comment by wearethefamousTHFC (U19211)
posted 1 second ago
One thing for sure is that if Levy does not back the manager in jan then the fans will turn
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yeah but on whom though?
it's so unclear and murky at the minute
we can all be sat here having a go at Poch and maybe in the background it's all Levy's fault
On the flip side, we can all have a go at Levy but at the same time, it could be Poch not wanting to spend money where he felt it wasn't needed
(the latter I find unlikely though, since when does a manger not want to spend money in the transfer market)
comment by Sem (U9729)
posted 20 minutes ago
comment by wearethefamousTHFC (U19211)
posted 1 second ago
One thing for sure is that if Levy does not back the manager in jan then the fans will turn
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yeah but on whom though?
it's so unclear and murky at the minute
we can all be sat here having a go at Poch and maybe in the background it's all Levy's fault
On the flip side, we can all have a go at Levy but at the same time, it could be Poch not wanting to spend money where he felt it wasn't needed
(the latter I find unlikely though, since when does a manger not want to spend money in the transfer market)
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To me it's clear that Levy has done/is doing more damage to the team than Poch or anyone else. The clues are there if you want to open your eyes to them. He's not fulfilling his end of the bargain in the relationship. Rose came out and spoke this week. He didn't blame Poch, he blamed Levy. Poch spoke out about being more a coach than a manager, as well as the need to be brave, which was also aimed at Levy.
Fans should not be happy with Levy's level of performance even before an inevitably disappointing January.
comment by Spurtle (U1608)
posted 41 minutes ago
comment by Don_tottenham (U3372)
posted 1 minute ago
comment by Spurtle (U1608)
posted 24 seconds ago
Top 4 out of the question now whether we go on a good run or not. Need to improve our form in the league though and I guess try and make top 6 and win something whether it's the FA Cup or CL.
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Never in a million years are we going to get to a CL final again Spurtle. Probably never again in our lifetime unfortunately mate. Last year was our best ever chance and we totally blew it.
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Well we reached a CL final while our form was this bad last season Don, so you never know. It's obviously unrealistic but we may as well prioritise it if we get far enough in it.
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Sorry mate but last year was once in a lifetime mate. We are like Porto, but difference is they actually won the thing. We won’t be making the CL final again for a long long time, if ever in our lifetimes. We were so bloody lucky last year let’s be honest and there are to many top quality sides
comment by Spurtle (U1608)
posted 3 minutes ago
comment by Sem (U9729)
posted 20 minutes ago
comment by wearethefamousTHFC (U19211)
posted 1 second ago
One thing for sure is that if Levy does not back the manager in jan then the fans will turn
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yeah but on whom though?
it's so unclear and murky at the minute
we can all be sat here having a go at Poch and maybe in the background it's all Levy's fault
On the flip side, we can all have a go at Levy but at the same time, it could be Poch not wanting to spend money where he felt it wasn't needed
(the latter I find unlikely though, since when does a manger not want to spend money in the transfer market)
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To me it's clear that Levy has done/is doing more damage to the team than Poch or anyone else. The clues are there if you want to open your eyes to them. He's not fulfilling his end of the bargain in the relationship. Rose came out and spoke this week. He didn't blame Poch, he blamed Levy. Poch spoke out about being more a coach than a manager, as well as the need to be brave, which was also aimed at Levy.
Fans should not be happy with Levy's level of performance even before an inevitably disappointing January.
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I actually agree, i think the snippets of clues we're being drip fed are pointing at Levys wrongdoing
Well I hope for our sake we win against West Ham.
