Oh shut up troll. You’re becoming a bore.
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You seem offended tbh.
The law means little and you suggesting that it's the history rather than the actual picture that is the problem is quite frankly stupid.
You could show me a bit of ww2 propaganda of a jewish character, have it bang full of tropes but have no indication of what it was or where from and I would susoect its racist. Post it next to Alan Sugar and here we are.
My reaction? Like Im going nuts or something? Stop being silly. Youve really lost your sh!t these past few days.
comment by Robbing Hoody - tell me I can't and I'll show you I can (U6374)
posted 40 seconds ago
You seem offended tbh.
The law means little and you suggesting that it's the history rather than the actual picture that is the problem is quite frankly stupid.
You could show me a bit of ww2 propaganda of a jewish character, have it bang full of tropes but have no indication of what it was or where from and I would susoect its racist. Post it next to Alan Sugar and here we are.
My reaction? Like Im going nuts or something? Stop being silly. Youve really lost your sh!t these past few days.
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Sounds like you’re the one losing your sh!t here. Nothing new there then.
The law means little?
Great debating skills here.
Sounds like you’re the one losing your sh!t here
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I dont think it does.
Yes the law means little, otherwise apartheid would have been all good.
I dont think youd see that image in Britain either which means you think geographical location can determine what's valid and what's not. Or at the very least someone else can determine what I should and shouldnt deem right and wrong.
Youre all over the place imo.
You’re comparing a cartoon image on packs of chocolate sold in shops today with racial segregation in South Africa that ended 25 years ago, and I’m the one who is all over the place?
You really don’t have a clue what you’re talking about, do you.
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posted 10 hours, 45 minutes ago
comment by Sheriff JW Pepper (U1007)
posted 2 hours, 46 minutes ago
So...does Mendy look like this character...?
I think flores at Watford looks like Gregory House (Hugh Lawrie)
Is this racist or actorist - just wondering
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Is Hugh Lawrie a cartoon based on racist tropes?
No.
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But Hugh Lawrie is English and Flores is Spanish...there's a race issue here surely whereby one looks like another for no other reason than they do
Well...no more than a cartoon on some food that is apparently quite acceptable...if someone looks like something it's just that...
Neither item exactly the black and white minstrel show is it
comment by Greatteamswinit4times- a terrible enemy (U6008)
posted 15 minutes ago
Strong debating from Winston on this thread. A.good effort by him all round. Well done everyone for sticking to the subject and not getting personal.
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Early start for the forum troll
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comment by Sheriff JW Pepper (U1007)
posted 27 minutes ago
comment by Robbing Hoody - tell me I can't and I... (U6374)
posted 10 hours, 45 minutes ago
comment by Sheriff JW Pepper (U1007)
posted 2 hours, 46 minutes ago
So...does Mendy look like this character...?
I think flores at Watford looks like Gregory House (Hugh Lawrie)
Is this racist or actorist - just wondering
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Is Hugh Lawrie a cartoon based on racist tropes?
No.
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But Hugh Lawrie is English and Flores is Spanish...there's a race issue here surely whereby one looks like another for no other reason than they do
Well...no more than a cartoon on some food that is apparently quite acceptable...if someone looks like something it's just that...
Neither item exactly the black and white minstrel show is it
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https://www.mirror.co.uk/tv/tv-news/black-white-minstrel-show-most-2077085
For those who have never seen or heard of it....not the BBC's finest twenty odd years really
Not only was it racist..it was fack awful television in it's own right
comment by Winston (U16525)
posted 3 hours, 32 minutes ago
You’re comparing a cartoon image on packs of chocolate sold in shops today with racial segregation in South Africa that ended 25 years ago, and I’m the one who is all over the place?
You really don’t have a clue what you’re talking about, do you.
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Winston still drunk after his mare last night.
No Winston apartheid was an example of the law meaning little.
You idiot
comment by Robbing Hoody - tell me I can't and I'll show you I can (U6374)
posted 38 minutes ago
comment by Winston (U16525)
posted 3 hours, 32 minutes ago
You’re comparing a cartoon image on packs of chocolate sold in shops today with racial segregation in South Africa that ended 25 years ago, and I’m the one who is all over the place?
You really don’t have a clue what you’re talking about, do you.
