It was a global crash and a different labour. I absolutely stand by what I said. Fact is you dont care about poor people suffering and kids living in poverty.
Which government will help ease that issue more? If you dont choose that then youre a bad person.
comment by Robbing Hoody - tell me I can't and I... (U6374)
posted 2 minutes ago
It was a global crash and a different labour. I absolutely stand by what I said. Fact is you dont care about poor people suffering and kids living in poverty.
Which government will help ease that issue more? If you dont choose that then youre a bad person.
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Ahh fack off Robbing, you're a complete waste of time.
I think Labour will make things worse in the long run for the poor, not better. Hence I'd never vote for them because I think we'd all end up suffering.
Why do people act like it's a marriage? Its four years.
4m kids in poverty and people dying. That's it.
Im not even saying vote Labour really, just don't vote Tory because if you do you are supporting a country that is purposely harming it's own citizens in the pursuit of wealth. Maybe you want to be part of that but dont get upset that you get called out on it. I dont make you not care about people.
comment by Take Mahomes, Country Roads (U3979)
posted 11 minutes ago
Essentially, all Labour will do is make it worse in the long run. Happened in the 70s, happened in the 00s.
There is no evidence whatsoever in the last half century that their ideals are financially feasible.
So boom, we end up back in austerity yet again.
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Austerity was a choice remember
There’s no money, who shall pay for this?
“Well I’m damn sure not giving up my Foie Gras, Moët and cigars” sort it out David
comment by Robbing Hoody - tell me I can't and I... (U6374)
posted 3 minutes ago
Why do people act like it's a marriage? Its four years.
4m kids in poverty and people dying. That's it.
Im not even saying vote Labour really, just don't vote Tory because if you do you are supporting a country that is purposely harming it's own citizens in the pursuit of wealth. Maybe you want to be part of that but dont get upset that you get called out on it. I dont make you not care about people.
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I still haven't decided who I'm voting for, they are all facking dreadful but I cannot stand politicians who offer free this and free that knowing damn well that the following premiership will be picking up the bill.
Atos awarded new contract.
Beggars belief.
comment by Robbing Hoody - tell me I can't and I... (U6374)
posted 46 seconds ago
Atos awarded new contract.
Beggars belief.
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Atos are an IT provider right?
You really think that shouldn't be outsourced?!
Theyre the company that knowingly failed people on disability payments at the Governments behest so no I dont think that should be outsourced because it's morally bankrupt.
comment by Take Mahomes, Country Roads (U3979)
posted 22 minutes ago
Essentially, all Labour will do is make it worse in the long run. Happened in the 70s, happened in the 00s.
There is no evidence whatsoever in the last half century that their ideals are financially feasible.
So boom, we end up back in austerity yet again.
----------------------------------------------------------------------
163 UK economists have publically backed Labour's proposals which suggests they are in fact (in part) financially feasible.
https://www.ft.com/content/d29b4cbe-0fa4-11ea-a225-db2f231cfeae
I get they're not perfect but if you're not wealthy, voting for the conservatives is madness.
Labour also did not cause the 2008 global financial crisis.
comment by What would Stuart Pearce do? Better than Goze... (U3126)
posted 24 seconds ago
comment by Take Mahomes, Country Roads (U3979)
posted 22 minutes ago
Essentially, all Labour will do is make it worse in the long run. Happened in the 70s, happened in the 00s.
There is no evidence whatsoever in the last half century that their ideals are financially feasible.
So boom, we end up back in austerity yet again.
----------------------------------------------------------------------
163 UK economists have publically backed Labour's proposals which suggests they are in fact (in part) financially feasible.
https://www.ft.com/content/d29b4cbe-0fa4-11ea-a225-db2f231cfeae
I get they're not perfect but if you're not wealthy, voting for the conservatives is madness.
Labour also did not cause the 2008 global financial crisis.
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No of course they didn't but they managed it appallingly.