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I can't see anything but a defeat against West Ham.
comment by wearethefamousTHFC (U19211)
posted 23 minutes ago
sizzle banned from every political site and chat room so creates article so he can still bash everyone over the head with his views
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He’s a joke mate
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Basing managerial decisions on a single game is stupid
You either think he's right for the job or you dont
comment by Christopher (U20930)
posted 28 minutes ago
Basing managerial decisions on a single game is stupid
You either think he's right for the job or you dont
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Not really. A terrible result has ended plenty of managers reigns who were on the brink of getting sacked. For all we know Pochettino could be on the brink and a bad result v Westham will be the end, why is that stupid ? He hasn’t been good enough but the club are willing to be patient for now, but a loss against Westham and us probably dropping to 16th in the table would mean a justified sacking.
comment by Don_tottenham (U3372)
posted 5 minutes ago
comment by Christopher (U20930)
posted 28 minutes ago
Basing managerial decisions on a single game is stupid
You either think he's right for the job or you dont
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Not really. A terrible result has ended plenty of managers reigns who were on the brink of getting sacked. For all we know Pochettino could be on the brink and a bad result v Westham will be the end, why is that stupid ? He hasn’t been good enough but the club are willing to be patient for now, but a loss against Westham and us probably dropping to 16th in the table would mean a justified sacking.
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So just because teams do it all the time it makes it sensible?
It's like when jose was gonna be fired at united but beat Newcastle so he got to keep the job - did that mean he was all off a sudden on the right track and a good fit with the club? Obviously not
comment by Christopher (U20930)
posted 1 minute ago
comment by Don_tottenham (U3372)
posted 5 minutes ago
comment by Christopher (U20930)
posted 28 minutes ago
Basing managerial decisions on a single game is stupid
You either think he's right for the job or you dont
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Not really. A terrible result has ended plenty of managers reigns who were on the brink of getting sacked. For all we know Pochettino could be on the brink and a bad result v Westham will be the end, why is that stupid ? He hasn’t been good enough but the club are willing to be patient for now, but a loss against Westham and us probably dropping to 16th in the table would mean a justified sacking.
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So just because teams do it all the time it makes it sensible?
It's like when jose was gonna be fired at united but beat Newcastle so he got to keep the job - did that mean he was all off a sudden on the right track and a good fit with the club? Obviously not
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Mate, we have been terrible this season. You would of been justified to sack Pochettino weeks ago. The fact that we’re languishing in 14th and a defeat against our London rivals, which would potentially drop us even further down the table and sacking him on that basis alone is not silly at all. Another terrible result willut the final nail in the coffin. I personally wanted him gone after the Brighton game. I’m just asking the question, is the Westham game his last shot ?
comment by Don_tottenham (U3372)
posted 29 seconds ago
comment by Christopher (U20930)
posted 1 minute ago
comment by Don_tottenham (U3372)
posted 5 minutes ago
comment by Christopher (U20930)
posted 28 minutes ago
Basing managerial decisions on a single game is stupid
You either think he's right for the job or you dont
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Not really. A terrible result has ended plenty of managers reigns who were on the brink of getting sacked. For all we know Pochettino could be on the brink and a bad result v Westham will be the end, why is that stupid ? He hasn’t been good enough but the club are willing to be patient for now, but a loss against Westham and us probably dropping to 16th in the table would mean a justified sacking.
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So just because teams do it all the time it makes it sensible?
It's like when jose was gonna be fired at united but beat Newcastle so he got to keep the job - did that mean he was all off a sudden on the right track and a good fit with the club? Obviously not
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Mate, we have been terrible this season. You would of been justified to sack Pochettino weeks ago. The fact that we’re languishing in 14th and a defeat against our London rivals, which would potentially drop us even further down the table and sacking him on that basis alone is not silly at all. Another terrible result willut the final nail in the coffin. I personally wanted him gone after the Brighton game. I’m just asking the question, is the Westham game his last shot ?
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I think you're completely missing my point
I'm not saying whether or not he should be sacked, I'm saying whether ot not he should be sacked shouldn't depend on one result.
If levy has looked at the form and performances and decided he should be sacked, fair enough. But if that's the case he should fire him - one game shouldn't affect whether or not he stays
Exactly what I was saying too Chris.
Either have faith and stick with him or sack him last week to give a new manager ample time of preparation.
What’s the point in sacking if we lose go WHU with another game 3 days later.