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Winston still drunk after his mare last night.
No Winston apartheid was an example of the law meaning little.
You idiot
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It's an absurd comparison.
25 years old and on a different continent.
On the Suarez thing, I think evra made the most of what was undoubtedly an insult, Suarez rightly got punished. . However evra is an unhinged lunatic, arguably worse than Suarez, so I'd take his word with a punch of salt, sure he's a club legend and great player, but I don't have to like or respect him. I think he needs help.
comment by Winston (U16525)
posted 19 minutes ago
comment by Robbing Hoody - tell me I can't and I'll show you I can (U6374)
posted 38 minutes ago
comment by Winston (U16525)
posted 3 hours, 32 minutes ago
You’re comparing a cartoon image on packs of chocolate sold in shops today with racial segregation in South Africa that ended 25 years ago, and I’m the one who is all over the place?
You really don’t have a clue what you’re talking about, do you.
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Winston still drunk after his mare last night.
No Winston apartheid was an example of the law meaning little.
You idiot
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It's an absurd comparison.
25 years old and on a different continent.
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It's not a comparison, it's an example of the law meaning little.
Ive said it before and I'll say it again, if you were half as bright as you thought you were youd be dangerous but you've had an absolute mare this week. It's pretty clear this forum is getting to you.
The way I see it, what we have here is an image on a pack of chocolate that is currently legal in a developed European country. The history of the image may well have racial connotations, but it is not the same image anymore and given that it appears in thousands of shops up and down the country, you'd surely be forgiven for not knowing about any previous versions of that image.
There are different groups of people in this:
1. The people involved. The person receiving the 'joke' has expressed no offence and apparently saw nothing wrong with the incident.
2. The people actively complaining, like Robbing. Most likely wouldn't bat an eyelid if they walked through a Spanish shop past this chocolate wrapper and had no prior knowledge of the history of this image, but have since researched it because they have heard that other people have complained about the usage of it.
3. People who have complained because they are personally offended by the tweet.
I've not seen a single example of number 3. Not one.
Seems to me that the people who complained initially, did so mainly because Silva was comparing his mate to a black cartoon character.
That then led to a wider series of complaints that were strengthened by people's research into the history of the character.
But right at the heart of this, we have a bloke who said to his mate that he looked like a character on a chocolate wrapper in the supermarket.
Sure, he said it in front of 600k people. So what?
If anyone can point me to someone in group 3. then I would listen to them. Otherwise, I suggest people shut up about a subject they almost certainly don't understand.
Robbing Hoody - tell me I can't and I'll show you I can (U6374)
Yes, and you're comparing a law 25 years ago from Africa with a law from the present day in Europe - not to mention a law that relates to a racist government and economic state vs image on a chocolate wrapper.
It's absurd.
Bring on the personal insults - you're far better at those than you are at intelligent debate.
Seems to me that the people who complained initially, did so mainly because Silva was comparing his mate to a black cartoon character.
That then led to a wider series of complaints that were strengthened by people's research into the history of the character.
But right at the heart of this, we have a bloke who said to his mate that he looked like a character on a chocolate wrapper in the supermarket.
Sure, he said it in front of 600k people. So what?
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Agree with all this.
It's amazing what you can actually add to the debate when you're not insulting people and causing arguments.
There'sOnlyOneRed's (U1721)
It really is, yet no matter how hard I try, some of your buddies just can't help themselves and it ruins the threads.
I'm glad that you recognise the flaws in their behaviour, TOOR.
comment by Winston (U16525)
posted 2 minutes ago
There'sOnlyOneRed's (U1721)
It really is, yet no matter how hard I try, some of your buddies just can't help themselves and it ruins the threads.
I'm glad that you recognise the flaws in their behaviour, TOOR.
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Oh. I see what you did there.
comment by There'sOnlyOneRed's (U1721)
posted 54 seconds ago
comment by Winston (U16525)
posted 2 minutes ago
There'sOnlyOneRed's (U1721)
It really is, yet no matter how hard I try, some of your buddies just can't help themselves and it ruins the threads.
I'm glad that you recognise the flaws in their behaviour, TOOR.
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Oh. I see what you did there.