"There's no money left".
comment by Robbing Hoody - tell me I can't and I... (U6374)
posted 2 minutes ago
Theyre the company that knowingly failed people on disability payments at the Governments behest so no I dont think that should be outsourced because it's morally bankrupt.
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So you think the NHS should build and run their own IT infrastructure?
comment by Take Mahomes, Country Roads (U3979)
posted 1 minute ago
comment by Robbing Hoody - tell me I can't and I... (U6374)
posted 2 minutes ago
Theyre the company that knowingly failed people on disability payments at the Governments behest so no I dont think that should be outsourced because it's morally bankrupt.
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So you think the NHS should build and run their own IT infrastructure?
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No I think that a foriegn company that purpisely failed peoples health assessments in the pursuit of wealth should not be awarded further contracts.
comment by Robbing Hoody - tell me I can't and I... (U6374)
posted 53 seconds ago
comment by Take Mahomes, Country Roads (U3979)
posted 1 minute ago
comment by Robbing Hoody - tell me I can't and I... (U6374)
posted 2 minutes ago
Theyre the company that knowingly failed people on disability payments at the Governments behest so no I dont think that should be outsourced because it's morally bankrupt.
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So you think the NHS should build and run their own IT infrastructure?
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No I think that a foriegn company that purpisely failed peoples health assessments in the pursuit of wealth should not be awarded further contracts.
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Your alternative is?
comment by Robbing Hoody - tell me I can't and I... (U6374)
posted 1 minute ago
Are you fvcking serious?
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So what do you think should be done instead of renewing the atos contract? Genuine question.
You clearly know more than I do about it so enlighten me.
What the fack is it with people like you that think insulting people will get them on your side?! I've had a good debate with WWSPD on this forum and it's genuinely made me think again about what I might do next week, and then you come along and call me a piece of shiiiiit for not falling for what I feel are an untrustworthy party in Labour?
Fack you robbing, you're exactly what's wrong with the electorate in this country. Should be facking ashamed.
comment by Take Mahomes, Country Roads (U3979)
posted 1 minute ago
comment by What would Stuart Pearce do? Better than Goze... (U3126)
posted 24 seconds ago
comment by Take Mahomes, Country Roads (U3979)
posted 22 minutes ago
Essentially, all Labour will do is make it worse in the long run. Happened in the 70s, happened in the 00s.
There is no evidence whatsoever in the last half century that their ideals are financially feasible.
So boom, we end up back in austerity yet again.
----------------------------------------------------------------------
163 UK economists have publically backed Labour's proposals which suggests they are in fact (in part) financially feasible.
https://www.ft.com/content/d29b4cbe-0fa4-11ea-a225-db2f231cfeae
I get they're not perfect but if you're not wealthy, voting for the conservatives is madness.
Labour also did not cause the 2008 global financial crisis.
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No of course they didn't but they managed it appallingly.
"There's no money left".
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And the Tories have been doing such a stellar job since....
If they weren't in the pockets of the likes of Amazon, they'd at least of made an effort to revise corporation tax laws and in particular corporation tax avoidance.
"The UK is by far the world’s biggest enabler of corporate tax dodging, helping funnel hundreds of billions of dollars away from state coffers, according to an international investigation."
..."the Tax Justice Network found that the UK has “single-handedly” done the most to break down the global corporate tax system which loses an estimated $500bn (£395bn) to avoidance."
"The amount dodged globally each year is more than three times the NHS budget or roughly equivalent to the entire Gross Domestic Product (GDP) of Belgium"
https://www.independent.co.uk/news/business/news/uk-corporate-tax-avoidance-havens-justice-network-dodging-a8933661.html
Instead they chose years of austerity and ruthlessly cut public spending across the board.
comment by What would Stuart Pearce do? Better than Goze... (U3126)
posted 1 minute ago
comment by Take Mahomes, Country Roads (U3979)
posted 1 minute ago
comment by What would Stuart Pearce do? Better than Goze... (U3126)
posted 24 seconds ago
comment by Take Mahomes, Country Roads (U3979)
posted 22 minutes ago
Essentially, all Labour will do is make it worse in the long run. Happened in the 70s, happened in the 00s.