Right so we just keep losing games then and falling further down the table because it’s pointless sacking him? Just because we didn’t sack him 2 weeks ago. Obviously he should of been sacked weeks ago in certain supporters eyes, but some fans are still on the fence. My question was, would a defeat to Westham be the last straw ?
Hugely missing the point here Don.
You have to sack a manager at some point don’t you ?if the team are constantly dropping points and falling down the table then eventually 1 terrible result will be the one that finally ends his reign.
comment by Don_tottenham (U3372)
posted 2 minutes ago
Right so we just keep losing games then and falling further down the table because it’s pointless sacking him? Just because we didn’t sack him 2 weeks ago. Obviously he should of been sacked weeks ago in certain supporters eyes, but some fans are still on the fence. My question was, would a defeat to Westham be the last straw ?
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Don, you are wasting your time arguing with those that think he should keep his job. The point is, it is not about the last result, the next result, it is about the cumulative results over the past nine months.
He needs to go he has been awful. Should have been sacked weeks back, he is totally incapable of turning this around now. There can be no more excuses for him.
comment by Don_tottenham (U3372)
posted 33 seconds ago
You have to sack a manager at some point don’t you ?if the team are constantly dropping points and falling down the table then eventually 1 terrible result will be the one that finally ends his reign.
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Don, According to our supporters no. Every manager throughout football history has been sacked when the results are not positive. I just don`t get why Pochettino should be any different. It is like a cult on here, where no matter what Pochettino does he is untouchable.
I do however blame Levy now, he should have sacked him after the Brighton game. Losing to Colchester and then getting completely outplayed by Brighton in the space of four days, on top of the previous several months poor results, should have seen him out of the door.
No I’m not missing the point mate. You lot are saying if he was bad enough for the chop, he should of gone before rather than waiting on 1 result. My point is something has to give eventually. Considering you are both in the Pro Poch camp right now, it’s pointless debating this with you anyway as you will both disagree regardless of Westham beating us or not
comment by sandy (U20567)
posted 28 seconds ago
comment by Don_tottenham (U3372)
posted 33 seconds ago
You have to sack a manager at some point don’t you ?if the team are constantly dropping points and falling down the table then eventually 1 terrible result will be the one that finally ends his reign.
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Don, According to our supporters no. Every manager throughout football history has been sacked when the results are not positive. I just don`t get why Pochettino should be any different. It is like a cult on here, where no matter what Pochettino does he is untouchable.
I do however blame Levy now, he should have sacked him after the Brighton game. Losing to Colchester and then getting completely outplayed by Brighton in the space of four days, on top of the previous several months poor results, should have seen him out of the door.
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Couldn’t agree more. I wanted him gone after Brighton. That Colchester result, followed by the 7-2 thrashing , then the 3-0 battering by Brighton should of been game, set and match for Pochettino
comment by Don_tottenham (U3372)
posted 3 minutes ago
You have to sack a manager at some point don’t you ?if the team are constantly dropping points and falling down the table then eventually 1 terrible result will be the one that finally ends his reign.
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If levy is sitting there thinking right now if we lose to West Ham poch is gone then he doesn’t have the faith needed and should’ve got rid already.
If we beat WHU is levy then thinking if we lose to Bournemouth poch is gone or is he going to think right we’ve one once and my confidence is back.
For me you don’t wait 2 weeks then to sack him based on the next result.
comment by Don_tottenham (U3372)
posted 6 minutes ago
No I’m not missing the point mate. You lot are saying if he was bad enough for the chop, he should of gone before rather than waiting on 1 result. My point is something has to give eventually. Considering you are both in the Pro Poch camp right now, it’s pointless debating this with you anyway as you will both disagree regardless of Westham beating us or not
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Me and Chris aren’t debating what we think of poch but what levy is thinking,
So that was a totally irrelevant comment
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posted on 15/11/19
comment by wearethefamousTHFC (U19211)
posted 1 second ago
One thing for sure is that if Levy does not back the manager in jan then the fans will turn
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yeah but on whom though?