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What did I do? Tell the truth?
comment by Winston (U16525)
posted 1 minute ago
comment by There'sOnlyOneRed's (U1721)
posted 54 seconds ago
comment by Winston (U16525)
posted 2 minutes ago
There'sOnlyOneRed's (U1721)
It really is, yet no matter how hard I try, some of your buddies just can't help themselves and it ruins the threads.
I'm glad that you recognise the flaws in their behaviour, TOOR.
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Oh. I see what you did there.
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What did I do? Tell the truth?
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Juggled on a unicycle.
comment by There'sOnlyOneRed's (U1721)
posted 2 minutes ago
comment by Winston (U16525)
posted 1 minute ago
comment by There'sOnlyOneRed's (U1721)
posted 54 seconds ago
comment by Winston (U16525)
posted 2 minutes ago
There'sOnlyOneRed's (U1721)
It really is, yet no matter how hard I try, some of your buddies just can't help themselves and it ruins the threads.
I'm glad that you recognise the flaws in their behaviour, TOOR.
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Oh. I see what you did there.
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What did I do? Tell the truth?
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Juggled on a unicycle.
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Have you lost the plot, TOOR?
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posted 4 minutes ago
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posted 2 minutes ago
comment by Winston (U16525)
posted 1 minute ago
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posted 54 seconds ago
comment by Winston (U16525)
posted 2 minutes ago
There'sOnlyOneRed's (U1721)
It really is, yet no matter how hard I try, some of your buddies just can't help themselves and it ruins the threads.
I'm glad that you recognise the flaws in their behaviour, TOOR.
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Oh. I see what you did there.
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What did I do? Tell the truth?
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Juggled on a unicycle.
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Have you lost the plot, TOOR?
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That would assume I had the plot in the first place.
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posted on 14/11/19
Oh shut up troll. You’re becoming a bore.
posted on 14/11/19
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posted on 14/11/19
You seem offended tbh.
The law means little and you suggesting that it's the history rather than the actual picture that is the problem is quite frankly stupid.
You could show me a bit of ww2 propaganda of a jewish character, have it bang full of tropes but have no indication of what it was or where from and I would susoect its racist. Post it next to Alan Sugar and here we are.
My reaction? Like Im going nuts or something? Stop being silly. Youve really lost your sh!t these past few days.
posted on 14/11/19
comment by Robbing Hoody - tell me I can't and I'll show you I can (U6374)
posted 40 seconds ago
You seem offended tbh.
The law means little and you suggesting that it's the history rather than the actual picture that is the problem is quite frankly stupid.
You could show me a bit of ww2 propaganda of a jewish character, have it bang full of tropes but have no indication of what it was or where from and I would susoect its racist. Post it next to Alan Sugar and here we are.
My reaction? Like Im going nuts or something? Stop being silly. Youve really lost your sh!t these past few days.
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Sounds like you’re the one losing your sh!t here. Nothing new there then.
The law means little?
Great debating skills here.
posted on 14/11/19
Sounds like you’re the one losing your sh!t here
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I dont think it does.
Yes the law means little, otherwise apartheid would have been all good.
I dont think youd see that image in Britain either which means you think geographical location can determine what's valid and what's not. Or at the very least someone else can determine what I should and shouldnt deem right and wrong.
Youre all over the place imo.
posted on 15/11/19
You’re comparing a cartoon image on packs of chocolate sold in shops today with racial segregation in South Africa that ended 25 years ago, and I’m the one who is all over the place?
You really don’t have a clue what you’re talking about, do you.
posted on 15/11/19
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posted on 15/11/19
comment by Robbing Hoody - tell me I can't and I... (U6374)
posted 10 hours, 45 minutes ago
comment by Sheriff JW Pepper (U1007)
posted 2 hours, 46 minutes ago
So...does Mendy look like this character...?
I think flores at Watford looks like Gregory House (Hugh Lawrie)
Is this racist or actorist - just wondering
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Is Hugh Lawrie a cartoon based on racist tropes?
No.
----------------------------------------------------------------------
But Hugh Lawrie is English and Flores is Spanish...there's a race issue here surely whereby one looks like another for no other reason than they do
Well...no more than a cartoon on some food that is apparently quite acceptable...if someone looks like something it's just that...