There is no evidence whatsoever in the last half century that their ideals are financially feasible.
So boom, we end up back in austerity yet again.
----------------------------------------------------------------------
163 UK economists have publically backed Labour's proposals which suggests they are in fact (in part) financially feasible.
https://www.ft.com/content/d29b4cbe-0fa4-11ea-a225-db2f231cfeae
I get they're not perfect but if you're not wealthy, voting for the conservatives is madness.
Labour also did not cause the 2008 global financial crisis.
----------------------------------------------------------------------
No of course they didn't but they managed it appallingly.
"There's no money left".
----------------------------------------------------------------------
And the Tories have been doing such a stellar job since....
If they weren't in the pockets of the likes of Amazon, they'd at least of made an effort to revise corporation tax laws and in particular corporation tax avoidance.
"The UK is by far the world’s biggest enabler of corporate tax dodging, helping funnel hundreds of billions of dollars away from state coffers, according to an international investigation."
..."the Tax Justice Network found that the UK has “single-handedly” done the most to break down the global corporate tax system which loses an estimated $500bn (£395bn) to avoidance."
"The amount dodged globally each year is more than three times the NHS budget or roughly equivalent to the entire Gross Domestic Product (GDP) of Belgium"
https://www.independent.co.uk/news/business/news/uk-corporate-tax-avoidance-havens-justice-network-dodging-a8933661.html
Instead they chose years of austerity and ruthlessly cut public spending across the board.
----------------------------------------------------------------------
I actually agree with you here. I think the way we've allowed company's to avoid tax is shameful and is something we should sort out. I think 26% corporation tax is too high, and less than 20% is a fitting amount and that would work if everybody paid it. The problem is that they don't.
Again, I don't believe Labour are the answer and I fundamentally disagree with a party offering free broadband, free tuition fees and free everything else. People have no sense of value when everything is spoonfed to them by the government.
comment by Take Mahomes, Country Roads (U3979)
posted 42 seconds ago
comment by What would Stuart Pearce do? Better than Goze... (U3126)
posted 1 minute ago
comment by Take Mahomes, Country Roads (U3979)
posted 1 minute ago
comment by What would Stuart Pearce do? Better than Goze... (U3126)
posted 24 seconds ago
comment by Take Mahomes, Country Roads (U3979)
posted 22 minutes ago
Essentially, all Labour will do is make it worse in the long run. Happened in the 70s, happened in the 00s.
There is no evidence whatsoever in the last half century that their ideals are financially feasible.
So boom, we end up back in austerity yet again.
----------------------------------------------------------------------
163 UK economists have publically backed Labour's proposals which suggests they are in fact (in part) financially feasible.
https://www.ft.com/content/d29b4cbe-0fa4-11ea-a225-db2f231cfeae
I get they're not perfect but if you're not wealthy, voting for the conservatives is madness.
Labour also did not cause the 2008 global financial crisis.
----------------------------------------------------------------------
No of course they didn't but they managed it appallingly.
"There's no money left".
----------------------------------------------------------------------
And the Tories have been doing such a stellar job since....
If they weren't in the pockets of the likes of Amazon, they'd at least of made an effort to revise corporation tax laws and in particular corporation tax avoidance.
"The UK is by far the world’s biggest enabler of corporate tax dodging, helping funnel hundreds of billions of dollars away from state coffers, according to an international investigation."
..."the Tax Justice Network found that the UK has “single-handedly” done the most to break down the global corporate tax system which loses an estimated $500bn (£395bn) to avoidance."
"The amount dodged globally each year is more than three times the NHS budget or roughly equivalent to the entire Gross Domestic Product (GDP) of Belgium"
https://www.independent.co.uk/news/business/news/uk-corporate-tax-avoidance-havens-justice-network-dodging-a8933661.html
Instead they chose years of austerity and ruthlessly cut public spending across the board.