it's so unclear and murky at the minute
we can all be sat here having a go at Poch and maybe in the background it's all Levy's fault
On the flip side, we can all have a go at Levy but at the same time, it could be Poch not wanting to spend money where he felt it wasn't needed
(the latter I find unlikely though, since when does a manger not want to spend money in the transfer market)
posted on 15/11/19
comment by Sem (U9729)
posted 20 minutes ago
comment by wearethefamousTHFC (U19211)
posted 1 second ago
One thing for sure is that if Levy does not back the manager in jan then the fans will turn
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yeah but on whom though?
it's so unclear and murky at the minute
we can all be sat here having a go at Poch and maybe in the background it's all Levy's fault
On the flip side, we can all have a go at Levy but at the same time, it could be Poch not wanting to spend money where he felt it wasn't needed
(the latter I find unlikely though, since when does a manger not want to spend money in the transfer market)
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To me it's clear that Levy has done/is doing more damage to the team than Poch or anyone else. The clues are there if you want to open your eyes to them. He's not fulfilling his end of the bargain in the relationship. Rose came out and spoke this week. He didn't blame Poch, he blamed Levy. Poch spoke out about being more a coach than a manager, as well as the need to be brave, which was also aimed at Levy.
Fans should not be happy with Levy's level of performance even before an inevitably disappointing January.
posted on 15/11/19
comment by Spurtle (U1608)
posted 41 minutes ago
comment by Don_tottenham (U3372)
posted 1 minute ago
comment by Spurtle (U1608)
posted 24 seconds ago
Top 4 out of the question now whether we go on a good run or not. Need to improve our form in the league though and I guess try and make top 6 and win something whether it's the FA Cup or CL.
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Never in a million years are we going to get to a CL final again Spurtle. Probably never again in our lifetime unfortunately mate. Last year was our best ever chance and we totally blew it.
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Well we reached a CL final while our form was this bad last season Don, so you never know. It's obviously unrealistic but we may as well prioritise it if we get far enough in it.
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Sorry mate but last year was once in a lifetime mate. We are like Porto, but difference is they actually won the thing. We won’t be making the CL final again for a long long time, if ever in our lifetimes. We were so bloody lucky last year let’s be honest and there are to many top quality sides
posted on 15/11/19
comment by Spurtle (U1608)
posted 3 minutes ago
comment by Sem (U9729)
posted 20 minutes ago
comment by wearethefamousTHFC (U19211)
posted 1 second ago
One thing for sure is that if Levy does not back the manager in jan then the fans will turn
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yeah but on whom though?
it's so unclear and murky at the minute
we can all be sat here having a go at Poch and maybe in the background it's all Levy's fault
On the flip side, we can all have a go at Levy but at the same time, it could be Poch not wanting to spend money where he felt it wasn't needed
(the latter I find unlikely though, since when does a manger not want to spend money in the transfer market)
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To me it's clear that Levy has done/is doing more damage to the team than Poch or anyone else. The clues are there if you want to open your eyes to them. He's not fulfilling his end of the bargain in the relationship. Rose came out and spoke this week. He didn't blame Poch, he blamed Levy. Poch spoke out about being more a coach than a manager, as well as the need to be brave, which was also aimed at Levy.
Fans should not be happy with Levy's level of performance even before an inevitably disappointing January.
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I actually agree, i think the snippets of clues we're being drip fed are pointing at Levys wrongdoing
posted on 15/11/19
Well I hope for our sake we win against West Ham.
posted on 15/11/19
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posted on 15/11/19
I can't see anything but a defeat against West Ham.
posted on 15/11/19
comment by wearethefamousTHFC (U19211)
posted 23 minutes ago
sizzle banned from every political site and chat room so creates article so he can still bash everyone over the head with his views
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He’s a joke mate
posted on 15/11/19
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posted on 15/11/19
Who is Westham?
posted on 15/11/19
Basing managerial decisions on a single game is stupid
You either think he's right for the job or you dont
posted on 15/11/19
comment by Christopher (U20930)
posted 28 minutes ago
Basing managerial decisions on a single game is stupid
You either think he's right for the job or you dont
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Not really. A terrible result has ended plenty of managers reigns who were on the brink of getting sacked. For all we know Pochettino could be on the brink and a bad result v Westham will be the end, why is that stupid ? He hasn’t been good enough but the club are willing to be patient for now, but a loss against Westham and us probably dropping to 16th in the table would mean a justified sacking.