Neither item exactly the black and white minstrel show is it
posted on 15/11/19
comment by Greatteamswinit4times- a terrible enemy (U6008)
posted 15 minutes ago
Strong debating from Winston on this thread. A.good effort by him all round. Well done everyone for sticking to the subject and not getting personal.
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Early start for the forum troll
posted on 15/11/19
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posted on 15/11/19
comment by Sheriff JW Pepper (U1007)
posted 27 minutes ago
comment by Robbing Hoody - tell me I can't and I... (U6374)
posted 10 hours, 45 minutes ago
comment by Sheriff JW Pepper (U1007)
posted 2 hours, 46 minutes ago
So...does Mendy look like this character...?
I think flores at Watford looks like Gregory House (Hugh Lawrie)
Is this racist or actorist - just wondering
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Is Hugh Lawrie a cartoon based on racist tropes?
No.
----------------------------------------------------------------------
But Hugh Lawrie is English and Flores is Spanish...there's a race issue here surely whereby one looks like another for no other reason than they do
Well...no more than a cartoon on some food that is apparently quite acceptable...if someone looks like something it's just that...
Neither item exactly the black and white minstrel show is it
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https://www.mirror.co.uk/tv/tv-news/black-white-minstrel-show-most-2077085
For those who have never seen or heard of it....not the BBC's finest twenty odd years really
Not only was it racist..it was fack awful television in it's own right
posted on 15/11/19
comment by Winston (U16525)
posted 3 hours, 32 minutes ago
You’re comparing a cartoon image on packs of chocolate sold in shops today with racial segregation in South Africa that ended 25 years ago, and I’m the one who is all over the place?
You really don’t have a clue what you’re talking about, do you.
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Winston still drunk after his mare last night.
No Winston apartheid was an example of the law meaning little.
You idiot
posted on 15/11/19
comment by Robbing Hoody - tell me I can't and I'll show you I can (U6374)
posted 38 minutes ago
comment by Winston (U16525)
posted 3 hours, 32 minutes ago
You’re comparing a cartoon image on packs of chocolate sold in shops today with racial segregation in South Africa that ended 25 years ago, and I’m the one who is all over the place?
You really don’t have a clue what you’re talking about, do you.
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Winston still drunk after his mare last night.
No Winston apartheid was an example of the law meaning little.
You idiot
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It's an absurd comparison.
25 years old and on a different continent.
posted on 15/11/19
On the Suarez thing, I think evra made the most of what was undoubtedly an insult, Suarez rightly got punished. . However evra is an unhinged lunatic, arguably worse than Suarez, so I'd take his word with a punch of salt, sure he's a club legend and great player, but I don't have to like or respect him. I think he needs help.
posted on 15/11/19
comment by Winston (U16525)
posted 19 minutes ago
comment by Robbing Hoody - tell me I can't and I'll show you I can (U6374)
posted 38 minutes ago
comment by Winston (U16525)
posted 3 hours, 32 minutes ago
You’re comparing a cartoon image on packs of chocolate sold in shops today with racial segregation in South Africa that ended 25 years ago, and I’m the one who is all over the place?
You really don’t have a clue what you’re talking about, do you.
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Winston still drunk after his mare last night.
No Winston apartheid was an example of the law meaning little.
You idiot
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It's an absurd comparison.
25 years old and on a different continent.
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It's not a comparison, it's an example of the law meaning little.
Ive said it before and I'll say it again, if you were half as bright as you thought you were youd be dangerous but you've had an absolute mare this week. It's pretty clear this forum is getting to you.
posted on 15/11/19
The way I see it, what we have here is an image on a pack of chocolate that is currently legal in a developed European country. The history of the image may well have racial connotations, but it is not the same image anymore and given that it appears in thousands of shops up and down the country, you'd surely be forgiven for not knowing about any previous versions of that image.
There are different groups of people in this:
1. The people involved. The person receiving the 'joke' has expressed no offence and apparently saw nothing wrong with the incident.
2. The people actively complaining, like Robbing. Most likely wouldn't bat an eyelid if they walked through a Spanish shop past this chocolate wrapper and had no prior knowledge of the history of this image, but have since researched it because they have heard that other people have complained about the usage of it.
3. People who have complained because they are personally offended by the tweet.
I've not seen a single example of number 3. Not one.