----------------------------------------------------------------------
I actually agree with you here. I think the way we've allowed company's to avoid tax is shameful and is something we should sort out. I think 26% corporation tax is too high, and less than 20% is a fitting amount and that would work if everybody paid it. The problem is that they don't.
Again, I don't believe Labour are the answer and I fundamentally disagree with a party offering free broadband, free tuition fees and free everything else. People have no sense of value when everything is spoonfed to them by the government.
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I actually agree with you too on Labour but compared to the Tories I'd even have Lord Buckethead
comment by Robbing Hoody - tell me I can't and I'll show you I can (U6374)
posted 47 minutes ago
It was a global crash and a different labour. I absolutely stand by what I said. Fact is you dont care about poor people suffering and kids living in poverty.
Which government will help ease that issue more? If you dont choose that then youre a bad person.
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I’m voting for hoody a true warrior for social justice
I also want a handy cabinet position when you get in
Say minister for women’s scanties or something
I actually agree with you too on Labour but compared to the Tories I'd even have Lord Buckethead
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Here's my dilemma then as an undecided.
Tory party: Aside of everything else I despise Brexit, as somebody who took time to learn European languages and loves European culture and had the opportunity to live in France visa free, I want everybody to have that opportunity and I hate the way it's being taken away in this ridiculous vanity project.
Labour: I fundamentally disagree with free tuition frees, free broadband etc etc. As I mentioned why the hell should my taxes be increased (and they will) so I can buy for billionnaires to have free broadband and tuition fees? I hate a party that feels they can spend money better than I can and as somebody who uses the rail networks daily KEEP IT WELL AWAY FROM PUBLIC OWNERSHIP.
Lib Dem: I hate Brexit but the vote happened. You can't just revoke Article 50 and the bigoted attitude of the party towards leave voters (many of whom had valid reasons for voting the way they do) is disgraceful. I also don't see the realism in things like banning combustion engine cars. This will hit the poor harder than anybody else and that's ridiculous when there are so many bigger environmental problems worldwide that need to be fixed first.
The others are pointless frankly.
This, and the fact that me daring to question the Labour party leading to me being called skuuumm or a piece of shiiiiit as evidenced by Robbing just this afternoon is why I despise everything about politics in this country.
It's an utter facking mess.
Rant over.
comment by Take Mahomes, Country Roads (U3979)
posted 9 minutes ago
comment by Robbing Hoody - tell me I can't and I... (U6374)
posted 1 minute ago
Are you fvcking serious?
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So what do you think should be done instead of renewing the atos contract? Genuine question.
You clearly know more than I do about it so enlighten me.
What the fack is it with people like you that think insulting people will get them on your side?! I've had a good debate with WWSPD on this forum and it's genuinely made me think again about what I might do next week, and then you come along and call me a piece of shiiiiit for not falling for what I feel are an untrustworthy party in Labour?
Fack you robbing, you're exactly what's wrong with the electorate in this country. Should be facking ashamed.
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It's not my job to educate you or to try and impart the very basic cognitive ability it takes to deduce you award the contract to a different tender.
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comment by Mason The King Greenwood (U10026)
posted 2 minutes ago
Robbing’s called you skum because you’ve enabled, and defended, the social cleansing of the poorest and most vulnerable in society.
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Bit like Cromwell tried here
Cant wanted us all living in Connacht
mason
That's a disgraceful and insulting comment.
It’s the reality of the situation.
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posted on 6/12/19
It was a global crash and a different labour. I absolutely stand by what I said. Fact is you dont care about poor people suffering and kids living in poverty.
Which government will help ease that issue more? If you dont choose that then youre a bad person.
posted on 6/12/19
comment by Robbing Hoody - tell me I can't and I... (U6374)
posted 2 minutes ago
It was a global crash and a different labour. I absolutely stand by what I said. Fact is you dont care about poor people suffering and kids living in poverty.