posted on 15/11/19
comment by Don_tottenham (U3372)
posted 5 minutes ago
comment by Christopher (U20930)
posted 28 minutes ago
Basing managerial decisions on a single game is stupid
You either think he's right for the job or you dont
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Not really. A terrible result has ended plenty of managers reigns who were on the brink of getting sacked. For all we know Pochettino could be on the brink and a bad result v Westham will be the end, why is that stupid ? He hasn’t been good enough but the club are willing to be patient for now, but a loss against Westham and us probably dropping to 16th in the table would mean a justified sacking.
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So just because teams do it all the time it makes it sensible?
It's like when jose was gonna be fired at united but beat Newcastle so he got to keep the job - did that mean he was all off a sudden on the right track and a good fit with the club? Obviously not
posted on 15/11/19
comment by Christopher (U20930)
posted 1 minute ago
comment by Don_tottenham (U3372)
posted 5 minutes ago
comment by Christopher (U20930)
posted 28 minutes ago
Basing managerial decisions on a single game is stupid
You either think he's right for the job or you dont
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Not really. A terrible result has ended plenty of managers reigns who were on the brink of getting sacked. For all we know Pochettino could be on the brink and a bad result v Westham will be the end, why is that stupid ? He hasn’t been good enough but the club are willing to be patient for now, but a loss against Westham and us probably dropping to 16th in the table would mean a justified sacking.
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So just because teams do it all the time it makes it sensible?
It's like when jose was gonna be fired at united but beat Newcastle so he got to keep the job - did that mean he was all off a sudden on the right track and a good fit with the club? Obviously not
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Mate, we have been terrible this season. You would of been justified to sack Pochettino weeks ago. The fact that we’re languishing in 14th and a defeat against our London rivals, which would potentially drop us even further down the table and sacking him on that basis alone is not silly at all. Another terrible result willut the final nail in the coffin. I personally wanted him gone after the Brighton game. I’m just asking the question, is the Westham game his last shot ?
posted on 15/11/19
comment by Don_tottenham (U3372)
posted 29 seconds ago
comment by Christopher (U20930)
posted 1 minute ago
comment by Don_tottenham (U3372)
posted 5 minutes ago
comment by Christopher (U20930)
posted 28 minutes ago
Basing managerial decisions on a single game is stupid
You either think he's right for the job or you dont
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Not really. A terrible result has ended plenty of managers reigns who were on the brink of getting sacked. For all we know Pochettino could be on the brink and a bad result v Westham will be the end, why is that stupid ? He hasn’t been good enough but the club are willing to be patient for now, but a loss against Westham and us probably dropping to 16th in the table would mean a justified sacking.
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So just because teams do it all the time it makes it sensible?
It's like when jose was gonna be fired at united but beat Newcastle so he got to keep the job - did that mean he was all off a sudden on the right track and a good fit with the club? Obviously not
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Mate, we have been terrible this season. You would of been justified to sack Pochettino weeks ago. The fact that we’re languishing in 14th and a defeat against our London rivals, which would potentially drop us even further down the table and sacking him on that basis alone is not silly at all. Another terrible result willut the final nail in the coffin. I personally wanted him gone after the Brighton game. I’m just asking the question, is the Westham game his last shot ?
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I think you're completely missing my point
I'm not saying whether or not he should be sacked, I'm saying whether ot not he should be sacked shouldn't depend on one result.
If levy has looked at the form and performances and decided he should be sacked, fair enough. But if that's the case he should fire him - one game shouldn't affect whether or not he stays
posted on 15/11/19
Exactly what I was saying too Chris.
Either have faith and stick with him or sack him last week to give a new manager ample time of preparation.