Seems to me that the people who complained initially, did so mainly because Silva was comparing his mate to a black cartoon character.
That then led to a wider series of complaints that were strengthened by people's research into the history of the character.
But right at the heart of this, we have a bloke who said to his mate that he looked like a character on a chocolate wrapper in the supermarket.
Sure, he said it in front of 600k people. So what?
If anyone can point me to someone in group 3. then I would listen to them. Otherwise, I suggest people shut up about a subject they almost certainly don't understand.
posted on 15/11/19
Robbing Hoody - tell me I can't and I'll show you I can (U6374)
Yes, and you're comparing a law 25 years ago from Africa with a law from the present day in Europe - not to mention a law that relates to a racist government and economic state vs image on a chocolate wrapper.
It's absurd.
Bring on the personal insults - you're far better at those than you are at intelligent debate.
posted on 15/11/19
Seems to me that the people who complained initially, did so mainly because Silva was comparing his mate to a black cartoon character.
That then led to a wider series of complaints that were strengthened by people's research into the history of the character.
But right at the heart of this, we have a bloke who said to his mate that he looked like a character on a chocolate wrapper in the supermarket.
Sure, he said it in front of 600k people. So what?
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Agree with all this.
It's amazing what you can actually add to the debate when you're not insulting people and causing arguments.
posted on 15/11/19
There'sOnlyOneRed's (U1721)
It really is, yet no matter how hard I try, some of your buddies just can't help themselves and it ruins the threads.
I'm glad that you recognise the flaws in their behaviour, TOOR.
posted on 15/11/19
comment by Winston (U16525)
posted 2 minutes ago
There'sOnlyOneRed's (U1721)
It really is, yet no matter how hard I try, some of your buddies just can't help themselves and it ruins the threads.
I'm glad that you recognise the flaws in their behaviour, TOOR.
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Oh. I see what you did there.
posted on 15/11/19
comment by There'sOnlyOneRed's (U1721)
posted 54 seconds ago
comment by Winston (U16525)
posted 2 minutes ago
There'sOnlyOneRed's (U1721)
It really is, yet no matter how hard I try, some of your buddies just can't help themselves and it ruins the threads.
I'm glad that you recognise the flaws in their behaviour, TOOR.
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Oh. I see what you did there.
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What did I do? Tell the truth?
posted on 15/11/19
comment by Winston (U16525)
posted 1 minute ago
comment by There'sOnlyOneRed's (U1721)
posted 54 seconds ago
comment by Winston (U16525)
posted 2 minutes ago
There'sOnlyOneRed's (U1721)
It really is, yet no matter how hard I try, some of your buddies just can't help themselves and it ruins the threads.
I'm glad that you recognise the flaws in their behaviour, TOOR.
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Oh. I see what you did there.
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What did I do? Tell the truth?
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Juggled on a unicycle.
posted on 15/11/19
comment by There'sOnlyOneRed's (U1721)
posted 2 minutes ago
comment by Winston (U16525)
posted 1 minute ago
comment by There'sOnlyOneRed's (U1721)
posted 54 seconds ago
comment by Winston (U16525)
posted 2 minutes ago
There'sOnlyOneRed's (U1721)
It really is, yet no matter how hard I try, some of your buddies just can't help themselves and it ruins the threads.
I'm glad that you recognise the flaws in their behaviour, TOOR.
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Oh. I see what you did there.
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What did I do? Tell the truth?
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Juggled on a unicycle.
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Have you lost the plot, TOOR?
posted on 15/11/19
comment by Winston (U16525)
posted 4 minutes ago
comment by There'sOnlyOneRed's (U1721)
posted 2 minutes ago
comment by Winston (U16525)
posted 1 minute ago
comment by There'sOnlyOneRed's (U1721)
posted 54 seconds ago
comment by Winston (U16525)
posted 2 minutes ago
There'sOnlyOneRed's (U1721)
It really is, yet no matter how hard I try, some of your buddies just can't help themselves and it ruins the threads.
I'm glad that you recognise the flaws in their behaviour, TOOR.
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Oh. I see what you did there.
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What did I do? Tell the truth?
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Juggled on a unicycle.
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Have you lost the plot, TOOR?
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That would assume I had the plot in the first place.
posted on 15/11/19
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