Which government will help ease that issue more? If you dont choose that then youre a bad person.
----------------------------------------------------------------------
Ahh fack off Robbing, you're a complete waste of time.
I think Labour will make things worse in the long run for the poor, not better. Hence I'd never vote for them because I think we'd all end up suffering.
posted on 6/12/19
Why do people act like it's a marriage? Its four years.
4m kids in poverty and people dying. That's it.
Im not even saying vote Labour really, just don't vote Tory because if you do you are supporting a country that is purposely harming it's own citizens in the pursuit of wealth. Maybe you want to be part of that but dont get upset that you get called out on it. I dont make you not care about people.
posted on 6/12/19
comment by Take Mahomes, Country Roads (U3979)
posted 11 minutes ago
Essentially, all Labour will do is make it worse in the long run. Happened in the 70s, happened in the 00s.
There is no evidence whatsoever in the last half century that their ideals are financially feasible.
So boom, we end up back in austerity yet again.
----------------------------------------------------------------------
Austerity was a choice remember
There’s no money, who shall pay for this?
“Well I’m damn sure not giving up my Foie Gras, Moët and cigars” sort it out David
posted on 6/12/19
comment by Robbing Hoody - tell me I can't and I... (U6374)
posted 3 minutes ago
Why do people act like it's a marriage? Its four years.
4m kids in poverty and people dying. That's it.
Im not even saying vote Labour really, just don't vote Tory because if you do you are supporting a country that is purposely harming it's own citizens in the pursuit of wealth. Maybe you want to be part of that but dont get upset that you get called out on it. I dont make you not care about people.
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I still haven't decided who I'm voting for, they are all facking dreadful but I cannot stand politicians who offer free this and free that knowing damn well that the following premiership will be picking up the bill.
posted on 6/12/19
Atos awarded new contract.
Beggars belief.
posted on 6/12/19
comment by Robbing Hoody - tell me I can't and I... (U6374)
posted 46 seconds ago
Atos awarded new contract.
Beggars belief.
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Atos are an IT provider right?
You really think that shouldn't be outsourced?!
posted on 6/12/19
Theyre the company that knowingly failed people on disability payments at the Governments behest so no I dont think that should be outsourced because it's morally bankrupt.
posted on 6/12/19
comment by Take Mahomes, Country Roads (U3979)
posted 22 minutes ago
Essentially, all Labour will do is make it worse in the long run. Happened in the 70s, happened in the 00s.
There is no evidence whatsoever in the last half century that their ideals are financially feasible.
So boom, we end up back in austerity yet again.
----------------------------------------------------------------------
163 UK economists have publically backed Labour's proposals which suggests they are in fact (in part) financially feasible.
https://www.ft.com/content/d29b4cbe-0fa4-11ea-a225-db2f231cfeae
I get they're not perfect but if you're not wealthy, voting for the conservatives is madness.
Labour also did not cause the 2008 global financial crisis.
posted on 6/12/19
comment by What would Stuart Pearce do? Better than Goze... (U3126)
posted 24 seconds ago
comment by Take Mahomes, Country Roads (U3979)
posted 22 minutes ago
Essentially, all Labour will do is make it worse in the long run. Happened in the 70s, happened in the 00s.
There is no evidence whatsoever in the last half century that their ideals are financially feasible.
So boom, we end up back in austerity yet again.
----------------------------------------------------------------------
163 UK economists have publically backed Labour's proposals which suggests they are in fact (in part) financially feasible.
https://www.ft.com/content/d29b4cbe-0fa4-11ea-a225-db2f231cfeae
I get they're not perfect but if you're not wealthy, voting for the conservatives is madness.
Labour also did not cause the 2008 global financial crisis.
----------------------------------------------------------------------
No of course they didn't but they managed it appallingly.
