of reading vitriol from bitter Celtic fans, it was obvious they were going to be all over this like a rash. Lennon wasn't even good enough for Bolton, obviously now found his level beyond the wall. One massive difference between us and Celtic is we actually have quality players who are able to play the style of football Brendan wants to play, they didn't.
We keep possession, knock it around at the back, draw players out of position and cut through them when the opportunity is there. It's patient, controlled and incisive and Celtic's players simply didn't posses the ability to do that. The difference in class between us and them is massive. I also suspect Leicester will fair much better in Europe next season than he ever did with Celtic because we're a lot better than Celtic.
As for how good is he? I think it's the perfect fit for him and our players because our players are suited to the style of play he wants, that might not be the case at another club like Arsenal for example where the players aren't so willing to put in a shift. I think we average the fourth highest possession in the league and have the highest number of tackles in the whole of Europe. That is a clear indication of how quickly we win the ball back and how hard we work off the ball.
The structure at the club is obviously top class though and we are extremely well run. The recruitment team are brilliant and continue to unearth gems, yes we had a sticky panic buy phase when we qualified for the CL but other than those few iffy windows it's been absolutely superb. That coupled with the added investment in our academy which is also bearing fruit.
This is a team and a squad, with a few additions, that could well challenge for the league again next season, if not this one should things go a little sideways for Liverpool at some stage, not likely I know but also not impossible either. This side just needs nurturing and a few more quality additions. He will be backed financially and I'm sure he will be excited about the prospects of a serious title challenge next season and Champions League football.
I'm not at all worried about his head being turned by any club right now because the reality is we have far more chance of winning the league before the likes of Spurs, United or Arsenal who are all a country mile away and require full rebuilds.
Brendan also doesn't come out with the David Brent comments he became famous for in the past now either.
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Aha hahahahaha.
I haven’t read anything as amusing as this for quite some time.
What a phannie
posted on 12/11/19
Baz - Without meaning to sound crude about it, we hit the jackpot with these owners. I'm sure despite what was said, Mandaric would have been happy to sell to anyone who popped up with decent money. The fact we got people who were willing to learn from their early mistakes and build up what is essentially a business structured for success while keeping a family/community feel around the place (we are the only league club in Leicestershire's borders so we're kind of geographically away from even our East Midlands rivals) has been a massive stroke of luck.
The journey we've had as fans since they took over has been nuts.
posted on 12/11/19
TB. Were they talking about Rodgers or Vardy? Lol
posted on 12/11/19
I don’t think anyone has answered the real question posed by the OP. To the question, who is responsible for Leicester’s current success, the answer is without question is:
42% Owners and management. What beautiful beautiful owners they are.
23% Pearson. He rebuilt the club on which the current foundations have been laid.
21% Scouting system. Of which 62% is down to Walsh.
5% Ranieri for showing us the greatest tactical nouse ever
1% Puel. Boring.
8% Rodgers for doing Puel’s job a million miles better.
So, there is is. Rodgers accounts for 8% of his current success at our club. However the longer he stays, the bigger this number will get.
How can anyone possibly argue with that?
posted on 12/11/19
.... waiting for it...
posted on 12/11/19
Mersey,
I can’t believe I’ve disagreed with you again!
I had Pearson at 22% and Brendan currently at 9%.
I also think they’re should be a 0.5 in there somewhere as well.
posted on 12/11/19
Mersey, you forgot to credit Jon Rudkin, for his sterling work in fixing the fax machine during the summer transfer window.......got to be worth a few % at least. UTF
posted on 12/11/19
He is as good as he thinks he is, which was previously a point of derision for other fans.
Now I want BR to save us
posted on 12/11/19
comment by Jobyfox (U4183)
posted 1 hour, 47 minutes ago
Mersey,
I can’t believe I’ve disagreed with you again!
I had Pearson at 22% and Brendan currently at 9%.
I also think they’re should be a 0.5 in there somewhere as well.
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What about 8.5% for Rodgers Joby. Can we agree on that?
Lols to Rudkin’s fax machine 😂
posted on 12/11/19
comment by Merseysidefox (U4842)
posted 13 minutes ago
comment by Jobyfox (U4183)
posted 1 hour, 47 minutes ago
Mersey,
I can’t believe I’ve disagreed with you again!
I had Pearson at 22% and Brendan currently at 9%.
I also think they’re should be a 0.5 in there somewhere as well.
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What about 8.5% for Rodgers Joby. Can we agree on that?
Lols to Rudkin’s fax machine 😂
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Done
posted on 12/11/19
comment by TBaggerin (U11806)
posted 57 minutes ago
He is as good as he thinks he is, which was previously a point of derision for other fans.
Now I want BR to save us
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Do you think he would save you though? Do you think fixing Arsenal is a simple matter of appointing Rodgers?
posted on 12/11/19
Who gave someone a .5?
posted on 12/11/19
Let’s put it another way.
In 2015/16 we won the league. It was a fairy tale and a one off. To some extent that’s true and DM said earlier in this thread: “the stars aligned”.
What some lazy pundits failed to discover is that the rise actually started when we got promoted from League One. Owners who came in and made us much more financially sustainable by, amongst other things, buying our ground and investing in our training facilities. They appointed a new manager who changed the culture in terms of an emphasis on sports science and recruiting players for their personality as much as their ability. A rigorous and systematic approach to recruiting players into a system using data analytics. An investment in the local community to ensure fans felt part of and were bought into the longer term project (that’s why they could sack Ranieri as the fans trusted the club over one individual).
We had a bit of a lapse the following season when we invested for the Champions League. Clearly there was no plan to be in this competition and we panicked a bit with our recruitment.
We started again and the transition to a new style of possession football is an obvious strategy that started long before Brendan joined. Recruitment has picked up again and the team has been rebuilt to be (technically) better than the title winning team. This transition has been 3 years in the making.
The pundits are making a similar error to the one they did in 15/16. Then it was a fairy tale and now it’s all down to the manager. A look under the surface might actually reveal that arguably (and Arro would put this less diplomatically) we have better players than some of the traditional top six sides.
We shall see. We might still finish mid-table and all this speculation would be premature, but BR has some great materials to work with at Leicester. A manager, even a very good one, can’t polish a t u r d!
posted on 12/11/19
Perfectly articulated Joby.
Gosh you’re so amazing.
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