What’s the point in sacking if we lose go WHU with another game 3 days later.
posted on 15/11/19
Right so we just keep losing games then and falling further down the table because it’s pointless sacking him? Just because we didn’t sack him 2 weeks ago. Obviously he should of been sacked weeks ago in certain supporters eyes, but some fans are still on the fence. My question was, would a defeat to Westham be the last straw ?
posted on 15/11/19
Hugely missing the point here Don.
posted on 15/11/19
You have to sack a manager at some point don’t you ?if the team are constantly dropping points and falling down the table then eventually 1 terrible result will be the one that finally ends his reign.
posted on 15/11/19
comment by Don_tottenham (U3372)
posted 2 minutes ago
Right so we just keep losing games then and falling further down the table because it’s pointless sacking him? Just because we didn’t sack him 2 weeks ago. Obviously he should of been sacked weeks ago in certain supporters eyes, but some fans are still on the fence. My question was, would a defeat to Westham be the last straw ?
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Don, you are wasting your time arguing with those that think he should keep his job. The point is, it is not about the last result, the next result, it is about the cumulative results over the past nine months.
He needs to go he has been awful. Should have been sacked weeks back, he is totally incapable of turning this around now. There can be no more excuses for him.
posted on 15/11/19
comment by Don_tottenham (U3372)
posted 33 seconds ago
You have to sack a manager at some point don’t you ?if the team are constantly dropping points and falling down the table then eventually 1 terrible result will be the one that finally ends his reign.
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Don, According to our supporters no. Every manager throughout football history has been sacked when the results are not positive. I just don`t get why Pochettino should be any different. It is like a cult on here, where no matter what Pochettino does he is untouchable.
I do however blame Levy now, he should have sacked him after the Brighton game. Losing to Colchester and then getting completely outplayed by Brighton in the space of four days, on top of the previous several months poor results, should have seen him out of the door.
posted on 15/11/19
No I’m not missing the point mate. You lot are saying if he was bad enough for the chop, he should of gone before rather than waiting on 1 result. My point is something has to give eventually. Considering you are both in the Pro Poch camp right now, it’s pointless debating this with you anyway as you will both disagree regardless of Westham beating us or not
posted on 15/11/19
comment by sandy (U20567)
posted 28 seconds ago
comment by Don_tottenham (U3372)
posted 33 seconds ago
You have to sack a manager at some point don’t you ?if the team are constantly dropping points and falling down the table then eventually 1 terrible result will be the one that finally ends his reign.
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Don, According to our supporters no. Every manager throughout football history has been sacked when the results are not positive. I just don`t get why Pochettino should be any different. It is like a cult on here, where no matter what Pochettino does he is untouchable.
I do however blame Levy now, he should have sacked him after the Brighton game. Losing to Colchester and then getting completely outplayed by Brighton in the space of four days, on top of the previous several months poor results, should have seen him out of the door.
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Couldn’t agree more. I wanted him gone after Brighton. That Colchester result, followed by the 7-2 thrashing , then the 3-0 battering by Brighton should of been game, set and match for Pochettino
posted on 15/11/19
comment by Don_tottenham (U3372)
posted 3 minutes ago
You have to sack a manager at some point don’t you ?if the team are constantly dropping points and falling down the table then eventually 1 terrible result will be the one that finally ends his reign.
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If levy is sitting there thinking right now if we lose to West Ham poch is gone then he doesn’t have the faith needed and should’ve got rid already.
If we beat WHU is levy then thinking if we lose to Bournemouth poch is gone or is he going to think right we’ve one once and my confidence is back.
For me you don’t wait 2 weeks then to sack him based on the next result.
posted on 15/11/19
comment by Don_tottenham (U3372)
posted 6 minutes ago
No I’m not missing the point mate. You lot are saying if he was bad enough for the chop, he should of gone before rather than waiting on 1 result. My point is something has to give eventually. Considering you are both in the Pro Poch camp right now, it’s pointless debating this with you anyway as you will both disagree regardless of Westham beating us or not
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Me and Chris aren’t debating what we think of poch but what levy is thinking,
So that was a totally irrelevant comment
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