"There's no money left".
posted on 6/12/19
comment by Robbing Hoody - tell me I can't and I... (U6374)
posted 2 minutes ago
Theyre the company that knowingly failed people on disability payments at the Governments behest so no I dont think that should be outsourced because it's morally bankrupt.
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So you think the NHS should build and run their own IT infrastructure?
posted on 6/12/19
comment by Take Mahomes, Country Roads (U3979)
posted 1 minute ago
comment by Robbing Hoody - tell me I can't and I... (U6374)
posted 2 minutes ago
Theyre the company that knowingly failed people on disability payments at the Governments behest so no I dont think that should be outsourced because it's morally bankrupt.
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So you think the NHS should build and run their own IT infrastructure?
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No I think that a foriegn company that purpisely failed peoples health assessments in the pursuit of wealth should not be awarded further contracts.
posted on 6/12/19
comment by Robbing Hoody - tell me I can't and I... (U6374)
posted 53 seconds ago
comment by Take Mahomes, Country Roads (U3979)
posted 1 minute ago
comment by Robbing Hoody - tell me I can't and I... (U6374)
posted 2 minutes ago
Theyre the company that knowingly failed people on disability payments at the Governments behest so no I dont think that should be outsourced because it's morally bankrupt.
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So you think the NHS should build and run their own IT infrastructure?
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No I think that a foriegn company that purpisely failed peoples health assessments in the pursuit of wealth should not be awarded further contracts.
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Your alternative is?
posted on 6/12/19
Are you fvcking serious?
posted on 6/12/19
comment by Robbing Hoody - tell me I can't and I... (U6374)
posted 1 minute ago
Are you fvcking serious?
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So what do you think should be done instead of renewing the atos contract? Genuine question.
You clearly know more than I do about it so enlighten me.
What the fack is it with people like you that think insulting people will get them on your side?! I've had a good debate with WWSPD on this forum and it's genuinely made me think again about what I might do next week, and then you come along and call me a piece of shiiiiit for not falling for what I feel are an untrustworthy party in Labour?
Fack you robbing, you're exactly what's wrong with the electorate in this country. Should be facking ashamed.
posted on 6/12/19
comment by Take Mahomes, Country Roads (U3979)
posted 1 minute ago
comment by What would Stuart Pearce do? Better than Goze... (U3126)
posted 24 seconds ago
comment by Take Mahomes, Country Roads (U3979)
posted 22 minutes ago
Essentially, all Labour will do is make it worse in the long run. Happened in the 70s, happened in the 00s.
There is no evidence whatsoever in the last half century that their ideals are financially feasible.
So boom, we end up back in austerity yet again.
----------------------------------------------------------------------
163 UK economists have publically backed Labour's proposals which suggests they are in fact (in part) financially feasible.
https://www.ft.com/content/d29b4cbe-0fa4-11ea-a225-db2f231cfeae
I get they're not perfect but if you're not wealthy, voting for the conservatives is madness.
Labour also did not cause the 2008 global financial crisis.
----------------------------------------------------------------------
No of course they didn't but they managed it appallingly.
"There's no money left".
----------------------------------------------------------------------
And the Tories have been doing such a stellar job since....
If they weren't in the pockets of the likes of Amazon, they'd at least of made an effort to revise corporation tax laws and in particular corporation tax avoidance.
"The UK is by far the world’s biggest enabler of corporate tax dodging, helping funnel hundreds of billions of dollars away from state coffers, according to an international investigation."
..."the Tax Justice Network found that the UK has “single-handedly” done the most to break down the global corporate tax system which loses an estimated $500bn (£395bn) to avoidance."
"The amount dodged globally each year is more than three times the NHS budget or roughly equivalent to the entire Gross Domestic Product (GDP) of Belgium"
https://www.independent.co.uk/news/business/news/uk-corporate-tax-avoidance-havens-justice-network-dodging-a8933661.html
Instead they chose years of austerity and ruthlessly cut public spending across the board.
posted on 6/12/19
comment by What would Stuart Pearce do? Better than Goze... (U3126)
posted 1 minute ago
comment by Take Mahomes, Country Roads (U3979)
posted 1 minute ago
comment by What would Stuart Pearce do? Better than Goze... (U3126)
posted 24 seconds ago
comment by Take Mahomes, Country Roads (U3979)
posted 22 minutes ago
Essentially, all Labour will do is make it worse in the long run. Happened in the 70s, happened in the 00s.
There is no evidence whatsoever in the last half century that their ideals are financially feasible.
So boom, we end up back in austerity yet again.
----------------------------------------------------------------------
163 UK economists have publically backed Labour's proposals which suggests they are in fact (in part) financially feasible.
https://www.ft.com/content/d29b4cbe-0fa4-11ea-a225-db2f231cfeae
I get they're not perfect but if you're not wealthy, voting for the conservatives is madness.
Labour also did not cause the 2008 global financial crisis.
----------------------------------------------------------------------
No of course they didn't but they managed it appallingly.
"There's no money left".
----------------------------------------------------------------------
And the Tories have been doing such a stellar job since....
If they weren't in the pockets of the likes of Amazon, they'd at least of made an effort to revise corporation tax laws and in particular corporation tax avoidance.
"The UK is by far the world’s biggest enabler of corporate tax dodging, helping funnel hundreds of billions of dollars away from state coffers, according to an international investigation."
..."the Tax Justice Network found that the UK has “single-handedly” done the most to break down the global corporate tax system which loses an estimated $500bn (£395bn) to avoidance."
"The amount dodged globally each year is more than three times the NHS budget or roughly equivalent to the entire Gross Domestic Product (GDP) of Belgium"
https://www.independent.co.uk/news/business/news/uk-corporate-tax-avoidance-havens-justice-network-dodging-a8933661.html
Instead they chose years of austerity and ruthlessly cut public spending across the board.
----------------------------------------------------------------------
I actually agree with you here. I think the way we've allowed company's to avoid tax is shameful and is something we should sort out. I think 26% corporation tax is too high, and less than 20% is a fitting amount and that would work if everybody paid it. The problem is that they don't.
Again, I don't believe Labour are the answer and I fundamentally disagree with a party offering free broadband, free tuition fees and free everything else. People have no sense of value when everything is spoonfed to them by the government.
posted on 6/12/19
comment by Take Mahomes, Country Roads (U3979)
posted 42 seconds ago
comment by What would Stuart Pearce do? Better than Goze... (U3126)
posted 1 minute ago
comment by Take Mahomes, Country Roads (U3979)
posted 1 minute ago
comment by What would Stuart Pearce do? Better than Goze... (U3126)
posted 24 seconds ago
comment by Take Mahomes, Country Roads (U3979)
posted 22 minutes ago
Essentially, all Labour will do is make it worse in the long run. Happened in the 70s, happened in the 00s.
There is no evidence whatsoever in the last half century that their ideals are financially feasible.
So boom, we end up back in austerity yet again.
----------------------------------------------------------------------
163 UK economists have publically backed Labour's proposals which suggests they are in fact (in part) financially feasible.
https://www.ft.com/content/d29b4cbe-0fa4-11ea-a225-db2f231cfeae
I get they're not perfect but if you're not wealthy, voting for the conservatives is madness.
Labour also did not cause the 2008 global financial crisis.
----------------------------------------------------------------------
No of course they didn't but they managed it appallingly.
"There's no money left".
----------------------------------------------------------------------
And the Tories have been doing such a stellar job since....
If they weren't in the pockets of the likes of Amazon, they'd at least of made an effort to revise corporation tax laws and in particular corporation tax avoidance.
"The UK is by far the world’s biggest enabler of corporate tax dodging, helping funnel hundreds of billions of dollars away from state coffers, according to an international investigation."
..."the Tax Justice Network found that the UK has “single-handedly” done the most to break down the global corporate tax system which loses an estimated $500bn (£395bn) to avoidance."
"The amount dodged globally each year is more than three times the NHS budget or roughly equivalent to the entire Gross Domestic Product (GDP) of Belgium"
https://www.independent.co.uk/news/business/news/uk-corporate-tax-avoidance-havens-justice-network-dodging-a8933661.html
Instead they chose years of austerity and ruthlessly cut public spending across the board.
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I actually agree with you here. I think the way we've allowed company's to avoid tax is shameful and is something we should sort out. I think 26% corporation tax is too high, and less than 20% is a fitting amount and that would work if everybody paid it. The problem is that they don't.
Again, I don't believe Labour are the answer and I fundamentally disagree with a party offering free broadband, free tuition fees and free everything else. People have no sense of value when everything is spoonfed to them by the government.
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I actually agree with you too on Labour but compared to the Tories I'd even have Lord Buckethead
posted on 6/12/19
comment by Robbing Hoody - tell me I can't and I'll show you I can (U6374)
posted 47 minutes ago
It was a global crash and a different labour. I absolutely stand by what I said. Fact is you dont care about poor people suffering and kids living in poverty.
Which government will help ease that issue more? If you dont choose that then youre a bad person.
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I’m voting for hoody a true warrior for social justice
I also want a handy cabinet position when you get in
Say minister for women’s scanties or something
posted on 6/12/19
I actually agree with you too on Labour but compared to the Tories I'd even have Lord Buckethead
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Here's my dilemma then as an undecided.
Tory party: Aside of everything else I despise Brexit, as somebody who took time to learn European languages and loves European culture and had the opportunity to live in France visa free, I want everybody to have that opportunity and I hate the way it's being taken away in this ridiculous vanity project.
Labour: I fundamentally disagree with free tuition frees, free broadband etc etc. As I mentioned why the hell should my taxes be increased (and they will) so I can buy for billionnaires to have free broadband and tuition fees? I hate a party that feels they can spend money better than I can and as somebody who uses the rail networks daily KEEP IT WELL AWAY FROM PUBLIC OWNERSHIP.
Lib Dem: I hate Brexit but the vote happened. You can't just revoke Article 50 and the bigoted attitude of the party towards leave voters (many of whom had valid reasons for voting the way they do) is disgraceful. I also don't see the realism in things like banning combustion engine cars. This will hit the poor harder than anybody else and that's ridiculous when there are so many bigger environmental problems worldwide that need to be fixed first.
The others are pointless frankly.
This, and the fact that me daring to question the Labour party leading to me being called skuuumm or a piece of shiiiiit as evidenced by Robbing just this afternoon is why I despise everything about politics in this country.
It's an utter facking mess.
Rant over.
posted on 6/12/19
comment by Take Mahomes, Country Roads (U3979)
posted 9 minutes ago
comment by Robbing Hoody - tell me I can't and I... (U6374)
posted 1 minute ago
Are you fvcking serious?
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So what do you think should be done instead of renewing the atos contract? Genuine question.
You clearly know more than I do about it so enlighten me.
What the fack is it with people like you that think insulting people will get them on your side?! I've had a good debate with WWSPD on this forum and it's genuinely made me think again about what I might do next week, and then you come along and call me a piece of shiiiiit for not falling for what I feel are an untrustworthy party in Labour?
Fack you robbing, you're exactly what's wrong with the electorate in this country. Should be facking ashamed.
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It's not my job to educate you or to try and impart the very basic cognitive ability it takes to deduce you award the contract to a different tender.
posted on 6/12/19
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posted on 6/12/19
comment by Mason The King Greenwood (U10026)
posted 2 minutes ago
Robbing’s called you skum because you’ve enabled, and defended, the social cleansing of the poorest and most vulnerable in society.
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Bit like Cromwell tried here
Cant wanted us all living in Connacht
posted on 6/12/19
mason
That's a disgraceful and insulting comment.
posted on 6/12/19
It’s the reality of the situation.
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